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Minutes 06/26/1991 R Parks & Recreation Advisory Board ( PARAR ) Minutes June 26 , 1991 r MINUTES ILPARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD Golden Gate Community Park, Administrative Office Naples, FLORIDA Wednesday, June 26, 1990 PRESENT: Mr. Kim Kobza, Chairman ABSENT: Mr. Gill Mueller, Vise Chairman Ms. Geneva Till (approved leave) Ms. Cherryle Thomas I. CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 1:40 p.m. 4' II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG: III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Approval of the May 22, 1991 Minutes and the Workshop Minutes of March 14, 1991. Motioned by Ms. Geneva Till, seconded by Ms. Cherryle Thomas, no discussion, and the motion passed with a 3-0 vote. IV. REQUESTS FOR DISCUSSION - SPECIFIC UPDATE ITEMS: A. Vanderbilt Beach Property: This property is on Vanderbilt Beach Drive across the street from our parking lot. Use of this property for beach parking would compare favorably with Bluebill. It was agreed that the Barron Collier Site would be a good area to look at, if for no other reason than it is a closer walking distance to the beach, and the County should pursue it. Chairman Kobza asked staff to ask the County Manager's office whether it would be feasible to utilize Tourist Tax Moneys for acquisition of Beach Parking facilities. Is there any legal reason that we can' t do that? The Barron Collier property is about the only land left in that area for beach parking. The Bluebill property is too far north, more people would go to the State park than our beach at Vanderbilt. Chairman Kobza commented, "Anything we can do to provide beach access, an additional 100 to 125 spots, would be good. " The Barron Collier property is nicely located because it is all commercial property around there, whereas the Bluebill is residential. Ms. Geneva Till motioned to request that the County Manager examine the feasibility of acquisition of the Vanderbilt Beach Road Barron Collier Property, and also possible alternative funding sources, and advise us. Ms. Cherryle Thomas seconded, and the motion passed with a 3-0 vote. V. NEW BUSINESS/PRESENTATIONS: A. YMCA Contract: Staff has been working on a joint use of facilities agreement with the YMCA of Collier County. Basically what it does is give the YMCA the opportunity to run programming at our Veterans Park facility. This agreement would be for a one year trial basis. It would begin this September. It would only be at OVeterans Park and they would only run non-competing programs. In the agreement it also gives us the reciprocal to use any of their facilities as well. Not 1 necessarily to run programs but possibly to compliment some or our programs like summer camp, swimming, etc. The only cost that would be incurred, would be the YMCA, if the County itself incurred unusual costs, then they would reimburse the county. They would receive all the fees for their programming, we would not receive any. This agreement does extend to the use of the Community Center at Veterans Park, although the County would have first preference. When we have an agreement with the Collier County School Board, they would get second preference, and the YMCA would get third preference in use of our facilities. The same goes for our use of the YMCA facilities, we are third on their list of preference. So we will not have access to their facilities until September 1, 1991, and only if they are available at the time that we want to use them. Ms. Geneva Till moved that we enter into this YMCA contract of utilization of our properties with the YMCA Ms. Cherryle Thomas seconded. The motion passed with a 3-0 vote. B. Beach Ordinances: A few weeks ago, it was brought to the County Manager's attention, that there are inconsistencies within the Ordinances that regulate activities on the Collier County beaches (i.e. The Vendor on the beach, The Vehicle on the beach, and the State Ordinance that requires permits for these.) This item was taken to the BCC before they went on vacation. The recommendation of the BCC was to direct staff to look at the ordinances and amend the ordinances in order to resolve some of the problems that we are having with the vendors and the sales on the beach. What the Board directed staff to do was to come back to them within a three month time with the amendments. C. Vending Machine Bids: These are sealed bids for Vending Machines, which were opened on may 29, 1991. The posting date, was May 9, 1991 . Invitations to bid were submitted to seven Vendors. Two bids were received, and each PARAB Member received a bid tabulation in their packet for review. Of the two bids submitted, one was for vending machines (i.e. Coca Cola and Snack Machines) and the other one was for Video Machines. These are being located at the Community Centers. The recommendation for Vending Machines was Naples Vending, who has our bid for about the last three years. Their bid for Vending Machines was 25%. Faramo Amusement was recommended for Video Machines and the percentage was 50% of their profits. We put Video Machines in a specific Game room at the Community Centers that has Pool Table, Ping Pong Table, Video Games, etc. Normally there is about 2-3 per center. Ms. Cherryle Thomas motioned to recommend to the Board of Collier County Commissioners that we accept the bids as submitted for the Vending Machines. Ms. Geneva Till seconded, and the motion passed with a 3-0 vote. D. Conklin Point Engineering Contract: The Board of County Commissioners have previously approved a short list of Engineering firms to do detailed design of Conklin Point Boat Launch Facility. This item was brought before PARAB by staff back in May or April, and at that point in time the decision was made that once the contract is put together that PARAB wanted to review the dollar amounts and so forth of the contract. We've negotiated with Gee & Jensen who was the top candidate for the contract. Their basic contract will be approximately $82,000 for the project. Ms. Geneva Till motioned to recommend to the Board of County Commissioners that the Conklin Point Engineering Contract with Gee & Jensen be approved. Ms. Cherryle Thomas seconded, and the motion passed with a 3-0 vote. El. Budget Update: Results of last budget hearing regarding Expanded Services. Reduce operating of three (3) New Community Centers (East Naples, North Naples, and Immokalee) to six (6) months. Request of two additional Summer contracted people at ‘111 each location eliminated. Construction of centers to be completed October 1991 . 2 Ms. Geneva Till motioned that when the buildings are completed, as planned, that they be in operation immediately. Ms. Cherryle Thomas seconded. Chairman Kobza, "We have a motion and a second that the County Board restore funding for the budget to allow for the immediate opening for the 3 Community Centers upon completion The motion passed with a 3-0 vote. Immokalee Middle School - Revised six month budget. Not sure when new school will be ready and facility will be vacated by School Board. Ms. Cherryle Thomas motioned to include Immokalee with the MSTD to be included for approval when the building is completed, let's open it. Chairman Kobza rephrased the motion to read, " . . . that there not be a phase in schedule, and that there be sufficient budgetary moneys available or sufficient operational moneys available in the budget for operating the Immokalee Middle School site when it's available. " The motion was seconded by Ms. Geneva Till , and the motion passed with a 3-0 vote. Park Ranger - Additional full time Ranger denied. Ms. Geneva Till made a motion to recommend to the County Board to add the additional Park Ranger in the budget to allow districting of the Park Ranger Program and whatever funding is necessary to get that accomplished. Ms. Cherryle Thomas seconded the motion. the motion passed with a 3-0 vote. OPERATIONAL ELEMENTS: IN - Athletic Programs MSTD Fund 111 - Agriculture Grounds Maintenance (Fairgrounds) OUT - EMS Building Grounds Maintenance CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND 703: PHASE II - COMMUNITY PARKS: IN - Football Soccer field at Golden Gate, North Naples, and Immokalee Fitness trail at East Naples Community Park Baseball Fields at Golden Gate and North Naples OUT - Community Center at The Golden Gate Community