BCC Minutes 05/01/2001 W (w/EDC re:Economic Development)May 1, 2001
REGULAR MEETING OF MAY 1, 2001
OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORKSHOP
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Board of County
Commissioners in and for the County of Collier, and also acting
as the Board of Zoning Appeals and as the governing board(s) of
such special districts as have been created according to law and
having conducted business herein, met on this date at 9 a.m. In
WORKSHOP SESSION in Building "F" of the Government Complex,
East Naples, Florida, with the following members present:
CHAIRMAN:
VICE-CHAIRMAN:
JAMES D. CARTER, PH.D
PAMELA S. MAC'KIE
JIM COLETTA
DONNA FIALA
TOM HENNING
ALSO PRESENT:
TOM OLLIFF, COUNTY MANAGER
GREG MIHALIC, DIRECTOR OF HOUSING
AND URBAN IMPROVEMENT
JOHN DUNNUCK, INTERIM
ADMINISTRATOR, COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT AND ENVIRONMENTAL
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SERVICES
ALAN REYNOLDS, CHAIRMAN, EDC
ROBERT E. DOYLE, ESQ., CHAIRMAN
ELECT
SUSAN PAREIGIS, PRESIDENT, EDC
JOHN PASSIDOMO, ESQ.
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2000-2001 Board of Directors
Chairman
Alan Reynolds
President & CEO
WilsonMiller, Inc.
Immediate Past Chairman
Colleen M. Kvetko
President & CEO
Fifth Third Bank, Florida
Chairman Elect
Robert E. Doyle, Jr.
Partner
Quarles & Brady LLP
President
Susan E. Pareigis
Economic Development Council
of Collier County, Inc.
Vice Presidents
Nell Dorrill
President
Dorrill Management Group
Gerri Moll
President
Bank of America, South'vest Florida
Adria Parsons
Gulf Coast Regional President
First Union National Bank
Directors
Michael S. Battaglia
President & CEO
SmortDisk Corporation
Brad Boaz
Chief Financial Officer
Barron Collier Companies
Buddy W. Brunker
Public Affairs Manager
Sprint
Laura H. Dixon
Chief Executive Officer
Haynes Corporation
Tom Flood
Chief Executive Officer
Collier Enterprises
Harry K. Moon, M.D.
Chief Executive Officer
Cleveland Clinic Florida
Richard Pegnetter
Dean of College of Business
Florida Gulf Coast University
Fred Pezeshkan
President & CEO
Kraft Construction Company, Inc.
Stephen L. Price
President & CEO
Florida Community Bank
Thomas Riley
President & Owner
Artisans' Guild of Naples, Inc.
Michel Saadeh
President & CEO
Vineyards Development Corporation
Thomas M. Taylor
President & CEO
Hole, Montes & Associates, Inc.
James Warnken
Chief Financial Officer
NCH Healthcare System, Inc.
9am
9:05
9:10
9:15
9:30
Dr. James Carter
Chairman, BCC
Economic Development Workshop
May 1,2001
Public/Private Partnership
Agenda
Tom Olliff,
County Manager
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL
OF COLLIER COUNTY
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Welcoming Remarks Fax: 941-263-6021
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email: edc@swfloridabusiness.com
Opening Remarks
John Dunnuck,
Interim Administrator
Community Development and Envirbnmental Services
Al Reynolds
Chairman, EDC
Hank Fishkind
Fishkind & Associates
Hank Fishkind Introduction
Al Reynolds
Chairman, EDC
Economic Overview
John Passidomo
Chairman, 1995 - 1997
Immediate Past Chairman, 1998
Public/Private Partnership
Presentation
Greg Mihalic
Director, Housing & Urban Improvement
Susan Pareigis
President, EDC
Robin Doyle
Chairman Elect, EDC
10:25 Al Reynolds
Chairman, EDC
Closing Remarks
10:30 - 11:30 Q & A
May 1, 2001
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Good morning, ladies and
gentlemen. Welcome to the economic development workshop. If
the cameras are rolling, we are live from the Board of County
Commissioners's room with the Economic Development Council.
If you all will stand for the pledge of allegiance.
(The pledge of allegiance was recited in unison.)
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Mr. Olliff, I will turn the meeting
over to you, and you can direct staff, and the EDC takes forward,
please.
MR. OLLIFF: Mr. Chairman and Commissioners, thanks again
for taking the time to come and spend a morning dealing with a
particular subject. This morning we're talking about economic
development. We look around and see that the Economic
Development Council members, most of them who are here, are
flexible to understand that jackets are -- are optional here at our
workshops. I'm glad to see you got comfortable. MR. DOYLE: I'll get mine off right away.
MR. OLLIFF: Robin can't help it. He wears a sports coat at
night at home.
Historically the county has participated at a limited extent
in terms of economic development, primarily in -- in the way of
providing some funding to the EDC for some of their annual
ongoing efforts. And, frankly, that's probably more of a recent
phenomenon than it was a historical trend. If you look, however,
at communities around the country, I think you will see that
economic development in a lot of communities plays a very
important part in a local government's strategic planning. The
local government is very, very much involved in what economic
development goals and -- and efforts are going on throughout the
community. I think they are much more of a partner in a lot of
cases than in Collier County has been in years past. And I think
a lot of that's just strictly a result of, frankly, the luxury of this
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economy and the growth rate and things that we have and
almost take for granted that this -- this economy chugs along
without a lot of hands-on work from -- from your local
government.
But as you've heard us say before, I think development,
which is one of the mainstays of -- of this economy is something
that you can see in -- in the distant future changing, and
Economic Development Council, I think, recognizes that in order
to be more than just a service economy, there's probably some
proactive steps that need to be taken.
