A&SDS Ad Hoc Minutes 01/12/2015 January 12, 2015
MINUTES OF THE COLLIER COUNTY ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE
DESIGN STANDARDS AD HOC COMMITTEE
Naples, Florida, January 12, 2015
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, the Collier County Architectural and Site Design
Standards Ad Hoc Committee in and for the County of Collier, having conducted
business herein, met on this date at 2:00 PM in a REGULAR SESSION at the Growth
Management Division Building, Room 609/610 2800 N. Horseshoe Drive, Naples, FL
with the following persons present:
Rocco Costa, AIA
James Boughton, AIA
Kathy Curatolo, Collier Building Industry Association (Excused)
Dalas Disney, AIA
Bradley Schiffer, AIA
Dominick Amico, P.E.
ALSO PRESENT: Caroline Cilek, LDC Manager
Jeremy Frantz, Planner
Matt McLean, Principal Project Manager
Stefanie Nawrocki, Planner
Madeline Bunster, Architect
Heidi Ashton - Cicko, Assistant County Attorney
Richard Henderlong, Principal Planner
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Any person in need of a verbatim record of the meeting may request a copy of the audio recording from
the Collier County Growth Management Division, Department of Planning and Zoning.
1. Call to Order
Mr. Amico called the meeting to order at 2:05pm and a quorum was established.
2. Approve Agenda
Mr. Boughton moved to approve the Agenda subject to adding item 8- "Stealth Codes"and Item 9
— "Finalize Schedule." Second by Mr. Disney. Carried unanimously 5—0.
3. Meeting Minutes
a. December 5th, 2014
b. December 15th, 2014
Mr. Schiffer moved to approve the minutes of the December 5, 2014 and the December 15, 2014
meeting as presented. Second by Mr. Boughton. Carried unanimously 5—0.
4. Next Meeting
Available dates to meet- Doodle Results
The next meeting will be held on January 27, 2015 at 2:30pm.
5. Follow up Items from the Previous Meeting
a. County Attorney Recommendation
Heidi Ashton-Cicko noted she conducted a review of the proposed Amendment and reported she
cannot make a finding it is legally sufficient in its proposed form due to the Alternative Design
Compliance Section ("The following alternative compliance process is established to allow
alternatives from the requirements of the section as approved by the County Manager or
designee"). She noted no criteria are established for the approval creating a situation where the
County Manager or designee has no guidance for the approval and it becomes too discretionary for
Staff. She recommended criteria be established for the approval process.
Mr. Schiffer moved for Section 505.08.G (Alternative Design Compliance) to be revised and
submitted to the County Attorney's Office for review to ensure it is legally sufficient. Second by
Mr. Costas. Motion carried 4 `yes"—1 "no." Mr. Disney dissenting.
Discussion occurred on Section 5.05.08.B.4.xii noting the narrative allows an architect to propose
and alternative building element to be approved by the County Manager or his designee. This
Section is discretionary and criteria are needed as well.
Staff reported they would review Section 5.05.08.B.4.xii and propose any other Section with
Staff discretion and changes as necessary at the next meeting.
6. Review of materials
a. Committee Member Comments
i. Follow Up Items to Discuss
1. Section D.2—Glazing Requirements
2. Section D.2.c—Definitions for Façade Standards
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3. Section B.4.bvi—Maintenance Buildings
The Committee began review of the proposed standards from the beginning as currently written
addressing the following elements or Sections of the document.
Green Building Design
Discussion occurred on if the standards as written discourage or prohibit certifications for sustainable
buildings. The Committee determined the standards do not.
5.05.08.B.3.a and 5.05.08.B.4.b.ii
The following language was submitted by Brad Schiffer:
"5.05.08 B.3.a
i. No nonconforming structure or vehicle use area may be enlarged or altered in a way
which increases its nonconformity, but may be altered to decrease its nonconformity.
ii. Should such nonconforming structure or vehicle use area be destroyed by any means to an
extent of more than fifty (50)percent of its actual replacement cost at time of destruction,
as determined by a cost estimate submitted to the site development review director, it shall
not be reconstructed except in conformity with provisions of this Section. "
Discussion occurred on the square footage threshold for the applicability to existing or small buildings
and if they should be increased or decreased.
Mr. Boughton moved to amend the Section 5.05.08.B.3.a to read"Additions to all existing
buildings: Where an alteration results in an addition(s)greater than 4,000 square feet offloor area,
the area changed by the alteration shall comply with LDC section 5.05.08"and Section
5.05.08.B.4.b.ii to read "Buildings with 4,000 square feet or less offloor area." Second by Mr.
