CEB Minutes 06/30/2015 June 30, 2015
TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE
CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD
Naples, Florida
June 30, 2015
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Code
Enforcement Board, in and for the County of Collier, having
conducted business herein, met on this date at 9:00 a.m. in REGULAR
SESSION in Building "F" of the Government Complex, East Naples,
Florida, with the following members present:
CHAIRMAN: Robert Kaufman
Robert Ashton
Ron Doino
James Lavinski
Gerald Lefebvre
Lionel L'Esperance
Tony Marino
Lisa Chapman Bushnell (Alternate)
Sue Curley (Alternate)
ALSO PRESENT:
Tamara Lynn Nicola, Attorney for the CEB
Kerry Adams, Code Enforcement Specialist
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CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD OF COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA
AGENDA
Date: June 30,2015 at 9:00 A.M.
Location: 3299 Tamiami Trail East,Naples, FL 34104
NOTICE: THE RESPONDENT MAY BE LIMITED TO TWENTY (20) MINUTES FOR CASE
PRESENTATION UNLESS ADDITIONAL TIME IS GRANTED BY THE BOARD. PERSONS
WISHING TO SPEAK ON ANY AGENDA ITEM WILL RECEIVE UP TO FIVE (5) MINUTES
UNLESS THE TIME IS ADJUSTED BY THE CHAIRMAN.
ALL PARTIES PARTICIPATING IN THE PUBLIC HEARING ARE ASKED TO OBSERVE
ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER AND SPEAK ONE AT A TIME SO THAT THE COURT
REPORTER CAN RECORD ALL STATEMENTS BEING MADE.
ANY PERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL A DECISION OF THIS BOARD WILL NEED A
RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS PERTAINING THERETO, AND THEREFORE MAY NEED
TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE,WHICH
RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO
BE BASED. NEITHER COLLIER COUNTY NOR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD SHALL
BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING THIS RECORD.
1. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
2. ROLL CALL
Robert Kaufman,Chair Ron Doino
Gerald Lefebvre,Vice Chair James Lavinski
Lionel L' Esperance Robert Ashton
Tony Marino Lisa Chapman Bushnell,Alternate
Sue Curley,Alternate
3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. MAY 28,2015 Hearing
5. PUBLIC HEARINGS/MOTIONS
A. Motions
Motion for Continuance
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Motion for Extension of Time
1. CASE NO: CESD20150002007
OWNER: CRAIG DANIELS&MARTHA DANIELS
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR STEVEN LOPEZ-SILVERO
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED, SECTION 10.02.06
(B)(1)(A). SINGLE-WIDE MOBILE HOME STAGED ON UNIMPROVED RESIDENTIAL
PROPERTY WITHOUT FIRST OBTAINING THE REQUIRED PERMIT(S),INSPECTIONS AND
CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
FOLIO NO: 01132880003
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 223 GLADYS CT,COPELAND
2. CASE NO: CESD20150001847
OWNER: YASIEL RODRIGUEZ
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR ERIC SHORT
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED, SECTION 10.02.06
(B)(1)(A).UNPERMITTED ALTERATIONS TO SUPPORT MARIJUANA GROW OPERATION
FOLIO NO: 37345920009
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 1120 27111 ST SW,NAPLES
B. Stipulations
B. Hearings
1. CASE NO: CESD20150004720
OWNER: RICARDO DE JESUS&KATHLEEN DE JESUS
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR STEVEN LOPEZ-SILVERO
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED, SECTION 10.02.06
(B)(1)(A).AN UNPERMITTED SINGLE-WIDE MOBILE HOME ON IMPROVED OCCUPIED
RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY WITHOUT FIRST OBTAINING THE REQUIRED PERMIT(S),
INSPECTIONS,AND CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
FOLIO NO: 01132520004
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 222 SWAIN ST,COPELAND
2. CASE NO: CEPM20140025426
OWNER: LYNNE V CADENHEAD
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR CHRISTOPHER AMBACH
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY CODE OF LAWS AND ORDINANCES,CHAPTER 22 BUILDINGS AND
BUILDING REGULATIONS,ARTICLE VI PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE, SECTION 22-
231(12)(Q)AND SECTION 22-236.A VACANT RESIDENTIAL HOME DECLARED
DANGEROUS BY THE COLLIER COUNTY BUILDING OFFICIAL.
FOLIO NO: 74414040006
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 3414 CHEROKEE ST,NAPLES
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3. CASE NO: CEN20150002834
OWNER: HERITAGE SQUARE REAL EST LLC,
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR PATRICK BALDWIN
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY CODE OF LAWS AND ORDINANCE CHAPTER 2,ARTICLE IX
COMMERCIAL AMPLIFIED MUSIC IN RESIDENTIAL USE OR ZONING. COLLIER COUNTY
CODE OF LAWS CHAPTER 54 ENVIROMENT,ARTICLE IV NOISE, SECTION 54-92-(F)(2)AND
(B)MAXIMUM PERMISSIBLE SOUND AND VIBRATION LEVELS BY ZONING
CLASSIFICATION OR USE OCCUPANCY. (1)NO SOUND SHALL VIOLATE ANY SOUND
STANDARD PROVISION OF THIS ARTICLE(TABLET).BEACH TAVERN SOUND LEVELS
EXCEEDING THE ALLOWABLE DECIBEL LIMIT FOR THE TIME PERIOD READINGS WERE
PERFORMED.
FOLIO NO: 152480002
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 13514 TAMIAMI TRL N,NAPLES
4. CASE NO: CEVR20140018858
OWNER: MICHAEL T JOHNSON&LORI R JOHNSON
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR MICHAELLE CROWLEY
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED, SECTION 3.05.01(B);
AND COLLIER COUNTY CODE OF LAWS AND ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 22,ARTICLE IV,
SECTION 22-108. REMOVAL OF NATIVE AND NON-NATIVE VEGETATION BY HEAVY
MACHINERY WITHOUT REQUIRED COUNTY PERMIT;PLACEMENT OF LIME-ROCK FILL
AND MULCH/CHIPPED MATERIAL ON CLEARED SITE WITHOUT REQUIRED COUNTY
PERMIT OR AUTHORIZATION,EXCAVATION OF EXISTING GROUND MATERIAL TO A
DEPTH GREATER THAN 3 FEET OVER A LARGE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY,THEN
REPLACEMENT OF THE REMOVED MATERIAL WITH FILL BROUGHT IN FROM OUTSIDE
WITHOUT REQUIRED COUNTY PERMIT.
FOLIO NO: 00341440002
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 2220 CRAWFORD AVE,NAPLES
5. CASE NO: CESD20150007843
OWNER: CHANDLER AYOTTE
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR ERIC SHORT
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED, SECTIONS
10.02.06(B)(1)(A)AND 10.02.06(B)(1)(E)(I).AN UNPERMITTED SHED ON THE REAR OF THE
PROPERTY.
FOLIO NO: 38906000008
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 4330 64TH AVE NE,NAPLES
6. CASE NO: CESD20140017065
OWNER: DAVIS CROSSING VIII,LLC
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR ARTHUR FORD
VIOLATIONS: BUILDING AND LAND ALTERATION PERMITS. COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT
CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED, SECTION 10.02.06(B)(1)(A).PERMIT 2009120450 EXPIRED
WITHOUT INSPECTIONS AND CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION/OCCUPANCY.
FOLIO NO: 34690080008
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 8770 DAVIS BLVD,NAPLES
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7. CASE NO: CESD20150007433
OWNER: RICK LYNN WHITE&VICTORIA JACOB
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR JOSEPH GIANNONE
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED, SECTIONS 10.02.06
(B)(1)(A)AND 10.02.06(B)(1)(E).ABOVE GROUND POOL WITH A WOODEN DECK
INSTALLED WIHOUT THE PROPER COLLIER COUNTY PERMITS AND INSPECTIONS.
FOLIO NO: 36517680000
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 2972 41ST ST SW,NAPLES
8. CASE NO: CELU20150004809
OWNER: THE CLUB AT LA PENINSULA INC
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR MICHAEL ODOM
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED, SECTION 2.02.03.
OUTSIDE STORAGE OF CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS(ROCKS).
FOLIO NO: 1050000004
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 802 LA PENINSULA BLVD,NAPLES
9. CASE NO: CESD20140018880
OWNER: MARK D HUNTLEY&JUDITH V HUNTLEY
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR TONY ASARO
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED, SECTION 10.02.06
(B)(1)(A).UNPERMITTED ALTERATIONS TO THE MAIN STRUCTURE.
FOLIO NO: 40070080007
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 4290 31ST AVE NE,NAPLES
10. CASE NO: CESD20150003265
OWNER: WILLIAM T.CABAL
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR VIRGINIE GIGUERE
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED, SECTION
10.02.06(B)(1)(A).UNPERMITTED STRUCTURES AND EXTERIOR LIGHTING IN THE REAR
YARD.
FOLIO NO: 38166040002
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 5941 COPPER LEAF LN,NAPLES
11. CASE NO: CESD20150002839
OWNER: KENNETH M&JANET M SECHRIST&MARJORIE A CUNNINGHAM TR M.A.
CUNNINGHAM REV TRUST,
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR STEVEN LOPEZ-SILVERO
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED, SECTION
10.02.06(B)(1)(A).AN ENCLOSED LIVING SPACE ADDED TO AN EXISTING SINGLE-WIDE
MOBILE HOME WITHOUT FIRST OBTAINING THE REQUIRED PERMIT(S),INSPECTIONS,
AND CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
FOLIO NO: 30055001422
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 414 PAPAYA ST UNIT C,GOODLAND
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12. CASE NO: CESD20150002056
OWNER: REG8 BERKSHIRE COMMONS LLC
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR VIRGINIE GIGUERE
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE,ORDINANCE 04-41,AS AMENDED,
SECTION 10.02.06(B)(1)(E).UNPERMITTED INTERIOR RENOVATION CONSISTING OF BUT
NOT LIMITED TO:EXPOSED STRUCTURAL STUDS,ELECTRIC AND PLUMBING
ADJACENT TO THE FIREWALL BETWEEN THE NAIL SPA AND SUBWAY RESTAURANT.
FOLIO NO: 23945007103
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 7063 RADIO RD,NAPLES
13. CASE NO: CEROW20150001263
OWNER: 5681 DOGWOOD LLC
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR COLLEEN DAVIDSON
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE,ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 110 ROAD&
BRIDGES,ARTICLE II. CONSTRUCTION IN PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS,DIVISION 1
GENERALLY SECTION 110-30. CULVERT PIPE HAS FAILED AND IS RUSTED THROUGH.
FOLIO NO: 38341320000
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 6 81 DOGWOOD WAY,NAPLES
14. CASE NO: CESD20140009331
OWNER: SOUTH NAPLES CENTER LLC
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR RALPH BOSA
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED, SECTION 10.02.06
(B)(1)(A). IMPROVEMENTS WITHOUT FIRST OBTAINING REQUIRED COLLIER COUNTY
BUILDING PERMITS.
FOLIO NO: 726440009
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 13255 TAMIAMI TRAIL E,NAPLES
C. Motion for Reduction of Fines/Lien.
6. OLD BUSINESS
A. Motion for Imposition of Fines/Liens
1. CASE NO: CELU20150004921
OWNER: ROSELENE ELOI
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR JAMES KINCAID
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED, SECTIONS 2.02.03
AND 4.05.03(A).AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR ACTIVITY AND VEHICLES PARKED ON THE
GRASS OF IMPROVED RESIDENTIAL ZONED PROPERTY.
FOLIO NO: 62205600007
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 5361 HOLLAND ST,NAPLES
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2. CASE NO: CESD20130008321
OWNER: ANTONIO LOUISSAINT
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR MARIA RODRIGUEZ
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED, SECTION
10.02.06(B)(1)(A).AN UNPERMITTED ADDITION BEING USED AS LIVING SPACE WITH A
THREE FIXTURE BATHROOM TO INCLUDE ELECTRIC AND PLUMBING.ALSO INSTALLED
NEW WINDOWS AND DOORS ALL CONSTRUCTED WITHOUT FIRST OBTAINING THE
AUTHORIZATION OF THE REQUIRED PERMIT(S), INSPECTION(S)AND CERTIFICATE(S)OF
OCCUPANCY AS REQUIRED BY THE COLLIER COUNTY BUILDING CODE.
FOLIO NO: 00134120005
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 610 S 5TH ST,IMMOKALEE
3. CASE NO: CES20150000879
OWNER: TOTAM LLC
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR COLLEEN DAVIDSON
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED, SECTION
5.06.04(F)(4)(E). WINDOW SIGNAGE EXCEEDS 25%.
FOLIO NO: 56200000087
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 12355 COLLIER BLVD UNIT D,NAPLES
4. CASE NO: CESD20140020715
OWNER: MIRIAM R JEWELL
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR JONATHAN MUSSE
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED, SECTION 10.02.06
(B)(1)(A)AND 10.02.06(B)(1)(E)(I). CONVERTED THE GARAGE INTO A THEATER ROOM
WITHOUT FIRST OBTAINING VALID COLLIER COUNTY PERMITS.
FOLIO NO: 80640001528
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 6596 GLEN ARBOR WAY,NAPLES
5. CASE NO: CESD20140000248
OWNER: CHRISTOPHER S.ESENBERG
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR SHIRLEY GARCIA
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED, SECTION
10.02.06(B)(1)(A). EXPIRED PERMIT FOR A POOL AND PERMIT FOR A POOL ENCLOSURE
WITH NO CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY/COMPLETION.
FOLIO NO: 47871360000
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 3301 GUILFORD RD,NAPLES,FL
6. CASE NO: CESD20130001292
OWNER: CHRISTOPHER S.ESENBERG
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR SHIRLEY GARCIA
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED, SECTION
10.02.06(B)(1)(A).ADDITION/ALTERATIONS MADE TO STRUCTURE WITHOUT FIRST
OBTAINING A COLLIER COUNTY BUILDING PERMIT.
FOLIO NO: 47871280009
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 3315 GUILFORD RD,NAPLES
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7. CASE NO: CESD20120000572
OWNER: JUAN CAMPBELL&NORA CARRILLO
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR WELDON WALKER
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED, SECTION
10.02.06(B)(1)(A). BUILDING PERMIT EXPIRED WITHOUT THE COMPLETION OF ALL
RELATED INSPECTIONS AND ISSUANCE OF A CERTIFICATE OF
COMPLETION/OCCUPANCY.
FOLIO NO: 63912040001
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 1101 N 11TH ST,IMMOKALEE
8. CASE NO: CESD20150002007
OWNER: CRAIG DANIELS&MARTHA DANIELS
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR STEVEN LOPEZ-SILVERO
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED, SECTION 10.02.06
(B)(1)(A). SINGLE-WIDE MOBILE HOME STAGED ON UNIMPROVED RESIDENTIAL
PROPERTY WITHOUT FIRST OBTAINING THE REQUIRED PERMIT(S),INSPECTIONS AND
CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
FOLIO NO: 01132880003
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 223 GLADYS CT,COPELAND
9. CASE NO: CESD20150001847
OWNER: YASIEL RODRIGUEZ
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR ERIC SHORT
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED, SECTION 10.02.06
(B)(1)(A).UNPERMITTED ALTERATIONS TO SUPPORT MARIJUANA GROW OPERATION
FOLIO NO: 37345920009
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 1120 27TH ST SW,NAPLES
B. Motion to Rescind Previously Issued Order
C. Motion to Amend Previously Issued Order
7. NEW BUSINESS
8. CONSENT AGENDA
A. Request to Forward Cases to County Attorney's Office as Referenced in Submitted Executive Summary.
9. REPORTS
10. COMMENTS
11. NEXT MEETING DATE- July 23,2015
12. ADJOURN
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I'd like to call the Code Enforcement
Board to order. If anybody has a cell phone and it's on, it's better that
it's off. Put it to vibrate.
We'll all stand for the pledge.
(Pledge of Allegiance was recited in unison.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And now for the disclaimer of the
day.
Notice: The respondent may be limited to 20 minutes for case
presentation unless additional time is granted by the Board.
Persons wishing to speak on any agenda item will receive up to
five minutes unless the time is adjusted by the Chairman.
All parties participating in the public hearing are asked to observe
Roberts Rules of Order and speak one at a time so that the court
reporter can record all statements being made.
Any person who decides to appeal a decision of this board will
need a record of the proceedings pertaining thereto and therefore may
need to ensure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made,
which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the
appeal is to be based.
Neither Collier County nor the Code Enforcement Board shall be
responsible for providing this record.
Why don't we start out with the roll call.
MS. ADAMS: Mr. Robert Kaufman?
MR. KAUFMAN: Here.
MS. ADAMS: Mr. Gerald Lefebvre?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Here.
MS. ADAMS: Mr. Lionel L'Esperance?
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Here.
MS. ADAMS: Mr. Tony Marino?
MR. MARINO: Here.
MS. ADAMS: Mr. Ron Doino?
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MR. DOINO: Here.
MS. ADAMS: Mr. James Lavinski?
MR. LAVINSKI: Here.
MS. ADAMS: Mr. Robert Ashton?
MR. ASHTON: Here.
MS. ADAMS: Ms. Lisa Chapman Buschnell?
MR. BUSCH: Here.
MS. ADAMS: Ms. Sue Curley?
MS. CURLEY: Here.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We're all here.
Okay, anybody have any changes to the minutes?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: If not, I'll accept a motion to approve
the minutes.
MR. LAVINSKI: Motion to approve.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: All those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
Which brings us to the agenda. Do we have any changes?
MS. ADAMS: We do. Number Five, Public Hearings/Motions,
A, Motion For Continuance, we have one addition. It's Number Nine
from hearings, Tab 9, Case CESD20140018880, Mark D. Huntley and
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Judith V. Huntley.
Motion for Extension of Time, Number Two, Case
CESD20150001847, that's Tab 23, has been withdrawn.
Letter B, Stipulations, we have four additions.
The first is Number Fourteen from hearings, Tab 14, Case
CESD20140009331, South Naples Center, LLC.
The second is Number Eleven from hearings, Tab 11, Case
CESD20150002839, Kenneth M. and Janet M. Sechrist and Marjorie
A. Cunningham, Trustee.
The third is Number Ten from hearings, Tab 10, Case
CESD20150003265, William T. Cabal.
The fourth is Number Thirteen from hearings, Tab 13, Case
CEROW20150001263, 5681 Dogwood, LLC.
Letter B, Hearings. Number One, Tab 1, Case
CESD20150004720, Ricardo De Jesus and Kathleen De Jesus has
been withdrawn.
Number Five, Tab 5, Case CESD20150007843, Chandler Ayotte
has been withdrawn.
Number Eight, Tab 8, Case CELU20150004809, The Club at La
Peninsula, Incorporated, has been withdrawn.
We have one emergency case added to the agenda. It will be
Case CEPM20150011894, Talia Chavez-O'Bourke.
And that's all the changes.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Make a motion to approve the agenda with
changes.
MR. DOINO: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second to
approve the agenda as modified. All those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
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MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
MS. ADAMS: The first case will be Motion For Continuance,
Number Nine from hearings, Tab 9, Case CESD2014001880, Mark D.
Huntley and Judith V. Huntley.
(Investigator Asaro was duly sworn.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good morning.
INVESTIGATOR ASARO: Good morning.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I see you're here alone today.
INVESTIGATOR ASARO: Yes, I am.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a letter on this requesting --
INVESTIGATOR ASARO: Yes, we do.
MR. LEFEBVRE: It's an email in today's package.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah.
Okay, this one, what bothers me most about it is the date, March
18th, 2014, when the violation began.
But how does the county feel as far as an extension is concerned?
INVESTIGATOR ASARO: I don't have any issues granting an
extension. I know they purchased this home with these issues and they
were trying to rectify the problem.
Last conversation I had with Ms. Huntley, she was contacting her
contractor and working through the issues.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
INVESTIGATOR ASARO: I'll leave it up to the board's
discretion whether you would like to grant the continuance or proceed
with the case.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Any comments from the Board?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: When did the -- when did they buy
this property; do you know?
INVESTIGATOR ASARO: Let me see here.
MS. CURLEY: July.
MR. LEFEBVRE: July 14th, last year.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: A year ago.
INVESTIGATOR ASARO: A year ago.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. And they were cited -- the
property was cited in March of 2014.
INVESTIGATOR ASARO: Correct.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Any comments from the
board?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I see that she's asking for two weeks,
which we don't do because we meet once a month.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I make a motion that we continue it 'til next
hearing. It sounds like they corrected a lot of the issues, they paid cash
for the house, so obviously they're acting in good faith, so I think we
should give them another 30 days or until next meeting.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Is that a motion?
MR. LEFEBVRE: That's a motion.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Do we have a second?
MR. MARINO: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a second, Tony.
Any discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: All those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
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MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously. Thanks, Tony.
INVESTIGATOR ASARO: Thank you.
MS. NICOLA: Can I get a point of clarification on that? Is it 30
days or until the next hearing? Because the next hearing --
MR. LEFEBVRE: Next hearing.
MS. NICOLA: Next hearing? Thank you.
MS. ADAMS: The next case, Motion For Extension of Time,
Number One, Tab 22, Case CESD20150002007, Craig Daniels and
Martha Daniels.