Park Racquetball Courts at North Naples, Golden Gate, and East Naples Shuffleboard Courts BOAT RAMPS - Reduced from six to four at Conklin Point FRANK E. MACKLE JR. COMMUNITY PARK - dividing wall is out COMMUNITY POOL - In, but additional Engineering Fees are out. CLAM PASS UTILITIES - are in GOLDEN GATE COMMUNITY PARK OLYMPIC POOL - BCC to decide on a 25 or 50 meter pool. BAREFOOT PARK - Parking Lot & trail are in MULTIPURPOSE BUILDING - at East Naples Community Park, In REGIONAL PARK LAND - In E2. Additional Horses: The County has received two additional Park Ranger Horses. Their names are Jazn (Buddy) , and Collier Aladdin (Junior) . Buddy is ready to start patrol. In fact he will be in Immokalee sometime before Friday. Aladdin is a beautiful horse, but it's too young yet, it's a wild stallion, and will be very difficult to train. I'm sure Nan will do her best. E3. Appointment of MR. Rodney E. Thralls: Ms. A. Carol Pahl, who was previously recommended, lives outside District 4. Ms. Geneva Till recommended that Mr. Rodney E. Thralls be a part of the Collier County Parks & Recreation Advisory Board. Ms. Cherryle Thomas seconded, and the motion passed with a 3-0 Vote I 41I' 3 F. COOL Concession, Inc. : COOL Concession, Inc. asked the County if they could be our agent in applying for a permit from the State to do some improvements to the Concession on Tigertail. What they're trying to do, is put a decking and an enclosure around the concession at Tigertail. We gave them permission to go to the State and to the County acting as an agent of us to apply for those permits. I talked to Mr. Mueller at the time, and he had no problem with it. Staff was unable to contact Chairman Kobza. G. CSOA Contract: This is the contract for officials for all our athletic purposes (i.e. Softball, Basketball, Football, etc.) . What that means as far as dollar amounts, $45,000.00 for the next year is already budgeted in that specific line item. This is the only organization that exists with sufficient number officials to officiate at all our Athletic games. All the fees now are paid through sponsor fees. Everything is included in the sponsor fees (i.e. lights, balls, trophies) , and that's for your Scorekeeper, Umpires, etc. So if a Softball team pays $500.00 for a sponsor fee, then that's included. But, it's money the County has to receive, and then put out. Ms. Geneva Till motioned that we continue this CSOA Contract. Ms. Cherryle Thomas seconded, and the motion passed with a 3-0 vote. VI. Reports/Updates: It was decided to skip everything on the Reports/Updates List except for items specifically requested for discussion by either the PARAB Members or Staff. C. Tigertail Vegetation: In response to the Army Corps of Engineers' public notice, a group or a department, is suggesting that we do not clear the beach at Tigertail because it is going to destroy the fishing industry out there. So, staff does not know what is going to happen, and it does not appear to be a positive response. The closing date was the 25th. for the public notice, so we should be getting a response back from the Army Corps of Engineers shortly. They have the final word as to whether they are going to issue the permit or not. Dl. Immokalee Airport Park Bathrooms: Ms. Cherryle Thomas noted, they're going good. She has been checking with them once a week. The roofs are one. The fixtures are not in yet. However, the cement and pipe are in. It is progressing on schedule. G. Vanderbilt Beach Accesses and Parking: Chairman Kobza asked about the possibility of using Impact Fee moneys to fund the turn-around, and also for potential restroom facilities. Staff doesn' t think the restroom facilities can be permitted. We had at one point $70,000 for bathrooms, and we could not get permitted for it from the State. The money was not spent in a couple of years because of permitting, so we lost it. Then it was just put back into the General Fund. D2. Immokalee Airport Park: Ms. Cherryle Thomas asked about the Picnic tables at Airport Park. We are going to destroy the concrete ones and purchase some better type of picnic equipment. The tables are about $300 a piece. We have $13,000 allocated for it. Ms. Cherryle Thomas commented that she has received three letters about the hose bib fountain outside the Men's room at the Airport Park Bathrooms, and asked if staff was planning on making a water fountain out of that? Staff has had no previous plans for that fountain, however, a water fountain would be put in there. 4 H. Community Centers: Everything has been going very well, no problems. As a matter of fact, at North Naples they are going to start putting their trusses up this week. So it's moving pretty well. The other ones are not behind schedule, but they are not as far along as North Naples is. North Naples - Chairman Kobza asked about about the access back and forth from the Fields to the Community Center. Mr. Murdo Smith commented that we're probably going to wind up clearing a path. It was suggested that staff look into the possibility of putting in a walkway between the softball field and the Field Control Facility. I. Football/Soccer Field Immokalee: The substantial completion has already occurred. Within 30 days of last Thursday, it will be turned over to the Parks & Recreation Department. There are about 50 parking spaces there, the football/soccer field, a little landscaping, and a sprinkler system. J. Frank E. Mackle Jr. Building Expansion: Unfortunately the project has been delayed. A 16 day extension was granted. That was due to some shop drawings, technical in nature, between the Architect and the Engineering firm, that has since been rectified. Hopefully that will be open in mid July. Hopefully! Note: Chairman Kobza commented that Mr. Gil Mueller requested a special meeting the second week in July. It will be very brief. The Productivity Committee issued a report, and a draft copy has been sent to each PARAB member. So far, neither staff or the PARAB members have gotten a final draft. It was agreed to hold a Special meeting on July 10, at 1:30 p.m. , at the Golden Gate Community Park, Administrative Office, to discuss this subject. tvute: Ms. Cherryle Thomas asked about a vacation month for the PARAB members. It was suggested if a month were to be taken, it should be August, and that this would be discussed at the Regular Meeting in July. Note: Ms. Geneva Till commented that she was very pleased with the re-paving of the parking lot at the Aaron Lutz Park. Mr. Murdo Smith commented that it was just striped last week. VI. Adjournment: Ms. Geneva Till motioned to adjourn the meeting. Ms. Cherryle Thomas seconded, and the motion passed with a 3-0 vote. The meeting was adjourned at 4:20 p.m. rtd:003593 er 5 MINUTES (long version) PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD Golden Gate Community Park, Administrative Office Naples, FLORIDA Wednesday, June 26, 1991 PRESENT: Mr. Kim Kobza, Chairman Ms. Geneva Till Ms. Cherryle Thomas ABSENT: Mr. Gill Mueller, Vise Chairman I. CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 1:40 p.m. II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG: III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Approval of the May 22, 1991 Minutes and the Workshop Minutes of March 14, 1991. Motioned by Ms. Geneva Till, seconded by Ms. Cherryle Thomas, no discussion, and the motion passed with a 3-0 vote. IV. REQUESTS FOR DISCUSSION - SPECIFIC UPDATE ITEMS: A. Vanderbilt Beach Property: At Vanderbilt Beach, this is on Vanderbilt Beach Drive basically across the street from our parking lot are some vacant lots totaling about 1-1/2 acres. Chairman Kobza has requested that staff look into the cost and parking for beach access. Right now we have 125 parking spaces in our existing lot there. There is also 21 metered parking spaces along there, and there are six handicap parking spaces at the turn around. If you take out about 25% for water retention, buffering, etc. that leaves you with about 3/4 of the property usable. Then divide that by about 400 feet per spot, a 10 by 20 spot is 200 plus you have to have the area when you back in. So, if you divide that out, basically that's about 80 to 90 spots. The problem is that at $1,500,000.00 that is about 15 to 16 thousand dollars per spot. On the other hand, that would compare favorably with Bluebill for instance. It would probably not be as