Disney. Carried unanimously 5—0.
5.05.08.B.2.a and b.
The Committee reviewed the following language found in the applicability sections:
5.05.08 B.2.a— "The project site is located in a non-industrial zoning district and is abutting an
arterial or collector road. "
5.05.08 B.2.b— "The project site is located in an industrial zoning district which is located on an
arterial road. "
Discussion occurred on:
• How the term "abutting" is applied to a project site: In a PUD outparcels, or developments with
narrow strips of land between the road and the property deeded to separate entities (Florida
Power and Light, etc.) by developers render projects no longer "abutting" arterial or collector
roads.
• Are there parameters for determining if a road is a collector or arterial roadway. It was noted
the definitions of arterial and collector road are cited in the Growth Management Plan.
• The wording in the Sections differs ("abutting an arterial ...road" vs. "located on...road") and
the terminology should be consistent.
Staff reported they will review the Section and propose language to address the concerns raised by
the Committee.
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5.05.08.B.4 - Exceptions
The Committee discussed the ramification of exempting all uses in Agricultural Districts, including
non farming uses and determined lands located in the Agricultural Districts should not be subject to
the standards.
The Committee recommended Section 5.05.08.B.4.b.iv-Agricultural districts become 5.05.08.B.4.b
with the remaining Sections to be re-lettered as necessary.
5.05.08.B.4.b—Exceptions
Discussion occurred noting the Section provides exceptions for specific uses and determined only the
colors should be regulated, not the types of materials.
The Committee recommended this Section read "The following shall be exempt from the standards
of LDC section 5.05.08, but shall comply with the colors standards identified in LDC Section
5.05.08 D.12"
5.05.08.B.3.c—Nonconforming buildings
The Committee discussed the proposed requirement "Nonconforming buildings. Alterations to
nonconforming buildings shall be exempt from LDC Section 5.05.08, however, alterations shall be
reviewed to ensure any nonconforming features are not increased or enlarged"
The Committee noted their goal is to ensure owners of non conforming buildings are not overly
regulated when they want to improve the appearance of a structure, however want to prohibit
alterations that increase the non conforming nature of the building.
The following items were discussed:
• The feasibility of developing a minimum square footage threshold whereby the building or
alterations to a building would be exempted from the standards (i.e. 4,000 sq. ft.).
• Utilizing the Land Development Code Language as a basis— "No nonconforming structure or
vehicle use area may be enlarged or altered in a way which increases its nonconformity, but
may be altered to decrease its nonconformity" and "Should such nonconforming structure or
vehicle use area be destroyed by any means to an extent of more than fifty (50)percent of its
actual replacement cost at the time of destruction, as determined by a cost estimate submitted
to the site development review director, it shall not be reconstructed except in conformity with
the provisions of this Section. "
• Utilizing language such as "Alterations to the existing portions of non conforming buildings
shall be exempt from Section 5.05.08. "
Staff reported they will review the Section and propose language and ensure it is deemed "legally
sufficient"by the County Attorney's Office.
5.08.08.0 - Submittal requirements
Staff reported the Application requirements are cited in the Administrative Code and are cross
referenced in Section 5.05.08.
5.05.08.D—Building Design Standards
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The Committee noted a proposed building may be designed absent of a minimum glazing requirement
and discussed if a minimum standard should be added to some of the design standards of a building.
The following was noted:
• Although there is a small likelihood a building will be designed with no glazing, there are
certain uses that may opt to forego windows (gun ranges, etc.) if given the opportunity.
• A minimum threshold such as 15 percent could be incorporate into Sections 5.05.08.D.2.c.iii
(Monumental covered entrance with a minimum horizontal dimension of sixteen feet and a
minimum area of 200 square feet) and 5.05.08.D.c.iv (Covered walkway, or arcade (excluding
canvas type) constructed with columns at least 12 inches wide, attached to the building, or
located no more than 12 feet from the building. The structure must be permanent and its design
must relate to the principal structure. The minimum width must be eight feet, with a total
length measuring 40 percent of the length of he associated facade).
Staff requested the Committee to consider the item and bring a formal recommendation forward.
Primary Facades Facing 2 Roads
The Committee requested Staff ensure the requirements for buildings with primary facades facing
two applicable roads are clearly defined in the standards.