(Martha Daniels and Investigator Lopez-Silvero were duly
sworn.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good morning.
INVESTIGATOR LOPEZ-SILVERO: Good morning.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I see you're requesting an extension
on the imposition of fines, the case that's before us?
MS. DANIELS: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You want to give us a little brief--
MS. DANIELS: Sure. We purchased this and didn't know we
were going to run into all this. And so we're diligently working on it
since the last meeting. As June 3rd, I had request in writing to the
Code Enforcement Board for an extension of time because I had ran
into all these overlaps.
On June 8th, I explained to him my goal was to be in compliance
before this meeting, but as you see it hasn't happened. But I am
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diligently working on it.
And so on June 9th I had the mobile home contractor submit all
the documents for permitting. Everything was submitted. It was
reviewed by the GMD. And then the GMD had said they had went
through the whole review except they had to not approve it, stating that
I needed an ST permit and an ROW. So I --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I know ROW, but help me with
some of the alphabets. ST.
MS. DANIELS: I'm just trying to hurry so I don't take up your
time.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: No, take your time.
MS. DANIELS: Okay. So the ROW is right-of-way --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Right.
MS. DANIELS: -- for a driveway that I really don't want, but --
and then the DMD is -- or I mean the growth management that reviews
all the permitting and everything.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And the ST?
MS. DANIELS: And the ST is a special treatment permit, an
environmental issue. And the environmental review of, you know,
how you have all the different departments.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MS. DANIELS: So from my understanding, all the departments
in growth management, after their review, everything was okay except
stating that I need to pull an ROW permit, which is a right-of-way to
build a driveway. And I submitted that as soon as I was told.
The following day I went straight to the department, I paid the
$200, I filled out the application. I've not heard nothing back on that.
That was on June 15th.
But backing up to the other, on June 18th is when the review
board actually came back in writing, stated they reviewed all
documents but they could not issue a permit because of the fact that
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environmental review stated that I needed to pull a special treatment
permit and pay $400 nonrefundable.
Well, at this time I wanted to fight a little more because it was
more money. And because knowing and living down there and being a
native of the area, I didn't want to argue and -- with the county, but I
knew this was getting a little too much.
So playing phone tag and going back and forth with them as of
yesterday, the environmental review agreed with me that it was a
mistake, that I did not need to pull that permit. But I did need to write
a letter to them.
So as of yesterday I did do as they requested and I sent the letter
to Mr. David Anthony, which is in the environmental review, which is
who I'm working with. And he had told me to do this letter. I don't
know what good the letter's doing, but I did it. Ifs in reference to the
above job description, after our conversation via telephone on June
29th, '15 it is my understanding that building permit number such and
such serves as our petition on the special treatment permit in the above
property located at 223 Gladys Court is exempt for an SD permit.
Thank you for your prompt attention to this job. I can be reached at
the above, and it was a pleasure working with you. So I just --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Let me help you out. In other words,
you're working on this thing --
MS. DANIELS: Yes, diligently.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- diligently.
Do you have any idea when you think you'll be in --
MS. DANIELS: When the county gives me permits I can have it
done and call for a CO in two days. But I'm requesting -- because as
you can see how it goes back and forth, I'm requesting 90 days so I
don't have to come back and ask for another extension. I'm sure that's
more than what I need, but this is out of my hands. I can't do it as
owner/builder. I've had to hire a contractor to do it, which I have.
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I am waiting -- the contractor and I both are waiting on the county
to give us permits. I talked to the contractor yesterday to give me a
kind of a time table to report to you today. She says well, if I can get a
permit this week I can have it done in two days and call for a CO. She
said now next week or the following week's a different story because I
have other jobs. She says I can't tell you for sure but normally on the
average if her calendar is open, she told me that once they get permit in
hand they could bring down a crew and do it in two days and call for
CO.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, let me just stop you a second.
Does the county have any objection to granting an extension on
this case?
INVESTIGATOR LOPEZ-SILVERO: No objection, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And the respondent has been
working diligently to get everything done?
INVESTIGATOR LOPEZ-SILVERO: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Anybody from the board like to
make a motion?
MR. ASHTON: I make a motion we give her -- you wanted 90
days?
MS. DANIELS: I'm requesting 90, hoping it doesn't take that.
My goal was to have it done before this meeting.
MR. ASHTON: Make a motion we extend it for 90 days.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Can we make that to the meeting in
September that's around 90 days?
MR. ASHTON: Okay.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: I'll second that motion.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, we have a motion and a
second. Any discussion on the motion?
MR. LAVINSKI: Is this unit occupied?
INVESTIGATOR LOPEZ-SILVERO: It's vacant.
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MR. LAVINSKI: It's vacant? Okay. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Any other comments from the
board?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: All those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
Hope we don't see you in September, which is the name of a
song, See You in September.
MS. ADAMS: First stipulation is Number Fourteen from
hearings, Tab 14, Case CESD20140009331, South Naples Center,
LLC.
(Investigator Ralph Bosa was duly sworn.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good morning, Ralph.
INVESTIGATOR BOSA: Good morning. For the record, Ralph
Bosa, Collier County Code Enforcement.
I'm just going to read the stipulation agreement.
Therefore it is agreed between the parties that the respondent
shall: Pay operational costs in the amount of$67.11 incurred in the
prosecution of this case within 30 days of this hearing. Abate all
violations by: Obtaining all required Collier County building permits
or demolition permit, inspections or certificate of
completion/occupancy within 90 days of this hearing or a fine of$200
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per day will be imposed until the violation is abated.
Respondent must notify code enforcement within 24 hours of
abatement of the violation and request the investigator perform a site
inspection to confirm compliance. That if the respondent fails to abate
the violation, the county may abate the violation, using any method to
bring the violation into compliance and may use the assistance of the
Collier County Sheriffs Office to enforce the provisions of this
agreement, and all costs of abatement shall be assessed to the property
owner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, this case goes back to October
of 2014, so it's quite a long time ago. They've been working on this
and you feel that they'll be able to meet this in 90 days?
INVESTIGATOR BOSA: Yes, sir. They had a laundry list of
things they had to do, pull permits and stuff. This is one -- the last
thing on their list. It's taken a little longer than usual.
They did hire -- I spoke with the managing member yesterday.
He said they've hired an engineer to put in some plans to get the
permits and everything permitted.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Any motion from the board?
MR. LAVINSKI: Motion to accept the stipulation as written.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion.
MR. DOINO: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And a second to accept the
stipulation as written.
Any discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: All those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
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MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
Thanks, Ralph.
MS. ADAMS: The next stipulation is Number Eleven from
hearings, Tab 11, Case CESD20150002839, Kenneth M. and Janet M.
Sechrist and Marjorie A. Cunningham, Trustee.
(Investigator Lopez-Silvero was duly sworn.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good morning, Steven. You look
very familiar. I think I've seen you earlier this morning.
INVESTIGATOR LOPEZ-SILVERO: Good morning.
The stipulation reads as follows -- for the record, good morning,
Steven Lopez-Silvero, Collier County Code Enforcement.
Therefore, it is agreed between the parties that the respondent
shall: Pay operational costs in the amount of$67.11 incurred in the
prosecution of this case within 30 days of this hearing.
Number two: Abate all violations by obtaining all required
Collier County building permits or demolition permit, inspections and
certificate of completion and/or occupancy within 120 days of this
hearing or a fine of$200 a day will be imposed until the violation is
abated.
Number three: Respondent must notify code enforcement within
24 hours of abatement of the violation and request the investigator
perform a site inspection to confirm compliance.
Number four: That if the respondent fails to abate the violation,
the county may abate the violation using any method to bring the
violation into compliance and may use the assistance of the Collier
County Sheriffs Office to enforce the provisions of this agreement,
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and all costs of abatement shall be assessed to the property owner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, this was a mobile home that
was a single wide and they put an addition on it; is that it?
INVESTIGATOR LOPEZ-SILVERO: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Is that space occupied?
INVESTIGATOR LOPEZ-SILVERO: No, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Any comments from the board?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Any motions from the board?
MR. LAVINSKI: Motion to accept as written.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion.
MR. ASHTON: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And a second.
Any discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: All those those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
Thanks, Steven.
MS. ADAMS: The next stipulation is Number Ten from
hearings, Tab 10, Case CESD20150003265, William T. Cabal.
(William Cabal and Investigator Giguere were duly sworn.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good morning.
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INVESTIGATOR GIGUERE: Good morning. For the record,
Vickie Giguere, Collier County Code Enforcement.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, Vickie, would you like to read
the stipulation into the record?
INVESTIGATOR GIGUERE: I would.
Therefore, it is agreed between the parties that the respondent
shall: Pay operational costs in the amount of$63.75 incurred in the
prosecution of this case within 30 days of this hearing.
Abate all violations by obtaining all required Collier County
building permits or demolition permit, inspections and certificate of
completion/occupancy within 180 days of this hearing or a fine of
$250 per day will be imposed until the violation is abated.
Respondent must notify code enforcement within 24 hours of
abatement of the violation and request the investigator perform a site
inspection to confirm compliance.
That if the respondent fails to abate the violation, the county may
abate the violation using any method to bring the violation into
compliance and may use the assistance of the Collier County Sheriffs
Office to enforce the provisions of this agreement, and all costs of
abatement shall be assessed to the property owner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, can you just give us a heads
up on why it will take six months to do this?
INVESTIGATOR GIGUERE: This stipulation was actually
entered into between my supervisor and the property owner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, I'll repeat the question. Is
there any reason why --
(Supervisor Perez was duly sworn.)
SUPERVISOR PEREZ: Good morning. For the record, Cristina
Perez, Collier County Code Enforcement Board.
In a meeting with one of our staff members, Renald Paul, and the
property owner, he expressed a hardship was his primary issue. He is
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disabled and lives on a limited income. And it is one of his children,
his daughter, I believe, who is trying to obtain a loan to be able to get
the money to be able to purchase -- pay for the plans and get the permit
for the two structures that are in the rear yard. And I'm sure Mr. Cabal
can emphasize on that if you need more.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Are the structures occupied?
SUPERVISOR PEREZ: No, they're just a -- it's an open trellis.
Is when it -- to provide shade for the -- he has a well and water system.
And the other structure, refresh my memory?
INVESTIGATOR GIGUERE: I believe it's the same.
SUPERVISOR PEREZ: Oh, it's for where you put your car.
MR. CABAL: It's like tall enough to park my truck. And it's like
a --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carport?
MR. CABAL: -- carport where I can park my equipment, the car
and everything. It's open walls. It's just a roof and --
SUPERVISOR PEREZ: The four posts.
MR. CABAL: -- posts is all it is.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You think you can get this done in
180 days or six months?
MR. CABAL: Hopefully, yes, because it's not very much left to
do. It's just to finish the floor and finish the roof That's it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Is it an expensive thing to finish?
MR. CABAL: Well, right now like she say, the problem is the
money. It's not -- I try to really want to finish it. And my daughter is
in the Army and she's trying to get a loan so I can finish it.
MR. MARINO: Mr. Chairman, I have a question.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. MARINO: His first and last name are reversed on the first
line of the stipulation. Does that mean anything? He signed it one
way. What is the name, Cabal William or William Cabal?
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MR. CABAL: William Cabal.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's how it's signed? That's what
the case reads. Okay. Good question.
Any other comments from the board?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Anybody want to make a motion?
MR. LAVINSKI: I'll make a motion to accept the stipulation as
written.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second to
accept the stip as written.
All those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
Good luck.
MR. CABAL: Thank you very much. Bye-bye.
MS. ADAMS: The next stipulation is Number Thirteen from
hearings, Tab 13, Case CEROW20150001263, 5681 Dogwood, LLC.
(Supervisor Perez was duly sworn.)
SUPERVISOR PEREZ: I met with a Mr. Gary Haines who is the
owner of 5681 Dogwood, LLC.
Therefore, it is agreed between the parties that the respondent
shall: Pay operational costs in the amount of$66.27 incurred in the
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prosecution of this case within 30 days of this hearing.
Two: Abate all violations by obtaining all required Collier
County right-of-way permits and inspection through the issuance of a
final approval to bring the right-of-way access to a permitted condition
within 120 days of this hearing or a fine of$150 per day will be
imposed until the violation is abated.
Number three: The respondent must notify code enforcement
within 24 hours of abatement of the violation and request the
investigator perform a site inspection to confirm compliance.
And number four: That if the respondent fails to abate the
violation, the county may abate the violation using any method to
bring the violation into compliance and may use the assistance of the
Collier County Sheriffs Office to enforce the provisions of this
agreement. And all costs of abatement shall be assessed to the
property owner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, is this culvert causing any
problems up or downstream from -- with the water?
SUPERVISOR PEREZ: Not as of yet. If you look at the culvert,
it is -- there is some deterioration to it. He does have a permit in apply
status, but it's still going through county review.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Any comments from the
board?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Any motions from the board?
MR. LAVINSKI: Motion to accept the stipulation as written.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion.
MR. DOINO: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And we have a second.
All those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
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MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
Thank you.
MS. ADAMS: The next case is Number Two from hearings, Tab
2, Case CEPM20140025426, Lynne V. Cadenhead.
(Bobby Cadenhead and Investigator Santafemia were duly
sworn.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good morning, John.
INVESTIGATOR SANTAFEMIA: Good morning. For the
record, John Santafemia, Collier County Code Enforcement.
This matter is in reference to code case number
CEPM20140025426, relative to the violation of Collier County Code
of Laws and Ordinances, Chapter 22, Article VI, Section
22-231(12)(Q) and Section 22-236.
Description of violations are: A vacant residential structure with
extensive roof damage declared dangerous by the Collier County
Building Official. Violation location is 3414 Cherokee Street, Naples,
Florida, 34112. Folio No. 74414040006.
Service was given on April 15th, 2015 by signed certified mail,
return receipt.
At this time I would like to present evidence in the following
exhibits: I have one copy of a dangerous building determination, along
with three photographs dated December 23rd, 2014. All the
photographs were taken by Property Maintenance Specialist Ambach
and were stored in a file which is accessible to me.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Has the respondent seen those
photographs?
INVESTIGATOR SANTAFEMIA: Not yet, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Do you have any objection to those
photographs?
MR. CADENHEAD: No, no. That's what the Building
Department has also.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, any comments from the
board?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Motion to accept the --
MR. LAVINSKI: Motion to accept.
MR. MARINO: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second to
accept the evidence presented by the county.
All those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
INVESTIGATOR SANTAFEMIA: On the screen is the
determination from the Building Department Building Official
determining that the structure has been deemed dangerous and
hazardous.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
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INVESTIGATOR SANTAFEMIA: This issue was brought to
our attention by a neighbor who was concerned about the safety of the
structure.
On January 8th, 2015 Property Maintenance Specialist Ambach
completed initial inspection and observed the dwelling in disrepair
with extensive roof damage with visible buckling of the supporting
components. A request was sent to the Collier County Building
Official for a dangerous building determination.
On January 12th, 2015 a determination supporting the findings
that the structure was dangerous was received from the Building
Official's office. A violation notice was completed and mailed
certified to the owner in addition to the property and courthouse being
posted.
Contact was made with the owner's ex-husband Bobby
Cadenhead, present, who stated he wished to make repairs to the
structure and requested additional time for permitting.
On June 12th, 2015 I completed a site visit and observed no
change in the hazardous condition and was unable to locate any
permits for repair.
The case was then prepared for the CEB hearing process.
On June 29th, 2015 a site inspection was made, which revealed
the violation remained.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Can you put the last picture up,
please.
I see the date on there is 12/23/2014. And it says the date the
violation was first observed was January 8th, 2015. Am I missing
something? Or do you have a camera that takes pictures into the
future? Or into the past.
MR. LAVINSKI: He might need new batteries for his camera.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Is this a picture of the structure right
now? I guess that's what we need to know.
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INVESTIGATOR SANTAFEMIA: Yes, it's unchanged.
The -- this was apparently a two-part case. And the initial case
that these pictures were taken for, which was a different case
altogether, that's not the case that we're here for. But these are the
pictures that were taken in the --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: But it hasn't changed since
December of'14.
INVESTIGATOR SANTAFEMIA: Right. I went out there
myself this month and it's unchanged.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Mr. Cadenhead has been before us before if
I'm not mistaken, correct?
MR. CADENHEAD: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Mr. Cadenhead?
MR. CADENHEAD: We received the April 13th citation. May
13th we applied for a permit from the county. And at that time we
were told we had to have an additional certification of-- it's called
elevation certification to go with the applicant. And we have obtained
the elevation certification and now are ready to reapply to the county
for the permit to make all the repairs.
We -- it's basically a catch -- in other words, to comply with the
county, they came -- we were there to apply for the permit, signed, in
other words, by the county, in other words, that we were there on -- at
13th of May, 215 (sic) the owner/builder statement of affidavit and the
permit was submitted to the county. And at that time in order to have a
complete application, they asked for the elevation certification. So we
contacted Bartell & Associates to do an elevation certification. The
elevation certification is ready today to pick up, and the permit is ready
to go back to the county to be submitted to have all the work done.
And we're looking like 30 days to get the work completed and
over with.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Let me just start with this: We want
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to see -- if you are in violation, the board will vote whether you're in
violation or not. And if you are in violation, then we can go further
with your explanation of dates and times and whatnot.
MR. CADENHEAD: Okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So would anybody like to make a
motion from the board?
MR. ASHTON: Make a motion a violation exists.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, we have a motion.
MR. LAVINSKI: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: A motion and a second that a
violation exists.
Any discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: All those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
Okay, now, you think that your elevation certificate is ready to be
picked up?
MR. CADENHEAD: Elevation certificate is ready to pick up as
of last night by telephone call. And once we submit it to the county,
the work that has to be -- the repair and stuff has to be done can be
done in 30 days.
And we're looking to be in compliance. We're not looking to -- in
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other words, this thing sit over there on the other street. My big house
burnt down about three years ago, and it is through neglect and that's
part -- we're going to get it straightened out.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: How much time do you think, and
knowing how things sometimes get delayed --
MR. CADENHEAD: With the county? In other words, there's
two ways that this can happen, is that they will take the owner/builder's
permit that we've issued they said that they will approve. I would say
if we had 60 days, in other words, we would have a complete C.O. on
the house from the county for the work that's completed.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, let me -- so 60 days you
should probably have everything done.
MR. CADENHEAD: Yes.
INVESTIGATOR SANTAFEMIA: Excuse me, Mr. Chairman, if
I may?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yes.
INVESTIGATOR SANTAFEMIA: I actually was able to obtain
a copy of the permit application that Mr. Cadenhead is referring to.
My concern with it is that in the description of the work, it only quotes
repair siding and repair interior, it does not speak to the hazardous
condition that is noted in the Building Official's document. So I'm not
sure he understands the seriousness of this.
The other thing is, if I just might add, that the ordinance is
specific about the time for him to abate this violation.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. And --
MR. CADENHEAD: After sitting down with John yesterday
reading through the total description, in other words, the way the
description -- there's two little words in the bottom of the thing that
comes into a 22.236. And when you go back and you find out what
22.236, it says that the building is not just needing siding, it's got to
have the structure repairs also that needs to be made.
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So that would be part of the new submittal that we will put in with
the county.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Do you have a contractor to do the work?
MR. CADENHEAD: We're applying for this one here under
owner/builder. And if we have a problem, we will go to contract with
affidavit using -- using a company to pull it. So, in other words, I don't
see no problem in getting it. If for some reason -- the affidavit we
went in for allows you as owner/builder to make a repair of a house,
the one house per year on this. So that's what we applied for under
owner/builder.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. John, what does the code say
as far as the amount of time granted to have this type of problem
resolved?
INVESTIGATOR SANTAFEMIA: For the dangerous structure
or hazardous structure section of the Property Maintenance Code it
says if the -- this would be 22.236: If the owner fails to repair the
hazardous condition within 30 days of service of the notice -- which
was back in April, I believe, so we're well beyond that -- or within 15
days of the final determination by the Code Enforcement Board or
Special Magistrate that a hazardous condition exists, then the Housing
Official shall, in ordering the repair or demolition of dangerous
building, be guided by the following. Then it lists the different sections
that come straight out of the Building Code. And --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Do you understand what John has
just --
MR. CADENHEAD: I went over that with him yesterday.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's probably the reason that this
isn't a case where a stip would happen, because of the dates.
INVESTIGATOR SANTAFEMIA: Correct.
MR. CADENHEAD: And what John suggested, that I had to
come before the board and present what took place, and that's the
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reason we're here today, to get the thing resolved and do what we need
to do.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, the concern that I have is it's a
dangerous structure. I don't know, are there any kids that hang out
there or possibility of it falling on somebody?
INVESTIGATOR SANTAFEMIA: I'm not familiar with the
residents on the street but it is a residential street in East Naples.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And the code does call for it to be
fixed immediately. Our next meeting is in a month, even though the
code requires 15 days. Is there any possibility of-- it's not the siding
so much, unless that's on another case that we're aware of. It's the roof.