And one of the things especially for the new commissioners
we wanted you to know is that this is a very aggressive EDC and
that they have done a lot of tremendous work with very little in --
in terms of resource support from the county. But I would like for
you to get from this workshop an idea of what's happened
historically, what the EDC is -- is currently doing, and what their
plans are for the future and then hopefully some idea of what
county government's role in -- in all of that is as we go forward.
Be free to -- to ask questions as we go along because I know
that the people who are here in this room can answer those
questions for you. And just in a little housekeeping matter, if
there are members of the public here who want to speak, we
have some speaker slips out in the hallway. Greg's holding one
up. If you'll fill one of those out and give that to Greg Mihalic, the
fella here in the light gray suit who just held up that speaker slip,
we'll have an opportunity for public speakers at the end of the
workshop. With that, Mr. Chairman, I'll turn it over to Greg.
MR. MIHALIC: Well, good morning, Commissioners. We
certainly are pleased to have you here and to talk about
economic development. Obviously we are one of the fastest-
growing areas in the country. And our economic development
and economic diversity are very important. And we do this in
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partnership with the EDC. We think this is a well-working
partnership. We hope to show you this morning what's been
accomplished over the first three years in this program. Al? Al
Reynolds, the chairman of the EDC.
MR. REYNOLDS: Thanks. I -- I have the pleasure of serving
this year as the chairman of the EDC. On behalf of the entire
board, I want to thank the county commission for -- and Tom
Olliff for having the leadership to organize the workshop. We
have been partners in economic development for about three and
a half years, and this is the first time that we've had the
opportunity to meet with the board in a workshop setting, and it's
a real privilege for us, and we appreciate it very much.
I also want to start out by thanking Greg Mihalic because
Greg is our liaison, our staff liaison, with Collier County. And
Greg is a -- is a true professional. He understands economic
development. He's a pleasure to work with, and he is -- he's a -- a
great resource for Collier County and for us. And so I want to
express appreciation to the board for having someone of Greg's
caliber as a -- as a staff liaison with us.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: I just have to jump in there and
say and leave him alone. We like him working for the county.
MS. PAREIGIS: We do too.
MR. REYNOLDS: I want to introduce -- we have several
members of our board of directors and of the staff of the
Economic Development Council, and I just want to introduce
them very quickly so that you know who is here in the audience.
And I will -- the people who are going to be part of the -- of the
discussion today from the EDC we'll -- we'll save till last. But I
want to identify in the audience, we have board members. We
have Steve Price who is -- who is with us, Steve. We have Jim
Warnken -- Jim, thank you for coming -- Brad Boaz, he's a member
of the board of directors; Dr. Richard Pegnetter from Florida Gulf
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Coast University; and -- Neil. Oh, Neil, I didn't see you behind
there, Neil Dorrill.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Forgive my ignorance. Will you
tell us the businesses, organizations these other board members
represent? I just don't know.
MR. REYNOLDS: Yes. Jim Warnken is with the Naples
Community Hospital Foundation. Steve Price is with Community
Bank in Immokalee; Richard Pegnetter with Florida Gulf Coast
University; Brad Boaz is the chief financial officer for the Barron
Collier Company; and Neil is with Dorrill Management Services.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Thank you.
MR. REYNOLDS: And then as part of the board members
that are going to be part of the discussion today, Robin Doyle,
who is the chair elect of the Economic Development Council, is
here. Robin is an attorney with Quarles & Brady. We have John
Passidomo, who is a past chair, no longer on the board. I'm sure
he's appreciative of that but served -- served for a number of
years as part of the EDC's board, and he's going to talk a little bit
about the inception of public-private partnership, so we
appreciate you being here. And we also have as part of the staff
as the EDC Robbin Koch. Robbin, Tammy McEIroy, Joe
Greenfield, Jesse Hensen, and Susan Pareigis, who is the
president. So I wanted to introduce those folks.
We have a Powerpoint presentation, and -- and what the
presentation will do is walk through a little bit of the background
of Collier County's place in the economy, some of the rationale
for why economic development is -- is important to Collier
County. We're going to talk a little bit about how the inception of
the EDC and the public-private partnership was started, and then
we're going to talk at the end about the strategic direction in the
future and some of the important initiatives that we see.
So Ken -- and I failed to mention Ken Sneeding (phonetic).
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Ken has -- I shouldn't have overlooked Ken. He has also helped
us tremendously with putting together the information that -- that
you're going to see today. Thanks, Ken.
Just start out with a real -- what is the essence, we think, of
economic development. And we think the part of what makes
economic development work is that the mission is very clear.
Economic development is about high-wage job creation and
retention. That is the fundamental message and the fundamental
importance of economic development. And it's accomplished
through a public-private partnership between Collier County and
the private sector via the EDC.
We all know about the historical growth in Collier County, I
think it's -- again, it's important to understand that -- that -- that
the things that have driven Collier County's growth over the past
several decades have been quality of life, climate, recreational
opportunities, the environmental amenities, the advantages that
we have, the cultural amentities. Basically Collier County is a
fantastic place to live; it's an attractive place to live. It has a
tremendous reputation. And those are the things that have
driven population growth, but they are also our key assets in
trying to diversify our economy and make it attractive to -- to
businesses that are looking to grow in Collier County.
Collier County's economic base is -- is unique to a large
degree in part because of the demographics of Collier County.
But we have what we call is a two-tiered economy. And the two-
tiered economy is that there are two fundamental pieces of our
economic strength in -- related to personal income. And if you
look at the total personal income on the slide here, you'll see
that we have a very high level of personal income. But you'll also
note that wages and salaries are a small component of that and
disproportionately small component. The reason for that, if we
can go to the next slide -- and you'll see here on the statistics --
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this -- this identifies personal income in Collier County by the
source. You'll see in the upper left-hand side that dividends,
interest, and rent, basically investment income, is nearly half of
the total income in Collier County. Wages and salaries, on the
other hand, is 42 percent, and then the remainder is made up by -
- by things such as social security. If you compare that to Florida
as a comparison, you're going to see that Florida and most other
parts of the country, wages and salaries are the predominant
component of personal income.