Public Comment
David Dunnavant addressed the Committee providing comment on the following sections:
5.05.08.B.2.a
a. "The project site is located in a non-industrial zoning district and is abutting an arterial or
collector road. "
5.05.08.B.2.b
b. "The project site is located in an industrial zoning district which is located on an arterial
road. "
He noted the language may be misinterpreted and recommended it be clarified that the standards are
applicable to a project abutting/located on an arterial/collector road and in an industrial zoning district.
5.05.08.D.5
5. "Window standards. Windows must not be false or applied. Spandrel panels in curtain wall
assemblies are allowed and may be included in the minimum glazing required for primary
facade.
He recommended false or applied windows be allowed given prohibiting the use of these materials
unnecessarily increases costs to buildings without a substantial aesthetic benefit to the public.
The committee requested staff to rewrite the language to allow for the use of false or applied glass
but that it should not be included in the minimum glazing requirements.
Section 5.05.08.D.8.b.i and ii.
b. Façades standards. All facades must meet the requirements of 5.05.08 C.5. Project standards.
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i. Primary facades. All exterior facades of freestanding structures, including structures
located on outparcels, are considered primary facades and must meet the requirements
of this section with respect to the architectural design treatment for primary facades -
section 5.05.08 C.2., except for those facades considered secondary facades.
ii. Secondary façades. One facade of a freestanding structure, including structures located
on outparcels, that is internal to the site and that does not abut or face public or private
streets adjacent to the development. Outparcels and freestanding buildings are allowed
one secondary façade.
He expressed concern that the language as shown below requires three primary facades for buildings
located on interior PUD outparcels. The requirement of three primary facades increases costs for the
construction of the building with minimal aesthetic benefit to the public. The wording "freestanding"
is especially problematic (versus those on out parcels) as this encompasses all buildings located in the
same plane line on one parcel in a PUD development. He recommended the design elements apply to
a façade facing a roadway
The Committee noted if you have a PUD, you may propose your own architectural standards.
Staff reported they will review the Section and propose any changes as necessary.
Section 5.05.08.D.8.6— Overhead Doors
6. Required screening. Overhead doors located on the primary facade shall provide adequate
screening. Sufficient screening is defined as a screening wall, with a minimum height of 90
percent of the overhead door height, or a landscape buffer achieving 75 percent opacity within
one year. The placement and the length of these screening devices must block the view of the
overhead doors from the street. "
He expressed concern the threshold requirement shown below of a screening wall 90 percent of the
overhead door length is too great an area. He suggested limiting the maximum height to eight feet.
Section 5.05.08.D.4.t
t. "Solar shading devices (excluding awnings) that extend a cover a minimum of 50 percent of
the building facade. "
Expressed concern the language listed below is impractical or in error given the minimum percentage
requirement and because it doesn't make sense.
Section 5.05.08.E.3.c
c. All areas with the building that can be accommodated within a space with a ceiling height of
16 feet or less must be designed and built within a single story envelope or a multiple of
envelopes. These building envelopes must have a maximum eave height of 16 feet and must be
expressed as single story elements in the architectural form of the building along the building
edge or edges that front the public right-of-way. These areas must include, but are not limited
to:
i. The management and business office.
ii. Check out area.
iii. Rest rooms.
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iv. Customer service area.
v. Food service areas.
Requested clarification on the Section listed above.
The Committee reported this Section has been eliminated.
He concluded noting it critical the standards are crafted to allow owners of non conforming buildings
to upgrade their structures, even if they cannot fully comply with the regulations. As the standards
currently exists, owners of these buildings do not have the economic incentive to make improvements
as they cannot realize a return on the investment if they are required to fully comply with all aspects of
the standards. Absent of a provision addressing these buildings, they generally become a blight on the
community as their aesthetic appeal deteriorates over time, decreasing the economic value of the site.
Staff reported the comments will be reviewed and they will discuss proposed changes with the
Committee as necessary.
7. Stealth Codes
The Committee recommended Staff bring forward any policies that have been developed in
implementing the standards so they may be reviewed to determine if they should be incorporated into
the proposed standards. An example was given whereby overhead doors comprised of glass panels are
not considered by Staff to be"overhead doors" under the standards.
8. Finalize Schedule
The Committee noted it may be prudent to disseminate the proposed standards to the public so
individuals such as architects, engineers, contractors or other interested parties may provide comment
to the Committee.
Staff noted the proposed amendment should be deemed "legally sufficient"by the County
Attorney's Office before this process begins.
9. Adjournment
Being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 4:50pm
Collier County Architectural and Site Design
Standards Ad Hoc Committee
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These minutes a e 'ed by the Board/Committee/Chairman/Vice Chairman on //' J( , 2014
as presented v or as amended
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