favorable as buying raw acreage to the North of Bluebill, which is about $30,000.00 per acre. That would involve taking people down to Wiggins Pass State Park, Pedestrian overpasses, and you don' t have control over the polices at the park and everything else. Going through the minutes of the workshop meeting, Chairman Kobza, doesn' t even think that it's realistic that we can do it. It was agreed that the Barron Collier Site would be a good area to look at, if for no other reason than it is a closer walking distance to the beach. This isn' t a current budget item, but addressing the beach access issue what properties are potentially available to do that with. Up in that area, this is one of the few properties that we could work with at all. It is owned by Barron Collier. It was suggested that they have large enough land holdings where we may be able to do a land trade, or maybe we could use the Tourist Tax. Staff submitted a request last week, for Tourist Tax Development Money to the County Manager's office, and it was relative just for Maintenance of Beach facilities. Staff was told that they could not use it for any Capital Items, or Capital 1 Improvements, just for maintenance items. Chairman Kobza asked staff to ask the County Manager's office whether it would be feasible to utilize Tourist Tax Moneys for acquisition of Beach Parking facilities. Is there any legal reason that we can' t do that? Staff commented that they think it is a piece of property that we should pursue. Maybe is it a little bit expensive for the parking spaces, but it is about the only property in that area for beach parking. Chairman Kobza commented that if we are going to do it anywhere in that corridor, that is probably the one best location remaining. Mr. Murdo Smith commented, "Bluebill is too far up, people would go to the state park benefiting the state park more than our beach at Vanderbilt. You never know, the bids are out for the sale of Bluebill, that they may have enough money to purchase that also. We should look at some innovative ways to fund it. " Chairman Kobza commented, "Anything we can do to provide beach access, an additional 100 to 125 spots, would be good. " Mr. Murdo Smith commented that the Barron Collier property is nicely located because it is all commercial property around there, whereas the Bluebill is residential. Ms. Geneva Till motioned to request that the County Manager examine the feasibility of acquisition of the Vanderbilt Beach Road Barron Collier Property, and also possible alternative funding sources, and advise us. Ms. Cherryle Thomas seconded, and the motion passed with a 3-0 vote. V. NEW BUSINESS/PRESENTATIONS: A. YMCA Contract: Staff has been working on a joint use of facilities agreement with the YMCA of Collier County. We have got a basically of a rough draft of an agreement that we have basically discussed with the YMCA Basically what is does is give the YMCA the opportunity to run programming at our Veterans Park facility. This agreement would be for a one year trial basis. It would begin this September. It would only be at Veterans Park and they would only run noncompeting programs. In that agreement it also gives us the reciprocal of attempting to use any of their facilities as well. Not necessarily to run programs but possibly to compliment some or our programs like summer camp, swimming, etc. The only cost that would be incurred, would be the YMCA, if the County itself incurred unusual costs, then they would reimburse the county. That would be costs that would normally not be incurred by us in general use of the park (i.e. if they ran a league that would require additional maintenance and such, then they would have to pay us for the additional maintenance) . They would receive all the fees for their programming, we would not receive any. A year from now, if this has worked well, and we want to expand, that would be up for negotiation. In the agreement it provides that there is a 60 day lead time which provides for an advanced scheduling period and also time to get each others brochures out. We are specifically talking about organized programs, so anything that they would want to offer would have to be scheduled in advance. This agreement does extend to the use of the Community Center at Veterans Park. The County would have first preference. When we have an agreement with the Collier County School Board, they would get second preference, and the YMCA would get third preference in use of our facilities. The same goes for our use of the YMCA facilities, we are third on their list of preference. So we will not have access to their facilities until September 1, 1991, and only if they are available at the time that we want to use them. The YMCA runs almost 100% utilization almost, so the real feasibility of us having access of their facilities are limited. Ms. Geneva Till commented, "That doesn' t really bother me though. They are Collier 4110- County kids, so whether they are with us or the YMCA, that's fine. " This will 2 have to go before the BCC for final approval. Chairman Kobza commented, "It's good to have a trial period, and see if there are any issues that come up. " Mr. Murdo Smith commented, "The agreement is now in the County Attorney's office for review. This may not be the final draft. " Ms. Geneva Till moved that we enter into this YMCA contract of utilization of our properties with the YMCA Ms. Cherryle Thomas seconded. Obvious, if the YMCA is going to use some of our facilities, we will possibly use some revenue generation if we can not use that facility while they are there. For example if we have an opening in the Community Center building, and the YMCA wants to run a program there, they'll be scheduled for that program, and we wouldn' t be able to rent that facility out to anyone else other than the YMCA Also, the Productivity Committee expressed that in their report. Chairman Kobza commented, "The Efficiency Committee is addressing a lot of these issues in their report. Basically, if I could sum up their philosophy, what it would be is that all of the Capital Facilities that operate in Parks and Recreation should be revenue producing. Whether it would be the beaches, or the parks, or whatever it is, where there is a specific use then they think their ought to be a fee and a revenue generation, because they're looking at all of our facilities as operating at a loss in their eyes as apposed to the philosophy that these are all public facilities and should be open to the public for use, and funded out of ad velorum tax as operating expenses in a function of government. So, their two competing philosophies going on, and the one thing we have to be a little careful of is that we are decreasing the revenue generation ability of the facility. " Ms. Cherryle Thomas commented that it would be positive publicity to do togetherness maybe, for the community, whether we make money on it or not, the first year. It may be a good sign. Ms. Geneva Till commented that if we drastically lose money on it, then maybe we'd have to look at it again, but unless it was that, I would say the more we cooperated the better. Mr. Murdo Smith commented, "Kim was right, that the philosophy of the Productivity Committee was that anytime you have a specific user using any facility you should charge. Sometimes they wanted us to double the charges in some areas, and charge things that we weren' t charging before, just so we can show more revenue coming in, so that the General Taxpayer of the County was not charged for Recreational Facilities. " Chairman Kobza commented "So it is a question of how the costs are funded, whether it is ad velorum taxation, or whether it is a User Fee or some combination. There always is going to be some combination, and then it's a balancing of where does it come from, what's the percentages. So we have theoretically, less ability to respond to the revenue producing recommendations in the report. " The motion passed with a 3-0 vote. B. Beach Ordinances: A few weeks ago, it was brought to the County Manager's attention, that there was some inconsistencies within the Ordinances that regulate activities on the Collier County beaches (i.e. The Vendor on the beach, The Vehicle on the beach, and the State Ordinance that requires permits for these.) This item was taken to the BCC yesterday before they went on vacation so that it would not sit