MR. CADENHEAD: The dangerous repairs can be done within
the next -- before your next meeting.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. CADENHEAD: Okay. In other words, here's what John
and I discussed. In the county's ordinance they require everybody to
get a permit. But you can also make a $1,500 worth of work without --
so we can go ahead while the permit's in process and fix any dangerous
part to the building.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It looks as though that portion that's
bowed there, it needs to be --
MR. CADENHEAD: It's a carport that has weathered and -- if
you don't check on something and you don't go and pay attention to it,
in other words, the weather will deteriorate it faster than what you
think about it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I understand.
So the first part of doing what you need to do is probably going to
be a demo on that portion of the property that is dangerous.
MR. CADENHEAD: Well, the demo -- the demo -- I think it's
more repair of the structure of the property that is dangerous, to make
the proper repair to it.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Can you put that last picture back up,
Kerry, please?
I mean, that looks to me like rotted wood and whatnot that needs
to be removed before you can repair it.
MR. CADENHEAD: No, you're correct, sir. In other words, the
wood's got to be removed and new wood put in its place.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, so that would be like a demo,
if you would.
MR. CADENHEAD: That would be a demo of that part. But --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And demo permits you can generally
get quickly.
MR. CADENHEAD: I'm a demo contractor, so in other words,
the demo of that particular deal we can obtain within a two-day period.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, and then you could make it so
that it's not dangerous anymore if you --
MR. CADENHEAD: That's correct.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- demoed that which can fall on
someone's head.
Yes?
INVESTIGATOR SANTAFEMIA: I switched -- Mr. Chairman,
I switched the photos out to show the actual main structure.
The roof, it's a little difficult to see there, but the roof on the left
side of that picture, that is also buckling. That's not the carport.
MR. CADENHEAD: That's a little front porch that is -- can be
done also at the same time.
INVESTIGATOR SANTAFEMIA: It's all tied in with the roof
members.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It looks like there's extensive need to
replace probably the whole roof. And the under --
MR. CADENHEAD: No, no, the whole roof is -- the basic part
of the roof is in good shape. In other words, we have a porch that
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you're looking at there now and we have a carport that needs to be
replaced. Between the two -- that's the only thing, the structure -- the
Building Department made an application, in other words, they went
out and made a declaration that the house was off the foundation,
which is not a true statement. Other words, there's some things that the
Building Department made a stipulation that the person in the Building
Department is no longer there that I take total exception with, as being
a structure mover in the county.
What we can do is in 30 days we can have everything repaired
that has to be repaired that is structurally flawed on the thing. We've
been waiting to go do it with a permit.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, my concern is this: You may
not agree with the county's inspector, but we need to.
So what it looks like, you can have most of this problem resolved
by the next meeting that we have.
MR. CADENHEAD: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And I'd like to hear from the board if
anybody has any suggestions.
MR. LAVINSKI: Yeah, I don't --
MR. MARINO: This building is vacant, correct?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Is this building vacant?
MR. CADENHEAD: Yes, sir.
MR. LAVINSKI: I'd like to see that letter again from the
Building Inspector. I think I saw something that said the ground
supporting this is unstable?
INVESTIGATOR SANTAFEMIA: Yeah, that's the foundation
he's referring to. That's number one.
MR. CADENHEAD: I make exception. In other words, this
building inspector is no longer with the county. And the letter that you
got was finally signed on 6/17.
The foundation of the house is totally solid. It is a framed built
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house and is sitting on the same foundation that it was built and it's not
buckled or is nothing else. There's no problem with the structure of the
house. What you see on the carport and what you see on the front
porch are the two parts that has to be repaired. And we're not arguing
no point on that.
MR. LAVINSKI: I'd like to see that from the county.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah, the problem is that I
understand what you're saying and I'm reading the letter that we have
to take as gospel because those are the people who are the inspectors
that do this type of work. That's a problem. I mean, if this is not
situated on the slab, if you will, that's a big problem.
MR. CADENHEAD: Their statement is a total incorrect
statement, and I have no problem in saying that in front of this board.
The part that has to happen is they've got to come back and certify
the rebuilding of the carport and they have to recertify the structure of
the front porch. At that time they'll have to come back and recertify
that the building is sitting on the foundation that it was placed on.
That's never moved off the foundation and the building has never
collapsed.
So these are -- and if we have to hire an engineer to disapprove
the county, I have no problem in hiring a professional engineer to
disprove it. Now, my simplest deal is to get it all done in the 30 days
before the next meeting. And John and I have talked about what we've
got to do and get it cleared up.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So in 30 days -- before the next
meeting you'd probably have to have somebody from the county go out
there, somebody from the Building Department, inspect the structure to
make sure it's not a danger anymore, that's one thing.
MR. CADENHEAD: I welcome anybody from the county to
come back out, make an inspection with me there on-site and have
them show me anything where this one inspector came and he just
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checked the blocks on a form. He didn't get up underneath the house
to see if it was off the structure, he didn't do nothing.
Now, in other words, that's where I've got the exception with the
county part. My part is basically I should have never let this happen.
In other words, it happened, it was a vacant piece of property, it
happened, it needs to be corrected, and in other words, in 30 days I can
have it corrected before we come here next week -- or next meeting.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Next month.
MR. LAVINSKI: Mr. Chairman, I don't believe he can have the
statements in item number one on this document corrected in 30 days,
the lack of support of the ground necessary to support it.
MR. CADENHEAD: It is -- if I have to have an engineer in the
next 30 days to certify that statement number one is incorrect, I will
pay to have an engineer go there and make the certification. Because
this as very false statement. And that's where there's a difference. This
thing here was put up by this Tom Germain (phonetic), and he never
went and made the inspection of the foundation. The foundation is the
same foundation sitting there as what has always been, and the ground
is the same ground.
So the statement is -- and it's not off the foundation. In other
words, what he's talking about -- I don't know what he's talking about.
But what I do know is what needs to be happening is that we need to
be in compliance with the house, and we can do that within the next 30
days.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, I think we're hashing the same
thing over and over.
One of the things I think that might be a solution is we bring this
thing back next month. We can vote on it now giving him 30 days,
you can give him 15 days as per the code, but we don't meet until next
month. And next month the county will have the opportunity to go out
there and inspect whatever needs to be inspected to make sure it's in
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compliance as far as being a dangerous building. And if it's not fixed
at that time, part of our motion today can be to bring it under a fine per
day or demolish the building.
MR. CADENHEAD: I have no problem with that. Because I'm
not sitting here telling you that we're going to get it done within the
next 30 days without having it completed, so --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You just said before that you could
have it completed.
MR. CADENHEAD: No, I said in the next 30 days, in other
words, we're going to work under the premise -- right now while we're
submitting the permits, we're working under a deal to go in there and
correct what needs to be done. We'll submit a demo permit to take out
the carport and while it's being rebuilt.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: One suggestion, for whatever it's
worth. It's like painting a wall before you pull it down, not a good
idea. The main thing, as Mr. Lavinski has pointed out, is if the
building -- if you can't get an engineer and the county to agree that the
building on the foundation is secure, then anything you do to the roof
doesn't matter.
MR. CADENHEAD: No, I understand what you're saying.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: The roof could remain, but the --
MR. CADENHEAD: And I'm very confident that the foundation
is not as described in number one.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I understand that.
MR. CADENHEAD: In other words, I'm more than confident,
and more confident that if it takes an engineer's certification, then I'll
pay for the engineer's certification to disclaim the county.
MR. MARINO: Mr. Chairman, I have a question. Two
statements in there: Moved off its foundation or lacks the support of
the ground necessary to support it. That's two different --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I understand that. And unfortunately
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that individual is not before us so we can't question them. There seems
to be a disagreement between the respondent and the county. To
resolve this, I think 30 days is -- it's been this way since January of'f 15,
I don't think 30 days is going to make a whole lot of difference to give
the respondent enough time to do what he says he can do. We need to
structure a motion that would do that.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I have a question. This letter is dated January
9th, 2015. You're very adamant that the structure is not ready to
collapse. Why hasn't this letter been disputed sooner than today? This
letter should have been -- as soon as you received this letter, you
should have went down to the county and --
MR. CADENHEAD: Here's what we received. In other words, I
received a thing that was prepared April 13th, 2015, okay. In other
words, we didn't receive it April 13th, it came in certified mail. After
that, in May -- in May the 13th we were at the county applying for a
permit to take care of the problem. At that time we were told that our
permit was incomplete because we needed a certification of-- an
elevation certification. We went and hired a professional surveyor to
make that determination. He's made the determination that it's above
the floodplain and that it meets that requirement of FEMA. So we did
what the county asked at that point.
Now it's come to a deal that it needs to -- the problem needs to be
corrected, and if we could have 30 days, in other words, we can get it
done.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I guess a question to the county: Why did it
take three months from the date of the violation being first observed to
the Notice of Violation for a dangerous house? That seems like a long
time.
INVESTIGATOR SANTAFEMIA: Well, in reading the notes
from the investigator who started this case, they had made contact with
Mr. Cadenhead right away, and he had indicated, just like he is now,
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that he would get on this and take care of this right away without any
problems. And they were trying to give him an opportunity to bring
this property up to code or demolish it, one or the other.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I notice from the pictures that were
taken in December, which is prior to the January 8th date on today's
case, that somebody had something to do with the property. So --
INVESTIGATOR SANTAFEMIA: Yeah, it was probably a
separate property maintenance case that was called in for less serious
violations. But once they determined that it was a dangerous structure,
that's the case that took priority.
But like I said, according to the investigator's notes in the case,
along with his supervisor at the time -- actually Ralph Bosa, who I
think is here -- you know, Mr. Cadenhead was contacted according to
this case, on February 13th. It was explained to him what the situation
was and he stated that he would get with a contractor and get -- address
all the issues immediately.
The investigator --
MR. LEFEBVRE: When was this letter given to him, this
January 9th letter?
INVESTIGATOR SANTAFEMIA: All I know is the
investigator sent all the information out with the Notice of Violation,
the corrective action required, which also has that same language in it
that that letter does.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Was sent out -- the date on the -- it
says April 15th here.
INVESTIGATOR SANTAFEMIA: I think April 15th it was
signed for.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Observation, from my point of view is this
case should have been brought forward and moved forward sooner
than it did, being a dangerous building in a residential neighborhood. I
don't think it should have languished almost six months. I think it
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should have been brought to us much sooner. But we're here now, but
in the future just personally I'd like to see these come in front of us
sooner than this.
I think we should structure it for 30 days and with a fine that's
going to motivate him to get this fixed. Because it's been six months,
he was notified in February, so he's had four and a half, five months to
get this fixed and nothing's been done, so --
MR. LAVINSKI: Mr. Chairman, I still think that if you read one
and two, that's prima facie evidence that this building in this inspector's
opinion appears to be uninhabitable. I think until that's resolved,
nothing should be done on that house to further its existence.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Right, and it's just money wasted if you're
going to repair a roof and have to rip the house down.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's why I said that the first person
I would contact is an engineer who's going to certify that the
foundation can support the house. And I think 30 days, given the
amount of time that it's been sitting there right now, we could structure
a motion that would basically say we'll grant you 30 days and if it's not
in compliance in 30 days, "X" amount of dollars will accrue for each
day after our next meeting.
And I think the respondent is aware that this is a serious case, and
that those dollars add up very quickly.
MR. CADENHEAD: I understand that. In this deal, and I
appreciate you gentlemen, James' comment on this. The one of two
has to be addressed. In other words, basically the county's made a
statement, and the county's made a false statement. So I have no
problem in the next 30 days having an engineer visit the site and doing
an affidavit that one and two are not correct.
I agree that the outside looks of the carport and the front porch
has to be corrected and is there. So the house -- in other words, or
either we bring the county back out and have an inspection done by the
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county on this.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Let me try this. We're just saying
the same thing over and over.
If you're going to get an engineer out there, and you're going to
need to, the county can arrange, I'm sure, to have their person meet the
engineer out there where they both will agree, or they may disagree, I
don't know. If they disagree, then it's the county that will probably
carry the most weight.
MR. CADENHEAD: I understand.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So you understand that.
MR. CADENHEAD: Yeah, I understand.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So if we granted a motion, let me
just throw out some -- for 30 days or until the next meeting. What's
the date of the next meeting?
MS. ADAMS: July 23rd.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: July 23rd? My older brother's
birthday.
Okay, if we gave 'til the next meeting and during that time you
will make arrangements for an engineer to certify that what you say is
true, along with the county getting somebody out there, I know it's
vacation time and whatnot, but given a month, I think it can be done, if
we order it.
Does anybody on the board have a problem with that line?
MR. MARINO: The only problem I have with it is that it should
be taken care of right away. Coming into bad weather, rainy season,
hurricane season, the bad wind can take that whole thing and take it
away. So sooner the better.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Right. But they can't repair a roof if in fact
the structure --
MR. MARINO: Exactly.
MR. LEFEBVRE: So I think an engineer -- it's actually three
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weeks. That means three weeks from now.
So I would support that if that's going to be a motion that by next
meeting an engineer in the county -- if this is refuted, then they can
move forward. And I would agree with a motion that 30 days after our
next meeting that the work be completed.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. You want to word that
motion and we'll see how it flies.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Let's see if I can word it.
By our next meeting, which is July 23rd, an inspection is
completed either -- or by both the county and also by Mr. Cadenhead's
engineer, refuting the January 9th letter from -- is it the Building
Department?
INVESTIGATOR SANTAFEMIA: Yes, it's the chief building
official that signed it.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Okay. And the two statements in there that
the -- regarding the structure not being safe.
Once that's done and if in fact it's deemed that the building is not
ready to collapse, he will have 30 days after our next hearing to
complete all work to bring the structure into compliance.
That may have to be reworded or changed.
MR. MARINO: Sounds good.
INVESTIGATOR SANTAFEMIA: So essentially we're talking
seven weeks from today for him to address this?
MR. LEFEBVRE: That's correct.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I think it's possible --
INVESTIGATOR SANTAFEMIA: We have to put plans in
there, but --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Why not limit it to the next meeting?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Everything?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: No, just to see whether this thing is
complient or not. And then you're saying another -- Mr. Cadenhead
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has said that he can get everything resolved actually in 30 days. But
obviously the first thing that needs to be done is to have an engineer
and the county looks at the structure. It's either safe or it's not safe. If
it's not safe, don't waste your time.
MR. CADENHEAD: We understand that, sir.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Right, but if-- I don't think we've ever given a
recommendation, an order, and then came back and modified it to that
degree and come back and say okay, now that you've got it inspected,
the next step is -- I think we do it all in stage one, that if the home is
not deemed dangerous, then it can go ahead and be repaired. If it's
deemed dangerous, then it has to be demolished.
MR. CADENHEAD: I agree with what you said.
MR. LAVINSKI: I'll agree to that.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So your motion is to grant the
respondent -- go ahead, I don't want to put words in your mouth.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Until next meeting. As I stated, it was pretty
long and lengthy.
That if the building is not deemed dangerous that he will have 30
days to complete all work to bring it back into compliance. If it is
deemed dangerous, then he will have 30 days to demolish the building.
And the fines, if you do not have it inspected by 30 days, then it
would be $250 and then $250 after the next 30 days, if it wasn't
demolished or fully repaired.
MR. LAVINSKI: I'll second that.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Any comments from the board, just to --
MR. DOING: Sounds good.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I think that solves -- and Mr.
Cadenhead, you have no problem with that.
MR. CADENHEAD: No, I totally agree.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yes, John?
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INVESTIGATOR SANTAFEMIA: I'm just wondering if it
would have been easier just to grant him an extension 'til the next
meeting.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, I think this kind of puts it on --
done. We found him in violation, we'd like to finish.
MR. LEFEBVRE: We've given him -- or the county's given him
several months. So if there's no fines or anything attached, how do we
know that in 30 days from now we might not be in the same position?
So I think to attach a fine to it to let him know that it has to be done is
the best --
INVESTIGATOR SANTAFEMIA: And the ops cost for today?
MR. LEFEBVRE: And operational costs to be paid within 30
days, thank you, in the amount of$67.95.
MR. MARINO: And $250 a day.
MR. LEFEBVRE: $250 a day, if the inspections are not done
within 30 days. And then after the 30 days if the -- either demolishing
the building or all work completed and the certificate of occupancy is
not obtained, $250.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I know that doesn't quite line up with
your proposal, but it seems to work out best for the board.
INVESTIGATOR SANTAFEMIA: I'm just trying to figure out,
so am I bringing this back at the next meeting?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: In 30 days, at the next meeting we
should know whether or not -- on the 23rd of July, we should know
whether or not the foundation is suitable for this structure. At that
time.
INVESTIGATOR SANTAFEMIA: If it is deemed --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: If it is deemed --
INVESTIGATOR SANTAFEMIA: -- suitable --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: If it is suitable, then Mr. Cadenhead
has the next 30 days to bring it into compliance or will either demolish
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it or 250 a day fine accrues.
INVESTIGATOR SANTAFEMIA: And if it's determined -- if
there's a discrepancy between the building official and his engineer?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: The county is what we have to go
by.
MR. LAVINSKI: The county wins.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: The county wins. I mean, I can --
INVESTIGATOR SANTAFEMIA: Does he still have the 30
days for the same thing or does it expedite that process?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: No, as long as Mr. Cadenhead
knows that the engineer and the county have to agree, and if the
engineer and the county don't agree, that we are going to use the
county's letter as our marching orders, if you will.
Because, I mean, I can go out and hire someone to say that I look
like a ham sandwich. You know, we understand that. You have an
engineer, we have the county to go out there. I would think that they
could both agree. If they don't, we know what comes next.
Any other comments from the board?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, all those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Cadenhead.
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MS. ADAMS: The next case is Number Three from hearings,
Tab 3, Case CEN20150002834, Heritage Square Real Estate, LLC.
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: This is one of the complainants
on the property. He'd like to speak at the end after I give my --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Swear everybody in, that way it
doesn't cost anything extra.
(Mr. David Hoffman and Investigator Baldwin were duly sworn.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good morning.
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: Good morning.
For the record, Patrick Baldwin, Collier County Code
Enforcement Investigator and Certified Noise Specialist.
This is in reference to case number CEN20150002834, dealing
with the violation of Collier County Code of Laws, Chapter 54, Article
IV, Section 54-92(B)(1), no sound shall violate any sound standard
provision of this article, table one.
Located at the Beach Tavern on 13514 Tamiami Trail North.
Folio No. 00152480002.
Service was given on February 23rd, 2015. Notice of Violation
was signed by the owner, Ms. Joseph Magdelana (phonetic).
I would like to present case evidence in the following exhibits:
First, noise readings conducted on April 24th, 2015.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Why don't you go through all the
exhibits that you're going to introduce and then we'll vote to accept
them.
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: Excellent.
Noise readings conducted on May 22nd, 2015. An aerial photo
showing my locations of my readings. And three pages of the noise
ordinance that show tables one, two and three.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, get a motion from the board to
accept?
MR. LAVINSKI: Motion to accept.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion.
MR. ASHTON: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And a second.
All those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously. Thank you.
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: Good morning. On February
15th I conducted several noise/sound readings with the Sheriffs
Department. The readings were between 9:30 p.m. and 10:05 p.m. I
recorded an average of 78 decibels, which is six decibels over the
allowable level of 72 decibels for that time.
The ambient level, when the music was off, averaged 63 decibels.
So that is a 15 decibel difference from when the music was playing and
when the music was off. I conducted those readings from site A at a
named complainant's house. This is the first site, A. Can you see
there?
That is to the north of the Beach Tavern.
I then set up a meeting with the owner of the strip mall and he
signed the Notice of Violation on February 23rd, 2015.
I was still receiving several complaints from the residents directly
behind the Beach Tavern and residents to the north of the Beach
Tavern.
On April 24th, 2015 I found my second violation from directly
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behind the Beach Tavern at site two at the named complainant's house.
Which is right here on the map. Wait, where am I?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We got it, we see the star.
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: I consistently was obtaining
readings of 73 decibels after 10:00 p.m. when the allowable limit after
10 p.m. is 67 decibels. So that was six over the allowable limit.
From the ambient sound from that location, it was 60. So again, it
was 13 decibels over from when the source or/music was on rather
than off.
The third time I found a violation was on May 22nd, 2015. This
time I was consistently obtaining readings of 72 decibels after 10:00
p.m. Again, the allowable level after 10:00 p.m. is 67 decibels. On
that night when the music was off I was getting ambient sound
readings of 54 decibels, meaning that there was a consistent 18 decibel
difference from when the music was on and off
Right now I'd like to present my complainant in the area, one of
the complainants, if that's possible.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Let me see if we have any questions
of you from the board right now, and then we can go forward.
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: No questions at this time. Why don't
you have your witness, if you will, testify.
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: Mr. David Hoffman. And he is
speaking on behalf of the -- well, he can tell you, the people in San
Marino and the people in the area. I have had several complainants
from the noise at the Beach Tavern. I personally have had six
complainants, named complainants in the area for this.
Mr. Hoffman?
MR. HOFFMAN: Good morning. I just thought I'd --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Can you move the microphone down
so we -- there you go.
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MR. HOFFMAN: Thank you. I just thought I'd bring some
evidence, if I may submit it to you to support what's going on.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. If you submit it, that means
we keep it, you don't get it back, is that okay?
MR. HOFFMAN: Yep.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. HOFFMAN: I paid 15 bucks to get this one. So from the
Collier County Sheriffs, my complaints started November of'f 14.