Collier County has the highest median family income in the
State of Florida. But, again, we have great diversity in Collier
County. And what this -- what this shows is that our median
family income in Collier County, which is just over $50,000, we
have taken various communities within Collier County and shown
you the median family income by community. And what you can
see, again, is that there is a broad range depending on the part of
Collier County that you're looking at. Again, this is driven
predominantly by the fact that the passive income is a
substantial component of the economy.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Do you have a slide that's going
to show us that with earned income as opposed to passive
income? I've been so curious to know what the average earned
income is in Collier County as opposed to the average income.
MR. MIHALIC: Wages will be coming up.
MR. REYNOLDS: We'll have that.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Do we get a slide of this? This is
pretty interesting.
MR. MIHALIC: In your book. All the slides are in your book.
MR. REYNOLDS: Yeah. The entire presentation will be -- is
part of your book. You will have all of this information. And
there is certainly a lot of data that -- that stands behind this so
that if there are other kinds of information that you'd like that
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gets in more detail, we have a great data source that we put
together.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Ellen, what really is critical here
is that Jim and I, Jim Coletta and I, being in Tallahassee, is that
the confusion in the governor's office is that they look at these
high numbers and say why can't a wealthy county take care of
their own services. That's not the issue here. It is what is really
what you earn here is the number, and that is one of our ma]or
challenges, to get people to understand the real life is around
twenty-six or twenty-seven thousand dollars, not seventy-two
thousand.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: And, of course --
COMMISSIONER CARTER: That's a major problem for us.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: And, of course, our -- our rents for
our -- our wage earners are based upon average income rather
than wage. And I -- that's been my -- I've been lucky enough to --
to be able to head that for our commissioner group, the
affordable housing or work-force housing in our community. And
it's one of the things I would like to see if we can get a special
dispensation or something because I feel it's a -- it's -- it's not a
fair reflection of what these people earn to be -- to have their
housing -- the housing rents based upon average income so --
MR. REYNOLDS: Yeah. And you're going to see that some of
these statistics that we're sharing with you drive a number of
trends as they relate to both economic development and -- and
some of the larger issues that Collier County faces like work-
force housing.
Let's go to the next -- so now we -- if -- if we take the -- the
wages and salary component, basically the earned income, what
you'll know probably by intuition is borne out by fact, and that is
that the four largest private-sector industries that we have in
Collier County are construction, services, retail, and agriculture.
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And if you look at this, you'll see the average annual wage in
those industries. So our four largest are also our four lowest
paying. And eight out of every ten people that work in Collier
County work in one of these four existing private industries. I
think this really drives home the point about the importance of
high-wage ]ob creation.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Al, can you tell us what's in the
transportation element, what kind of jobs are in that? Taxi?
MR. REYNOLDS: Yeah. That includes -- that includes
aerospace, airport, anything to do with trans -- taxis. I don't
know. Robbin, do you know off -- MS. KOCH: Trucking.
MR. REYNOLDS: Trucking. Yeah.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: So those are -- those are jobs
that pay well which we have very few of in Collier County.
MR. REYNOLDS: That's right. Yeah. And -- and -- again, the
4 top average annual wage categories represent only 17 percent
of our entire private-sector economy.
Next. This -- this slide probably is both the good news -bad
news slide. The good news is that we have enjoyed a fairly high
employment growth in Collier County, and we've given you just a
couple comparisons over a five-year period. You can see that on
a percentage basis and a total number of job basis, we have
created more lobs in Collier County than in Lee County, for
example, which has a substantially larger population base.
The good news -- or that's the good news. The bad news is,
again, that predominantly the ]ob creation that we're
experiencing is in the lower-wage segments of the economy.
Next. So all this leads to, I think, the question of why is
economic development and diversification of the economy
important. And what we've done is identified what we think are
the five key reasons why we should strive for -- for strong
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economic development. The first is that -- that Collier County in
particular relies very heavily on its residential tax base for
funding its services and facilities. The more that you grow high-
wage jobs, the more you're able to shift some of that burden over
to the business side of the -- the equation.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: We could now have our screen
out there as one of those questions. What percentage of the ad
valorem tax rate is paid by the -- by the residents versus the
industrial base? You know, we can put it right out there and
later answer that question.
MR. REYNOLDS: That's right.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: The listening audience would
absolutely die.
MR. REYNOLDS: Yeah.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: You could hit that at the end.
MR. REYNOLDS: Actually, we'll hit it sooner than the end
because I think we have a slide right after this that's going to
show that.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Ask and you shall receive.
MR. REYNOLDS: I think we may have a slide on each one of
these -- on each one of these issues.
The second one is the seasonal -- seasonality of our
economy in Collier County. And, again, it's -- it's no secret that
we experience a fairly dramatic seasonal shift, again, because so
many of our jobs are driven by -- by construction and tourism
which has a seasonal swing.
The third is we need to be creating better-paying jobs so
that our children and our grandchildren can enjoy a higher earned
income. They don't have the benefit of creating their wealth
through investments. You know, investment income is imported
wealth, if you will. So we need to have opportunities for our kids
and our grandkids. And this is an issue in Collier County. It's an
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issue state-wide.
The next bullet is -- is vitally important, and that is, we have
to reduce our dependence on population-driven jobs. Population
growth has been driving our economy for a long time. Population
growth is going to start to level out. And, again, what we're
looking for are jobs that do not rely on a population growth to
create now jobs, new opportunities.
And if you take those and -- and combine them, I think, from
our point of view, the -- the answer is it's really about improving
the quality of life for everybody in the county, because if we can
have a stronger, more diversified economic base with greater
opportunities, less reliant on population-driven jobs and
construction, we -- we improve the entire foundation for Collier
County. Go to the next.
