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Minutes 02/27/2015 R Park & Recreation Advisory Board ( PARAN ) Minutes February 27 , 1991 (Corrected) MINUTES COLLIER COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD Golden Gate Community Park, Administrative Office February 27, 1991 PRESENT: Mr. Kim Kobza, Chairman ABSENT: Ms. Cherryle Thomas Mr. Steven Ball, Vice Chairman (arrived at 1:42 p.m.) Mr. Gil Mueller Ms. Geneva Till I. Call to Order: The meeting was called to order at 1:30 p.m. II. Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag: III. Approval of Minutes: Ms. Geneva Till asked Murdo Smith to clarify "...parking during peak hours possibly would be a scheduling type of control." In order to make the most use of the parking, we will have to schedule the pool certain hours. Mr. Gil Mueller motioned to approve the Minutes for the 01/23/91 PARAB Meeting. Ms. Geneva Till seconded, and the motion passed unanimously with a 3-0 vote. Chairman Kobza explained the new format of the PARAB Agenda. Before we start the presentations, any Board member who wants a specific item discussed from the "Reports/Updates" list should make that request when we get to item number IV, much like the Consent Agenda at the County Commission. We'll hold the discussion on that item, and then proceed to "New Business/Presentations". This will allow us to have presentations made in a timely manner. On the "New Business/Presentations", any Board member can request at the prior Board meeting that an item be placed for presentation for discussion and Board action. Next will be "Reports/Updates". We will discuss those items Board members request specifically discussed, or that staff feels on which updates are needed. Then finally "New Business". This discussion on general information or questions that people have, or items the Board should consider. IV. REQUESTS FOR DISCUSSION - SPECIFIC UPDATE ITEMS: none V. NEW BUSINESS/PRESENTATIONS: A. Golden Gate Little League: Mr. Kingsley Fink from the Golden Gate Little League (GGLL), was present to discuss the possibility of constructing a Little League field at the Golden Gate Community Park. Currently the Master Plan calls for a Little League field to be located behind the field control center, at the far Eastern end of this park, and an additional parking lot. It was in the budget request last year and deferred because of funding. PARAB suggested that the more appropriate time to discuss this issue would be in May, at their Budget Meeting, and invited Mr. Fink to return then. Chairman Kobza directed Murdo Smith to try to have our budget meeting on the fourth Wednesday in May at 1:30 p.m. Mr. Gil Mueller suggested, that by not including the lights, we may be able to put the field in sooner. No lights would be a concern with Little League, because most activities start after 5:00 p.m. as volunteer Coaches work until then. B. Immokalee Child Care Expansion: Mr. John Lawson, Mr. Fred Swetland a Landscape Architect, and Ms. Barbara Sweinberg presented a plan to expand the child care facility at South Immokalee Park to accomodate the "Step By Step" program. The day-care center sits at the Northwest corner of our park. Last year "Step By Step" had 250 children in the program. Because of the growth and the number of children, a proposal was made by "Step by Step" to establish a center in Immokalee, Florida, in cooperation with the Collier County Public Schools at Immokalee Day Care in order to provide integrated services to "at risk" and developmentally delayed infants and pre-schoolers. Permission asked for: (1) to move a fence line 10 feet from the current location. (2) to place a portable on site or expand building including hookup to electric, water, and sewer. (3) to participate in the lease of this County property. (4) to expand parking on the site to meet County code. Activities would proceed according to the child's abilities. Their program includes children from birth to three years of age. At the age of three, the children would then have the opportunity to go on to regular public specialized programs in the public school system. This is a new project under Public Line #99457. We are one one of the first in the state to actually look at developing this type of service. We must have consistency throughout the County in the ways that we provide the services. The Head Start program does not look at this type of population, the severity, and the disability. Head Start starts at about three years of age. Some of the children, but not a majority of them, would be able to go on to a Head Start program. Some families will share in the expense of our program, but it is not a requirement. The BCC would have final approval because of the lease issue. Future expansion into the park would be a problem. Parking alongside of the road would not be allowed. Step by Step is fully licensed by the HRS & have insurance. Mr. Gil Mueller motioned that PARAB endorse the concept as related to "Step by Step" and items one through three on the proposal list. Principally to move the fence line 10 feet from the current location; secondly permission to place a portable on site or expand the building including hookup to the electric, water, and sewer; and thirdly permission to participate in the lease of the County property. In addition staff should work with these people, and come back with an overall plan. Staff added that there are other departments that we have to go through in the County, in order to get this achieved. Mr. Steve Ball seconded, and the motion passed unanimously with a 4-0 vote. Page #2 C. Immokalee Airport Park Bathroom: Sealed bids for renovations of the Immokalee Airport Park bathrooms were opened on February 6, 1991. The bid was advertised on January 14, 1991. Inquiries were sent to twenty nine (29) vendors. A tabulation sheet was attached to the Executive Summary for PARAB's review. The Parks & Recreation Department is recommending that A.J. Cross Construction of Naples, Florida, be awarded the bid in the amount of $29,885.00. Ms. Geneva Till motioned that PARAB accept this bid for $29,885 from A.J. Cross Construction for the Immokalee Airport Park bathrooms. Mr. Gil Mueller seconded, and the motion passed unanimously with a 4-0 vote. VI. REPORTS/UPDATES: A. Bonita Beach Park: This is the park on the northern boundary of Collier County. Staff presented the Master Plan to the Board of County Commissioners, and they asked us to come back with additional information, so they could make their decision on whether they wanted to proceed with the plan or not. The report is due back by their April meeting with Lee County. Chairman Kobza requested to put "Bonita Beach Park" on our Presentation list in March, 1991, to have an in-depth discussion then. B. Recycling: Our Department has purchased trash containers and placed them at beach access sites throughout the County. Parks & Recreation will implement this program until such time that the Waste Management program gets started. C. Tigertail Vegetation: Last week, Wednesday, we received Notice to Proceed from the State Department of Natural Resources to remove vegetation. That meant we had complied with all special permit conditions. We started the vegetation removal on Thursday morning and are approximately two thirds complete. We should have most of the southern and middle section complete by the end of this week, and next week we will be starting on the northern section. We have staked off the DER's jurisdictional area, and have not gone beyond that. We have applied for a permit from the DER to remove the vegetation that is seaward of their jurisdiction line. Mr. Gil Mueller made a few comments about the BCC Meeting on 02/26/91. The whole process for vegetation removal took 17 months. D. Immokalee Airport Park Bathrooms: See item #V.