Repeatedly -- many times repeatedly in the same night a sheriff would
be sent out, the sound would go down for a little bit, half an hour later
back up. You know, they simply don't care. Proof right here. Many
of the Collier deputies have said they've never heard music louder.
They just shake their head, they can't believe it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: What time does the music end?
MR. HOFFMAN: Well, this is interesting. Because one of the
people that lives in my community said even after it's closed there may
be some cleaning people in there and they're still blaring the music. So
it's not just when the place is open for business. So sometimes up to
3:00 in the morning, you know.
And here's another example. Now, I live in Caribbean Park,
which is one community. This is a letter from the manager of San --
Lake San Marino Resort. May I read it? It's short.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Sure.
MR. HOFFMAN: To whom it may concern: I have been made
aware that there's a proposal of hearing for the case at the Beach
Tavern's noise complaint. I would just like to add that our community
has been affected by this problem also. We have made numerous -- we
have many police complaints and have spoken to the owners and the
landlord. Most of the residents of our community are back at their
northern homes at this time so they're not available to attend this
hearing. I have a file of correspondence from our residents to the
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police and if necessary can be obtained. I also have residents talking
of putting their homes up for sale, you know, which would cause
income loss for this community. I hope these hearings result in a good
outcome for our community as well as the surrounding communities.
Please feel free to get in touch with me. Susan Jackson, Resort
Manager, Lake San Marino Resort.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Can you tell me what time the music
starts?
MR. HOFFMAN: Oh, gee, it's been going on for eight months
with me, so -- I go to bed early.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: What time it starts, 7:00, 8:00 at
night?
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: I can speak to that, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: Depending on if they're having
live music, sometimes acoustical, sometimes band at happy hour. This
can go on any time between 5:00 and 6:00 at night to 10:00 at night.
Then typically after 10:00 p.m. they have a deejay come in, and that's
what a lot of the residents are complaining about as well, which he
could speak to, about the violation of their walls. And 500 feet away
from the deejay's bass blaring. And that can go on 'til 2:00 a.m.
Some of the people have complained after 3:00. But what the
Sheriffs Department has found out is it's mostly people in the parking
lot. That's actually not the Beach Tavern or it's people in the area with
their bass booming inside the parking lot, and that's something that we
cannot enforce.
But the music really does start anywhere -- I got a violation
before 10:00, my first violation before 10:00 p.m. when the allowable
level is 72 decibels, so that's pretty high. I was getting them for 78
decibels at that time. Then I got them after 10:00 when it goes down to
67, and they were still at 72, 73 decibels.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Have you spoken with the landlord?
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: I have, yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And what does the landlord say?
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: The landlord is very frustrated.
He said he'd pass on any fine or anything to the Beach Tavern, and he
feels like he was duped because that wasn't the type of establishment
that he thought was going in there.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Have you spoken to the proprietors
of the Beach Tavern?
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: Yes, I have.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And they say?
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: They have a noise meter and
they don't think that they're breaking the noise code. Their noise meter
is an app. on a cell phone and it's a -- or it's a $50 Radio Shack
machine. The machine that I'm using is an $8,000 certified machine
that's calibrated every time I go to the location.
MR. LEFEBVRE: This establishment has a large outside patio
area to the south of it with a bar outside and chairs and everything. I've
been there before. Not when it was this place, but prior.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Were you making --
MR. LEFEBVRE: Where is the equipment that they're using?
Where are they playing this music? It must be outside then, correct?
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: Sometimes it's outside. I've
gotten them for a violation -- the first violation was outside. Second
violation, they had a band inside.
Now, when I was at my second violation, I was here behind the
thing, and I could hear every single word that was playing in the
music. It was an AC/DC song and I could sing along with the music.
In my eight years of being a certified noise investigator for the county
I've never been able to hear the whole song that loud that late at night
at 11 :00, pretty much you'll see in the evidence just before 11:00 at
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night.
MR. LEFEBVRE: That is pretty amazing, because in this
establishment, the public area is in front.
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: Right.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Except for on the side where this outdoor
patio is. But if you're inside, there's only a couple doors on the side
that you can go out.
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: Correct.
MR. LEFEBVRE: So that's the amazing part.
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: Prior to when we first got these
complaints I met with the proprietors of the business and I said, you
cannot open those back doors no matter what. You open those back
doors, it's going to get even louder. They're aware of that, they've even
tried to soundproof that, but they're not regulating the noise inside.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, do you have any other
evidence to provide?
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: That's all the evidence I have. I
don't know if Mr. Hoffman still --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You have the noise readings? Did
you want to talk to those that you had on a sheet?
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: Yeah, I gave those in my
testimony, but I just gave those to submit the data that comes from the
machine.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN. Okay, Mr. Hoffman?
MR. HOFFMAN: I have one more letter, if I may.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Sure.
MR. HOFFMAN: Again, just to reiterate, I found more than one
time --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Microphone.
MR. HOFFMAN: I'm sorry. I've called -- they're loud, I'm quiet.
I've called numerous times in one night. I mean, the police will
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come. What's it costing the taxpayers? The police come, say turn it
down. They turn it down maybe 'til the police leave. Half an hour
later it's back up. Police come, same night, it's in here, you know, they
leave, down, up, down, up. They do not care.
Last night one of my neighbors gave me this which substantiates
the same problem.
To whom it may concern: This is to register a formal complaint
against the Beach Tavern located at the intersection of Tamiami Trail
and Wiggins Pass. I have on numerous occasions contacted the police
throughout the fall and winter season and now into the spring and
summer. So the music was loud, she told me last night. Yet after even
being cited twice it's still loud. And I started calling last November of
2014.
The music is extremely loud and in the fall and winter season and
now into the summer.
It says: Starting at approximately 10:00 to 11 :00 at night. My
residence is located several streets behind this location and the noise
rattles the dishes in my cupboard.
May I add that the San Marino Manager and me as well have
used the words it vibrates our walls, it's (indicating), coming into our
homes. I have to get up and go teach. I work in the elementary school
system. You know, I can't do this. And I asked Patrick one time, do I
have to sell my house? Do I have to sell my house? This is November
14th, you know.
And it says that she spoke with Officer Colon (phonetic)
concerning this matter and she informed me that there are several of
my neighbors that have also lodged complaints against the
establishment. I've endured many sleepless and wakeful nights
because of their disregard of the noise ordinance rules. They have
been told and warned repeatedly, sometimes several times in one night
by numerous visits from the police, and they have continued to ignore
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these warnings.
And there's more to the letter.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I don't understand why the police can't go
back -- if they go back the third time and say now this is past causing a
disturbance and have, like, the manager arrested. I mean, I just don't
understand why that's not enforceable in that regard. Why is it in this
venue?
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: Typically Code Enforcement
handles the commercial to residential complaints. Unfortunately a lot
of the residents in Collier County are mostly seasonal in this area and
they just call the police. They didn't realize that code enforcement
Department handled it. So code enforcement -- I mean so the Sheriffs
Department would go out there and they would just address it at that
time.
Once they learned that they could call code enforcement, we went
out there quite regularly. At that time during the past season we only
had four noise investigators that could go out. Right now we have
more certified noise investigators. I think we're up to about 10
certified noise investigators.
So at this time I was handling the case I couldn't be there all the
time when the complaints. Mr. Hoffman and five other complainants
would call me and saying were you there last night? No, sorry,
couldn't be there last night. Because it was really loud. But I said, just
give me time, give me time, and over time if it's that loud and
everyone's saying it, I'll get them.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I'd like to make a motion that a violation does
in fact exist.
MR. LAVINSKI: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second that
a violation exists.
Any discussion on the motion?
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(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, all those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
Before you go on, do you have a suggestion? We're going to treat
this as a repeat violation; is that correct?
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: It can't be repeat because it hasn't
been adjudicated, so I would say recurring?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Do you have a --
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: I have a recommendation.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, why don't you put it on the --
thank you.
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: The Beach Tavern -- description
of violation: The Beach Tavern sound levels exceeding the allowable
decibel limit for the time period readings were performed.
Recommendation: That the Code Enforcement Board orders the
respondent to pay all operational costs in the amount of$70.89
incurred in the prosecution of this case within 30 days and abate all
violations by:
One: Must confine sound levels to all live performance music
and/or amplified music to be pursuant to the Code of Laws Section
54-92.(B)(1)(2), and must not exceed sound levels in table one and two
within blank days of this hearing or a fine of "blank" dollars per day
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will be imposed until the violation is abated.
Two: The respondent must notify the code enforcement
investigator when the violation has been abated in order to conduct a
final inspection to confirm abatement. If the respondent fails to abate
the violation, the county may abate the violation and may use the
assistance of the Collier County Sheriffs Office to enforce the
provisions of this order, and all costs of abatement shall be assessed to
the property owner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You spoke with the landlord, you
told him the case was coming before us today?
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: I did not. I called a
representative of the landlord, and he said that he might still be out of
the country. He wasn't quite sure, so --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: How about the owner of the
business, were they notified?
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: The owner of the business was
notified. I notified their manager as I was posting the property.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And they said they'd be here,
wouldn't be here?
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: They told me that they notified
the owner.
MR. LEFEBVRE: What's the maximum that we can fine in a
first violation?
MS. NICOLA: Good question.
MR. LAVINSKI: Our rules don't list a specific noise. I've been
looking for that. I can't find noise. However, where it's reoccurring,
whatever number we come up with, we can go one and a half times
that.
MR. LEFEBVRE: But we have to have heard the case before,
correct?
MR. LAVINSKI: Well, not according to this.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Let me give you a suggestion. They
don't seem to listen. Maybe it's because the noise is too loud. But if
we were to impose a $250 a day fine and Code Enforcement goes out
there in a week and fines them again, this would be a second case; is
that correct?
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: There is a set fine in the
ordinance. Unfortunately I don't have it in front of me here and I'm not
familiar with the set fine.
But most importantly, we'd like to get an adjudication. Once we
get one adjudication, then we can come back here and we can ask to
remove the amplified sound permit.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: In my spare time I was reading --
and short life, I was reading Florida Statute 162 which does provide,
contrary to something we learned this week, a maximum of$500.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Okay, well --
MS. NICOLA: Article 9 says 1,000, that's how I'm reading it, of
the rules.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, our rules say 1,000, but I was
going to the Florida Statute 162.1.2.
MR. LEFEBVRE: What page?
MS. NICOLA: What is it, 162.02?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah, let me find it for you.
MS. NICOLA: I could probably pull that up.
MR. LAVINSKI: That will teach the county to send us to school.
Now we're really sharp.
MR. MARINO: I would go with our rules.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I wouldn't go with our rules, I would go with
the state rules.
MS. NICOLA: Florida Statutes.
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: Section 54-83, violations,
penalties and enforcement. Any person violating any of the provisions
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of this article shall upon conviction therefore be subject to a fine not
exceeding $500.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Thank you very much.
MR. LAVINSKI: That's in 54.92?
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: Yes. Or imprisonment not
exceeding 60 days it says as well. Or both.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So filling in the blanks on
your -- how much time -- Gerald, are you doing this one?
MR. LEFEBVRE: I'll do this one.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. It shouldn't take much to
lower the sound in one day.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Since July 4th is coming up, I would give
them three days or a fine of$500 a day will be imposed.
MR. LAVINSKI: Second.
MR. LEFEBVRE: And then operational costs to be paid within
30 days.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Of$70.89.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Yes, thank you.
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: $500 per violation?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Per day the violation occurs.
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: Typically on a noise case I
would go out, I'd let them know you violated -- I'd write them a
citation $500 there. The next day could I go back and write them
another $500 if they violate it again the very next day?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Absolutely.
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: Thank you.
MR. LEFEBVRE: So it would be $500 --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Per incident.
MR. LEFEBVRE: -- per incident that you'd go out there instead
of per day. Because you want to have it verified. So $500 per
incident. Does that --
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MS. NICOLA: Well, I have to pull the statute. In reading the
rule, it talks about the amount per day, so I'm not comfortable without
looking at the rule with giving an opinion on whether it should be per
day or per violation.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Well, I mean, per violation is less than per
day. Because if a neighbor just called up and said the music's loud, we
can't verify that. We can verify if a violation exists, like the previous
case with -- we can verify that no work's been done. But we can't
verify -- if someone called up every single day and said the music's
loud, the music's loud, how do we know that? We can't verify it.
MS. NICOLA: That's true. Well, they can have the Sheriffs
officers going out there, obviously. And that's what it sounds like --
MR. LEFEBVRE: Do they have a meter too at the Sheriffs
Department?
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: The Sheriffs Department now
has certified meters and do they have certified deputies, yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I think what we're trying to do is to
make them aware that a problem exists and will not be tolerated.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Right.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Period.
MS. NICOLA: Here's the difficulty I have. I think there's a
misdemeanor noise ordinance and I don't know why the Sheriffs
Department isn't enforcing it. And my guess is -- and I hate to guess as
an attorney, because we like to deal in more black-and-white, but
probably the way that that violation reads in the criminal statutes is that
the Sheriffs officers have the opportunity to go out and give them
misdemeanor violations on a case-per-case basis.
What I don't know is whether our particular code enforcement
sections allow us to do a per violation or whether we have to do what
we've normally done which is a per day ongoing violation, which is
what the Code Enforcement official here does, he goes out and checks
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it and says it's an ongoing violation, it hasn't been corrected. I mean,
it's a difference.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: If you look at Florida Statute 162.09,
paragraph one --
MR. LEFEBVRE: Can we put that up?
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: May I approach?
MR. LEFEBVRE: It might be good for all of us to look at that.
Unless do you need it?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Who, me?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Yeah, do you need the reference?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: No, I memorized it.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Okay. It was very fresh. We went to a course
back on Friday for four hours to find out what the Florida law is, so --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: If you look down, it says that the
fine in imposed in section (sic) shall not exceed $250 a day for the first
violation and shall not exceed $500 a day for repeat violation.
My question is, if you go out there on a Monday and cite them
and then you go out there on a Tuesday, is that the second violation?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Well, if you read the next: However, if the
Code Enforcement Board finds the violation to be irreparable, or
reversible, which this is reversible, it may impose a fine not to exceed
$500 per violation.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's if you cut down a tree.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Right, right.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's a different story.
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: Sir, I think ultimately the main
goal here is if they continue to break the noise code and keep upsetting
the residents, I'd like to bring them back here again and ask for the
removal of their amplified sound permit.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: And I think that's primarily -- I
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don't want to close down a business, but if they're going to break that
noise code again, I think the residents would be happy if they didn't
have an amplified sound permit. There are other restaurants in that
area that don't have an amplified sound permit and they're not breaking
the ordinance.
MR. MARINO: I have a question.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Go ahead, Tony.
MR. MARINO: He's called out at 10:30 at night. You got the
first violation. 12:00 at night he's called back out again. Second
violation?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We're not sure of the answer, Tony.
But I think what we're trying to do is to put them on notice that we are
looking at them very closely. And if you cite them once and show
them a copy of the order -- I'd like to get this order out before the
weekend.
MS. NICOLA: All the orders are going out before the weekend,
because I'm leaving this week. So they're all going out.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I got a couple questions. First of all, it says --
in 2(A) it says, a fine imposed pursuant to this section shall not exceed
$250 a day for the first violation.
So we're saying that it's $500. So will we have to drop down to
$250?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's what it says.
MS. NICOLA: That's what it says.
And here's my concern. You know, we're giving him three days.
And if this is an ongoing violation then, I mean, it's going to be
ongoing for a month.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Well, here's a way to correct this. Not to cut
you off. But we can do $250 a day and it would have to be verified by
a device, sound device, and it would not -- it would be $250 a day no
matter how many times someone goes out there. So if you go out three
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times it's $250 a day. Instead of doing it per time. So the maximum
could be $250 a day.
MS. NICOLA: Well, you know, you could say too that you give
them three days to cure it and charge a fine of$250 a day until, you
know, say the 4th of July weekend. And then if it's not cured by that
time it would be considered to be a repeated violation and an enhanced
fine of "X" amount of dollars up to $500 a day. I mean, I think that
you could clearly do that under provision 2(A). Because he's going to
have to go back out there anyway.
I mean, it's not going to end the 4th of July. If my order goes on
out on Friday, that's kind of the date we're giving him. We're giving
him 'til Saturday.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Either that or he can physically deliver the
order.
MS. NICOLA: Which would be good. We'd give the order to
you to deliver to them.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Of course.
MS. NICOLA: Okay.
MR. MARINO: You know, I have something else to say. I used
to own a club before.
$250 a day, I'll pay that any time if I got a cover charge and I've
got money rolling in the door. So you better put it the way you want it.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I don't think this place can afford 250 a day.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's only the first day.
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: Well, with the repeated violation
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Then it goes to -- we're going to
make the order. Then it goes to 500 a day. Tony, do you think they
can afford $500 a day?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Repeat violation, does that mean it has to
come back in front of us and we have to again --
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INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: I'm just thinking, if I find another
violation, I would bring them directly back to you guys and I'd ask for
the removal of their amplified sound permit. I'm not worried about the
fine --
MR. LEFEBVRE: What venue do you have to go in front of to
request their permit to be pulled? Who grants the permits?
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: I think Supervisor Letourneau
can speak on behalf of that, but I believe we come back to you guys for
that.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yes, I think we can put that in our
order. So we can say $250 the first violation, $500 subsequent
violation, and after the second violation we're going to request that the
amplified facilities be removed from the establishment. We can put
that in the order. I think if you show that to them, going back to what
Tony said, $250 may not scare them. $500, that's debatable. It's quite
expensive. But if they lose their ability to use an amplifier, I think that
would really be a problem for them.
So Jeff, did you try to sneak out on us?
SUPERVISOR LETOURNEAU: I did.
(Supervisor Letourneau was duly sworn.)
SUPERVISOR LETOURNEAU: The question was who would
we go to get the amplified permit? Well, that would be the zoning
department, that's who issues it.
I'd also like to point out that there's even stiffer penalties. Once
you remove the amplified sound permit, we could go -- and they do it
again, we could go in there with the Sheriffs Office and actually
confiscate their equipment at that point.
I think -- I've kind of been listening. I think that maybe -- I hate
to bring this up now since you guys have been debating this for so
long, but maybe we should ask for a civil penalty upfront and then, you
know, the abatement. And then in the future if they do it again, Patrick
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can come back here, get the second adjudication and then we would
ask the zoning department to -- I think they revoke the permit for a
year after the second adjudication.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I think by doing it the way we're
doing it, I think they're going to get an indication that we find this to be
a problem and that they need to turn down their equipment. If they
don't understand that after the first violation, the second violation
should show it. And if we show in the order that we are going to
request the zoning folks to revoke their amplified music ability, the
Board's power, if you will, is strong enough to have them do that. So I
think once they see that, they will adhere to the law. And that's all we
want them to do is to come into compliance. That's it.
SUPERVISOR LETOURNEAU: I guess if we do have a repeat
violation, we would ask for a civil penalty upfront next time we bring
it back in here.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
Okay, so wording this. First violation, $250, giving them three
days. Court cost is $70 and change, I don't recall. $70.47. Whatever it
was on the --
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: $70.89.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: After a second violation, the Code
Enforcement Board is going to request the zoning folks to revoke their
amplified equipment permit.
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: Amplified music or sound
permit, yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's correct.
And we will get that order to you.
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: Can I interrupt you, sir?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Sure.
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: And also we'd like to add on a
civil penalty for the next time they violate the noise ordinance.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I don't really think that's necessary. I
think this should do it. If you can get these orders, I'll sign it on Friday
MS. NICOLA: I'll have them done by Thursday. I won't be here
Friday. I can get this one done today. As long as we're not here all
day.
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: County offices are closed on
Friday.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hold on, one person talk at a time.
Go ahead.
MS. NICOLA: I said I could probably get this particular one
done today.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, if you get this one done today
and we can get it to you, how do we -- I'll sign it, then I'll go up there
and make noise. No.
MS. NICOLA: We could email you a copy of it that you could
deliver to the establishment.
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: Excellent.
MS. NICOLA: If you give me your email.
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: Right now?
MS. NICOLA: Or whenever.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Is the owner local?
MS. NICOLA: Or come over here and give it to me.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Is the owner local?
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: The owner lives in Marco Island,
yes.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Because I think he should have -- since it's
going to be --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: They should be aware of it.
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: Yes, yes.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Correct.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, that's who we have to notify is
the owner, the property owner. The proprietor of the business, you're
just going to show him a copy of that as --
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: A courtesy.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- a courtesy, but the portion that has
to do with removing the permit for the amplified music, I think it will
affect him directly. So probably he should be given a copy of the order
as well.
Do you agree with that, Tammy?
MS. NICOLA: I would agree with that.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah.
INVESTIGATOR BALDWIN: My email is
PatrickBaldwin @Colliergov.net.
MS. NICOLA: Okay, got it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. We'll get it to you sometime
today and you can hand carry it to them in time for their 4th of July
celebration.
So we have a motion. Do we have a second?
MR. LAVINSKI: Whatever the motion is.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Only person than knows is Cherie'.
All those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
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MR. LEFEBVRE: Time for a break.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And with that, we're going to take an
eight-minute break.