Here's the -- the slide that shows what -- what Commissioner
Carter was pointing out, and that is 83 percent of our taxable
value is in residential. That is a substantial difference from, for
example, Florida as a whole, which is less than 3/4, about 74
percent. And even that percentage -- you know, that's 9 percent,
may not seem significant. But I will tell you it's a huge, huge
difference. And you'll see, too, that in -- in agriculture, we're
pretty much consistent with the state in terms of our tax base,
about 2 percent. But our commercial, nonresidential tax base is
substantially less than -- than the state as a whole. Next.
Here's the -- here's what shows the -- really, two things. No.
I is this shows the seasonality of employment in Collier County.
But we thought it was important to show a comparison because,
again, this is a good news slide, to a certain extent. And that is,
in 1996 we had a -- a very dramatic seasonal swing. We have
been creating more high-wage jobs in Collier County in the last
four years. And the economy has been improving. So the result
of those two things is that we have been reducing the
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unemployment rates to the point where, for example, in 2000, in
the summer, our -- our unemployment rate was below 6 percent.
That's -- that's good. But you'll see, too, that the U.S., which is
the red line that runs through the slide, which shows the U.S. As
an average, doesn't have that swing. So, again, we're reducing
the unemployment rate. We're flattening out the curve, but we
certainly have a long ways to go before we have reached a stable
year-round economy.
Now, this shows ]ob creation based on average annual
wage. And, again, we compare Collier County; we show Florida;
then we show the United States. The first obvious is that the
average wage in Collier County is substantially below both
Florida and the U.S. Again, that's because of the dependence on
the Iow-wage economy. But you'll also notice that -- that since
the start of the public-private partnership, we have had a -- a
fairly dramatic increase, and we're closing the gap on -- on
Florida. So you'll see that all of the trim lines are certainly
upwards. But we think that the good news here is that we're
starting to get ourselves much closer to the average annual
wage base in the State of Florida as a whole.
Now, what this shows is the average annual wage in -- in
absolute dollars. And, again, we go back to 1996, which the
average annual wage was 23,000. That has risen in 1999 to
$27,500. That is still below the state average. But, again, we're -
- we're making improvements. In that four-year period, I think
that represents about an 18 percent increase in average annual
wage. I'm sorry, in a three-year period.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: What is important for the Collier
County commissioners is if you see us taking place here, why we
did our paid plan adjustment as Commissioner Mac'Kie and I
supported last year, this brought county government into a
competitive role of the private sector in this county. So you will
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see the second piece of that in this budget cycle along with the
pay for performance. So it's -- it's -- remember, it's there. You're
going to get that spike again. It's just going to level off, if I'm
correct.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Alan, could I ask you, being that
we're still lower than Florida average wage, where are we in the
cost of living as far as Florida and Collier County?
MR. REYNOLDS: I don't know if we have a -- do we have a
slide --
MR. MIHALIC: No. There's no slide. But we're higher than
the state average, Commissioner.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yeah. I could have bet on that one,
but I just wanted to hear it. Okay.
MR. REYNOLDS: Of course, housing costs are dramatically
higher, and that's one of the primary components, I think. In
other segments, we are -- we tend to be much closer to state
averages. But housing costs are dramatically higher.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I was wondering if we could ever
get a figure like that.
MR. MIHALIC: Sure.
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: You know what would be most
helpful, you know, is we'd ever get a map that would show
something as far as the diversity of employment wages by
sections of the county rather than just label it Golden Gate or
Immokalee -- .
MR. REYNOLDS: Uh-huh.
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: -- possibly something in the way
with belts on it that could follow through. I can -- I'd be very
interested to be able to see that.
MR. REYNOLDS: Well, I think we can generate that because
we have some good -- good data sources, and it's questionable
what -- what information would be helpful, so I think we can
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generate -- ·
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: It would be very nice to see it. I
got a feeling when you get close to the coast, this is no longer a
problem.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: You know, now that you mention
that and you're talking about good sources for demographics,
one of the problems that -- that we had over -- when I used to
work for the hospital, we had a -- we had a new guy come into
town, and he was getting his demographics from New York. And
so he wanted to figure out where we needed new facilities and
so forth. And he was coming up with his demographics from a
New York firm who was figuring the City of Naples to have the
ZIP codes of-- one of them included 34112, which is -- of course,
is East Naples. And he figured East Naples as having a ZIP Code
of 34116 and 34117, which was Golden Gate. And I felt that
unless you have somebody close to town like a Chuck Mohlke,
for instance, who actually knows the area and knows how to
divide that, I don't think you ever really get true demographics
for this area. So I -- I would guess the EDC is using somebody
locally rather than out of state; right ?
MS. PAREIGIS: We use many sources. We use Claratoss
(phonetic). Yeah, we use Bureau of Economic and Research at
the University of Florida. We use census data. We use all kinds
of information. Again, Commissioner Fiala, it's really important
when you're looking at the specific statistic that you're looking
for that you use an appropriate resource for that. So as you look
at our -- our handouts, in the market facts you will see that there
are many different sources that we use for different data. But we
can definitely get you cost of living, and we can also show you by
different types of data how that's broken down, whether it's by
ZIP, whether it's by census track, or what the methodology is.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yeah, I'm -- I'm concerned with that.
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One of the -- the last times I got a figure from you for
demographics was for East Naples in particular, and it showed
that 52 percent of our -- of our residents were actually retired. I
think that surprised the daylights out of me, and I know it did for
other people as well, because most people felt that East Naples
was comprised mostly of the work force. So I was wondering
how that comes out again, but I want a true demographic source,
not somebody from New York who really doesn't know the area.
Okay. Thank you.
MR. MIHALIC: Commissioner, the new -- a lot of the private
demographic information sources are using 1990 census as a
primary part of their data. With the new census now taken, that
should be out in a couple of years, and that will give us really
good primary data up to that date for now what Collier County
looks like.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: You can have primary data, but if
you don't put it into the computer properly, if you put the wrong
ZIPs into the wrong area, that primary data doesn't do you any
good at all.