for a month, because that they felt that it was of a priority and needed to get some attention. The recommendation of the BCC was to direct staff to look at the ordinances and amend the ordinances in order to resolve some of the problems that we are having with the vendors and the sales of the beach. What the Board directed staff to do was to come back to them within a three month time with the amendments. So that will come back before PARAB before it goes back before the BCC. The basic problem was that some of the Vendors down there were putting structures beyond the Mean High Water Line, and also using of carts on the 3 beach. The carts did not have permits thru vehicle on the beach, because the Vehicle On The Beach Permitting did not address a golf cart per say for selling items (i.e. food, drinks, etc.) . That must be addressed in the Ordinance. One of the things that brought this about, was our concessionaire on Tigertail. He had purchased a golf cart, and he was driving it on the beach. He was sited by the Compliance Services Department for not having a permit. The Vendor brought that to the BCC's attention, and this is one of the reasons we are looking at this ordinance. There were three or four applications at that time, and there was nothing in the Vehicle On The Beach Permitting that actually addressed those types of vehicles. Today staff was directed, by the BCC, to go back and look at the Ordinance. However, they did say that they wanted the carts restricted to only certain areas, and they want that worked out in the ordinance for basically the County Beaches, and possibly, Hotels and so forth. Staff was also directed by Chairman Kobza to go before the BCC since the BCC would be on Vacation for a month. The ordinances will be coming back to PARAB , so they will get to see any proposed changes. PARAB was not really in a position to discuss this issue, until they're in a position to see the proposed changes. Mr. Murdo Smith commented that there is structures on the beach that have to be addressed, carts to use for selling items on the beach, and the State regulation as far as the coastal control line. There are some discrepancies within the three. Also, the Tigertail Beach Concessionaires were given approval to run their cart for three months, while we are working out this ordinance. They were also given very strict orders not to go off our property by Commissioner Shanahan. He said that they wanted it confined to our public beach. No action was required of PARAB at this point. C. Vending Machine Bids: These are sealed bids for Vending Machines, which were opened on may 29, 1991 . The posting date, was May 9, 1991 . Invitations to bid were submitted to seven Vendors. Two bids were received, and each PARAB Member received a bid tabulation in their packet for review. Of the two bids submitted, one was for vending machines (i.e. Coca Cola and Snack Machines) and the other one was for Video Machines. The Video Machines was for Faramo Amusements, Inc. for the Video Games. These are being located at the Community Centers. The Vending Machines was to Naples Vending, who has our bid for about the last three years. Their bid for Vending Machines was 25%, their Video Machines was 50% of their profits. We put Video Machines in a specific Game room at the Community Centers that has Pool Table, ping pong table, Video Games, etc. At Frank E. Mackle Community Park we usually have two Video games. Normally there is about 2-3 per center. Ms. Cherryle Thomas commented, "Do you realize that the kids in Immokalee don' t have a video game? So, if you had them in the Community Center, that would be a biggie!" Plus, it is revenue producing. Video machines promote socialization, it keeps them occupied, it keeps them off the streets, it keeps them in the facility, and also promotes communication between the age levels. There is supervision at the facility. A lot of children of children may not be able, or want to participate in an organized program. This will give them some sort of interaction, and for what it is, it is a Community Center, and if you have that type of Game Room there, you do keep them off the street, and you do keep them out of trouble. It doesn' t necessarily have to be Video Games either, it can be Foosball, Air hockey, etc. It's all labeled as Video Games. The entrance to the Game room is at no charge, the only thing that's charged is that Video Game if they choose to want to play that. The game rooms are no big Lenough to put in a lot of these machines. The Games Rooms will have maybe two pool tables in there, you will have a ping pong table, and probably at the most 4 two or three video games and that will be it. When you say, you don' t know what they get out of that, it's the excitement of trying to beat the game, it is a challenge, it is time consuming. Naples Vending will not bid on Videos, they will only bid on the Vending Machines and the Coke Machines. Faramo did not bid on the Coke Machines. These•are two different bids. For each, we only have one bidder for over the seven different inquiries that were sent out. In the last couple of years, the bid for Vending Machines from Naples Vending is 15%. They will increase their percentage by 10%. That may be because of the possibility of the new buildings coming on line. The volume increased. That amounts to approximately $1500 a year, at the current time, just for the Vending Machines. This income will go back into the General Fund. So adding three buildings to that, theoretically it will be $6000. It is a three year contract for both. This has not gone before the BCC. Ms. Cherryle Thomas motioned to recommend to the Board of Collier County Commissioners that we accept the bids as submitted for the Vending Machines. Ms. Geneva Till seconded, and the motion passed with a 3-0 vote. D. Conklin Point Engineering Contract: The Board of County Commissioners have previously approved a short list of Engineering firms to do detailed design of Conklin Point Boat Launch Facility. This item was brought before PARAB by staff back in May or April, and at that point in time the decision was made that once the contract is put together that PARAB wanted to review the dollar amounts and so forth of the contract. We've negotiated with Gee & Jensen who was the top candidate for the contract. Their basic contract will be approximately $82,000 for the project. What they would be doing in their design would be designing the project. Basic services would be for water management, asphalt, building, etc. , all those functions that associate with the construction of the park. They would also have services during construction, which would be construction management and so forth. The basic design service is $66,600 and the other services (i.e. construction management) will be $15,000. That total is $81,980. Mr. Murdo Smith passed a breakdown out to the PARAB members. We have a contract that the BCC has not approved yet. We had two or three meetings with them. We broke it down into what type of services they were going to give us based with their hours. What type of services they're going to have, construction dollars, etc. The Design Review Team estimated going into the project, that it would cost anywhere between $80,000 and $100,000 for their services. The proposal is based on Architectural Engineering Fees for the building, his hours, how many hours he's going to spend, percentage for asphaltic pavement, drainage, etc. , it's all based on hours etc. that they would have to spend. The services during construction, is like one person, one time a week at the site reviewing what's going on. We also have to have the drawings and so forth, go back through them, for their review prior to approval. There was two separate buildings that they'd have to build, the architectural fees at the building, were astronomical. We got that cut down to basically one building that they would have to do the designing on. We did some modifications of the bathroom facility. We can use the same types of facility that we have at our parks, they don' t have to redesign the whole project. We're using the same basic design, just some improvements on the inside of this building. We're using the same basic design on our shelters that we have, and that cut the architectural costs way down, because he did not have to design each building. On the $60,000 probably a third