(Recess.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I'd like to call the Code Enforcement
Board back to order.
Okay, that takes care of that case.
Moving right along.
MS. ADAMS: The next case --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Michaelle?
MS. ADAMS: The next case is Number Four from hearings, Tab
4, Case CEVR20140018858, Michael T. Johnson and Lori R. Johnson.
(Mr. Johnson and Investigator Crowley were duly sworn.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good morning.
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: Good morning. For the record,
Michaelle Crowley, Collier County Code Enforcement Environment
Specialist.
This is in reference to Case No. CEVR20140018858 dealing with
violations of removal of native and non-native vegetation by heavy
machinery without required Collier County vegetation removal permit,
placement of lime rock fill and mulch shipped material on cleared site
without required county permit or authorization, and excavation of
existing ground material to a depth greater than three feet over a large
portion of the property, then replacement of the removed material with
dirty fill brought in from outside without required county permit or
authorization.
The parcel is located on Crawford Avenue. The property has no
site address, but is west of and adjacent to the owners' residence at
2220 Crawford Avenue. Folio No. 00341440002.
Posting of the Notice of Violation on the property and at the
courthouse was perfected on February 2nd, 2015, and drop service was
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also perfected on February 2nd, 2015.
Certified mail service came back unclaimed.
I would now like to present case evidence on the following
exhibits: Three photographs taken by me on September 26th, 2014,
one photograph taken by me on January the 8th, 2015, and 16 aerial
photos from the Property Appraiser's website showing the progression
of the vegetative clearing.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, has the respondent seen the --
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: He has.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Do you have any objection?
MR. JOHNSON: No.
MR. LAVINSKI: Motion to accept the photos.
MR. ASHTON: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second to
accept the photos.
All those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: Thank you.
Code Enforcement received a complaint alleging the property
owner was digging and screening dirt from the property and also
selling the excavated dirt.
My site visit on September 26th, 2014 revealed a five-acre parcel
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virtually cleared of all vegetation except around the outer perimeter
and the presence of three dump trucks transporting the dirt. Those
were shown on the first photograph. The existence of multiple deep
holes in the ground that contained water and fill, some of which
consisted of litter and trash-like paper and plastics and two very long
piles of dirt taller than 12 feet.
A man drove from the back of the property to where I had
stopped at the entrance gate and identified himself as the owner, Mr.
Johnson, who is here.
I explained why I was there and asked what was going on. He
said he planned on putting in a plant nursery and that he had to bring in
fill to raise the elevation so that the plants didn't have soggy roots. He
denied selling the dirt but said he was trading the dirt for stabilizer lime
rock fill from a friend that he was going to place on top to raise the
elevation three inches to protect the plants.
Mr. Johnson invited me to get into his vehicle where he drove me
approximately halfway back on the parcel, and that was where I took
the photographs.
No, do the first three again. I'll explain them.
So the first photograph is what is visible from the roadway. I'm in
Mr. Johnson's vehicle at the time; it was taken from his truck. And the
three dump trucks are visible in the back, and the heavy machinery is
there and to the right.
Okay, the next picture.
We are stopped and now approximately halfway back on the
property. And this is the first, which would be the northernmost, of the
long piles of dirt that had apparently been excavated from the large
trenches that were parallel with the piles of dirt. So you can see the
trash from the heavy equipment. And it's a very dark picture. It had
rained earlier that day and it was still going to rain, so I apologize for
the clarity, but that's what you see.
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And then the third picture was also taken while I was in Mr.
Johnson's presence. And this shows the first of the filled with water
stabilizer and then you can see some floating trash material, papers and
plastic on the top. And there's one of the 12-foot-high piles of dirt.
You can just leave that on for now, if you want.
We were continuing to talk about what his plans were. I was just
trying to find out some facts about what had taken place on the
property. He indicated that he wanted to find another source of work
besides a painting business that apparently there is a home occupation
from that location. I began to explain that county --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Home occupation from the dwelling
that's adjacent to this property?
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: Correct. His home, which is
immediately to the left as you're looking at this property, which would
be to the east.
I began to explain that county approval was needed, and at that
time he became more reluctant to speak with me. He agreed not to dig
another shovelful until he figured what needed to be done to satisfy the
county.
He then drove me back to my vehicle and said code enforcement
had enough photos with the person who was there the day before.
Which was news to me to find out that another investigator had been
out there the day before on a second complaint dealing with the same
alleged violation.
I determined that Investigator Christopher Ambach had been out
there the day before, along with contractors licensing.
As part of his case investigation Mr. Ambach obtained a
determination from the Planning Review Department about the
screening of the dirty fill, which he had also observed the day before.
The determination from the planning department was that, quote,
the collection of dirty lime rock and soil that includes garbage which is
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processed to filter out the garbage is a type of resource recovery and
recycling. The Agricultural Zoning District requires a Conditional Use
to permit a collection and transfer site for resource recovery. The
on-site activities described do not appear to be accessory to an
approved permitted agricultural use, which is also a violation.
However,the property owner can wholesale the dirt as part of a
wholesale plant nursery while the retail sale of soil and plants requires
a Conditional Use. And that determination was made by Mr. Ray
Bellows, Comprehensive Planning Manager.
By the time of my subsequent site visit on January the 8th, the dirt
piles were gone.
This is a photograph that I took on January the 8th. The dirt piles
are now gone. What is in place of it, however, are piles of mulch
approximately 15 feet tall. Again, stretching in the same location
where the dirt had been -- presumably the dirt had either been sold or
pushed back onto -- into the excavations that had already existed when
I was there back in September.
Further research and consultation with environmental review staff
found that this property is within the rural fringe sending lands area,
specifically to protect and preserve natural resources and providing for
large areas of open space.
In short, effective in 2002 with the adoption of the Rural Fringe
Sending Lands, this property would allow the owner to clear only up to
20 percent of the parcel and would require that 80 percent of the parcel
remain forested with natural vegetation.
The clearing for a driveway access road and a metal building that
is now on the property that now exists constitutes that 20 percent.
An after-the-fact exotic vegetation removal permit would need to
be obtained to get approval for that 20 percent of clearing that would
be allowed under the rural sending lands for the driveway and the
building; however, nothing would allow further clearing of the
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additional 80 percent such as exists now unless and until the owner
would obtain a Conditional Use for something that the county would
approve of or another authorization.
If a Conditional Use or other official county approval cannot be
obtained, the owner would be required to hire an environmental
consultant to prepare and submit a mitigation plan to restore the
vegetation that was removed.
I'm now going to show, this is the history of the Property
Appraiser's aerials showing what the property looked like.
The yellow box indicates the five-acre parcel in question. This is
what it looked like in 1985. It appears to have just a horse trail or
some kind of manmade path from north to south.
And then these are just going to be a series of follow-ups. In
1995 there's a slightly larger path. The house to the right of the picture
is the home that Mr. Johnson lives on, on Crawford.
This next aerial is in 2002. Mr. and Mrs. Johnson purchased the
property, both properties in 2001. So this was a year after they had
purchased it. The home is there on the right. And there's now
additional clearing that's starting to take place along the left edge of the
parcel.
2003. Again it's still almost completely vegetated except for
those openings to the left.
2004. This is when there starts to appear to be some things
missing from the center of the property.
2005. There's been additional clearing, additional trails,
pathways.
2006. There's now a distinct driveway along with some
equipment or storage containers that are now stored on the property.
2007. Again the cleared space is getting larger.
2008. Now you can start seeing that the canopy is missing, that
the actual trees have been removed along the outer portions on either
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side of the driveway.
Again, there's further clearing. And now it appears to be devoid
of green vegetation in the entire, I'd say, the rear three acres of the
parcel.
2010. Again, the only vegetation exists on that very perimeter
and a small cluster in the front closest to Crawford Avenue, which is at
the top of the page.
2011. This is when we start seeing additional items being placed
upon the property, which Mr. Johnson tells me today were -- what do
you call them?
MR. JOHNSON: They're empty containers.
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: Yeah, storage containers that he
was allowing a friend to store there.
MR. JOHNSON: Yahl Mulching was building their new plant
and they didn't have enough room to store their containers, and they
asked me if they could put them there while they were building. And I
let them do it, because she helps us with the roads and everything out
there all the time, so I was just being a neighbor, you know.
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: 2012. The containers are still
on-site. Some had been moved. They're not all there.
2013. The containers are mostly gone, the road is more
pronounced, and you're starting to see at the end that's where the
building will be placed.
2014. The white colored pad at the bottom center of the picture is
where the building will become, or will be situated. And again, there's
just no vegetation except on the outer perimeters.
And this is the most recent, 2015. This aerial actually shows the
two parallel rows of the dirt and/or the mulch, depending upon when
the picture was taken. The excavated area was in the center between
the piles. And that was where we stopped and where I took my
photographs.
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So this is pretty much how it exists now. The mulch has been
removed. It is no longer there. So the area is now flat. Mr. Johnson
has planted I think three oak trees --
MR. JOHNSON: There's five oaks.
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: Five oaks in the front along
Crawford Avenue. But that is the only revegetation that has occurred.
And that's how it exists now and the violations remain as of today.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Mr. Johnson?
MR. JOHNSON: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Why don't you let us know what is
occurring on that property.
MR. JOHNSON: I'm -- basically I have -- I'm getting older and I
want to, you know, raise some animals and maybe put a nursery in,
you know, do something. Because to be honest with you, a year ago I
was crippled, I was paralyzed on my right side and I realize that I'm
not going to be able to paint the rest of my life. I can't climb ladders
no more. So I basically want to do something on my property.
Well, I was told, and evidently I was told wrong, that it being an
agricultural land, that I could clear it and not have to have a permit,
beings I was not, you know, making a business out there. And so I did
it.
And I'm guilty as hell. I mean, what do you -- I did it, I cleared
the land. I didn't know I needed a permit. And, you know, now I
know I need a permit. They asked me not to dig. I filled it in. I did
everything they asked me to. The only thing I need to know is what
they want me to get as a permit and I'll take care of that.
MR. LEFEBVRE: What fill did you use?
MR. JOHNSON: I put the fill back in that was there.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Was it the fill that you brought on-site with all
the plastics and everything?
MR. JOHNSON: They were -- that was probably 10 loads,
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maybe 20 loads.
I know that, Lori, I know.
That was just some cups and papers and stuff. And I cleaned that
out. I got two guys in there with a dead net, we cleaned it all out, put it
in trash cans and I put it up at the road and the trash man come and got
it. And that's the God's honest truth. I don't know what to say, you
know.
And I filled it back in with dirt. The dirt that was there, I mean,
I'll show you, I've got a picture on my phone with where the dirt is and
what dirt I put in it, you know.
They asked me to fill it back in, I filled it back in. The licensing
and permitting gentleman called me on the phone, asked me if I would
fill it back in, I said no problem. I filled it back in. And he told me, all
right it's closed, I won't be bothering you no more.
And then Ms. Crowley come back and says that I was still in
violation because I cleared the vegetation without a permit. And so I
guess I'm still in violation, you know, even though I tried to correct it,
you know.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You're not in violation until we say
you're in violation. We have to vote on that.
But you're saying that you were in violation, so why don't we --
MR. JOHNSON: I guess so. I mean, I don't know what to say. I
mean, I did do it, but I didn't do it with intent of doing anything wrong,
you know.
And I did trade 10 loads of dirt for 10 loads of lime rock. And
that's what she seen the trucks doing. And that's the truth. I mean, I
can't do -- tell you nothing other than that, you know.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I make a motion a violation does exist.
MR. LAVINSKI: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second that
a violation exists.
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Any discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, all those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
Yep, you're in violation. Okay.
Now, Michaelle, have you discussed with Mr. Johnson what
needs to be done to resolve this situation?
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: To some extent. A lot of it
depends on what he ultimately wants to do with his property. You
know, I could tell him you could do this, but if that turns out not what
he wants to do -- I've met with Mr. Johnson multiple times, other staff
from code enforcement has met with him and other representatives
who are trying to work with him to trying to resolve it. I know he's at
this point pursuing a possible -- he's applied for an ag. exemption from
the Tax Collector, but that won't be effective until January of next year.
But that doesn't resolve the clearing violation that has occurred.
Because it's a part of the rural sending lands and legally under the
ordinances he cannot remove more than 20 percent of the vegetation.
So, you know, one resolution to satisfy or to allow the 20 percent
removal for the driveway and for that building in the back is to get an
after-the-fact exotic vegetation removal permit. But that still leaves us
with the additional 80 percent of the five-acre parcel that is cleared of
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all vegetation, including natives. There was considerable Brazilian
pepper, there's a lot of that in the ag. lands. But it's also a cypress area.
There are still I believe one or two cypress trees standing in the front
that are very visible. And that is indicative of his indication why he
wanted to bring in the fill, because the water level -- the ground was
too low to support the plants at its natural elevation.
MR. JOHNSON: Excuse me, you can go look right now on
either pieces of property on either side of me, 90 percent of it is pine
trees. There are cypress trees. I can go anywhere in Naples, Florida
and show you cypress trees. And I didn't take out the cypress trees. I
actually like them. The majority of the trees I did take out were dead
pine trees. I had mules in there and they stomped the roots on those
pine trees. And I'll show you on any place that you want to go where
they have animals, animals when they stomp the roots of the pines they
get bore bugs in them and the trees will die. And I had a ton of dead
pine trees over there. Which I should have took them out with a chain
saw but I didn't know that, I took them out with a machine.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: No, I understand. Right now you're
in violation and you're asking what can I do to make this all go away.
MR. JOHNSON: Right.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And that's what I'm asking, because I
don't know yet what can be done to make this go away.
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: I'm not sure that it can go away.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Right.
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: There are other avenues, for
instance, like a Conditional Use as a plant nursery, for instance. That's
one of his options. But he's got to apply for it, he's got to go through
the review process, satisfy the other end of the building, the
environmental review and the planning services people, so that they
can give the authorization for whatever it is he wants to do.
At one point when we first were on-site, it appeared as if that's
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what it was, it was going to be some kind of a recycling station, that he
was -- he had a screener on, and there was a screener there to remove --
pull out some of the litter. And that's why the determination was given
by the planning department that a recycle transfer station would also
require a Conditional Use.
But I guess -- I can't tell him what he wants to do with his
property. He has to either put it in use where he can do what he has
done on the property and get it approved and signed off by everybody
in the county who needs to or, and this is an expensive proposition, he
has to do a mitigation plan and revegetate 80 percent of the property,
as well as get the after-the-fact vegetation removal permit for the
driveway and the pad for the building.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, so it seems that in order for
you to do what the county would like, the first thing you have to do is
decide what you want to do, given the options that have been
discussed.
MR. JOHNSON: Right.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So I ask, what's the most palatable
solution?
MRS. JOHNSON: We have a gentleman --
MR. JOHNSON: Mr. Ramsey and I was talking, I'm going to
actually raise some goats. And he'll explain to you --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, why don't you swear him in.
MR. RAMSEY: Good morning, board members. My name --
(Mr. Ramsey was duly sworn.)
MR. RAMSEY: Good morning. My name is Michael R.
Ramsey. I'm the President of Ramsey, Inc. I'm an Ecological and
Environmental Consultant.
Mr. Johnson and his wife have contracted me to help him assist
with the situation to come up with solutions and options.
And on the property they're on, the only options that they do have
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that he'd like to -- that we've been talking about that he would like to
pursue, under the rules in the LDC for sending lands there is an
agricultural option that you could clear the entire property if you agree
to engage in a 25-year agreement if you go into a bona fide agricultural
operation.
And so discussions with Mr. Johnson, he's indicated that he
would like to pursue going into grazing of livestock that is deserving of
agricultural exemption, and they would like to pursue that option.
And there is provisions within the LDC in the operations to allow
for that. And I think we would -- he has indicated he'd like to pursue
that. Because the agricultural area out there, it's kind of confusing
what you can and can't do. There's a whole lot of rules and
regulations, and probably some misinformation being spread out there.
So in our conversations I try to make it clear that where he's at
right now, this would be probably the best solution for him, to pursue
the grazing.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. And what would that require
as far as the violations concerned to abate it?
MR. RAMSEY: My understanding of the LDC and the rules
involved with it, if he wants to pursue that, the first thing he'd have to
agree is to the 25-year agreement with the county. That would allow
him to then pursue a vegetative clearing option with agricultural
exemption. And he'd have to stay in that for 25 years. If he didn't, he'd
have to restore it back to its initial natural condition. And he would --
he's already approached the Property Appraiser about his proposal.
The way the Property Appraiser works, the ag. representative comes
out, he reviews the property, he looks at what he wants to do. If it's
deserving, the next following year he is deserving of ag. exemption on
that property, which is a confirmation of the activity.
And only certain activities are deserving of ag. exemption, and
this would be one.
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So it would take until next January 1st to be deserving of the ag.
exemption. From now 'til that point he'd have to undertake all the
activities to acquire the permits necessary, get the vegetation clearing
permit, sign the agreement and then acquire the animals to begin the
activity.
MR. JOHNSON: I've already bought two.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Why don't you come up to the mic.
MR. JOHNSON: I've already purchased two of the goats.
They've just been born, but I can't get them for another two months.
They won't separate them from the mother and stuff for 12 weeks. So
I got two months to wait to get the two goats.
And then I would like to say start building a pen on there, but I
don't know what to do because anything I do, it seems that it's wrong.
So, I mean, I asked Ms. Crowley if I could build a pen for my goats
and she says I don't know.
I mean, I ask people things and I get an answer that I don't know,
you'll have to look into that. So I tried looking into it and I'm getting
nowhere with an answer. But I would really like to have the -- if I
want to take and have animals, I want them taken well care of I want
to have a pen. I don't want panthers coming and eating my animals
that I spend time and money on to raise, me and my grandson, and they
be eaten by a panther. So I've got to build a fence up high enough for
them not to be able to eat my goats.
But yet I don't know if I can or not, you know. I don't get an
answer to do anything, so -- I do want to raise the goats and let this
thing go away. Like I say, I never did it with any intentions of doing
anything wrong, so, you know.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Michaelle, based on what we're
hearing, if that's a direction that Mr. Johnson wants to go in, what
would need to be done to have that work out from the county's
perspective?
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INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: He's taken the first step. He --
on one of the times that I was on-site, he handed me one of the signed
copies that he had gotten of his application for the ag. exemption from
the Tax Collector. So he gave me a copy of that.
He has to satisfy the other end of the building. Now, he did ask
me, could he put rolling goat pens on the property. You know, I don't
know, I'm not the one who makes that decision. That would be the
permitting department. Fences would have to have a permit.
So there's a lot of staff on the other side of our building that he's
going to have to meet with and follow through with what -- he's
actually met with at least two of them already. That was several
months ago. But he's got to follow through with it, you know, and
work with a consultant that maybe he's got one of-- Mr. Ramsey can
do it and help assist him. You know, I can't answer all of his questions
because, you know, code enforcement is the enforcement arm, we
don't issue the permits. So what the requirements --
MR. JOHNSON: I stopped getting the per --
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: -- are, I'm not sure.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, one at a time.
MR. JOHNSON: I stopped with applying for the permit for the
fact is I got a notice to come to a hearing. So I never followed through
with anything because I didn't know what was going to happen and
where I would be having to spend the money.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So one of the things that you need --
I'm trying to cut through whatever I can, not an easy chore -- is you
need some time to do what Mr. Ramsey has earmarked. You would
need some time to do that.
MR. JOHNSON: I have no issues -- excuse me, I have no issues
of going down and getting that after-the-fact permit at all. I have none.
But I just didn't do it. I stopped doing it because I didn't know what
was going to happen in here, what I had to do in here.
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I will follow through with that, I'll go down and get the permit
next week, you know. That's not a problem.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I don't know how much time this
would require. I mean, obviously this would bring us into January, if
he is granted the exemption. It would bring us into January of next
year; is that correct?
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: Correct. He would also -- yeah,
for the ag. exemption.
With regard to the 25-year contract with the county, I've seen
those, the other end of the building does issue those, but he has to
commit to doing I believe a commercial ag. use. It cannot be private
agricultural use like having five pet goats on there. That's not going to
do it. It has to be a commercial ag. use. And he has to work with
representatives from the planning review services side as to what he
needs to do or what his commitment is so that he knows if he deviates
from that within that 25 years then he's violated the terms of that
agreement.
MR. RAMSEY: If I might add, I work a lot with agriculture in
this issue. The property appraiser is a representative of the Department
of Revenue comes out and inspects operations for agricultural. They
only afford an agricultural exemption for a bona fide commercial ag.
product that produces an income and revenue.
For instance, in Hendry County you can get an ag. exemption for
timber production, but you can't in Collier, because they don't allow it.
So when the ag. appraiser goes out and looks at the property and he
looks at the animals intended to be used, he makes a determination if
they're going to produce revenue. In this case goats and cattle will
produce that. And it's been done before.
In regards to agriculture, generally agriculture has been deemed
not to be -- not to have to be permitted. It is a right to do agriculture on
your property. The county's been through this issue before. So
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agriculture is a right of the landowner. But he does have to undertake
certain steps to perfect that activity. He has to agree to a vegetation
clearing, he has to agree to a 25-year commitment. And when the
representative from the Property Appraiser comes out and confirms
that he's done a bona fide ag. operation, that is an outside confirmation
of that activity.