-C. above. E. 951 Boat Ramp Parking: Staff has contacted the Purchasing Department to look into the possibility of placing a concession barge at the Coast Guard facility on State Road 951. F. Pools: At the last meeting the Board directed staff to ask the County Manager for some direction regarding the Pool issue. The County Manager directed staff to perform a survey of all the recreational pool facilities in Southwest Florida to see what types of pools they operate. We will be taking the survey to the County Manager hopefully within the next two weeks and bring it back to the next Advisory Board meeting. G. Vanderbilt Beach Accesses and Parking: Staff was instructed by the County Manager to locate beach accesses at Vanderbilt beach that are 10 feet wide. We did that in conjunction with the Transportation Department. We installed signage and put a bicycle rack at the beach accesses. H. Community Centers: The award of the bid was approved by the BCC on February 12, 1991. The contracts have been sent to the Contractors, and they are in the process of signing them. When received and signed by the County, a Notice to Proceed will be issued. I. Football/Soccer Field Immokalee: We had our first construction meeting, and the contracts have been signed. So hopefully work will be proceeding very shortly. J. Division Responsibilities for 1991: The suggestion was each member take responsibility for one or two facilities within their area, maybe a County park and a beach, or something along those lines. We are to stop in once or twice a month, check on the maintenance, and identify any issues. Then come back and report to the Board on the needs of that facility or that beach. It will also educate the Board, so they know what's going on. Mr. Steve Ball suggested to do this within the person's own district. It was suggested that Mr. Steve Ball, since he is the representative for the City, take responsibility for the East Naples area. Ms. Geneva Till requested a "Parks & Recreation" pin that each member could wear when visiting these areas to identify themselves to the public. PARAB requested from staff a list of the parks that they have in each district. Mr. Murdo Smith will go ahead and break up the parks in everybody's district, and he will send a letter out to each member showing what parks are in each person's district.. K. Listing of Donated Properties: Mr. Murdo Smith has talked to Real Property several times. Their concern right now, is that this is going to take some time to do. Currently, they don't have the staff to perform that work. However, they have checked with Planning Review to check to see if there is any outstanding P.U.D.'s that they know of, and they are researching their files. Page #3 L. Frank E. Mackie Jr. Building Expansion: All the contracts will be signed today, or relatively soon. The County Attorney and Purchasing Agent are signing the contracts this afternoon. Hopefully we will be able to give them a Notice to Proceed tomorrow. Some of the work should be started within the next two weeks. M. Conklin Point Boat Ramp: Request for Proposals for engineer funds were turned in to the County last Friday. A review team will be getting together shortly to review the proposals and make a recommendation of the top three firms. There were approximately 11 companies that submitted proposals to the Purchasing Department. N. Tigertail Food Concessionaire: The Purchasing Department and our County Attorneys have reviewed the contract. It has been signed by Mr. Herbst, and by the County Attorney's office. The contract will be going to the BCC in the near future for their approval. VII. NEW BUSINESS A. Lely Barefoot Task Force Meeting Chairman Kobza reported that the County Commissioners were meeting regarding the issue of charging $1.00 at Lely Barefoot Beach. Mr. Gil Mueller was present at the meeting. A Task Force was formed involving County Commissioner Mike Volpe, John Agnali who is the President of Lely, Margerie Ward who is representing residents of Bonita Springs, the Manager from the Lely Barefoot Board Homeowners association, and Jennifer Pike, the Assistant to the County Manager, and Mr. Kim Kobza. John Agnali has presented to the County a proposal for a $1.00 a car at the gate. Chairman Kobza related PARAB's discussion and recommendation on Lely Barefoot Beach. Chairman Kobza made a recommendation to the Task Force. Would Mr. Agnali contribute to the cost of a Park Ranger. He said yes, qualified upon us charging $1.00. The problem with that is that you're handing a dollar to a non-public employee. That is a very philosophical and emotional issue with a lot of citizens up there. Basically the Task Force worked along the lines of that suggestion. Mr. Murdo Smith explained that the direction he had received from the County Manager's office after the meeting on Friday, was to go about it a little differently than the Park Ranger approach. What was suggested was the same type of situation that we have at Tigertail to have some type of booth with a person or Part-time employees. B. Workshop to Establish PARAB Goals the Coming Year Chairman Kobza requested that PARAB take a couple of hours for a workshop without a formal Agenda to discuss some things we want to get accomplished. Some topics to be discussed, could include: (1) Goals for the coming year; (2) Level of Service standards; (3) New budget Year. PARAB agreed to schedule a two (2) hour workshop, where they are not encumbered by an Agenda, for a Wednesday afternoon at 1:30 p.m. about the middle of March. C. Clam Pass Park Chairman Kobza stated that Mr. Charles Popper, who is the head of the Registry Hotel and Joe Mc Mackin, the Attorney for the unit owners contacted him about an issue relating to Clam Pass Park. The issue is being proposed to our Board first, and then the County Board, that when the third pod is built, they be allowed to serve alcohol to limited events like their conventions. One of the problems that they have, apparently in their convention business, is they lose conventions because they can't have beach events. The Ritz down the street, can serve alcohol in a limited area. Chairman Kobza requested that when they ask to present their issue to PARAB, that he would like to have the Concession Agreement, and it may be that we should have a request for legal services, Assistant County Attorney Richard Yovanovich be present to answer questions regarding liability concerns, how it affects the concession agreement, etc. D. Lely Contract: Mr. Gil Mueller asked Murdo if he was able to obtain a copy of the Agreement between Lely Corporation and the County as it relates to Barefoot Beach. Mr. Murdo Smith commented we don't have it in our Department, but he has contacted Compliance Services and Project Review and it will be obtained up there. VI. Adjournment: Mr. Gil Mueller motioned to adjourn the meeting. Ms. Geneva Till seconded, and the motion passed unanimously with a 4-0 vote. PARAB adjourned at 4:08 p.m. rtd:003165 MINUTES COLLIER COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD Golden Gate Community Park, Administrative Office February 27, 1990 PRESENT: Mr. Kim Kobza, Chairman ABSENT: Ms. Cherryle Thomas Mr. Steven Ball, Vice Chairman (arrived at 1:42 p.m.) Mr. Gil Mueller Ms. Geneva Till I. Call to Order: The meeting was called to order at 1:30 p.m. II. Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag: III. Approval of Minutes: Ms. Geneva Till asked Murdo Smith to clarify "...parking during peak hours possibly would be a scheduling type of control." In order to make the most use of the parking, we will have to schedule the pool certain hours. Mr. Gil Mueller motioned to approve the Minutes for the 01/23/91 PARAB Meeting. Ms. Geneva Till seconded, and the motion passed unanimously with a 3-0 vote. Chairman Kobza explained the new format of the PARAB Agenda. Before we start the presentations, any Board member who wants a specific item discussed from the "Reports/Updates" list should make that request when we get to item number IV, much like the Consent Agenda at the County Commission. We'll hold the discussion on that item, and then proceed to "New Business/Presentations". This will allow us to have presentations made in a timely manner. On the "New Business/Presentations", any Board member can request at the prior Board meeting that an item be placed for presentation for discussion and Board action. Next wilt be "Reports/Updates". We will discuss those items Board members request specifically discussed, or that staff feels on which updates are needed. Then finally "New Business". This discussion on general information or questions that people have, or items the Board should consider. IV. REQUESTS FOR DISCUSSION - SPECIFIC UPDATE ITEMS: none V. NEW BUSINESS/PRESENTATIONS: A. Golden Gate Little League: Mr. Kingsley Fink from the Golden Gate Little League (GGLL), was present to discuss the possibility of constructing a Little League field at the Golden Gate Community Park. Currently the Master Plan calls for a Little League field to be located behind the field control center, at the far Eastern end of this park, and an additional parking lot. It was in the budget request last year and deferred because of funding. PARAB suggested that the more appropriate time to discuss this issue would be in May, at their Budget Meeting, and invited Mr. Fink to return then. Chairman Kobza directed Murdo Smith to try to have our budget meeting on the fourth Wednesday in May at 1:30 p.m. Mr. Gil Mueller suggested, that by not including the lights, we may be able to put the field in sooner. No lights would be a concern with Little League, because most activities start after 5:00 p.m. as volunteer Coaches work until then. B. Immokalee Child Care Expansion: Mr. John Lawson, Mr. Fred Swetland a Landscape Architect, and Ms. Barbara Sweinberg presented a plan to expand the child care facility at South Immokalee Park to accomodate the "Step By Step" program. The day-care center sits at the Northwest corner of our park. Last year mStep By Step" had 250 children in the program. Because of the growth and the number of children, a proposal was made by "Step by Step" to establish a center in Immokalee, Florida, in cooperation with the Collier County Public Schools at Immokalee Day Care in order to provide integrated services to "at risk" and developmentally delayed infants and pre-schoolers. Permission asked for: (1) to move a fence line 10 feet from the current location. (2) to place a portable on site or expand building including hookup to electric, water, and sewer. (3) to participate in the lease of this County property. (4) to expand parking on the site to meet County code. Activities would proceed according to the child's abilities. Their program includes children from birth to three years of age. At the age of three, the children would then have the opportunity to go on to regular public specialized programs in the public school system. This is a new project under Public Line #99457. We are one one of the first in the state to actually look at developing this type of service. We must have consistency throughout the County in the ways that we provide the services. The Head Start program does not look at this type of population, the severity, and the disability. Head Start starts at about three years of age. Some of the children, but not a majority of them, would be able to go on to a Head Start program. Some families will share in the expense of our program, but it is not a requirement. The BCC would have final approval because of the lease issue. Future expansion into the park would be a problem. Parking alongside of the road would not be allowed. Step by Step is fully licensed by the HRS & have insurance. Mr. Gil Mueller motioned that PARAB endorse the concept as related to "Step by Step" and items one through three on the proposal list. Principally to move the fence line 10 feet from the current location; secondly permission to place a portable on site or expand the building including hookup to the electric, water, and sewer; and thirdly permission to participate in the lease of the County property. In addition staff should work with these people, and come back with an overall plan. Staff added that there are other departments that we have to go through in the County, in order to get this achieved. Mr. Steve Ball seconded, and the motion passed unanimously with a 4-0 vote. Page #2 C. Immokalee Airport Park Bathroom: Sealed bids for renovations of the Immokalee Airport Park bathrooms were opened on February 6, 1991. The bid was advertised on January 14, 1991. Inquiries were sent to twenty nine (29) vendors. A tabulation sheet was attached to the Executive Summary for PARAB's review. The Parks & Recreation Department is recommending that A.J. Cross Construction of Naples, Florida, be awarded the bid in the amount of $29,885.00. Ms. Geneva Till motioned that PARAB accept this bid for $29,885 from A.J. Cross Construction for the Immokalee Airport Park bathrooms. Mr. Gil Mueller seconded, and the motion passed unanimously with a 4-0 vote. VI. REPORTS/UPDATES: A. Bonita Beach Park: This is the park on the northern boundary of Collier County. Staff presented the Master Plan to the Board of County Commissioners, and they asked us to come back with additional information, so they could make their decision on whether they wanted to proceed with the plan or not. The report is due back by their April meeting with Lee County. Chairman Kobza requested to put "Bonita Beach Park" on our Presentation list in March, 1991, to have an in-depth discussion then. B. Recycling: Our Department has purchased trash containers and placed them at beach access sites throughout the County. Parks & Recreation will implement this program until such time that the Waste Management program gets started. C. Tigertail Vegetation: Last week, Wednesday, we received Notice to Proceed from the State Department of Natural Resources to remove vegetation. That meant we had complied with all special permit conditions. We started the vegetation removal on Thursday morning and are approximately two thirds complete. We should have most of the southern and middle section complete by the end of this week, and next week we will be starting on the northern section. We have staked off the DER's jurisdictional area, and have not gone beyond that. We have applied for a permit from the DER to remove the vegetation that is seaward of their jurisdiction line. Mr. Gil Mueller made a few comments about the BCC Meeting on 02/26/91. The whole process for vegetation removal took 17 months. D. Immokalee Airport Park Bathrooms: See item #V.