of that is for architectural. So $40,000 is planning, permitting, design work, landscaping, etc. Basic service is the boat ramps, buildings, children's play area, landscaping, sprinkler system, paving, demolition of the one guard 5 house, etc. The only thing that they're not going to do, is rezone the property. We're going to do that ourself. What the County tries to do when they go into a building project is to try to have some funds available in case there's some things that need to be addressed in the field. That's what the 5% contingency is. The basic service is a little less than 10%, because the construction management is a separate issue, because the designs usually run us between 5-10%, that's within that ball game. We have three Engineers on the Design Review Team Committee and they were pleased with what they got. They are Mr. Tom Donnegan (Project Manager) , Heyward Boyce, and Harry Huber. The other members of the Committee were Jeff Walker of Risk Management, John McDermot, from Purchasing, Gary Franco, and Murdo Smith. The contract has a fee schedule. This firm wants to review some ideas that they have as far as different ways to approach the traffic pattern. They've already looked at different Architects to do the designs. They seem very eager and energetic to do us one heck of a job on this property, and have done some very good work. They were going to do everything in house, and they can do the landscaping also in house. However at our last meeting, they had asked us if we had any preference on a Landscape Architect that we would like to see. We said no, but they said they had worked with a couple of people down in Collier and were wondering if we were interested in using them, or in house. We said that it didn' t matter to us. Gee & Jensen does a lot of work in Lee County. The reason why it went out for bid or RFP (Request For Proposal) , was because it was a different project than building Community Parks. They had a very good presentation down, their past experience. It was a very difficult decision to make for the design team. Everybody was ranked from a one to five. Some of the questions, and some of the innovative ways that Gee & Jensen came up to solve, some of the solutions that these Engineers asked them, they liked (i.e. How do you get around the flood elevation standpoint? What degree is the boat launch facility, the ramps - How do you get them from being non-slippery, traffic flow patterns) . Their answers that they came up with on those things were the basic reasons why they were chosen. They gave a very enthusiastic presentation, they seemed to have a lot of experience, they had done a lot of work at the site. There were for top firms there. Ms. Geneva Till commented that she hopes that those ramps will not be as steep as Naples. Mr. Murdo Smith commented, that the ramps will not be as steep as Naples. That was one of the questions that was asked by one of the Engineers (i.e. Specifically what's the angle or the slope of the boat launch?) . I guess the slope was supposed to be a .11 or .12. Gee & Jensen just didn' t say that it was going to be 1. , they came out and showed you the angle with their material. This does include the Auxiliary Boat Lanes. There's some talk with Westinghouse right now about the entrance to the facility. Westinghouse has purchased the land behind ours, and will have on nice facility there. Westinghouse asked us about the possibility of moving our entrance a little, so that's under consideration. Westinghouse is supposed to come back with some type of proposal to us. Chairman Kobza commented that we might be able to ask them for a contribution of some kind, to this project. Because it certainly is in everybody's best interest to make it come out the way it should, and I think they'll be willing to help. Mr. Murdo Smith had a meeting with a couple, they came in and asked him about the property. They wanted to make sure that we were going to have a nice entrance, nice landscaping, and they said that they will be interested in probably doing some type of assistance in the landscaping if it remains in the same spot. We may be able to get a donation from them because it will be in everybody's best interest. Ms. Geneva Till motioned to recommend to the Board of County Commissioners that the Conklin Point Engineering Contract with Gee & Jensen be approved. Ms. Cherryle Thomas 6 i I seconded, and the motion passed with a 3-0 vote. CE. Budget Update: We've had a meeting with the County Manager and several discussions with budget. Staff passed out copies of the workup to PARAB. This is operational, it's not capital. The budget sheet that PARAB was given at the last meeting showed basically what we had in the expanded request. The new sheet they were given will break out the expanded requests remaining in the budget. We are going to look at the Operational for Expanded Services. This is what's going to be budgeted for next year. The first item that we have is the East Naples Community Center. That was put back to a six month funding phase, and right now the allocated money is 17.8 and that is just for operating (i.e. Electrical, Water, Sewer) . There was an additional two summer recreational contracted people that were not approved, and basically half of the operations. Basically what the County Manager said is to use what you have existing. Mr. Murdo Smith commented that the Productivity made the comment that the Recreation Supervisor's position and the Assistant Recreation Supervisor. Those were not the people that were cut out. As you are aware the hiring freeze is still implemented, and the Assistant Supervisors are on the Hiring Freeze. Come October 1, we have been budgeted so far, the County Manager is going to ask to have those positions reinstated. The Recreational aspect of the East Naples Community Center: We had requested $64,200 to fund it all year. ON 5/31/91 that allocation was cut back, as per budget, to $44,200 and again it was cut back for a six month phase in operation to $23,900. That includes one Community Center Aide for $11,200 (Operating Expense) and a Capital expense for (i.e. VCR's, TV's) for of $1500. Mr. Murdo Smith commented, "As you know the Bluebill property will have to be sold to reimburse 306 Fund with the money. If the property is sold, we won' t have to have these expenses in another budgeted fund, because they'll have the money available in 306. They won' t have to take that money out of the general Ad velorum Capital or Ad Velorum Taxes. They were budgeted in the 306 Fund last year, and the money was in that account to purchase those, and the money is still there, and we are planning on purchasing our (i.e. tables, chairs, and furniture) out of this year's capital budget. North Naples Community Center Operating. We had anticipated that building will be operational October 1, 1991. However, it is going to be a six month phase in. The original request was for $29,300, however now it is for $17,800 for six months. Again electrical, water, sewer, that type of thing. Strictly operational. A six month phase in means that the building will be done, and we're not operating it, it won' t open until six months out. But, we will adhere some operating expenses that will have to be run for those first six months. The reason we're putting people in there is purely budgetary. We were directed by the County Manager's office last week to cut it to a six month operation. So, six months puts us in April 1, 1992 just in time for the Summer Programs. Chairman Kobza commented, "Let's get it straight right now, in terms of our recommendation. This is the kind of stuff I want to the heart of. You know, what the options are. " Ms. Geneva Till, "If it's there, why not use it? It's going to cost us anyway. " So this involves the North Naples, East Naples, and Immokalee Community Centers. For the North Naples Community Center, the operation would be $29,300 for one year. The anticipated, 10/1/91, would be the cost incurred for operating for one year. The next figure of $17,800 sees for six months. You have to watch out there, one is maintenance, and one is strictly recreational. The net savings that we'd be realizing for that six month period on those three is half of the staffing and benefits. In terms of 7 dollars that would be $29,300 times three for a full year for each community center. You're looking at $64,200 