So everything we're talking about has been done and can be done.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So it appears that the most
viable option for Mr. Johnson is to go down that route. Not three
goats, it will be more than three goats to be a commercial venture.
And based on what Mr. Ramsey has just said, are you agreeing to do
all of those things?
MR. JOHNSON: I have no issue with that at all. I have a
two-year-old grandson and I want him in 4-H, and that will be a
perfect way for him to get into that. I don't want him out here in the
street running around causing trouble. I want to raise him properly. I
help my daughter and son-in-law with him. They live with us. And, I
mean, that's why I live where I live. You know, I don't bother nobody
out there, you know.
And if you go around Naples and look at the places that are 10
times worse than mine, especially in my neighborhood, but nothing
gets said about it. The only reason why this is here is because
someone made a complaint on me. Otherwise I wouldn't even be here.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, well --
MR. JOHNSON: But I will do it. I will agree to the solution. I
mean, I have no issues with that. And I told her that. I want to resolve
it. I want it done and over with.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, so what we need from the
board is to come up with an idea of how much time would be required
to do this.
Michaelle, do you have a suggestion for us, by the way?
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INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: I do have a recommendation.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That will be --
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: It doesn't, however, include a
time frame, but --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: Recommendation: That the
Code Enforcement Board orders the respondent to pay all operational
costs in the amount of$66.69 incurred in the prosecution of this case
within 30 days and abate all violations within "blank" days of this
hearing or a fine of "blank" per day per violation to be imposed until
the violations are abated by:
Number one: Ceasing all land clearing, excavation and/or landfill
operations and preparing and submitting a mitigation plan which meets
the criteria pursuant to the Collier County Land Development Code,
Section 10.02.06(E)(3), and obtain approval of said and complete the
installation of required plan.
The mitigation plan shall be prepared by a person who meets or
exceeds the credentials specified in Section 3.05.07(H) or Chapter 7 of
the Administrative Code. Or the owner must obtain any and all
applicable permits to include vegetation removal or vegetation removal
and landfill permits pursuant to Ordinance 04-41, as amended, Section
10.02.06(B)(1)(a) that may allow this vegetation removal.
If removal permits cannot be obtained, the native vegetation must
be restored or replaced as above described.
Number two: Must obtain any required excavation permit from
the Growth Management Department and comply with all excavation
requirements of the Code of Laws, Chapter 22, Article IV, Sections
22-106 through 22-120, or must cease all excavation activity
immediately until such activities are approved under a valid permit.
Any unpermitted fill material, including but not limited to mulch
and stabilizer must be removed from the site.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So what I'm looking at is the
beginning of one probably won't happen. That would be extremely
expensive mitigation.
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: It would be very expensive.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Plant all of the dead pines back, et
cetera.
Probably the second part after the word "or" to get all applicable
permits to qualify the property as a commercial -- what Mr. Ramsey
said.
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: Agricultural use.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Agricultural use.
That seems to be the way that Mr. Johnson is leaning.
And to do that he would probably need sufficient time to bring
him past, we wouldn't know if that was agreed to until after January or
-- I don't know exactly when they would make that determination. Is it
the first of the year or is it subsequent to that?
MR. JOHNSON: It's the first of the year.
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: First of the year.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It is the first of the year? Okay, so --
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: The application is actually
already dated January 1 of 2016 and signed off by the representative.
So post -- they date them ahead.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So if anybody would like to
take a shot at this? If not, I'll try something.
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: I just wanted to make sure that
one of the things that he needs to do is he and any representatives need
to meet with county staff between now and January 1st so that
everything's in order, he knows what he needs to do. You know,
perhaps they've even executed and they have a provisional agreement,
the 25-year agreement. He just needs to meet with the other end of
Growth Management to make sure that what needs to be done is being
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done, and if there's any obstacles we'll know about them before
January the 1st.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Mr. Johnson, do you have a problem
meeting with the county --
MR. JOHNSON: No.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, we're going to make that part
of the order.
So filling in the blanks and adding some language, 66.69 incurred
in the prosecution of the case within 30 days.
Now, the time limit to get everything done? Probably the
meeting would -- the meeting where the exemption would be granted
will be January 1st, so it would be our January, 2016 meeting date
would be the date that I would put in there. Or a fine of$100 a day
imposed after that.
So let me just do a quick review.
The respondent will meet with the county to determine what is
required for the exemption and follow through on that with the 25-year
agreement. And that should occur within the next 120 days.
And then should follow up with the required paperwork and
permits to bring the property into compliance by -- I don't know what
our January --
MS. NICOLA: 28th.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: January 28th meeting date would be.
Fines would be $100 a day after January 28th.
MR. MARINO: 2016.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: 2016. 2015 has come and gone,
January. I don't know if you noticed that. But I have a calendar back
here for you.
Okay, have I missed anything?
MR. ASHTON: Mr. Chairman?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yes.
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MR. ASHTON: Is he going to be allowed to bring the goats and
all in there even though he doesn't have all the permits or anything?
MR. JOHNSON: I don't know what to do.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I would think that he could probably
-- if he's talking about two goats right now, he could have that on his
own property. He doesn't need anything for that out there. Is that
correct, Michaelle?
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: I belie-- I haven't researched his
adjacent parcel, but I believe it's also zoned ag. and there are allowed
uses for animals, yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. RAMSEY: Just to help with that answer, sir, the Property
Appraiser, he likes -- the way they operate is they want you to prepare
the property, get it ready and bring animals on there to show and
provide evidence so that when he comes out there in January he wants
to see them, he wants to see activity in evidence. So yes, he would like
for you -- they want you to go ahead and get them on there.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Well, you're going to meet
with the county and go over that in the next 120 days to see what's
required. And Mr. Johnson, you'll be able to do all of that?
MR. JOHNSON: I'll do my best. I've been trying to do
everything to cooperate anyway.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So I think unless there are
any other questions from the board on that I'm looking for a second.
MR. MARINO: I'll second that.
MR. LAVINSKI: Michaelle, has this last four-minute
dissertation by our Chairman, has that solved the issues that may have
brought up by the original complaints?
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: It has. The original complaints
primarily were excavating dirt and selling it. And I believe that that
was also the complaint that had gone to Mr. Ambach who at that time
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was the area investigator. When I met with Mr. Johnson and
explained, you know, that we had gotten a complaint about this
activity, he indicated that he believed it was somebody who had asked
to buy some of his dirt and he turned him down. Whether that
happened or not, I don't know, but he was excavating -- some of the
dirt was being hauled off and that's what was going on when I was
there.
MR. LAVINSKI: Okay. So if he ceases and desists that --
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: He has ceased and desisted.
MR. LAVINSKI: -- we've satisfied his original --
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: That is correct, he did that
almost immediately.
MR. LAVINSKI: Okay.
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: It was at that point that whoever
I saw that the acreage had been cleared, that's why my case kind of
waited for Mr. Ambach's determination to see was he going to put it
into a legitimate permitted use that would have allowed the clearing.
And when that didn't take place, then that's when I had to serve my
notice for the vegetation.
MR. JOHNSON: Excuse me, he asked me to fill it in and I said I
had had no problems with that.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Let me get the vote on this done so
we know where we are.
Any other comments from the board?
MR. LAVINSKI: I just want to see if he's going to get the goats
and that that he doesn't continue another violation by bringing two
goats on that parcel if he's not allowed to do that. Now we got another
citation.
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: To my knowledge he can use
animals on that property.
MR. LAVINSKI: On that --
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INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: They're not going to clear
anymore vegetation that's already gone.
MR. LAVINSKI: Okay. Yeah, I just hate to see him go further
down the rat hole.
MR. RAMSEY: Just to confirm your question on that. Ag.
zoned property, you're allowed to do any agricultural activity without a
permit.
MR. LAVINSKI: Whether you have buildings or not.
MR. RAMSEY: That's a different issue. That's different. But
bringing animals, code enforcement even in the Estates and ag. zoned
property, you can have animals out there without permits. But Estates
zoning, you have a limit per acre. But on ag. you don't. Depends on
the zoning.
MR. LAVINSKI: How's he going to get his fences and the shed
to keep these little goats from becoming supper?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Those are other permits.
MR. RAMSEY: That's a fencing permit. The county does that
regularly. And then once you have ag. zoned property and you have a
legitimate ag. activity, you can have accessory structures to support
that ag. activity.
And actually with ag. zoned property you don't have to have a
permit for a building.
MR. LAVINSKI: That's interesting.
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: There are certain conditions. It
can't have electric, you know, there's -- and I've never been inside the
building, I don't have if it has electric or not.
MR. LEFEBVRE: The other question I have --
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: That's not part of my case.
MR. LEFEBVRE: You said there's accessory buildings that you
can have.
MR. JOHNSON: Yes, sir.
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MR. LEFEBVRE: You do not have to have a primary structure
on this property, correct, like a residence?
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: That is correct.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Okay, so you can have these structures
without being --
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: I'm not going to commitment to
-- though building that's in the back now, I'm calling it a pole barn. I
don't know what else to call it.
MR. JOHNSON: It's a shed. It is a metal shed.
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: It's a large metal shed.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Mr. Chairman, call the question, please.
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: I haven't inspected to tell if it's
legal or not.
MR. JOHNSON: Well, you're more than welcome, Ms. Crowley.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN. Okay.
MR. JOHNSON: In fact, there's no power on the property
whatsoever, no plumbing, nothing.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Call the question.
All those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
So hopefully you'll get everything done, you'll meet with the
county in the next 120 days and then they'll guide you to wherever you
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want to go, and hopefully in January you'll have a whole bunch of
goats there running around taking care of the property. Thank you
very much.
MR. JOHNSON: Thank you.
INVESTIGATOR CROWLEY: Thank you.
MR. RAMSEY: Thank you for your time. That was interesting.
MR. LAVINSKI: Yeah, from this side too.
MS. ADAMS: The next case is Number Six from hearings, Tab
6, Case CESD20140017065, Davis Crossing VIII, LLC.
(Investigator Ford was duly sworn.)
INVESTIGATOR FORD: Good morning.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good morning.
INVESTIGATOR FORD: For the record, Arthur Ford, Collier
County Code Enforcement.
This is in reference to Case Number CESD20140017065, dealing
with violation of building and land alteration permits, Collier County
Land Development Code 01-41, as amended, Section
10.02.06(B)(1)(A).
Permit 2009120450 expired without inspections and certificate of
completion/occupancy.
Located at 8770 Davis Boulevard, Naples, Florida, 34112. Folio
No. 34690080008.
Service was given December 29th, 2014.
I would now like to present case evidence in the following
exhibits: Permit 2006012408. Application date January 18, 2006.
Permit 2009120450, application date, December 9th, 2009. And
that's a reapplication.
Three photos of the structure taken on August 28th, 2014 by
Investigator Kincaid.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Is that it?
INVESTIGATOR FORD: That's it.
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MR. LAVINSKI: Motion to accept the exhibits.
MR. ASHTON: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and second to
accept.
All those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
INVESTIGATOR FORD: On January 8, 2006 a permit
application was made by the Benderson Development Company, LLC,
owners of Davis Crossings VIII, LLC.
On October 4th, 2007, Permit 2006012408 was issued for
commercial businesses, one-story retail shell building.
On December 9th, 2009 a reapplication was applied for by the
same company for the same site development as previous permit.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Let me stop you one second. 2006,
is that the permit we have in front of us? It is. And either my eyes are
going or it looks real blurry to me. This was a permit for what?
INVESTIGATOR FORD: The commercial businesses, one-story
retail shell building.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. And then in 2007?
INVESTIGATOR FORD: That was issued.
MR. LEFEBVRE: It was reissued.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Reissued in 2007, okay.
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INVESTIGATOR FORD: No, it was reissued -- actually a re-app
was done in 2009 for that 2006 permit which expired.
Where was I?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: 2009.
INVESTIGATOR FORD: Okay. All right, 2009, December 9th,
2009 reapplication was applied for by the same company for the same
site development as the previous permit.
On July 1st of 2010 permit 2009120450 was issued. A two-year
extension was granted December 14th, 2012 with an expiration of
February 9th, 2015 for that 2009 permit.
On February 9th, 2015 another 90-day extension was granted
with a new expiration of May 11th, 2015 which expired without
inspections and/or certificate of completion or occupancy. To date the
violation exists.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So you have pictures also.
INVESTIGATOR FORD: I believe the Board's aware of this
property.
MR. LEFEBVRE: It's on the corner of Davis and --
INVESTIGATOR FORD: 951.
MR. LEFEBVRE: -- 951. Southwest corner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's one, two -- it's a big project.
INVESTIGATOR FORD: Sure is.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I can't believe it's taken --
INVESTIGATOR FORD: Seven or eight-year project in the
making.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: What has the respondent said on
this?
INVESTIGATOR FORD: Well, it appears to me -- I'm one of
several investigators that have had it through the years, and it appears
to me the only real time they're interested in doing something with the
property is when their permit's about to expire. I haven't seen a piece
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of construction equipment on that place in four years, so -- and they're
not here today.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: When was the last time you had
contact with them? Jeff knows.
INVESTIGATOR FORD: I have Supervisor Letourneau up here.
(Supervisor Letourneau was duly sworn.)
SUPERVISOR LETOURNEAU: For the record, Jeff
Letourneau, Collier County Code Enforcement.
I actually was on the phone with the attorney for the company
probably a half an hour ago, and I explained the situation to him. I told
him that if they -- they're trying to get an engineer right now to say that
the existing structure is viable to continue the work on it. That's what
their goal is, to get the permit reissued. But the chief building official,
Jonathan Walsh, has told them that they need to get an engineer to sign
off on what's there because of the weathering and what else went on in
the last five years. So they're well aware that the hearing's going on
right now, because I was on the phone with them a half an hour ago.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So Board, does a violation
exist?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Make a motion that a violation exists.
MR. LAVINSKI: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second that
a violation does exist.
All those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
Do you have a suggestion for us, Art?
INVESTIGATOR FORD: Yes, sir. That the Code Enforcement
Board orders the respondent to pay all operational costs in the amount
of$65.85 incurred in the prosecution of this case within 30 days and
abate all violations by:
One: Obtaining all required Collier County building permits or
demolition permit, inspections and certificate of completion/occupancy
within "blank" days of this hearing or a fine of"blank" per day will be
imposed until the violation is abated.
Two: Respondent must notify the code enforcement investigator
when the violation has been abated in order to conduct a final
inspection to confirm abatement.
If the respondent fails to abate the violation, the county may abate
the violation using any method to bring the violation into compliance
and may use the assistance of the Collier County Sheriffs Office to
enforce the provisions of this order, and all costs of abatement shall be
assessed to the property owner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, so the main thing we want to
see from a county perspective, from a board perspective, is that they
start --
INVESTIGATOR FORD: Do something with it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Do something with this place, build
it or tear it down, one of the two.
Now, they are going to get an engineer out there, according to
Jeff. That's a good start. Now, to do this order within blank days of
this hearing to get a CO, you're probably talking about well over a
year. You can't build a house in a year, so this thing will probably take
several years. So we need to have something, some sort of an order
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that shows that progress is being made on that product within so many
days, so it would probably be a two-part order, recommendation.
Comments from the board?
MR. LEFEBVRE: I agree with that totally. Because it seems like
they're waiting until the 1 l th hour, and in this case past the 11th hour.
We're here today and Jeff was on the phone with them. I think we do
need a tiered order stating that permits have to be submitted, maybe a
two or three tier, but it's going to take time for this to be completed.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, inspections have to occur. If
they redid the permit you have to do so many inspections in a given
period of time to know that progress is going on, otherwise the permit
also expires again.
MR. LEFEBVRE: If an inspection's done then a permit's good
for another six months, correct? So one inspection.
INVESTIGATOR FORD: It would be nice just for the residents
and visitors of Collier County to at least see some construction
equipment out there.
MR. LEFEBVRE: It's a very high profile corner. And with other
people -- with other developments going on to see this languish for as
long as I can remember driving by there is not a good impression upon
visitors and so forth.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: What was this going to be?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Strip retail.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Just a strip retail?
INVESTIGATOR FORD: A strip mall, you know, kind of shops
and things like that as far as I can tell from the construction.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Benderson owns multiple corners down there.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: They have a lot of money tied up in
this obviously and it's just sitting there.
So would someone like to take a shot at putting together a
two-tiered motion? Gerald?
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MR. LEFEBVRE: Seems like I'm getting all the complicated
ones.
I'll start it and Bob will finish it.
Just trying to think of what amount of time we'll need to be done
for permits to be submitted. Because the permits to be submitted is in
the control of the owner. How long it takes for review and everything
and changes or corrections is not.
MR. MARINO: Gerald, one of the permits, if you look at the
date, took one of them 10 months to get approved from the time it was
put in until the time it was actually approved.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Right. I'm sure it's probably some rejections
due to different things.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, the submittal is something that
can happen. You can have an engineer look at it, the engineer says the
steel's okay, the ground's okay, now we need to start the whole
process, submit a request for permits. That can occur in --
MR. LEFEBVRE: I think that should be -- if an engineer is
looking at the building, if it's found deemed to be suitable to move
forward, they should have the plans already with some modifications
probably to the new building code from when this was originally
designed to now, which would be pretty minor. So once it's deemed
that it's okay, we can go --
INVESTIGATOR FORD: That's providing an engineer will sign
off on the thing. It's been sitting out in the weather for seven --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, if they don't sign off on it, it
becomes easier. Then demolish it.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Right, right.
MR. LAVINSKI: So we could make that 60 days to get that
determination.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I think Mr. Lavinski should probably --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You want to try it?
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MR. LAVINSKI: Not really.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: If you want, I'll try it.
Okay, I give him 120 days to submit permits. And if they don't
submit a permit or permits in 120 days, $250 a day fine lien -- fine.
The $65.85 to be paid within 30 days. This is tier one.
Tier two, that they continue until completion. And completion
with a CO should occur within two years from today. I think that's
being fair. If not, $250 a day thereafter. Two years would be July of
'17, 2017.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: I'll second that motion.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Hold on, hold on. A section is not --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, go ahead, Gerald.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Regarding the demo, if the building is deemed
not to be able to be completed or move forward, then demo in what
period of time?
MR. LAVINSKI: Can't we make that part of the first phase so
that we don't give them 120 days to get an engineer to decide that the
thing is a bunch of junk.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah. They have to apply for a
permit, whether it's to complete the place or tear it down, in 120 days.
So we'll make that part of the motion. Apply for permits to continue
work on this project or if the engineer says that you can't solve -- save
the existing structure that a demo permit be pulled within 120 days or a
$250 fine.
MR. LAVINSKI: Yeah, that sounds better. As long as there's
some words in there that say that if it's a pile of junk, let's tear it down.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: I'll accept that amendment.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. The second accepts that. It's
an Erector set.
Okay, discussion on the motion?
MR. LEFEBVRE: I think two years is extensive. I think that's
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too long from today.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: To get at CO on that building?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: What would you suggest?
MR. LEFEBVRE: 18 months max.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You twisted my arm. 18 months.
I'll change it if the second will change it.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: I will accept the change.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Any other comments from
the board?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, all those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
Thanks, Art.
MR. LAVINSKI: Could we call that guy who made that Statute
of Liberty disappear to come down and do something to that building?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have to send him a subpoena.
MS. ADAMS: The next case is Number Seven from hearings,
Tab 7, CESD20150007433. Rick Lynn White and Victoria Jacob.
(Investigator Giannone was duly sworn.)
INVESTIGATOR GIANNONE: Good morning.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good morning.
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INVESTIGATOR GIANNONE: For the record, Joseph
Giannone, Collier County Code Enforcement. This is in reference to
Case Number CESD20150007433 dealing with the violations of the
Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended, Sections
10.02.06(B)(1)(a), and 10.02.06(B)(1)(e), an above ground pool
installed with a wooden deck without the proper Collier County
permits and inspections. Located at 2972 41st Street Southwest,
Naples Florida, 34116. Folio No. 36517680000.
Service was given on April 13th, 2015, on the date when the
proof of service was received.
I'd like to now present case evidence in the following exhibit: A
photo taken by Investigator John Connetta on April 13, 2014.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Was that your only piece or do you
have more?
INVESTIGATOR GIANNONE: I have two pictures, one taken
by myself today, and the one from Mr. Connetta.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, so you have two photos?
INVESTIGATOR GIANNONE: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, because we have to vote on it,
might as well combine them.
INVESTIGATOR GIANNONE: Sure.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. LAVINSKI: Motion to accept.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, we have a motion to accept.
MR. MARINO: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And a second. Cherie', pick your
choice.
All those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
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MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
Flowerpot.
INVESTIGATOR GIANNONE: That's the photo by Investigator
Connetta.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And this one was taken in April?
MS. GREEN: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Is there a fence around that? I don't
see it.
INVESTIGATOR GIANNONE: In the back there is.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
INVESTIGATOR GIANNONE: And that's the picture I took
yesterday myself, sir. And you see a deck in the foreground. Where
you see that chair? It's getting a little difficult to see, but that's the
deck that's of issue too.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Is anybody living at this residence?
INVESTIGATOR GIANNONE: No, sir. This is lis pendens.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Is this a safety hazard, do you think?