-C. above. E. 951 Boat Ramp Parking: Staff has contacted the Purchasing Department to look into the possibility of placing a concession barge at the Coast Guard facility on State Road 951. F. Pools: At the last meeting the Board directed staff to ask the County Manager for some direction regarding the Pool issue. The County Manager directed staff to perform a survey of all the recreational pool facilities in Southwest Florida to see what types of pools they operate. We will be taking the survey to the County Manager hopefully within the next two weeks and bring it back to the next Advisory Board meeting. G. Vanderbilt Beach Accesses and Parking: Staff was instructed by the County Manager to locate beach accesses at Vanderbilt beach that are 10 feet wide. We did that in conjunction with the Transportation Department. We installed signage and put a bicycle rack at the beach accesses. H. Community Centers: The award of the bid was approved by the BCC on February 12, 1991. The contracts have been sent to the Contractors, and they are in the process of signing them. When received and signed by the County, a Notice to Proceed will be issued. I. Football/Soccer Field Immokalee: We had our first construction meeting, and the contracts have been signed. So hopefully work will be proceeding very shortly. J. Division Responsibilities for 1991: The suggestion was each member take responsibility for one or two facilities within their area, maybe a County park and a beach, or something along those lines. We are to stop in once or twice a month, check on the maintenance, and identify any issues. Then come back and report to the Board on the needs of that facility or that beach. It will also educate the Board, so they know what's going on. Mr. Steve Ball suggested to do this within the person's own district. It was suggested that Mr. Steve Ball, since he is the representative for the City, take responsibility for the East Naples area. Ms. Geneva Till requested a "Parks & Recreation" pin that each member could wear when visiting these areas to identify themselves to the public. PARAB requested from staff a list of the parks that they have in each district. Mr. Murdo Smith will go ahead and break up the parks in everybody's district, and he will send a letter out to each member showing what parks are in each person's district.. K. Listing of Donated Properties: Mr. Murdo Smith has talked to Real Property several times. Their concern right now, is that this is going to take some time to do. Currently, they don't have the staff to perform that work. However, they have checked with Planning Review to check to see if there is any outstanding P.U.D.'s that they know of, and they are researching their files. Page #3 L. Frank E. Mackle Jr. Building Expansion: All the contracts will be signed today, or relatively soon. The County Attorney and Purchasing Agent are signing the contracts this afternoon. Hopefully we will be able to give them a Notice to Proceed tomorrow. Some of the work should be started within the next two weeks. M. Conklin Point Boat Ramp: Request for Proposals for engineer funds were turned in to the County last Friday. A review team will be getting together shortly to review the proposals and make a recommendation of the top three firms. There were approximately 11 companies that submitted proposals to the Purchasing Department. N. Tigertail Food Concessionaire: The Purchasing Department and our County Attorneys have reviewed the contract. It has been signed by Mr. Herbst, and by the County Attorney's office. The contract will be going to the BCC in the near future for their approval. VII. NEW BUSINESS A. Lely Barefoot Task Force Meeting • Chairman Kobza reported that the County Commissioners were meeting regarding the issue of charging $1.00 at Lely Barefoot Beach. Mr. Gil Mueller was present at the meeting. A Task Force was formed involving County Commissioner Mike Volpe, John Agnali who is the President of Lely, Margerie Ward who is representing residents of Bonita Springs, the Manager from the Lely Barefoot Board Homeowners association, and Jennifer Pike, the Assistant to the County Manager, Mr. Kim Kobza, and Mr. Gil Mueller. John Agnali has presented to the County a proposal for a $1.00 a car at the gate. Chairman Kobza related PARAB's discussion and recommendation on Lely Barefoot Beach. Chairman Kobza made a recommendation to the Task Force. Would Mr. Agnali contribute to the cost of a Park Ranger. He said yes, qualified upon us charging $1.00. The problem with that is that you're handing a dollar to a non-public employee. That is a very philosophical and emotional issue with a lot of citizens up there. Basically the Task Force worked along the lines of that suggestion. Mr. Murdo Smith explained that the direction he had received from the County Manager's office after the meeting on Friday, was to go about it a little differently than the Park Ranger approach. What was suggested was the same type of situation that we have at Tigertail to have some type of booth with a person or Part-time employees. B. Workshop to Establish PARAB Goals the Coming Year Chairman Kobza requested that PARAB take a couple of hours for a workshop without a formal Agenda to discuss some things we want to get accomplished. Some topics to be discussed, could include: (1) Goals for the coming year; (2) Level of Service standards; (3) New budget Year. PARAB agreed to schedule a two (2) hour workshop, where they are not encumbered by an Agenda, for a Wednesday afternoon at 1:30 p.m. about the middle of March. C. Clam Pass Park Chairman Kobza stated that Mr. Charles Popper, who is the head of the Registry Hotel and Joe Mc Mackin, the Attorney for the unit owners contacted him about an issue relating to Clam Pass Park. The issue is being proposed to our Board first, and then the County Board, that when the third pod is built, they be allowed to serve alcohol to limited events like their conventions. One of the problems that they have, apparently in their convention business, is they lose conventions because they can't have beach events. The Ritz down the street, can serve alcohol in a limited area. Chairman Kobza requested that when they ask to present their issue to PARAB, that he would like to have the Concession Agreement, and it may be that we should have a request for legal services, Assistant County Attorney Richard Yovanovich be present to answer questions regarding liability concerns, how it affects the concession agreement, etc. D. Lely Contract: Mr. Gil Mueller asked Murdo if he was able to obtain a copy of the Agreement between Lely Corporation and the County as it relates to Barefoot Beach. Mr. Murdo Smith commented we don't have it in our Department, but he has contacted Compliance Services and Project Review and it will be obtained up there. VI. Adjournment: Mr. Gil Mueller motioned to adjourn the meeting. Ms. Geneva Till seconded, and the motion passed unanimously with a 4-0 vote. PARAB adjourned at 4:08 p.m. rtd:003165 MINUTES (long version) PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD Golden Gate Community Park, Administrative Office February 27, 1990 PRESENT: Mr. Kim Kobza, Chairman ABSENT: Ms. Cherryle Thomas Mr. Steven Ball, Vice Chairman (arrived at 1:42 p.m.) Mr. Gil Mueller Ms. Geneva Till I. Call to Order: The meeting was called to order at 1:30 p.m. II. Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag: III. Approval of Minutes: Ms. Geneva Till asked Murdo Smith to clarify ". . .parking during peak hours possibly would be a scheduling type of control." Mr. Murdo Smith explained that it would be a scheduling type of problem that we would have to work around. In order to make the most use of the parking, we will have to schedule the pool certain hours, the parking for the ballfields, and so forth. Mr. Gil Mueller motioned to approve the Minutes for the 01/23/91 PARAB Meeting. Ms. Geneva Till seconded, and the motion passed unanimously with a 3-0 vote. Chairman Kobza explained the new format of the PARAB Agenda to Ms. Geneva Till, Mr. Steve Ball, and Mr. Gil Mueller as follows: Before we start the presentations, any board member who wants a specific item discussed from the "Reports/Updates" list, should make that request when we get to item number IV. Much like the Consent Agenda at the County Commission, where the Commission asks for specific items to come off of the Consent Agenda. Then, we'll hold the discussion on that item, it will give us a good idea of what we need to discuss. Then, we'll go to "New Business/Presentations", and have presentations made. That will allow us to have presentations made in a timely manner, and get them on their way. On the "New Business/Presentations" list, any board member can request at the prior board meeting that at the next meeting, an item be placed for presentation for a long discussion, and board action. The intent is to be as flexible as we can be. But, at least this will give us the ability to allow us to plan our time a little bit. Then, we will go down to the "Reports/Updates" list. We will then discuss those items that a board member has requested that we specifically discuss, or that Murdo feels we need updates on. The final thing we will do is "New Business". There we can discuss any general information or questions that people might have, or items that the board should consider. The times will give us a feel for how much ground we have to cover, and how far off our times we are, and so forth. Mr. Murdo Smith passed out notes explaining the new PARAB Agenda format. All PARAB members present, were pleased with the new format. IV. REQUESTS FOR DISCUSSION - SPECIFIC UPDATE ITEMS: none V. NEW BUSINESS/PRESENTATIONS: A. Golden Gate Little League: Mr. Kingsley Fink from the Golden Gate Little League (GGLL) , was present to discuss the possibility of constructing a Little League field at the Golden Gate Community Park. Currently the Master Plan calls for a Little League field to be located behind the field control center, at the far Eastern end of this park, and an additional parking lot. It was in the budget request last year that we had reviewed, and it was deferred because of funds and so forth. The GGLL anticipated an increase the year before of 470-500 kids and presently have 670 kids. So they have had a larger increase than anticipated. Last year they had 32 teams of children from the age of 6 to 15, right now, they presently have 45 teams. They have had to increase the number of teams. In turn, this increases the number of opportunities that you have to provide a playing fields and playing times for the children. Next year they anticipate another 60-80 kids, and 50-52 teams. With the cooperation of the Parks & Recreation staff, all the fields possible have been made available. the GGLL is playing games six days a week, and on Saturday morning from 8:00 a.m. to 11:00 Saturday night. By Little League rules, we are supposed to play two games per week for each team. Because of the limited playing space, we are not able to achieve that. Mr. Fink asked PARAB for their recommendation to the County Commission that the funds be made available in next year's budget for the construction of the Little League Baseball field. If we do put the ballfield in, the parking should also go in to support the use of the ballfield. The cost would be approximately $420,000, and includes the field and the parking area. Ms. Geneva Till stressed she would be all for it, as long as the pool funding would not be affected. The GGLL is presently utilizing the school facilities for practices. At the present time, there is no school facility in the Golden Gate area that is built to standards. Presently the Golden Gate Community Park's fields are only used for games. The GGLL had its sign-ups in January, practice starts in February, and the actual season starts in March and runs through the end of May. For games, because of Little Teague rule restrictions, they only have the two fields at the GGCP to play on. The GGLL has to play within their geographical boundaries. The fields outside of this boundary are being utilized by other Little Leaguers. All baseball fields are being used to the best of their ability. PARAB suggested that the more appropriate time to discuss this issue would be in May, at their Budget Meeting, and invited Mr. Fink to return then. We would have to budget for it next year. there are not moneys presently available. There is a staff shortage because of the hiring freeze. We would need additional staff to maintain it. Right now the moneys for the other capital projects are short, because of the Conklin Point acquisition. Also fitness trail, jogging trails, and racquetball courts are already budgeted for next year. Mr. Fink agreed to come back before the board in May. Chairman Kobza directed Murdo Smith to 0 try to have our budget meeting on the fourth Wednesday on May at 1:30 p.m. Last year's Growth Management Project shows us as four fields short. Mr. Gil Mueller suggested, that by not including the lights, we may be able to put the field in sooner. No lighting would be a problem with Little League, because most activities don't start until after 5:00 p.m. , because most volunteer Coaches work until then. B. Immokalee Child Care Expansion: At the south Immokalee Park, we have a facility, the Immokalee Child Care Center, on the grounds. Mr. John Lawson, Mr. Fred Swetland a Landscape Architect, and Ms. Barbara Sweinberg were present. Mr. Mundo Smith met with them out there about a week ago. At that time they had requested an expansion of the existing building to the South, to accommodate the "Step By Step" program which is currently being run in Naples. They would like to run it out in Immokalee. The day-care center sits at the Northwest corner of our park. Mr. Lawson passed out informative material. Last year they had 250 Children in the program. Because of the growth and the number of Children, a proposal was made by "Step by Step" to establish a Step by Step center based program in Immokalee, Florida, in cooperation with the Collier County Public Schools at Immokalee Day Care in order to provide integrated services to "at risk" and developmentally delayed infants and pre-schoolers. Permission was asked for: (1) to move a fence line 10 