MR. REYNOLDS: Well, Commissioner -- and I'll just point out
that -- that we have on staff Robbin Koch who happens to be the
one that analyzes a lot of this data and puts it in an intelligent
form for us.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: She knows where they go.
MR. REYNOLDS: She knows both the sources --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Okay.
MR. REYNOLDS: -- and how to ground truth it, if you will, to --
to Collier County. So that's one of the important resources we've
got.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Thank you, Alan.
MR. REYNOLDS: I'm going to turn now to John who is -- is
going to lead us through the formation of the public-private
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partnership. John.
MR. PASSIDOMO: Thanks, Alan. Good morning,
Commissioners. Alan and Susan asked me to share an historical
perspective, and I'd be happy to do it and a privilege to loin you
this morning.
As the slide indicates, the 1996 action agenda, some 5 years
ago of the Board of County Commissioners identified a diversified
economy with expanding ]ob opportunities as one of the primary
objectives for Collier County. And that objective was borne of
the recognition that an economy based primarily on industries
who had to do construction, services, tourism, and retail had
several things in common: Low-paying jobs, seasonality,
vulnerability to fluctuations in global economic trends over which
we had no control, and, most significantly -- and Alan alluded to it
-- there are population-driven industries, economy based
exclusively on driving more and more people into Collier County
to sustain the quality of life that we come to enjoy. And that
Board of County Commissioners and the EDC recognized that we
could not sustain an economy based on population-driven
industries.
Faced with this challenge, the Board of County
Commissioners appointed a council of economic advisors. And
among that group -- with Jim Loskill as its chair and
Commissioner Jim Carter as its vice-chair. And they worked for
an extended period of time. And the results of that work was
based on several basic principles. First is that -- Alan alluded to
this statistic too, and you-all knew-- know it intuitively, that
although we have the highest median income in the State of
Florida, we have an average wage below even the average wage
in the State of Florida. It is an extraordinary gap in Collier
County between the haves and the have-nots. There's little
opportunity for upward mobility for working people. There's little
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opportunity for talented young people to come home to Collier
County after completing their education elsewhere. And very
little of that unearned income is invested locally. Very little of it
is put back into the local economy. So although we had a very
high average wage, it was a misleading statistic because the
community and the public and the people that you serve, to a
great extent, didn't enjoy that very high wage.
The Council of Economic Advisors also realized -- and Alan
has alluded to it -- that the tax burden was shared
disproportionately by homeowners. And it projected that if that
trend continued that there be either an increase in taxes, a
reduction in services, or compromise our quality of life, one of
the three, none of which are appealing.
And so on October 1st, 1997, a partnership was formed
between the Economic Development Council and the Board of
County Commissioners. And that partnership reflects the long-
term commitment on behalf of the public and private sectors in
Collier County for an economy based on high-wage job
generation. And, in fact, it's reflected in the EDC mission
statement which was adopted a year or two before to be an
effective force in improving the quality of life for all people in
Collier County by diversifying the economy; creating high-wage
value-added jobs; increasing the average wage; facilitating
capital formation; importantly, preserving and enhancing the
natural environment; and, finally, enabling all county residents to
have a meaningful opportunity for upward mobility, in effect
building the economy based on quality and not quantity.
The Board of County Commissioners, driven by the Council
of Economic Advisors also recognized that, that there are
distinct roles and responsibilities for the private and public
sectors. They recognized a public sector responsibility to
identify the policy objective, high-wage job creation, how many,
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where, and to invest significantly towards that policy objective.
It recognized that there was a private sector role and
responsibility to provide the means to achieve the policy
objectives through marketing, through business research,
through business assistance but to provide the means through
the private sector, and also for the private sector to make a
significant economic contribution toward achieving the public
sector policy objective. It also identified the EDC as the central
focal point to lead that effort. And the three-year return on
investment has been a significant one.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Oh, please, let there be a
headline that shows this. Of all the things we haven't done well
over the past three years, but, boy, here is a winner. Thank you
very much, EDC, for the partnership.
MR. PASSIDOMO: Well, Commissioner-- and Commissioner
Mac'Kie was on the Board of County Commissioners and a driving
force four and five years ago when the policy objectives and the
investment was made to the units. I think the entire Board of
County Commissioners, Commissioner Mac'Kie, Commissioner
Carter, because of the roles they played, from the privates -- from
the public sector, deserve the credit for what we think is a
commendable and envious return on your investment. And,
Commissioner Mac'Kie, with your indulgence, I'll read it. For
every $1 invested by the county, $139 was added directly to the
local economy through wages and capital investment.
We've got some background information to help you
understand how that information was derived, which this is a
three-year statistic; indicates that total jobs created -- these are
high-wage jobs created. Focal point of the partnership, the focal
part of the EDC mission, is the creation of high-wage jobs. Some
1,573 high-wage jobs to some 33 different expansion and
relocation projects created an average wage of some $34,000
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resulting in a direct earnings impact of over 53 million dollars
and capital investment of almost 50 million dollars for the direct
economic impact of 103.3 million dollars over the last 3 years as
a re-ult -- result of the partnership.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Yeah, that's a nice one.
MR. PASSIDOMO: Yeah, that is a nice one. That one shows
a public sector investment over 3 years of some $744,000 with a
resulting return on investment of $103,292,153. A pretty good
return.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: How do we really communicate
this to everyone in the community? You know, I -- I -- we
understand it. We know what a tremendous impact that it's
made. We know all the national trends that were taking place in
the very competitive marketplaces, and we have a lot of
obstacles to overcome here. But if I'm out there listening this
morning, you know, what -- what does that mean in terms of
what's in it for me. I'm always back to that. For the person
walking around out there sitting in an engineering office, in a law
office, or at home or whatever they're doing, we've got to find
some better ways to translate what is a huge return of putting
some money into something and getting more back into
something that the people day-to-day can relate to, and I'd like to
have the answer to that this morning. We need to go there.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Well, Commissioner, I think one
of the things that will provide some of that information is what
you asked for earlier, which is how has the tax base diversified
and come -- how has our reliance on property taxes been reduced
as a result of this economic development? And -- because that's
a pocketbook issue. And that's -- bottom line, what people want
to know is, okay, you spent $750,000. It helped the economy.