INVESTIGATOR GIANNONE: Is it what?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Probably not if it's four feet high.
Is it empty?
INVESTIGATOR GIANNONE: No, sir, I believe it's probably
about three feet full.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I think it's four feet. If it's more than
four feet, you don't need to fence it. But I may be wrong. My
insurance company said I can't even have that, so -- okay, any
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discussion from the board? Is this in violation?
MR. LAVINSKI: Make a motion a violation does exist.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and second a
violation exits. All those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
Do you have a suggestion for us, Joe?
INVESTIGATOR GIANNONE: Yes, sir.
Recommendation: That the Code Enforcement Board order
respondent to pay all operational costs of$65.01 incurred in the
prosecution of this case within 30 days and abate all violations by:
One: Obtaining all required Collier County building permits or
demo permit, inspections and certificate of completion/occupancy
within "X" amount of days of the hearing or a fine of "X" amount per
day will be imposed that until the violation is abated.
Two: The respondent must notify the code enforcement
investigator when the violation has been abated in order to conduct a
final inspection to confirm abatement. If the respondent fails to abate
the violation, the county may abate the violation by using any method
to bring the violation into compliance and may use the assistance of
the Collier County Sheriffs Office to enforce the provisions of this
order, and all costs of abatement shall be assessed to the property
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owner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Let me ask a couple of quick
questions. Number one, have you been in contact with the respondent?
MS. GREEN: Yes, we've tried to get in touch with the bank
which is HSBC. And we tried to get them to abate it. And not only
myself, but I think one of the other ladies that are --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So are the respondents Rick Lynn
White and Victoria Jacob, or is it the bank?
MS. GREEN: It's the bank, sir, that has the lis pendens. But this
was with Rick and Lynn (sic).
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: They owned it.
The banks generally don't want to get involved in that until they
foreclose.
MS. GREEN: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So the actual respondents right now
remain Rick Lynn White, et cetera.
INVESTIGATOR GIANNONE: We've done everything we can
to try to find them and --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: They're gone, whatever.
INVESTIGATOR GIANNONE: -- and Notice of Violation as
such has never been responded to.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Anybody want to fill in the
blanks?
MR. LAVINSKI: Yeah, I'll give it a shot.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. LAVINSKI: Make a motion that the admin. fees of 65.01 be
paid within 30 days. That the violation be corrected within 30 days or a
fine of$200 a day be imposed.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Second the motion.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a second.
Any discussion on the motion?
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(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: All those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
MS. ADAMS: The next case is Number Twelve from hearings,
Tab 12, Case CESD20150002056, Reg8 Berkshire Commons, LLC.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: If possible, after this case why don't
we take the people who are here and we can change the order of
agenda so that we don't keep people too late.
(Aile Tran, Lisa Hall and Investigator Giguere were duly sworn.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Could you give us your name also on
the mic.
MS. HALL: Yeah, Lisa Hall, and I'm with Regency Centers. We
own the shopping center.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I can't hear you.
MS. HALL: Lisa Hall, H-A-L-L.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And you're with?
MS. HALL: Regency Centers. We own this building. I'm the
Property Manager.
INVESTIGATOR GIGUERE: And just so the board knows, the
other lady standing up here is the wife of the business owner for the
nail salon.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
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INVESTIGATOR GIGUERE: Good morning. For the record,
Vickie Giguere, Collier County Code Enforcement.
This is in reference to Case Number CESD20150002056, dealing
with violations of Collier County Land Development Code 04-41, as
amended, Section 10.02.06(B)(1)(a). Unpermitted interior renovation
consisting of but not limited to exposed structural studs, electric and
plumbing adjacent to the firewall between the Nail Spa and Subway.
Restaurant located at 7063 Radio Road, Naples, Florida, 34104. Folio
No. 23945007103.
Service was given on February 18th, 2015.
I would like to now present case evidence in the following
exhibits: One photo taken on January 30th, 2015 by Investigator
Michele McGonagle, and six photos taken on January 31st, 2015 by
Investigator Michele McGonagle. And these files are stored in a data
base accessible to us.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Have you seen the photos?
MS. TRAN: Yes.
MS. HALL: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Do you have any objection to the
photos? •
MS. TRAN: No.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. You're going to have to speak
up for us, by the way. I can barely hear you.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Ms. Hall, have you seen them?
MS. HALL: Yes.
MR. LAVINSKI: Make a motion to accept.
MR. ASHTON: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Motion and a second.
All those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
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MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously, thank you.
Okay, I assume that that's the nail salon?
INVESTIGATOR GIGUERE: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And the wall in question is the one
on the right?
INVESTIGATOR GIGUERE: Correct.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
INVESTIGATOR GIGUERE: So on January 30th, 2015,
Investigator Michele McGonagle observed drywall had been removed,
along with some plumbing work that was conducted and part of the
ceiling was removed. Electric wires and HVAC ducts were hanging
from the ceiling.
On January 31st, 2015 Investigator Michele McGonagle
conducted permit research and did not find any further work being
done.
She returned to the business to issue a stop work order and
noticed that overnight a wall had been framed.
The case was then referred to contractor licensing. They did not
find a violation because they were told the work was being done by the
business owner's family members.
MS. TRAN: Yes, it was -- the --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hold on. Wait 'til we go through
them. And then we'll go through it.
INVESTIGATOR GIGUERE: On February 20th, 2015
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Supervisor Joe Mucha received a call from Lisa, who is here, with
Regency Centers who manages the property. She let them know that
they were aware of the violation and the tenants would be obtaining
the necessary permits.
On March 5th, 2015 Supervisor Mucha spoke with the nail salon
owner, Michael Tran, and he told Joe that he and his contractor were
still planning on submitting for permits.
Between April to May I reached out to the contractor multiple
times to touch base and get an update on the submittal of a permit but
received no response. So the case was prepared for Code Enforcement
Board.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Were they ordered to stop work?
INVESTIGATOR GIGUERE: They were, and they did. Yes, it
looks the same now as it did in the pictures from January 31st.
They've just covered the framing with drapes so that it's not such an
eyesore.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Is there exposed electrical or
plumbing?
INVESTIGATOR GIGUERE: There is.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Is it live?
INVESTIGATOR GIGUERE: I'm not sure.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
Okay, you had a couple of comments, so why don't we start out?
INVESTIGATOR GIGUERE: Well, if I could?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I'm sorry.
INVESTIGATOR GIGUERE: There was a permit submitted for,
but it was not done until May 26th, and we had already prepared the
case to come here. And as of June 29th, yesterday, when I checked on
the permit, it has been rejected.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MS. TRAN: The plumbing and electrical, there were already
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existed. We just were -- we were trying to partition for the walls. And
I have -- my family did it because they're from California so they just
came over. So that's why we had to do it quickly. But we thought that
because it's already existing so we didn't need to get the permit. But
once we got the stop order, I tried to get -- we tried to get the
contractor and the architecter (sic) to draw up the plan. But it took
them a while. We tried to get it as quickly as possible. That's why we
contact them, you know, to let them know that we're working on it. So
finally they put it in and then we got this letter.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Questions from the board?
MR. ASHTON: You said the permit was rejected?
INVESTIGATOR GIGUERE: Yes.
MR. ASHTON: Basically there is no permit.
INVESTIGATOR GIGUERE: At this time, correct. Yeah, it was
rejected by the plumbing and handicap review. The existing bathroom
with the new adjoining rooms no longer complies with the
maneuvering clearances, so they rejected it on that basis.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And you're aware that your permit
was rejected? Or are you aware that your permit was rejected?
MS. TRAN: Yes, right now.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And what's plan B?
MS. TRAN: Oh, well, plan B is to get it approved and then get it
done.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So you have to go back to the
architect --
MS. TRAN: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- to redraw it?
MS. TRAN: Redraw it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Move walls or whatever.
MS. TRAN: Yes, whatever it takes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Are any of the -- is any of the
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electric live, or is it turned off at the --
MS. TRAN: It's turned off.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- at the panel box?
MS. TRAN: Yeah, even the plumbing was not used. We don't
use --
MS. HALL: It's capped.
MS. TRAN: It's capped, yeah, so all of it is capped until our ones
that is done by the general contractor.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, when was the permit --
INVESTIGATOR GIGUERE: It was just rejected on the 26th.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: On the 26th. So this past week.
INVESTIGATOR GIGUERE: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And you've already contacted the
architect to --
MS. TRAN: Uh-huh, yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Was there any drawing done before?
MS. TRAN: Drawings done?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Of the architectural -- when you
started the process, did you submit it to an architect to do a drawing so
that you could submit a permit?
MS. TRAN: Before we did this or after we got the --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, when you went for a permit
you have to show a design on what you're doing.
INVESTIGATOR GIGUERE: If I may, Chairman, there was
scopes submitted with the permit.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. But they didn't realize when
they issued that that it was in violation before?
INVESTIGATOR GIGUERE: Well, when they went to apply for
the permit they had their drawings and a scope of work submitted
along with that. When it was under review, it passed all the other
departments except for the handicapped plumbing review.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Ordinarily that would have been
picked up by an architect who --
INVESTIGATOR GIGUERE: It may have, yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So we're in a position now
where we have a rejected permit.
INVESTIGATOR GIGUERE: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And we have the architect looking at
redrawing it so it comes into compliance.
Have you any idea -- well, to begin with, does a violation exist?
Let's go through that first and then we'll see what we can do.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Make a motion a violation does exist.
MR. LAVINSKI: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and second a
violation exists.
All those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
Okay, now -- I wonder if I can say that any faster. Did you keep
up with me, Cherie'?
How long do you think it will take to have it redrawn and
resubmitted is my question number one.
MS. TRAN: The problem we have is that the architect and the
contractor, we don't have control over how fast, but I just talked to the
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contractor and he said that it would be done within -- you mean the
redrawing and then the submitting only?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Right, for the permit.
MS. TRAN: For the permit. I would think the redrawing should
be like about a week or -- about two weeks, give it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So once that is resubmitted, that has
to be approved by the people at the county who denied it. And then
once they issue that then the contractor can complete the work.
Does that sound logical to everybody? Okay. So now what we
need is your suggestion and then we can see what numbers to plug in
based on what's required.
INVESTIGATOR GIGUERE: That the Code Enforcement
Board orders the respondent to pay all operational costs in the amount
of$65.85 incurred in the prosecution of this case within 30 days and
abate all violations by: Obtaining all required Collier County building
permits or demolition permit, inspections and certificate of
completion/occupancy within "blank" days of this hearing or a fine of
"blank" dollars per day will be imposed until the violation is abated.
That the respondent must notify the code enforcement
investigator when the violation has been abated in order to conduct a
final inspection to confirm abatement. If the respondent fails to abate
the violation, the county may abate the violation, using any method to
bring the violation into compliance and may use the assistance of the
Collier County Sheriffs Office to enforce the provisions of this order,
and all costs of abatement shall be assessed to the property owner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, somebody like to take a stab
at this?
MR. LAVINSKI: Yeah, I'll do it.
Make a motion that the $65.85 be paid in 30 days. And where
this project is chugging along, or was, that it be completed in 120 days
or a fine of$200 per day be imposed.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, that should be more than
enough time, I would guess.
MR. ASHTON: I think we should go to 90 days. I think 90 days
is more than enough time.
MR. LAVINSKI: I'd be willing to go to 90 if that's the pleasure
of the board.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I think that's better.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I would agree with 90.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Do we have a second?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I'll second it.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I was going to.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, you want to second it.
MR. LEFEBVRE: You seconded it already.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, so we have a motion and a
second. Any discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: What we're looking here, this should
give you -- if we pass this, should give you all the time you need to get
everything done, okay?
All those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
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So you have three months to have the architect redraw it, submit
it to the county, have the county issue the building permit, complete
the work and get a CO.
INVESTIGATOR GIGUERE: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Thank you.
MS. ADAMS: The next case is the emergency case, Case
CEPM20150011894, Talia Chavez-O'Bourke.
(Elido Chavez and Investigator Garcia were duly sworn.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You are the husband of Talia
Chavez?
MR. CHAVEZ: Father.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Father? Okay.
INVESTIGATOR GARCIA: Good afternoon.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good afternoon.
INVESTIGATOR GARCIA: For the record, Shirley Garcia,
Collier County Code Enforcement.
This is in reference to Case Number CEPM20150011894, dealing
with the violations of Collier County Code of Laws and Ordinances,
Chapter 22, Buildings and Building Regulation, Article VI, Property
Maintenance Code, Section 22-231(1), and section 22-231(2),
compliance with housing standards.
It's an occupied single-family dwelling with no water connection,
and also a child inside the dwelling.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, you have any pictures or
anything else to present?
INVESTIGATOR GARCIA: No, there's no pictures, I'd just like
to present my case. I went through the utilities department. I
originally got the complaint on June 11th for illegal electric hookup
and no water and a family living there.
I approached the residence and nobody was at the door, so I left
my pink door hanger and a business card. I also contacted FP&L. Had
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to leave a message, and I contacted City of Naples Water Department.
They got back to me on June 12th. Towards the end of the day
FP&L said they did have regular service hooked up and there was
usage in the home, regular usage every month.
City of Naples got back to me and she said no, they do not have
water connection. They haven't had water since January, 2015.
I went back, it was -- June 12th was a Friday. I went back, issued
a Notice of Violation on the door. I talked to the occupant of the
dwelling of the mobile home and she was with her daughter there. I
asked if she was a tenant, she explained yes, she was. And I asked her
if I can enter in to see if there was water.
And she said no, she wasn't allowed to let me in but she would
give Mr. Chavez my business card and have him call me.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Mr. Chavez, can you tell me what
the situation is?
MR. CHAVEZ: I went to the City Hall to find out -- I owe a lot
of money over there, $4,000. To put connection water have to pay
$4,000. I don't got this money.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, well, let me just -- this is an
emergency case. We cannot have a residence without water. So let me
just explain that should we find this in violation, that mobile home will
be empty. Nobody would be permitted to live there without water. Do
you understand that?
MR. CHAVEZ: Yeah.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Do you have anything else?
It's $4,000, you don't have the $4,000, do I understand you correctly?
MR. CHAVEZ: Yeah.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Board, any comments?
There's a --
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Had there been previous water service at
this address?
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MR. CHAVEZ: Yeah, he got water in 2011. Around 2011 my
daughter came, he cut out the service. No water. But I don't know, the
money is still rising, rising, rising.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So they had water in 2011, probably
-- no bill --
INVESTIGATOR GARCIA: The reason why the daughter -- it
was originally Mr. Chavez's mobile home. He got in some legal issues
and was sent away for a little while. His daughter -- the lawyer put the
daughter's name on the title because due to his legal issues, and he was
not there at the dwelling.
When the daughter got the deed into her name, a quitclaim deed,
she went and shut off the water because her father wasn't living there.
In 2012 or '13, I believe, he returned back to the home and got behind
on the water payments and the City of Naples allowed him to make
partial payments until January, 2015 when they completely shut it off
because it was over $4,000, $4,500.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Quitclaim deeds states that transfer from a
Gerald T. Berry and a Catherine J. Berry --
INVESTIGATOR GARCIA: That was his attorney.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Oh, on October 31st, 2014. To Talia
Chavez-O'Bourke.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, does a violation exist?
MR. LAVINSKI: Make a motion a violation does exist.
MR. ASHTON: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second that
a violation exists.
All those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
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MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
Okay, do you have a suggestion for us?
INVESTIGATOR GARCIA: I do.
That the Code Enforcement Board order the respondent to pay all
operational costs in the amount of$65.43 incurred in the prosecution
of this case within 30 days and abate all violations by: Connecting
water through an approved distribution center connected to a potable
water supply within "blank" hours or day of this hearing or a fine of
"blank" per day will be imposed until the violation is abated.
Number two: The respondent must notify the code enforcement
investigator when the violation has been abated in order to conduct a
final inspection to confirm abatement.
If the respondent fails to abate the violation, the county may abate
the violation using any method to bring the violation into compliance
and may use the assistance of the Collier County Sheriffs Office to
enforce the provisions of this order, and all costs of abatement shall be
assessed to the property owner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, it sounds as though if there's a
$4,000 bill, unless Mr. Chavez can find a way to come up with the
$4,000, they're not going to turn the water on.
INVESTIGATOR GARCIA: And if I may add, the City of
Naples did provide him with some assistance programs that may help
him. Because they're willing to waive half of the whole bill. They
already explained that to him. I spoke with Monica in the utility
billing department in the City of Naples. And I've been working with
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her to try to help Mr. Chavez be able to obtain those assistance
programs. And, you know, a substantial amount of money is willing to
be waived by the city.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. My concern on this is that
nobody should be in there even for the next day. It should be vacated
immediately.
INVESTIGATOR GARCIA: And unfortunately the ordinance is
very specific, occupied or unoccupied must have -- all dwelling units,
whether occupied or unoccupied, shall comply with the requirements
of the section as hereinafter set forth.
And it is stating that it should be connected to an approved water
and sanitary sewer system as approved by Collier County or the Collier
County Public Health Department, as applicable.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You're saying that if this was
unoccupied you'd still need water connected to it?
INVESTIGATOR GARCIA: I mean per ordinance. But I would
not seek out any kind of enforcement on it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: My concern is there's somebody
living there and a child and there's no water.
INVESTIGATOR GARCIA: Correct.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's unacceptable.
So I don't know about the first portion of the water, we'll certainly
fill in the blanks on that, but I think that the other remedy in this
situation would be to have any residents vacate the premises
immediately.
So let's just see how we go. Anybody want to take a stab at the
numbers on this?
MR. LAVINSKI: Where is the daughter in all of this that owns
the property?
INVESTIGATOR GARCIA: She lives up in Tennessee, and
she's been calling me back and forth. She doesn't want anything to do
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with the property. Originally the only reason why she took possession
is because the attorney -- money was actually owed to the attorney, the
attorney took possession as collateral for the payment. She paid off the
attorney and then he signed the deed to her for payment for his services
to help Mr. Chavez. That's originally how it all -- and she said that she
does not -- because once her father returned, he just went back to the
trailer, assuming that, you know, he would start taking responsibility.
MR. LAVINSKI: So is he living in the trailer?
INVESTIGATOR GARCIA: Yes, sir.
MR. LAVINSKI: With the --
INVESTIGATOR GARCIA: And others. The complaint came
in actually as multiple families living there, multiple people in the
home. I could not substantiate that. And illegal hookup for electric
and no water. The only thing I could prove was no water in the home.
And then I did talk to the occupant and I observed her daughter in the
doorway, so --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. And FPL has no hookup to
the --
INVESTIGATOR GARCIA: They do. And it's ongoing usage
every month. That's how I know there's other occupants in that --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: This ongoing usage, is it being paid?
INVESTIGATOR GARCIA: Yes. Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Somebody want to take a stab
at this fill in the blanks?
MR. LAVINSKI: Yeah, I'll do it.
Make a motion that the 65.45 --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: 43.
MR. LAVINSKI: 43 be paid within 30 days. That the residents
be vacated within 24 hours or that a fine of$200 per day be imposed.
INVESTIGATOR GARCIA: Or water hookup?
MR. LAVINSKI: Or water hookup, yes. Yeah, throughout the
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approved -- yeah.
Yeah, get a water hookup or vacate. As that says there, right?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Right, within 24 hours.
MR. LAVINSKI: Yes, 24 hours.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Any second on that motion?
MR. ASHTON: I'll second it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a second.
Any comments on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, all those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
Mr. Chavez, you either need water in there or it has to be empty.
Everybody in there has to leave.
MR. CHAVEZ: Right now it's empty.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It's empty now? That's a good start.
MR. CHAVEZ: Right now empty.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Now, you're aware of the help that
the code enforcement officer has been trying to get you to get the water
bill paid?
MR. CHAVEZ: I went to the City Hall, I asked for a payment
plan. They tell me you have to go -- I go for help to the church,
nobody can help me, it's too much money. But if I got a payment plan,
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I can do it. Because of my retirement is a little bit. With the payment
plan I can pay. I want to pay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You said that they had offered
substantial reduction and --
INVESTIGATOR GARCIA: 50 percent.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: 50 percent. So if the original bill
was $4,000 --
MR. CHAVEZ: Right now they lower it to $2,400.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And could they work out a payment
plan on that 2,000?
INVESTIGATOR GARCIA: He could go in there if he wants. I
can go in there and assist him with the utility billing finance manager
to see if they could work out -- but he would have to agree not to
occupy that dwelling and not have usage in the home until they are
able to catch that payment. Because they were paying payments in
2012, I believe.
They were taking partial payments. That's how the -- they were
accepting partial payments, and then when it got up to 4,500, that's
when they disconnected completely, because the partial payments
wasn't equaling out to the usage of the water. And it was compiling.
MR. LEFEBVRE: It wasn't catching up.
INVESTIGATOR GARCIA: Exactly.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And there's more than just two
people in the unit.
INVESTIGATOR GARCIA: Exactly.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's what also causes -- so if you
would assist Mr. Chavez, the board would greatly appreciate that.
INVESTIGATOR GARCIA: Absolutely.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Anything that can be done to -- we'll
see if we can get you some help to resolve your bill. But during that
time you know nobody can be in there.
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MR. LEFEBVRE: Let me ask this for the record.
