Clam Bay Committee Minutes 12/03/2013 CLAM BAY COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
TUESDAY,DECEMBER 3,2013
The Clam Bay Committee of the Pelican Bay Services Division met Tuesday,December 3,
2013 at 1:00 PM at the Community Center at Pelican Bay located at 8960 Hammock Oak Drive,
Naples,Florida, 34108. The following members attended:
Clam Bay Committee
Susan O'Brien,Chairman John Domenie
Joe Chicurel Mike Levy
Tom Cravens
Pelican Bay Services Division Board Scott Streckenbein
Staff
Neil Dorrill,Administrator Mary McCaughtry,Operations Analyst
Kyle Lukasz, Operations Manager Lisa Resnick,Recording Secretary
Also Present
Mohamed Dabees,P.E., Ph.D.,Humiston&Moore Engineers
Tim Hall,Principal,Turrell-Hall and Associates
Lauren Gibson, Turrell-Hall and Associates
Kathy Worley, Conservancy of Southwest Florida
Clam Bay Stakeholders and Public Speakers
Marcia Cravens Diane Lustig
Peter Duggan Ted Raia
Mary Johnson submitted written comments Linda Roth
• . REVISED AGENDA
1. Roll Call
2. Audience comments
3. Agenda Approval
4. Approval of Clam Bay Committee meeting minutes
a. October 17
b. October 29
c. November 12
4.5 Discussion of PBSD position on the proposed expansion to the Commons into the
wetlands(add-on)
5. Opening up culverts at Seagate Drive
a. Opinion letter
b. Co-sponsoring feasibility study with City of Naples
6. Clam Bay NRPA Management Plan
a. Suggested changes in latest draft
b. Next steps in plan development
c. Latest draft on passive recreation
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7. Article for Pelican Bay Post
8. Next meeting
9. Adjourn
AUDIENCE COMMENTS
None
AGENDA APPROVAL
Mr. Cravens motioned,Mr.Domenie seconded to approve the agenda as amended
[add"Discussion of PBSD position on the proposed expansion to the Commons into
the wetlands"J. The Committee voted unanimously in favor and the motion assed.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
OCTOBER 17
Mr. Cravens motioned,Mr. Domenie seconded to approve the October 17 minutes as
amended[p. 35 add sentence "Consensus was it was preferable to use term
"conditions"for dredging versus "triggers"for dredging."J. The Committee voted
unanimously in favor and the motion passed
OCTOBER 29
Mr. Cravens motioned,Mr. Levy seconded to approve the October 29 minutes as
amended[p. 38 "...drawings...add"and additional resources; "In the future, the
Committee would be notified of requests by the Foundation to rake the beach for
compliance with the permit";add 'four"posts]. The Committee voted unanimously in
favor and the motion passed.
NOVEMBER 12
Mr. Cravens motioned,Mr.Levy seconded to approve the November 12 minutes as
amended[add"... and selected map 1 to be used in the management plan'; "include
ordinance 96-16 in appendix of management plan'''. The Committee voted
unanimously in favor and the motion passed.
PBSD POSITION ON PROPOSED COMMONS EXPANSION/WETLANDS
The Committee discussed reaffirming the PBSD's opposition to the Foundation's
proposed Commons expansion into the wetlands.
Ms. Diane Lustig(Hyde Park)was concerned about using term wetlands generically.
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Mr. Scott Streckenbein suggested obtaining more information about the project and its
impact.
Dr. Raia supported the motion and suggested doing a study of the amount of existing
pervious/impervious lands, what the project authorizes, and what the project changes.
Ms. Mary Johnson explained the plan is a work-in-progress and has evolved and reduced
to from 50,000 square feet to 7,600.
Mr. Peter Duggan was concerned about filing an environmental impact statement due to
the project impact on drainage areas.
Mr. Dorrill explained that the Services Division does not have a conservation easement at
the project area; however,the original construction permit that approved the conceptual master
drainage system for this community may have preceded the point at which the state began to
apply conservation easements. Such an easement would have conveyed to South Florida Water
Management District"SFWMD",the regulatory authority; however,this does not appear to be
applicable here. Mr. Dorrill understood the Services Division does have jurisdiction over issues
that affect the master drainage permit that the Division is responsible. If the County finds the
plans constitute a"substantial"change to the site development plan and therefore, a modification
to the operating permit is necessary,then the Division may have an opportunity to review those
plans to approve of any changes to drainage elements affecting the water management permit.
Mr. Hall added that any impact to wetlands would require state and federal approval.
Mr. Cravens motioned,Dr. Chicurel seconded, the Clam Bay Committee recommends
the PBSD board express current concerns over the current plan to expand The
Commons. The Committee voted unanimously in favor and the motion passed.
OPENING UP CULVERTS AT SEAGATE DRIVE
OPINION LETTER
Dr. Mohamed Dabees,P.E., Ph.D.,Humiston&Moore Engineers,Inc. presented the
opinion letter regarding existing conditions of Clam Bay and Moorings Bays that included a
simulation of how a changes to these conditions could alter the present dynamics.
Committee consensus was not to make a recommendation to the full board to share the
opinion letter with the City of Naples.
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CO-SPONSORING FEASIBILITY STUDY WITH CITY OF NAPLES
Committee consensus was not to make a recommendation to the full board that the
Services Division co-sponsor a feasibility study with the City of Naples.
6-MONTH CLAM BAY POST-DREDGING MONITORING REPORT
Dr. Dabees presented the six-month Clam Bay post-dredging monitoring report and
reported the Pass was stable.
CLAM BAY NRPA MANAGEMENT PLAN
Mr. Hall distributed and reviewed the latest draft of the Clam Bay NRPA Management
Plan with the Committee, and requested that comments be submitted in writing. Consensus was
not to include matters that the Services Division does not have control.
JANUARY MEETINGS
Committee meetings were scheduled for January 7 and January 21.
CLAM BAY UPDATE FOR PELICAN BAY POST SUBMISSION(ADD-ON)
The Committee and audience reviewed and accepted Chairman O'Brien's Clam Bay
update to submit to the Pelican Bay Post.
ADJOURN
Chairman Cravens motioned,Mr.Domenie seconded to adjourn. The Committee
voted unanimously in favor,passing the motion, and meeting adjourned at 3:05 PM.
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Susan O'Brien, Chairman Minutes by LR 1/2/2014 4:50:33 PM
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