feet from the current location. (2) to place a portable on site or expand building including hookup to electric, water, and sewer. (3) to participate in the lease of this county property. (4) to expand parking on the site to meet county code. Activities would proceed according to the Child's abilities. Their program includes children from birth to three years of age. At the age of three, the children would then have the opportunity to go on to regular public specialized programs in the public school system. This is a new project under Public Line #99457. We are one one of the first in the state to actually look at developing this type of service. We must have consistency throughout the County in the ways that we provide the services. The Head Start program does not look at this type of population, the severity, and the disability. Head Start, starts at about three years of age. Some of the children, but not a majority of them, would be able to go on to a Head Start program. Some families will share in the expense of our program, but it is not a requirement. Parking would be a problem. The church across the street is already being used for some parking. To expand it to the East would be least interruptive to the park. If the Legion Hall building is moved, it may cause no disruption. The BCC would have final approval because of the lease issue. Mr. Murdo Smith would have to go to the Real Property Department for an agreement and then from there to the BCC. This facility could also be used by the Parks & Recreation Department for an After School program, and as a multi-use facility. A site development plan will have to be done. Future expansion into the park would be a problem. Parking alongside of the road would not be allowed. Step by Step is fully licensed by the HRS & have insurance. Mr. Mu do Smith asked PARAB if they would request staff to work with "Step by Step". Mr. Gil Mueller motioned that PARAB endorse the concept as related to "Step by Step" and items one through three on the proposal list. Principally to move the fence line 10 feet from the current location; secondly permission to place a portable on site or expand the building including hookup to the electric, water, and sewer; and thirdly permission to participate in the lease of the county property. In addition staff should work with these people, and come back with an overall plan. Mr. Murdo Smith added that there are other departments that we have to go through in the county, in order to get this achieved. Mr. Steve Ball seconded, and the motion passed unanimously with a 4-0 vote. C. Immokalee Airport Park Bathroom: Sealed bids for renovations of the Immokalee Airport Park bathrooms were opened on February 6, 1991. The bid was advertised on January 14, 1991. Inquiries were sent to twenty nine (29) vendors. A tabulation sheet was attached to the Executive Simmary for PARAB's review. The Parks & Recreation Department is recommending that A.J. Cross Construction of Naples, Florida, be awarded the bid in the amount of $29,885.00. The moneys are available in the 111 fund for Immokalee. The project would be supervised through our department. the office of Capital Projects would be involved in contracts and so forth, and Compliance Services would review the work that is being done out there. The price is within the budget and it is within the amount of money that the Architect had estimated that it would come in at. Ms. Geneva Till motioned that PARAB accept this bid for $29,885 from A.J. Cross Construction for the Immokalee Airport Park bathrooms. This is a small five acre park across from the Airport in Immokalee on Route 29. We have a barbecue pit there, some picnic tables, a children's play area, and an amphitheater made out of wood that is old. These bathrooms are used everyday, and when they have the Harvest festival there they use this facility. These bathrooms are in bad need of repair. The fixtures are broken off the walls, the roofs are leaking, and we have had it scheduled to be done for a couple of years. Now we have finally got the funds to do it, and we want to pursue it. There's two bath houses out there, a men's and a ladies. We have to get them up to acceptable standards. Mr. Gil Mueller seconded, and the motion passed unanimously with a 4-0 vote. VI. REPORTS/UPDATES: A. Bonita Beach Park: That is the park on the northern boundary of Collier County. We took the Master Plan to the Board, and they asked us to come back with additional information to them, so they could make their decision on whether they wanted to proceed with the plan or not. The report is supposed to be back to they by their April meeting with Lee County. That's what's happening there at the present time at that park. Staff will return to PARAB for their review. Chairman Kobza requested to put "Bonita Beach Park" on our Presentation list in March, 1991, to have an in-depth discussion then. B. Recycling: We have gone out and purchased some trash containers and placed them at beach access sites throughout the County. Parks & Recreation will implement this program until such time that the Waste Management program gets started. At that time we will tie into their program. We are going to collect the cans, put them into appropriate containers, and then take them over to the recycling container. We are not in the process of getting it all together. C. Tigertail Vegetation: Last week, Wednesday, we got the notice to proceed from the State Department of Natural Resources to remove vegetation. That meant that we had complied with all their special permit conditions. We started the vegetation removal on Thursday morning. We are approximately two thirds of the way complete. We should have most of the southern and middle section complete by the end of this week, and next week we will be starting on the northern section. We have staked off the DER's jurisdictional area, and we have not gone beyond that. We have a architect, who went down with us and flagged off these species that we had to remove and the areas that we can to go down according to the DNR permit. We have applied for a permit from the DER to remove the vegetation that is seaward of their jurisdiction line. Mr. Gil Mueller made a few continents about the past BCC Meeting on 02/26/91. The whole process for vegetation removal took 17 months. The pipe has also been removed from the beach. Recreational Facilities will now pay back the fees owed to us. D. Inniokalee Airport Park Bathrooms: See item #V.