as apposed to $23,900 and $29,300 as apposed to $17,800. That was cut twice. If we wanted to say what is the total cost if we operate them from the day they're on line, East Naples Community Center would be $29,300 and $64,200, North Naples would be $29,300 plus $59,700. So $59,700 would be for the full year, and $39,700 was the first cut, and the the last one is the second cut for six months at $19,700. So the difference at North Naples would be $40,000. When we did the cut, we didn' t mathematically just take half, there were other costs incurred (i.e. electric) even though we may not be in the building, and we still have to buy capital items (i.e. chairs, tables, etc.) . Start up costs. So the number if we operate the full year at North Naples is $59,700 plus $29,300 and if we operate for half a year it's $17,800 plus $19,700. If we cut down to six months operation, the personnel will still be in the park. The only position that we will not fill for six months is the Janitor's position for that facility. These people that are listed, are in addition to what we have now. As it stands right now, the Community Center Aide is the only position that will be funded out there. So the Park Supervisor and their Assistant would move from where they are now, to the other building. They'd be responsible in the same manner for the park, as they are now. So what we're saving is half the Janitor's salary for six months and program expenses. We won' t run the programs that we would've in the building. We won' t have the corresponding revenue, but we won' t also have the corresponding expenses. The program expenses are items like other contractual instructors that we hire out sometimes to run our programs, equipment that we might buy for those programs, arts & crafts supplies, any type of costs that's associated with a program that we won' t run, because we won' t have a building. The money will come from the General Fund (from 001 or 111) to run this more than 9 or 8 months. The first cut was the two Summer Camp Counselors, still assuming an October 1, 1991, . opening, so the difference is really $20,000 not $40,000 for a year. But there was some additional cuts in there also, from that 59. So, $60,000.00 more and we can open these three centers up. We won' t have the Summer Camp Counselors, but we can basically open the centers for $60,000 for those six months as a rough estimate. You will also have additional maintenance there, of about $11,000 per Center, so it amount to $90,000. Chairman Kobza commented, "I think it's outrageous that we would build buildings and leave them sit empty for six months, and I don' t think that there's a tax payer in this County that's going to stand for that!" Ms. Cherryle Thomas commented, "I'm going to talk to Commissioner Anne Goodnight, if by Center has to sit until April, 1992. Ms. Geneva Till motioned that when the buildings are completed, as planned, that they be in operation immediately. Ms. Cherryle Thomas seconded. Chairman Kobza, "We have a motion and a second that the County Board restore funding for the budget to allow for the immediate opening for the 3 Community Centers upon completion rather than the six month phase in as proposed by the County Manager, Dorrill. " The motion passed with a 3-0 vote. Chairman Kobza commented, "I'd really appreciate it if that would go to the County Board before the Friday Hearing. " Mr. Murdo Smith commented that If he couldn' t get it to them he'll make sure that when I have a meeting with them that PARAB strongly recommends that. Immokalee Middle School site: The original obligation there was $47,600. The first cut was a nine month phase in, the second cut was a six month phase in. We now have $28,700 to work with. That's six month operation. MSTD stands for Multiple Service Taxing District. There's another building out there that we are part and partial of, Immokalee Middle School. We are going to take over running that. The School Board says it'll probably be nine months, but I don' t 8 know if they're going to be out of there in time either. So that one may be questionable. Chairman Kobza commented, "It's basically it's the same situation. . .If it is available they why wouldn' t we be running it if it were available to us?" The School Board said that at the earliest they wouldn' t be out of there until January 1992. But we wouldn' t be running it until April. The difference between a nine month and a six month operation, would be be $28,700 as apposed to $38,300. That's for the Gymnasium at the Middle School Site. Right now the new building is not even half done, so we don' t know when they're going to get out of there. The new school will be located on 10th. and Immokalee Drive in Immokalee. Chairman Kobza, "Do we want to make the same motion in that case?" Ms. Cherryle Thomas, "Yes, make the funds available. " The MSTD would be to keep the taxing in Immokalee lower or at the same level as last year, they're taxed separately for these items in the Multiple Service Taxing District. so the millage rate, is we increased these, would go up. If these cuts were made, it's either to keep that millage rate consistent with last year, or possibly lower. Chairman Kobza, "That's an important distinction. " There is not a separate Advisory Board in that taxing district. So, if we were to make that motion that we made with respect to the Community Centers for this item, then it would have a tax consequence to the people within that district. Mr. Murdo Smith commented, that he doesn' t think that we should treat any one area different than any others area, they should all be the same. If we're going to vote one way for one, let's do it for all areas. Ms. Cherryle Thomas motioned to include Immokalee with the MSTD to be included for approval when the building is completed, let's open it. Chairman Kobza rephrased the motion to read, " . . . that there not be a phase in schedule, and that there be sufficient budgetary moneys available or sufficient operational moneys available in the budget for operating the Immokalee Middle School site when it's available. " The motion was seconded by Ms. Geneva Till , and the motion passed with a 3-0 vote. Capital Items: If you go back over the expanded requests from last meeting, the Park Ranger was eliminated from next year's budget. So that leaves us with four full time Rangers, plus two part time Rangers. It is quite possible for someone to cover Marco to Immokalee all in one night and still have to return back to Naples. That's a lot of mileage, and we are paying about $.21 per mile, plus their time. So, we can' t really give adequate coverage of the parks. Also, the down time, and the wear and tear on the equipment is getting cost prohibitive. So we would like to see us split up into districts, and we can accomplish that with one more Ranger. The Productivity Committee wanted to abolish the Rangers, or do away with the Park Ranger Position. Staff does not agree with that concept. The Committee wanted to have basically the Sheriff's Department do that function for us. One can' t speak for the Sheriffs, but they do visit our parks, they don' t have the capability to be in the parks as much as we would like them to be, because there are others things of a more serious nature that's more important than being in a park and making sure someone isn' t parked illegally. We try to do this with Park Rangers. We're more concerned with Criminal mischief activities in the parks. It's compliance to our ordinances by educating instead of arresting people and so forth. Chairman Kobza asked if there is any possibility of funding any of that through tourist tax. Right now staff will say no, but will investigate that possibility. A percentage of the Rangers' time is dedicated to the beach areas, and providing a measure of security. Conklin point was phased in at nine months for a three month operations. It will be open by July, 1992. The Barefoot Beach Bath House is out. That was a mistake on staff's part. Staff had anticipated budgeting some money this year for that, so it's not an expanded request. We thought that would have been done already this year, but it's not. The EMS Building Grounds 9 Maintenance was removed. Everything else was basically in, except of course the cut back on the Community Centers. The Baseball Fields will remain the same. That was just basically electricity. Athletic