Are you willing to let the investigator enter the premises and
verify that no one is living there?
MR. CHAVEZ: I agree.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Can you make arrangements within the next
24 hours?
INVESTIGATOR GARCIA: Absolutely.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Thank you very much.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Thank you. Good luck on getting
the water.
MR. CHAVEZ: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. LEFEBVRE: How do you want to handle this? You said
whoever is present you'll take --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yes. What's the next case? Are they
here?
MS. ADAMS: All the next ones in line are here, according to the
agenda. So -- the next case will be from Number Six, Old Business, A,
Motion for Imposition of Fines/Liens. Number One, Tab 15. Case
CELU20150004921, Roselene Eloi.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Cherie', how are your fingers doing?
THE COURT REPORTER: Good, thank you.
(Roselene Eloi and Investigator Kincaid were duly sworn.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good morning.
INVESTIGATOR KINCAID: Sir, there's some changes to the
document that you have. So I will read them. And I don't know if you
all need to change your copies or --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: No problem, we'll just write it in.
INVESTIGATOR KINCAID: For the record, Jim Kincaid,
Collier County Code Enforcement. I'm an Investigator.
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This is in reference to violation of the Collier County Land
Development Code 04-41, as amended, Section 2.02.03 and
4.05.03(A).
The location of the violation was 5361 Holland Street, Naples,
Florida. The Folio No. 6220560007.
Automotive repair activity and vehicles parked on the grass of
improved residential zoned property.
The past order: On May 28th, 2015 the Code Enforcement Board
issued a Finding of Fact/Conclusion of Law and Order. The
respondent was found in violation of the referenced ordinances and
ordered to correct the violation. See the attached Order of the Board
OR 5163, page 1478 for more information.
The violation has been abated as of June 10th, 2015. Fines have
accrued at a rate of$250 per day for the period between June 4th, 2015
to June 10th, for a period of 7 days, and the total fine amount for that is
$1,750. The previous assessed operational cost of 61 -- $64.17 have
not been paid. And the operational cost for today's hearing of$63.33
are due. And the total amount is $1,877.50.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Good morning.
MS. ELOI: Good morning.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, it's afternoon already.
The -- typically until the operational costs are paid we do not --
we would like to probably abate the fine if the operational costs are
paid.
MS. ELOI: I paid it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You did? Okay, well --
MS. ELOI: You want me to show you the receipt?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Show the young lady over there, Ms.
Adams.
MR. LEFEBVRE: You can put it up on the monitor.
MS. ADAMS: It was paid on June 23rd. I wasn't aware of that.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. LEFEBVRE: When was this package prepared?
MS. ADAMS: Whenever you guys got the packets. I don't know
when that was.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Just curious, maybe it was prior to --
MS. ADAMS: Yeah, it was before the 23rd.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Anybody want to make a
motion?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Motion to abate.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion.
MR. LAVINSKI: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And a second to abate. All those in
favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
All done.
MS. ELOI: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, you want to take your receipt
with you, in case somebody asks you for it.
INVESTIGATOR KINCAID: Thank you, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Thank you.
MS. ADAMS: The next case is Number Two, Tab 16, Case
CESD2013 --
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Can we hold on a second? Take a
quickie five-minute break?
(Recess.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I'd like to call the Code Enforcement
back to meeting.
MS. ADAMS: The next case is Number Two from Imposition of
Fines, Case CESD20130008321, Antonio Louissaint. And it's Tab 16.
(Jesula Francois, duly sworn as translator, Antonio Louissaint and
Supervisor Mucha were duly sworn.)
MS. FRANCOIS: I'm the daughter and I've been handling all the
paperwork.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good morning, Joe.
INVESTIGATOR MUCHA: Good afternoon.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah, I guess so. Go ahead.
INVESTIGATOR MUCHA: I was going to say, for the record,
Joe Mucha, Code Enforcement. I believe they have a request they
would like to make.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MS. FRANCOIS: Basically everything is done. All the time you
all gave me to do everything, I did everything. Only one thing is my
dad thought he could put the flood vent by himself He didn't want to
pay somebody money to do it. And he tried -- he put it upside down
and crooked and everything, so we're just going to have to fix that. I
just need like 45 days or 30 days to get that done.
I was not here, I was in the hospital. That's why everything is kind
of creeky. But he tried to do it himself He's 84 years old, he tried to
do it himself He didn't want to pay that money.
MR. LEFEBVRE: What was the last item that needs installation?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Vent.
MS. FRANCOIS: Flood vent. Very easily. I got them at Lowe's
and you just put them in there. But you have to put it in a way so that
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if the house ever get water it would just open by itself. And by my dad
putting it upside down, it wasn't able to open by itself.
MR. LEFEBVRE: That takes 45 days to fix?
MS. FRANCOIS: It will take less than that. Probably -- because
he don't want to pay the money. I'm just going to have to pay the
money and get it done. Because he thinks he could do it by himself
But I was in the hospital, I didn't have time to go back and forth to the
property, and I've been doing -- I've been handing all the paperworks
in and I could get that done.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Instead of doing another order, should we just
continue this?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah, I think that's a good idea.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Just withdraw it and bring it back next month
instead of doing a whole other order?
INVESTIGATOR MUCHA: I'd be okay with that. I mean, I
reviewed the permit. There's only one thing that's left, this flood vent
relief. But they've passed their final electrical, their final plumbing and
the final building, so it's safe, it just needs this flood vent.
MS. FRANCOIS: And he didn't want to pay the money to get it
done.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I don't blame him. I think he should
put the flood vent in, just turn it upside down.
MS. FRANCOIS: Yeah, he got it upside down. He did a good
job putting it, it's just upside down. You have to put the flood vent in a
way when the water come it elevate by itself
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, tell him to put it in upside
down now and it will be right.
MS. FRANCOIS: Yeah, it will be right.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We've got a motion to continue this
'til the next meeting.
MR. LEFEBVRE: If we continue it, do we do -- hold on a
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second, please.
MS. NICOLA: I'd love it if you just withdrew it. It would make
my life so much easier.
INVESTIGATOR MUCHA: We withdraw it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, done.
Fix it and you come back next month.
MS. FRANCOIS: Okay, thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Tammy owes us lunch.
MS. ADAMS: Next case is Number Three, Tab 17, Case
CES20150000879, Totam, LLC.
(Yackeleine Bravo, Rose Rochasse and Supervisor Perez were
duly sworn.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And the other young lady is?
SUPERVISOR PEREZ: She's the tenant, the business owner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: This is a window signage, et cetera?
SUPERVISOR PEREZ: Yes. And I'd like to start off by saying
that I will read along and some of the items have changed as this
property is now in compliance. So as I read it, if you could note those
changes, please.
This is in reference to -- for the record, Cristina Perez, Collier
County Code Enforcement.
This is in reference to CEB Case Number CES20150000879.
Violation, Collier County Land Development Code 04-41, as
amended, Section 5.06.04(F)(4)(e). Location: 12355 Collier
Boulevard, unit D, Naples, Florida. Folio No. 56200000087.
Description: Window signage exceeds 25 percent.
Past orders: On April 23rd, 2015 the Code Enforcement Board
issued a Findings of Fact and Conclusion of Law and Order. The
respondent was found in violation of the referenced ordinances and
ordered to correct the violation. See the attached Order of the Board
OR 5147, Page 3687 for more information.
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The violation has been abated as of June 29th, 2015. Fines and
costs to date are as follows: Fines have accrued at the rate of$150 per
day for the period between May 24, 2015 to June 29, 2015, 37 days,
for a total amount of$5,550. Previous assessed operational cost of
$64.17 have not been paid. Total operational costs for today's hearing
would be $63.75. Total amount to date, $5,677.92.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Anything else?
SUPERVISOR PEREZ: That's it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Good morning -- good
afternoon, actually. You have a request, I would assume.
MS. BRAVO: Yes, we do.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MS. BRAVO: Okay, one request that we have is I will pay the
$64.17 as soon as I get out of the court downstairs.
The reason why we didn't pay the money, it was because I
assume, that was a bad thing, that she have to pay that. And I sent the
letter and then I didn't go forward with the payment. But I will take
care of that today.
The last time when the inspector was there, they said that it was a
different 1.96 percent of the window. And I just wonder if you can
waive of any of the charge, because we already fix everything; she's
already taken care of that, so everything is corrected by now. And
that's my request.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. One question that I have on
today's cost. Are they in -- add those two together?
MR. LEFEBVRE: No, we're abating them.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So you're going to pay the
$64.17.
MS. BRAVO: Today.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And you're asking for the board to
consider abating the $5,600 and some odd dollars fine.
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MS. BRAVO: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, so -- any motions from the
board?
MR. LEFEBVRE: She has to go to Horseshoe Drive to pay that,
right?
SUPERVISOR PEREZ: Yes, so it would be at the citation office
at Horseshoe Drive.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I make a motion to abate with the
understanding that the $64.17 will be paid today. If it is not paid
today, then the fine of--
MS. BRAVO: $5,000 dollars, 650.
MR. LEFEBVRE: You know it. So the fine of$5,650 plus the
$64.17 will be imposed.
Okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And the $63.75 you mean.
MR. LEFEBVRE: And the $63.75.
SUPERVISOR PEREZ: Yes. So it would be a total of
$5,677.92.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. LAVINSKI: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, we have a motion and a
second. Any discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: All those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
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MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
Thank you.
MS. ADAMS: Next case is Number Four, Tab 18, Case
CESD20140020715, Miriam R. Jewell.
(Mr. Jewell and Investigator Musse were duly sworn.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And your name, sir, for the record?
MR. JEWELL: Thomas Jewell.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Thomas Jewell. Gotcha.
INVESTIGATOR MUSSE: For the record, Jonathan Musse,
Collier County Code Enforcement.
This is reference to Case Number CESD20140020715, in
reference to violations of Collier County Land Development Code
04-41, as amended, Sections 10.02.06(B)(1)(a) and
10.02.06(B)(1)(e)(i).
Location of violation is 6596 Glen Arbor Way, Naples, Florida.
Folio No. 80640001528.
Description of the violation: Converted the garage into a theater
room without first obtaining valid Collier County permits.
Past orders: On February 26th, 2015 the Code Enforcement
Board issued a Finding of Fact/Conclusion of Law and Order. The
respondent was found in violation of the referenced ordinance and
ordered to correct the violation. See the attached Order of the Board
OR 5128, Page 157 for more information.
The violation has been abated as of June 2nd, 2015.
Fines and costs to date are as follows: Fines have accrued at the
rate of$200 per day for a period between May 28th, 2015 and June
2nd, 2015, six days, for a total fine amount of$1,200.
Previously assessed operational cost of$66.27 have been paid.
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Operational costs for today's hearing is $64.17.
Total amount to date, is $1,264.17.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Make a motion to abate.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second to
abate. All those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
Thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I was going to ask you what's
playing there and do you have popcorn.
MR. JEWELL: We do have a pop-- it's just for the grand kids, so
we've got lots of popcorn.
MS. NICOLA: I figured it was a man cave. Isn't that what they
call it now?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Absolutely.
MS. NICOLA: Man caves? I don't know why don't say anything
for women, that's what really bothers me.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You can have your own cave.
MS. NICOLA: Do you have a wife? Has she asked you for one?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I have a wife but she asks for more
than caves. She wants rocks, clear ones that you put on your finger.
MS. ADAMS: The next two cases are for the same respondent,
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Number Five, Tab 19, Case CESD20140000248. And Number Six,
Tab 20, Case CESD20130001292. Christopher S. Esenberg.
(Mr. Esenberg and Investigator Garcia were duly sworn.)
INVESTIGATOR GARCIA: This case is in reference to
CESD20140000248 and CEB Case Number CESD20130001292, the
violation of Collier County Land Development Code 04-41, as
amended, Section 10.02.06(B)(1)(a).
And the location of this violation is 3301 Guilford Road. Folio
No. 47871360000.
The description of the violation was an expired permit for a pool
and a permit for a pool enclosure but no certificate of occupancy.
The past orders were on July 24th, 2014 the Code Enforcement
Board issued a Findings of Fact, Conclusion of Law and Order. The
respondent was found in violation of the referenced ordinances and
ordered to correct the violation.
On November 21st, 2014 a continuance was granted and the book
and page are -- the violation as of June 15th, 2015 have been abated.
The fines have accrued at $100 per day between October 23rd, to June
15th for a total fine amount of 23,600. The previously assessed
operational cost of$62.84 have been paid. The operational costs for
today's hearing, $65.01 is going to be due. Total amount to date is
$23,665.01.
The gravity of the violation is moderate. Any actions taken by the
violator was he voluntarily complied, it just took a lot longer than he
anticipated.
He does have a sister case which is the 2013, which took a little
longer to abate. And his extension of time was granted. And he did
come into compliance after that extension time that was provided from
the board.
In the 2013 case this started before then, he bought the property
with violations.
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MR. LEFEBVRE: Ifs a separate case.
INVESTIGATOR GARCIA: Yeah. Do you want to do them
separately? Okay.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Mr. Esenberg has been in front of us several
times. He's always been, from what I remember, working towards
correcting whatever issues he had. So I make a motion to abate.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: I'll second that.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Motion and a second to abate. All
those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
Which brings us to the last case.
INVESTIGATOR GARCIA: This is in reference to Case
Number CESD20130001292. The violation was Collier County Land
Development Code 04-41, as amended, Section 10.02.06(B)(1)(a).
The location of the violation was 3315 Guilford Road. Folio No.
47871280009.
The description of the violations were an addition and alterations
made to the structure without first obtaining a Collier County building
permit.
The past orders: On June 27th, 2013 the Code Enforcement
Board issued a Findings of Fact/Conclusion of Law and Order. The
respondent was found in violation of the referenced ordinances and
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ordered to correct.
On January 23rd, 2014 extension of time was granted. And on
June 20th, 2014 another extension of time was also granted.
On January 22, 2015 a continuance was granted. And the
violation has been abated as of June 15th also.
Fines have accrued at the rate of 250 per day between October
24th and June 15th for a total fine amount of$58,750.
Previously assessed operational cost of$207.12 have been paid.
The operational cost for today's hearing is $68.37. Total amount to
date, $58,818.37.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Once again, Mr. Esenberg has been in front of
us multiple times, he's always been willing to work with the county to
correct the violations, so I make a motion to abate.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second to
abate. All those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
MR. ISACKSON: Thank you very much.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I think this might be the last time we see you,
hopefully. Have a great day.
MR. ESENBERG: Thanks.
MS. ADAMS: The next case is Number Seven, Tab 21, Case
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CESD20120000572, Juan Campbell and Nora Carrillo.
SUPERVISOR PEREZ: They're not present.
(Supervisor Perez was duly sworn.)
SUPERVISOR PEREZ: For the record, Cristina Perez, Collier
County Code Enforcement.
This is in reference to violations county Land Development Code
04-41, as amended, Section 10.02.06(B)(1)(a).
Location: 1101 North 11th Street, Immokalee, Florida. Folio No.
63912040001.
Description: Building permit expired without the completion of
all related inspections and issuance of a certificate of
completion/occupancy.
Past orders: On January 22nd, 2015 the Code Enforcement Board
issued a Findings of Fact/Conclusion of Law and Order. The
respondent was found in violation of the referenced ordinances and
ordered to correct the violation. See the attached Order of the Board
OR 5118, Page 2287, for more information.
On May 28th, 2015 a continuance was granted. See the attached
Order of the Board OR 5163, Page 1496, for more information.
The violation has not been abated as of June 30th, 2015.
Fines and costs to date are as follows: Fines have accrued at the
rate of$200 per day for the period between April 23rd, 2015 to June
30th, 2015, 69 days, for a total of$13,800. Fines continue to accrue.
Previously assessed operational costs of$67.00 have been paid.
Operational costs for today's hearing, $63.75. Total amount is
$13,863.75.
And that permit is due to expire today and no inspections have
been called in as of about 30 minutes ago when I looked at the permit.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Have you been in contact with them?
SUPERVISOR PEREZ: There's another investigator that's
working this case. I did talk to him previously when he was here
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before you and did express that this needed to be completed. There's
still a couple of inspections that need to be done on the inspection card,
when I looked up the permit.
I know one of his biggest issues was a garage door that he could
not afford to purchase. And he was encouraged to make revisions to
his permit to not include the door so he could finish his project.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I'd almost like to do something that I
don't think we've ever done, is to give him another month. Because it
looked like he had been working on getting this done and I don't know
why he's here and he's from Immokalee. That would give us a month
-- give you a month to see if you can get ahold of him and see if he's
going to do this or not.
MR. LEFEBVRE: So after all this, you're asking for the county
to withdraw the case?
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Or continue it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Or continue it. We can continue it.
That way the fines continue to accrue.
SUPERVISOR PEREZ: The property's --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Oh, yeah, you've got to make
Tammy happy.
Can you withdraw this and -- with the board's concurrence, and
bring it back next month?
SUPERVISOR PEREZ: Yeah, the county has no objection. I
know the final electrical was improved so, you know, electrical issues
are usually a hot topic. And his electrical inspection was finalized.
The final electrical was approved in 2013.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Let him know we had a long
meeting and we're very benevolent today, so even though he wasn't
here to ask for it, we thought it was a good idea to give him additional
time to get back to us.
SUPERVISOR PEREZ: Okay, the county withdraws.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Thank you.
MS. ADAMS: The next case is Number Nine, Tab 22, Case
CESD20150001847, Yasiel Rodriguez.
(Investigator Short was duly sworn.)
INVESTIGATOR SHORT: For the record, Senior Investigator
Eric Short, Collier County Code Enforcement.
This is in reference to violations of the Collier County Land
Development Code 04-41, as amended, Section 10.02.06(B)(1)(a).
Location is 1120 27th Street Southwest, Naples, Florida. Folio
No. 37345920009.
Description is unpermitted alteration to support a marijuana grow
operation.
Past orders: On March 26th, 2015 the Code Enforcement Board
issued a Finding of Fact/Conclusion of Law and Order. The
respondent was found in violation of the referenced ordinances and
ordered to correct the violation. See the attached Order of the Board
OR 5138, Page 1202, for more information.
The violation has been abated as of June 29th, 2015.
Fines and costs to date are as follows: Fines have accrued at a rate
of$200 per day for the period between May 26th, 2015 to June 9th,
2015, 35 days, for a total fine amount of$7,000. Previously assessed
operational costs of$65.01 have been paid. Operational costs for
today's hearing are $64.17. Total amount to date is $7,064.17.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So the violation has been
abated.
Anybody like to make a motion from the board?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Well, has the respondent asked for the fines to
be abated?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, he's not here. That's a concern.
INVESTIGATOR SHORT: He was under the assumption,
though. He really pushed and pushed to get a CO yesterday.
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MR. LEFEBVRE: If we impose the fines --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: He was here at the last meeting, I
remember this case.
Anyone want to make a motion? If not, I'll make a motion. I
make a motion to abate.
MR. MARINO: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a second.
Any discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: All those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
Thank you.
Here, you want to hit me?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Is that it?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: No, no, no.
MS. ADAMS: The next item is Number Eight, consent agenda.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. The consent agenda. We're
up to the memorandums. So Kerry, what are you looking for on this, a
motion to --
MS. ADAMS: It's a request to send the cases to the County
Attorney's Office for foreclosure.
MR. LAVINSKI: I'll make a motion to forward those cases to the
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County Attorney's Office.
MR. DOINO: Second.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second.
All those in favor?
MR. LAVINSKI: Aye.
MR. MARINO: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
They're listed on there, three out of the four.
MR. LEFEBVRE: So how can we do that?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We send them and let the attorney,
the County Attorney, handle that.
MR. LEFEBVRE: According to state statute --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: 162.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Thank you. It states that code enforcement
lien cannot be filed if the property's homesteaded.
MS. ADAMS: The County Attorney is aware of that. They may
send it for collection, either collection or foreclosure, depending on
what the situation is with the homeowner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's the one --
MR. LEFEBVRE: For foreclosure? How could it be foreclosed
on if--
MS. ADAMS: Or a collection agency.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Oh, either/or, depending on the situation.
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MS. ADAMS: If it's homesteaded, we cannot foreclose on, that's
correct.
MR. LEFEBVRE: All right, thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah, that was --
MR. LEFEBVRE: Should we amend that to same either
foreclosure or collection, the consent agenda?
MS. ADAMS: It says it on the summary that you guys are given.
That's what it says. It doesn't say that on the agenda, but on the
summary that you're given it does specify either collection agency or
foreclosure.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Okay, fantastic, thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's why he gets paid the big
money. This is the Wendy Fong decision. That's what it was, that you
can't place a lien on -- I'm not making things up.
MR. LEFEBVRE: We just sound way too smart.
MS. NICOLA: A little bit of information goes --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It's what happens when they send
you to school.
MR. LAVINSKI: Motion to adjourn.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We're adjourned.
*****
There being no further business for the good of the County, the
meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair at 1:03 p.m.
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COLLIER COUNTY CODE
ENFORCEMENT BOARD
of.
/RO E f, A A MAN, Chairman
These minutes approved by the board on .1-23- i as
presented ,/or as corrected
Transcript prepared on behalf of Gregory Reporting Service, Inc., by
Cherie' R. Nottingham.
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