-C. above. E. 951 Boat Ramp Parking: Mr. Murdo Smith has contacted the Purchasing Department to look into the possibility of putting a concession back at the floating barge at the Coast Guard facility. I'm supposed to meet next week with John McDermott to go through what we need to get that done. So, it's in the process. F. Pools: At the last meeting the board directed staff to ask the County Manager for some direction into the Pool issue. What the County Manager directed staff to do, was perform a survey of all the recreation facilities and so for the in Southwest Florida to see what types of pools that they have or operate, and get back to him by the end of the month. We are almost complete with that now. We'll be taking it to the County Manager hopefully within the next two weeks and then we'll bring it back to you at your next Advisory Board meeting. G. Vanderbilt Beach Accesses and Parking: Chairman Kobza asked Staff if Jennifer Pike sent a Memorandum to us that she sent to Real Property asking them to identify the beach accesses. Staff was not sure if they have received it yet. Mr. Murdo Smith updated. We were instructed by the Commissioners to go up to Vanderbilt Beach and identify and locate some beach accesses up there that are 10 feet wide. We did that in conjunction with the Transportation Department. We installed signage, and put a bicycle rack at the beach accesses. There are some concerns if they are public rights of way or not. Chairman Kobza commented that it was immediately like lighting a fuse up there, because all the property owners who were adjacent to where these rights of way were or are got to be pretty concerned about it, and people started parking on the lots on private lots, and there's no parking, and all the things that we were talking about, is exactly what happened. This came back to Chairman Kobza through the Manager's office. What he had suggested that they do, is go to Real Property and pull the dedications, the terms of the original dedications that were made to tell if they're semi-public easements where they were donated to the original residents in the area, or whether they were truly public easements and dedications, or whether they were private easements. A lot of these serve the residential area, directly to the west side of Gulf Shore, and so Jennifer Pike has done that. She's gone to Real Property, she sent a Memorandum to them, and asked them to identify each dedication and the terms of the dedication. So that we know which ones truly are public and which ones are something other than that. Without having the legal to it, you really don't know. It's just a shot in the dark as to where they are. H. Community Centers: The award of the bid was approved by the Board a couple weeks ago. The contracts have been sent to the Contractors, and they are in the process of signing them and getting them back to the County. So once they get that, the County has to sign them, and then they will be given a notice to proceed. Ms. Geneva Till asked if our department has any input as to who will be the director of the Golden Gate Community Center. Mr. Murdo Smith answered that yes, we are the one who are making the recommendation on who we hire for that position. In fact, we are making a recommendation in the next day or so. Chairman Kobza asked when the Community Centers construction will be completed. Mr. Murdo Smith replied that we are going to be pushing the fiscal year end not, because we have 6 to 7 months of construction time. We may be looking at another month before everything is settled and we proceed before the notice to proceed is actually done. We may be right at the Fiscal year end, October. The dedications will most likely be done in October or November. Chairman Kobza commented that he would really like to have those before we get to the end of the year. I. Football/Soccer Field Immokalee: That was the Football/Soccer field that we are building behind the middle school site in Inmiokalee. The site that we got from the School Board in the land swap. We had some funds available to construct a parking lot and a non-lighted Football/Soccer field. We've had our first construction meeting. The contracts have been signed. So hopefully work will be proceeding there very shortly. J. Division Responsibilities for 1991: Chairman Kobza commented that this was Mrs. Till's item, and we've never really gotten around to dividing the responsibilities, because not all five of us have been here. PARAB decided to go ahead and divide the responsibilities this meeting. What the suggestions was, is that we each take responsibility for maybe one or two facilities. Maybe a County park and a beach, or something along those lines. To make sure we stop in once or twice a month, to check on the maintenance, identify any issues. Then come back and report to the board on the needs of that facility or that beach. It will also educate the board, so they know what's going on better. Mr. Steve Ball suggested to do this within the person's own district. It was suggested that Mr. Steve Ball, since he is the representative for the City, take responsibility for the East Naples area. The East Naples Community Park is probably the second most used park in the area, especially on weekends. Four copies of the newly updated Parks Brochure was passed out to each PARAB member. The old Parks Brochure was approximately 4 to 5 years old. Ms. Geneva Till requested a "Parks & Recreation" pin that each member could wear when visiting these areas. To identify themselves to the public. PARAB requested from staff, a list of the parks that they have in each district. Mr. Murdo Smith will go ahead and break up the parks in everybody's district, and he will send a letter out to each member showing what parks are in each person's district. . K. Listing of Donated Properties: Mr. Murdo Smith has talked to Real Property several times. Their concern right now, is that this is going to take some time to do. Currently, they don't have the staff to perform that work. However, they have checked with Planning Review to check to see if there is any outstanding P.U.D. 's that they know of, and they are researching their files and so forth now. L. Frank E. Mackie Jr. Building Expansion: All the contracts and so forth will be signed today, or relatively soon. I heard from Wilson Miller today that our County Attorney and Purchasing Agent are signing the contracts this afternoon. Hopefully we will be able to give them a notice to proceed tomorrow. Some of the work should be done down there within the next two weeks giving them time to gear up. M. Conklin Point: Boat Ramp. Request for Proposals were turned in to the County last Friday. We have a review team, it will be getting together shortly to review the proposals and make a recommendation of the top three firms. It will go before the Board of County Commissioners for their award to one of the firms. We may have to, in a timely fashion, get a special meeting of the PARAB together to go over our three recommendations. The review team consists of Mr. Murdo Smith, Tom Donnegan of Capital Projects, Harry Huber of Capital Projects, Hayward Boyce of Conipliance Services, the Acting Public Services Administrator Martha Skinner, the Purchasing Department will have a representative, and someone from Risk Management will also be there. There was about 12 companies that submitted proposals to the Purchasing Department. This is both Engineering and Architectural. Yes. The whole package. The Master Plan has been done, so now we are going to the Civil Engineering, Landscaping, Architectural, design of the boat ramps, permitting, and so forth. After this is done, the money is in the account to move ahead with construction. The Design cycle will take about 3 months to design, and another 3 to permit it. There might be some state permits involved. There is a rezoning involved. Those two alone could take 6 months to a year, depending upon how that process goes. You do the Master Plan, and start preliminary site developments, and start the 4 rezoning, start the state permitting process. All that could be started right now. Once the rezoning is done, then the final site development plan can be designed. Doing