Programs was left in. We would encompass the Park Ranger Program in our existing Maintenance Districts (i.e. Marco, East Naples, Immokalee) and they would spend a preponderance of their time in that respective district. One person per district. So rather than having swing shift, they would just work different times during the week, (i.e. , 8-5, 3-dusk) but then they would be responsible for all the parks within that district (i.e. Community Parks, Beaches, etc.) . In North Naples, you'd still have one person splitting all their time between the beaches and the Community Park there. But you'd also have two part time Rangers at Barefoot Beach Preserve that would help out immensely. That's very narrow travel time. The distance from Marco to Immokalee and back is about 150 miles. For the Park Ranger Program, in our mileage application we are using instead of the budgetary figure of 12,000 miles roughly about 21,000 to 24,000 miles a year put on each individual truck. It't $.21 per mile, and will be moved up to $.24 in the new budget year. That is going on with each Ranger, however, that's not to say it's happening every night. The only it does not happen to, is the Ranger Supervisor. Everyday out of a Ranger's time they are spending about 40% of their time on the road as apposed to in a park. By having one more Ranger we would be getting 90% coverage time per Ranger or 12 hours a week for each Rangers. So, that's like gaining a full person by adding one. So, if you add one you gain two, is basically what happens. The County is like 2,000 miles square, so there is a lot of area to cover. You actually have only 3 Rangers and 1 Ranger Supervisor to cover that. The Supervisor will be out in the field as much as possible, she may spend some time in the office doing some administrative paperwork, and she has April (mounted horse patrol) also. Vacation coverage is extremely difficult. Nan has to try to fill in for any Ranger that's on vacation also. The Park Ranger functions are: Patrolling park, environmental in nature (relating to the sea turtles) , some of the activities up at the Preserve in the wetland areas, and also Ordinance Enforcement within all our County Parks. They are now empowered to write citations. However citations will only be issued to offenders relating to such crimes as dune destruction, cutting down cypress trees, etc. It's not for writing tickets, or glass containers in the park or anything like that. For example, cutting the fence, that type of citation is really a notice to appear in front of a Judge. The other types have yet to be addressed. We are in the process of getting that addressed through the Attorney's office and through the Board of County Commissioners to assign a fee for drinking a beer in the park, walking a dog in the park, or a parking fine, etc. The salary for a Park Ranger itself, is $15,776.00 That is not including benefits, a truck, any type of capital purchases to outfit that Ranger. The $55,000.00 is just one Ranger, which includes the vehicle. Chairman Kobza asked what the possibility of us using a Vehicle that would otherwise be retired out. Is there a way we can reduce the cost in order to make it effective. Gary Franco commented that it's definitely a possibility. They may even utilize one of our Staff trucks when we're not using it, depending upon how their shift goes, that we can explore that possibility. Mr. Murdo Smith commented that we've tried to explore the possibility of utilizing on of our staff trucks in the past. The problem that we had there was equipment, light, the 14 hour days. It's hard using our own vehicles. Chairman Kobza suggested the we may not always have to use the lights, perhaps we could always have that Ranger on the beach. To try to justify $55,000 to the County Board will be tough. One more possibility, they are phasing out some trucks within the County right now. Their may be that 10 possibility of getting an older truck with no capital cost at all incurred. $15,700 is the salary, for a Park Ranger with benefits it is probably around $21,000 to $22,000. In that ball park. That park of it I'd feel good about, I'd have a harder time saying that we need to go out and buy new trucks. The $55,000 includes uniforms, travel mileage, etc. The travel wouldn' t be so much if we had one in each area. It would be a big cutback there. You'd have some travel time, but you can decrease it quite a bit in a district. Ms. Geneva Till suggested that PARAB recommend a Ranger for each area, since there would be money saved from the travel time, it wouldn' t be $55,000.00 Chairman Kobza suggested that PARAB make the recommendation to the County Board to add the additional Park Ranger in the Budget to allow districting of the Park Ranger program, and to restore whatever funding is necessary to get that accomplished. Ms. Geneva Till, "Don' t be too specific with it. Let's just say that we want to have one in each area and that we feel that it won' t be $55,000. . . " Ms. Geneva Till made a motion to recommend to the County Board to add the additional Park Ranger in the budget to allow districting of the Park Ranger Program and whatever funding is necessary to get that accomplished. Ms. Cherryle Thomas seconded the motion. the motion passed with a 3-0 vote. Chairman Kobza, "I think that needs to get to the County Board by Friday too" MSTD FUND 111: The Agriculture Grounds Maintenance (Fairgrounds) is still in. This is all the Operational Elements. Mr. Murdo Smith commented, that concerning the state of the County as far as the economy, he thought the County Manager and the Budget Department was very generous with some of our requests. Capital Projects: Fund 703 is the Community Parks Phase II. The tentative 1992 budget is in excess of 4 million. Included in that the Football/Soccer Fields at Golden Gate, North Naples, and Immokalee Park are still in. The Community Center at Golden Gate Community Park is out. The Racquetball courts are out at North Naples, Golden Gate, and at East Naples. The Fitness trails at East Naples is in. The Baseball fields located at Golden Gate and North Naples Community Park are in, and the Shuffleboard Courts are out. That takes care of the Phase II Community Parks. Boat Ramps were cut from six to four, Conklin Point only. The Community Pool is still in, however, the Engineering fees are still out, and that's $26,000. This is additional Engineering for that pool. The Engineering is ongoing at the present time by Wilson Miller. The Jogging Trails are out. The dividing wall for $25,000, at Frank Mackle is out. Clam Pass Park Utilities are in. The reserves for contingency is $433,000. What the County Manager wants to do, is request to the BCC that the Board let him know if they want to go with the 25 or 50 Meter Pool in Golden Gate. If you look at the cost of the 50 Meter Pool, it is three million dollars, and the County Manager would like the BCC to decide if they want to spend three million or 1 .5 million dollars for a 25 Meter Pool. So that's what we have right now. A 50 Meter Pool is a big pool, it is a Regional type of Facility, and that's the reason it's in there. The Barefoot Parking Lot/& trail, the Multipurpose building (ENCP) , the Regional Park Land are all still in. Mr. Murdo Smith, "To be very honest with you, I think the first review of budgets with the County Managers went real well. I think he was very generous to us, he didn' t really do away with any Employees except for the Part-Time Summer Programs, and we've got the Community Centers are in there. Right now, they are at a six month operation, but I think that will change. And we get all of our people back, they are budgeted for October 1, and have not yet been removed from the budget, but not if they continue the hiring freeze. " Chairman Kobza will be at the Budget workshop on 06/28/91 . _ ce: For the Lester Court settlement with the County, we received two additional Park 11 Ranger Horses. Their names are Jazn (Buddy) , and Collier Alladin (Junior) . Buddy is ready to go. In fact he will be in Immokalee sometime before Friday. Collier Alladin is a beautiful horse, but it's too young yet, it's a wild stallion, and will be very difficult to train. I'm sure Nan will do her best. He paid $27,000.00 back to the County, plus the agreement stated that he would have to give up two additional horses to the County. So apparently he had