Now show me, you know, how it reduced my taxes. That's what
they want to know. And it -- I think we should be able to show
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that. I think that that -- as -- as John said, was one of the -- well,
it was the first goal.
MR. PASSIDOMO: Uh-huh.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: As we talked about starting the
partnership to eliminate or to reduce the reliance on property
taxes so --
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Maybe when we started, John, a
number 87 percent sticks in my head somewhere. If we brought
it down 5 percent -- we may -- if we're showing, of course, your
assessed valuation takes the tax rate up, but if you wouldn't
have done this, it would have been a nice comparison to say,
suppose we wouldn't have accomplished this. Let me show you
what it would have been out of your pocketbook.
MR. PASSIDOMO: Commissioner--
COMMISSIONER CARTER: If we can start communicating
those things, I think it's a far bigger impact than -- I mean, this is
great. But we need to take it the next step, show average
homeowners, bang, this is what it did for you.
MR. PASSIDOMO: I think, as Commissioner Mac'Kie
indicated, reflecting on the original objectives for the private-
public partnership are probably the place to start. We're looking
to shift the tax burden from the homeowner. We're looking to
create opportunities for upward mobility for average folks. We're
looking to increase the average wage. We're looking to create
capital formation to make sure that people who live here earn
passive income invest here. There is enormous resources in this
community that we don't capture.
And so reflecting on why the partnership was formed in the
first place, what the problem statements were, and how we're
attempting to address those problem statements, they're
indicating, Mr. Chairman, really are the way to make these
statistics meaningful to average folks because, frankly, we're
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talking about public sector objectives and public sector dollars.
But when we're talking about public sector dollars, you should
recognize that although the public sector contributed some
$744,000, which let me suggest is an amount that I don't believe
was equivalent to the amount of occupational tax dollars paid by
the business community over the same period of time, so
basically you have $744,000 from the public sector but, with all
due respect, paid by local businesses.
In addition to that --
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Very key point, John. Very key
point. Not one ad valorem tax dollar was ever spent to get this
movement for you.
MR. PASSIDOMO: That's correct, Commissioner. And that --
and that's -- that was what the Council of Economic Advisors and
the EDC proposed at that time, that we think that this -- this kind
of thing makes good economic sense, this is the kind of
investment we should be making but have the private sector
side, local businesses through the occupational license tax they
pay for which, with all due respect, they receive no benefit
whatsoever and have that invested in creating ]ob opportunities
for average folks to create opportunities for upward mobility for
them and for their families, create a better sense of community,
create a better quality of life.
In addition to that, the EDC investment was some
$1,129,000, so the difference, in addition to the broad-based
contribution from the entire business community of three-
quarters of a million dollars, the EDC through its membership
contributed over a million one hundred thousand dollars. So you
see the -- the contribution is some $2 million, but we respectfully
suggest it as all coming out of the business community, either
through dues payers at the EDC or through occupational license
taxes. We're off to a good start. Working together we built a
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solid foundation for economic prosperity. We're looking forward
to working, continuing to work with you and building an economy
based on quality and not quantity. Thanks very much.
MR. MIHALIC: Well, you know, Commissioners, we set up
this private-public partnership, and it really has worked well.
And we really have to compare it to one of our neighbors, Lee
County, to see how well it is working. And Lee County spends
over $2 million in direct ad valorem taxes for the economic
development effort, and it runs out of their county. And they
essentially have about 15 employees, county employees, running
their economic development program where the EDC has 6, and
we have one on the public sector side. And yet we are much
more effective in the number of jobs we've created and retained
than they have been. And it's because of the public-private
model that's been set up. I think that's important.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: And I think even if our
structuring, Greg, as you're talking, if we begin to shift any ad
valorem taxes into our equation, if -- I say that with a big if -- we
would -- we have a model that would get us more than what
they're getting for theirs. And that would be key, because they
are substantially ahead of us in a lot of these factors in terms of
what they're able to do and in terms of tracking business. And I
know of affiliation with the EDC in the years that I've worked
with them, that's the case. But we're -- we have made
tremendous strides with what we've done with our model. MR. MIHALIC: Yes.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: I would look -- and I know I'm way
ahead of this. I'm looking to enhance our model, keep stepping it
forward so that they really know that we are a competitor here,
and we have an awful lot to offer in Collier County.
MR. MIHALIC: A pro business attitude by the public sector is
very important in making this work. The private sector investor
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has to feel that they have the public sector behind them to help
them accomplish what they need to accomplish, and that's
important. Do you want to -- Susan, do you want to take the
target industries?
MS. PAREIGIS: Yeah. The target industries for Collier
County include aviation, aerospace, health technology,
information technology, and light manufacturing. I will share
with you that these industries are among the fastest-growing and
highest-paying industries in Collier County.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Susan, what is our opportunities
at the airport in Immokalee towards the aviation?