the rezoning is about 4 to 6 months, and the final site development plan is about another 2 months and then getting a contract secured is a couple months. You are then looking at a total of probably nine (9) months. Rezoning will be part of the design. Whoever is responsible for the design will be doing the rezoning. N. Tigertail Food Concessionaire: The Purchasing Department and our County Attorneys and so forth have reviewed the contract. It has been signed by Mr. Herbst, and by the County Attorney's office. So that will be going to the BCC in the near future for their approval. The Purchasing Department is taking it through the BCC. So, whenever they can get it before the Board, hopefully they can start up relatively soon. VII. NEW BUSINESS A. Lely Barefoot Task Force Meeting Chairman Kobza reported to the board that the County Commissioners were meeting regarding the issue of whether to charge $1.00 at Lely Barefoot Beach. Mr. Gil Mueller was at the meeting. He commented to the Commission, that PARAB has already reviewed this issue, and you ought to have some recommendation from us on this issue. So they drafted Chairman Kobza to sit on this task force. So, we have had a meeting of the task force. The Task Force involves County Commissioner Mike Volpe, John Agnali who is the President of Lely, Margerie Ward who is representing residents of Bonita Springs, the Manager from the Lely Beach Condo Complex, a person representing the residents of Lely Barefoot Beach, and Jennifer Pike the Assistant to the County Manager. Those were the official members. John Agnali has come to the County with a proposal for the County to charge $1.00 a head at the gate, and actually by paying his guard the dollar, and then we would have full-time supervision at the entrance to the County portion of the facility. What Chairman Kobza related was PARAB's discussion and recommendation on Lely Barefoot Beach. After a lot of discussion I think we finally ended up recommending the $1.00 charge. But, I think that we also had a lot of discussion about the start-up phase of the park. There is a time period that you are really not generating enough revenue to really cover the person at the gate. Also, we discussed as much as a $2.00 charge some of the parks. I decided that the philosophy behind us not making that recommendation, basically we were dealing with certain public constraints. Our motive was to provide only that revenue necessary to cover the cost, but at least provide that revenue. So, Chairman Kobza made a recommendation to that Task Force. The problem up there is supervision. The real issue is not as much the Gate Keeper. We have a Park Ranger program, and they are all over the place. We don't have enough resources to cover that Park Ranger at that facility. So, my first question to Mr. Agnali was would he contribute to the cost of a Park Ranger. He said said yes, qualified upon us charging $1.00. The problem with that is that you're handing a dollar to a non-public employee. That is a very philosophical and emotional issue with a lot of citizens up there. That's where it all sits right now. Basically the Task Force worked along the lines of that suggestion. We are going to try to get Agnali to make a contribution towards the cost of an Employee up there. Then, I think they are going to explore the economics of Charging the $1.00 versus not. Then we are going to have another Task Force meeting. Mr. Murdo Smith explained that the direction that he had received from the County Manager's office after our meeting on Friday, was to go about it a little bit different than the Park Ranger approach. What was suggested was the same type of situation that we have at Tigertail. To have some type of booth with a person or Park-time Employees in the booth. We are going to put together a report for the County Manger using those people. That would be down at our entrance. They would be in constant communication by radio or telephone with the Guard House in front, where when people were coming in and out, we could keep track of the people in there and so forth. If the dollar charge was to be levied, that is where it would be collected. Then again, the Park Rangers would make periodical visits to that site. Mr. Gil Mueller suggested to get the Sheriff's Department to patrol the area more often each day. Chairman Kobza expressed his concerns for the Park Ranger program. He doesn't think that we get as much off road time versus road time. To him, it doesn't seem very efficient. That because of the number, either we don't have enough or something. Mr. Murdo Smith explained the way we schedule Park Rangers. Mr. Gil Mueller suggested that we employ at least one (1) additional ranger. Mr. Murdo Smith commented that this is a good time that PARAB brought this up, because of the budget time coming up. B. Workshop to Establish PARAB Goals the Conning Year Chairman Kobza requested that PARAB take a couple of hours on a workshop without a formal Agenda to discuss some things we want to get accomplished. Some topics to be discussed, could include: (1) Goals for the coming year; (2) Level of Service standards; (3) New budget Year. PARAB agreed to schedule a two (2) hour workshop, where they are not encumbered by an Agenda, for a Wednesday afternoon at 1:30 p.m. about the middle of March. C. Clam Pass Park Chairman Kobza had Mr. Charles Popper, who is the head of the Registry Hotel and the Attorney for the unit owners who is Joe Mc Mackin contact me preliminary about an issue as it relates to Clam Pass Park. The issue is, they are going to propose to our board first, and then the County board, that as the third pod is built. That they be allowed to possibly be allow to serve alcohol to limited events like their conventions. One of the problems that they have, apparently in their convention business, is they lose conventions because they can't have beach events. Like the Ritz down the street, where they can serve alcohol in a limited area. He told them to call Murdo Smith, to make their own request that they put it on one or our Agendas. Chairman Kobza's comment to them, was that they needed to be very well prepared when they came in. Because, there will be a lot of questions regarding the transportation issues at Clam Pass, liability, presidential issue A to Z. So the ball is in their court. Chairman Kobza requested that when they do come in like that, he would like to have the Concession Agreement, and it may be that we should have a request for legal services like Joe Yovanovich here where he can answer questions regarding liability concerns, how it affects the concession agreement, etc. Chairman Kobza said that he can think of a number of questions that he is going to have. D. Lely Contract: Mr. Gil Mueller asked Murdo if he was able to dig up a copy of the agreement between the Lely Corporation and the County as it relates to the Barefoot Beach. Mr. Murdo Smith commented that we don't have it in our Deft. He has contacted Compliance Services and Project Review and he has to go down there. There is several of them that he has to go through to see which one it was. Chairman Kobza would be interested in reading. VI. Adjournment: Mr. Gil Mueller motioned to adjourn the meeting. Ms. Geneva Till seconded, and the motion passed unanimously with a 4-0 vote. PARAB adjourned at 4:08 p.m. rtd:003165