paid boarding fees for the years we've been taking care of the horses. Note: One item that need to be addressed, is the appointment of Thralls. The lady that was previously recommended, lives outside the District. So, the question is can we send up to the County Board with a Recommendation. So, it will go before the BCC on July 24, 1991. So he could theoretically be at our next meeting. Ms. Geneva Till recommended that Mr. Rodney E. Thralls be a part of the Collier County Parks & Recreation Advisory Board. Ms. Cherryle Thomas seconded, and the motion passed with a 3-0 Vote F. COOL Concession, Inc. : Staff was unable to contact Chairman Kobza, but were able to contact Mr. Gil Mueller in his place. The County Manager's Department wanted to act quickly on this. COOL Concession, Inc. asked the County if they could be our agent in applying for a permit from the State to do some improvements to the Concession on Tigertail. At the time it was not big concern to us, because we thought that we could have the authority to say yes. However, the County Manager said no, it has to go before the Board, to write an Executive Summary and get it up there soon so we don' t delay them. What they're trying to do, is put a decking and an enclosure around the concession down at Tigertail. We gave them permission to go to the State and to the County acting as an agent of us to apply for those permits. I talked to Mr. Mueller at the time, and he had no problem with it. G. CSOA Contract: That's the contract that we enter into every year for our sports officiating Officials. So our Umpires, our Scorekeepers, in Immokalee, here, and the Greater Naples area. We have a contract in place right now. There weren' t any other competing organizations, so instead of going back out to bid, we want to extend the contract we have now in place with them for the same amount. What that means as far as dollar amounts, $45,000.00 for the next year is already budgeted in that specific line item. Ms. Geneva Till commented that if the Coaches are reasonably satisfied, then she would be for it. This is the only organization that exists with sufficient number officials to officiate at all our softball games. When I say Softball officials, you don' t think that there are very many, but there are hundreds of these officials out there, and there is only one organization who has that kind of capability, and that's CSOA. All their fees now are paid through sponsor fees. Everything is included in the sponsor fees (i.e. lights, balls, trophies) , and that's for your Scorekeeper, Umpires, etc. So if a Softball team came to pay $500.00 for a sponsor fee, then that's included. But, it's money the County has to receive, and then put out. Ms. Geneva Till motioned that we continue this CSOA Contract. Ms. Cherryle Thomas seconded, and the motion passed with a 3-0 vote. VI. Reports/Updates: It was decided to skip everything on the Reports/Updates List except for items specifically requested for discussion by either the PARAB Members or Staff. 12 C. Tigertail Vegetation: Mr. Gary Franco read something in the newspapers. In response to the Army Corps of Engineers' public notice, a group or a department, is suggesting that we do not clear the beach at Tigertail because it is going to destroy the fishing industry out there. So, staff does not know what is going to happen that way, and it does not appear to be a positive response. The closing date was the 25th. for the public notice, so we should be getting a response back from the Army Corps of Engineers shortly. They have the final word as to whether they are going to issue the permit or not. D. Immokalee Airport Park Bathrooms: Ms. Cherryle Thomas said it best, they're going good. She has been checking with them once a week. The roofs are one. The fixtures are not in yet. However, the cement and pipe is in. It is progressing on schedule, unfortunately it won' t be open for the Forth of July. G. Vanderbilt Beach Accesses and Parking: Chairman Kobza asked about the possibility of using Impact Fee moneys to do the turn-around up there. Mr. Murdo Smith commented that he would have to ask the County Manager. Chairman Kobza, "I know the budget is going forward, is there a potential for that. Because it won' t take much money. Between that and potential restroom facilities. . . " Mr. Murdo Smith commented, "Restroom facilities we'll have a problem with. . . I don' t think we can permit it. . . We had at one point $70,000 for bathrooms, and we could not get permitted for it. When we tried it, the state just said no way!" The money was not spent, so we lost it. We hadn' t spent it in a couple of years, because we couldn' t get the permits. Then it was just put back into the General Fund. ivote: Ms. Cherryle Thomas asked about the Picnic tables at Airport Park as a Capital expense. Is that was for the Future? Mr. Gary Franco, commented that yes it is. The tables are about $300 a piece. We have $13,000 allocated for it. We are going to destroy the concrete ones and purchase some better type of picnic equipment in there. Note: Ms. Cherryle Thomas commented that she has received three letters about the hose bib fountain outside the men's room at the Airport Park Bathrooms. Is staff planning on making a water fountain out of that? Staff has had no previous plans for that fountain. Mr. Gary Franco commented that a water fountain would be put in there. H. Community Centers: Everything has been going very well, no problems. As a matter of fact, at North Naples they are starting to bring in their combustables, and that means they are going to start putting their trusses up this week. So it's moving pretty well. The other ones are not behind schedule, but they are not as far along as North Naples is. Note: Chairman Kobza asked about about the access back and forth from the Fields to the Community Center. Mr. Murdo Smith commented that we're probably going to wind up clearing a path. Florida has to come in with some power there, so it's got to be cleared anyway. It was decided to regulate traffic. In the first tier parking we'd have tennis courts and basketball, in the second tier we'd have parking for softball, then the Community Center would have an arrow going down to it. We'd try to deflect the traffic into the second tier parking lot. 13 It was suggested that staff look into the possibility of putting in a walkway between the softball field and the Field Control Facility. I. Football/Soccer Field Immokalee: The substantial completion has already occurred. Within 30 days of last Thursday, it will be turned over to the Parks & Recreation Department. Ms. Cherryle Thomas asked if that mound of dirt is for any purpose, because she was contacted by the Jack Queen Construction Company, who wanted to use it. Staff said that the plans are to knock it down and level it off a little bit, and when we do the rest of the site, we'd be using the dirt. There are about 50 parking spaces there, the football/soccer field, a little landscaping, and a sprinkler system. J. Frank E. Mackle Jr. Building Expansion: Unfortunately the project has been delayed. The is a 16 days extension granted. You might have read about it in the newspapers. That was due to some shop drawings, technical in nature, between the Architect and the Engineering firm, that has since been rectified. Hopefully that will be open in mid July. Hopefully! Note: Chairman Kobza commented that Mr. Gil Mueller requested a special meeting the second week in July. It will be very brief. The Productivity Committee issued a report, and a draft copy has been sent to each PARAB member. So far, neither staff or the PARAB members have gotten a final draft. It was agreed to hold a Special meeting on July 10, at 1:30 p.m. , at the Golden Gate Community Park, Administrative Office, to discuss this subject. e: Ms. Cherryle Thomas asked about a vacation month for the PARAB members. It was suggested if a month were to be taken, it should be August, and that this would be discussed at the Regular Meeting in July. Note: Ms. Geneva Till commented that she was very pleased with the repaving of the parking lot at the Aaron Lutz Park. Mr. Murdo Smith commented that it was just striped last week. VI. Adjournment: Ms. Geneva Till motioned to adjourn the meeting. Ms. Cherryle Thomas seconded, and the motion passed with a 3-0 vote. The meeting was adjourned at 4:20 p.m. rtd:003569 14