MS. PAREIGIS: I will also share with you that in those
targeted areas are corporate headquarters research and
development and also wholesale trade and distribution which we
think is very appropriate for the Immokalee corridor. We have
spent the last couple of years doing a lot of legwork in getting a
lot of designations, if you will, for that Immokalee airport. And
we think now that we have the foreign trade zone designation,
we have the Florida entrepreneurial investment zone, we also
have the empowerment alliance, if you will. But it's really
focused on how can we get the infrastructure at that site. We do
have labor in the market there in Immokalee. We have hard-
working labor, good, strong work ethic. The need is now that we
will have a bonded customs facility on site there to clear cargo,
if you will, on site in Immokalee. We also think that that foreign
trade zone benefit will be of special significance to the
Immokalee airport in that Tampa is landlocked and the Miami
airport is landlocked. We see that geography of Immokalee being
central to expansion in that corridor. So we see a lot of promise
in the Immokalee area in the enterprise zone.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Is that going to happen
overnight, or is it going to be a long period of time ?
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MS. PAREIGIS.' We would think -- and we would want to
share with you from the beginning that all of this that we're
talking about today is long term. Economic development, in its
very essence and nature, is a long-term commitment to the
market. This is not turning it on a dime. This is long-term
commitment to make sure that we have systematic change in
the diversification of the economic base.
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Susan, can I ask you a question,
please, concerning Immokalee? Have you factored in what the
difference would make to Immokalee if Immokalee Road was four
laned all the way to Immokalee? Would that have a dramatic
impact on the community?
MS. PAREIGIS: We believe that that is a vital part of how are
we going to connect Immokalee with the rest of the world. One
of the criteria for us in citing with specific clients is the criteria
of the ability to move goods and services to market. So the
ability to move goods to and from that Immokalee area is
absolutely vital, Commissioner, to making sure that we have
sustainable economic diversification in that market. So, yes, it is
absolutely vital that we have a healthy network of not only just
roads but air service as well.
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Thank you.
MR. MIHALIC: And, Commissioner, the Immokalee airport
industrial park is the biggest bargain in Southwest Florida. At 10
cents a square foot, you can't find improved industrial land with
utilities anywhere in Southwest Florida for that kind of price. But
the market has to move there. We have to find industries that
can use the amenities and the values that the Immokalee
community has.
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: And willing to be able to travel
across a two-lane road to get there.
MR. MIHALIC: And that's part of it, Commissioners. Those
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are certainly opportunities that have to be addressed.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: And we have north/south network
working up out of Immokalee, Commissioner, that Southwest
Regional Planning Council is focusing on. MR. MIHALIC: Yes, they are.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Because we need to build that
interconnectivity with Lee County and to the roadways to the
north so we can get the freight service. We're even looking to
see if we could get back our railroad right-of-ways out there at
one time to see if freight services in and out of there that we
would have that opportunity, although severely criticized by one
of our favorite publications. When I suggested that they were
only helping the growers in Immokalee and why weren't they
paying for it, I think the whole point was missed that we were
looking at building the airport out there and the industrial
business space in order to accomplish that. So we've got a lot of
things in the works there. But you're right, it is very long term,
and we don't to want give up anything in the process. MR. MIHALIC: That's right.
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Two things that I may share
with you. One, if they develop the roads to Lee County before we
develop in Collier County, the impact to the economy of Collier
County will suffer because the business will naturally gravitate
towards Fort Myers. So we have to be proactive and make sure
we're going to be the ones to be there first. And, No. 2, if we're
ever going to come up with a concurrency plan to make sure that
we're -- have the roads in place that they'll support industry and
growth, Immokalee better be very careful on what it's planning
because I assure you the commission is going to reach a point
where they're going to say we're not going to permit it unless the
road's there. So my suggestion is that the Economic
Development Council get behind the four laning of Immokalee
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Road sooner than later. Did I say that right, Mr. Carter?
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Oh, Mr. Coletta, you said it very
well, which would lead to an ultimate where I hope at the end of
the day we will consider making economic development a part of
our growth management plan, because when you do that, that --
that enhances this whole process in terms of looking funny
everywhere as I understand that we may be able to find federal
and state dollars for a lot of these projects to assist in that four
laning of Immokalee if we get all of the pieces together correctly.
So right now Economic Development Council along -- initially
trying to do this what -- so we really have to keep pushing that.
And if we do, then I think we'll get there sooner rather than later
and be more competitive.
MR. MIHALIC: Go to the next slide. Let's go to the next one.
We've already talked about the other parts of targeted industries
that we're focusing.
Commissioners, we've broken down the job creation and
retention that we've had over the last three years in this
program. You'll see that it ranges from a high of light
manufacturing at 461 jobs, and even in the Immokalee enterprise
zone there have been 77 jobs created and retained. We feel this
is a positive accomplishment and shows the diversity of high-
wage job creation that can be brought into Collier County, and
we think this program is working well. Next slide. Susan.
MS. PAREIGIS: Sure. The 3-year average of all the jobs
created and retained, again, within this public-private partnership
was $34,089. This is close to one-third higher than the three-
year private sector average for Collier, which is $26,440, which is
shown as the dotted line across the chart. Aviation and
aerospace was the highest paying of these targeted industries
with an average wage close to 60 percent higher than Collier
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County's private sector three-year average.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Susan, will you tell us -- I know if
you know them, and if you don't, I apologize for putting you on
the spot -- but the names of some of these companies.
MS. PAREIGIS.' Absolutely. I'd love to share some of them
with you. I think our primary example in this particular industry
is Shaw Companies, which is comprised of two companies, one
company which was here and that Shaw Arrow Development had
30 jobs and then Shaw Arrow Devices which was in Lee County
and had about a hundred jobs at that time. We currently have
about 284 aerospace engineering jobs that are now in Collier
County that but for a year and a half ago we did not have. So
that's one example in this particular industry.
We also have some really neat aviation-related firms
revolving around jet engines. So we have a little, small industry
base or cjuster that we're starting within the local market here.
And we have seen that in discussions with aviation-related firms.
Again, that nexus to the Immokalee airport is very significant in
making sure that we grow this particular cjuster. We think it's
appropriate for the local market.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: And the same thing on
information tech. I would just like to know -- is that mostly Allen
Systems and --
MS. PAREIGIS: Allen Systems. I would share with you also
that we have some other firms that are looking for expansion as
we speak, Smart Disc Corporation which has real -- joint venture
relationships with Toshiba and Fuji and some really interesting
technology of Flash Path on a memory stick, if you will. We also
have, as you described, Allen Systems which underwent a huge
expansion, is also contemplating another expansion within the
local market. And I will share with you that particular example,
we have Hawaii calling this particular CEO on a weekly basis
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trying to get them to move that firm out of the local market. So it
is a very competitive market, and you can't take for granted the
ones that we do have here. We want to make sure that about 80
percent of the effort at the EDC is focused on expansion of
existing high-wage firms, and then we augment that by targeting
specific companies to come and really assist in that
diversification of the base.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Speaking of Allen Systems, we
would love to have them come to the county since the city has
put a restriction in so they can't do another tower there. That's
part of the dilemma that Allen Systems' in. And I would welcome
the opportunity to find a place that we can create a double tower
for them and do everything that they want and keep them in this
county. I think that they are just a cornerstone of what we want
and need here. So I'm looking for any way that we can do that.
MS. PAREIGIS: Absolutely. And I'm glad you bring the Allen
Systems example up. When they built their current expansion
site, an information technology firm really looks at, you know,
being in the State of Florida being prone to maybe weather
hazards such as a hurricane or fire. When Mr. Allen built his
building, he built it to withstand a category 5 hurricane. He also
put the parking garage underneath so if it flooded, the IT
equipment would be above that. So that height restriction is -- is
a central issue for that I team cjuster in that they have to have
that equipment above the first floor, if you will, as a minimum.
MR. REYNOLDS: Another thing to remember is that by and
large the targeted industries that we have are the same targets
that the nation has. Everybody that competes in economic
development is -- is looking at -- at these kinds of businesses.
And in Collier County these tend to be small companies,
entrepreneurial companies, highly mobile companies, companies
that can locate virtually anywhere that they want. So we have to
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reinforce our competitive advantages to, you know, track or
retain and let those companies grow. And that's why a lot of the
-- really the predominant effort here is finding these
entrepreneurial companies and assisting them for growth within
the market as opposed to trying to import Sony or some big hitter
into the market.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: And just because this may be
relevant, something I was thinking about talking about today is I
know that one of the positives we've offered is the fast-track
permitting and that that is working well. What I'm wondering is if
we need to be going to the next step and having some fast-track
zoning or some fast-track comp. Plan amendments or, you know,
something if a company like Allen Systems is looking for
opportunities in the county, fast-track permitting is good as long
as there is some zoned and comp. Planned land appropriate for
the years. But maybe it's time to talk about fast-track zoning for
some of these uses.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: That's great. And because I've
had an opportunity to sit on our strategic planning process, that's
-- that's something that I know Susan and the EDC board wants
to address with us.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Right.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Because we're talking smart
parks. We're talking getting this on what I would call -- we have
what we would call the urban boundary line, but if you have along
that line if you can identify and work with some land masses
where you can build smart parks, what you do is draw your
population of people coming and in working there, and you have
people going from the city or in from the more rural areas and
working in these parks which usually then are supported by
shopping and even -- even if you do the right kind of thing, you
get people living where they can walk to work. So there's --
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they're a vision here, some of the things that they want to share
with us today. It gets right back to what you're saying,
Commissioner Mac'Kie, fast tracking and setting up where the
best places to put land versus the scattered stuff that we have
all over the place, some of which is not appropriate anymore and
finding better ways to do this. I guess we're way ahead of where
you-all want to be, but I promise I'll be quiet.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: No, no, no, don't be quiet. You have
good things to say. One of the things you did say was, everybody
looks at it as what it -- what's in it for me, so this is now what's in
it for me. And I'm talking about our East Naples community. And
I noticed you -- you attract the industries. And these are
wonderful industries. One of the problems we have is we can't
even attract a new restaurant and -- and we have some gorgeous
developments out there who are trying to get restaurants. We all
have to go up to the north end where they're all kind of jammed
in together in order to eat. And we were wondering how do we
even attract a great restaurant so just what's in it for me --
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Build the high-tech park, and they
will come.
MS. PAREIGIS: I will share with you, Commissioner Fiala,
that in looking at different industries, they're driven by different
criteria. And one of the criteria that restaurants, per se, in this
particular category look at is the population, populations to
sustain enough volume for the restaurant. We are really looking
at every other industry but for those population-driven industries.
We're really trying to augment the economic base here through
the types of businesses and the industries that we don't naturally
have in the local market, those -- those industries that are
sustained and come but for the population and the market, we
feel that being the second fastest-growing MSA in the United
States of America since 1980.
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COMMISSIONER FIALA: MSA.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Municipal services.
MS. PAREIGIS: Metropolitan statistical area. We're looking
at tremendous population growth. And, in fact, the types of
industries such as restaurants and service-related industries
come based on just that population. Our predicate at the board,
at the EDC are those are going to come for the population. The
industries that will not come but for the assistance are really the
ones that we need to focus on with such a limited effort that we
have locally.
COMMISSIONER HENNING.' And those businesses such as
restaurants is a seasonal-type job, and that's why we really don't
need to attract. We need to stay away from that, because then
you get the affordable housing issues and all the other elements
that go along with this, and that's another burden on the
taxpayer.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Well, our 44,000 people have to
impact the roads, though, in order to get up to the north end,
excuse me, and -- and eat our dinners and come back.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Excuse me, Commissioner Fiala.
You're doing a great job on Bayshore, and I look forward to
what's -- what's going to happen in that redevelopment area.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yeah, you're right. We'll get them
yet.
COMMISSIONER HENNING.'
yourselves for that.
COMMISSIONER COLETTA:
You should champion
Possibly for the viewers out
there on Channel 54 we can put this simply to them: What we
are looking for is to diversify the economy and that right now
we've been mainly driven by tourism and construction. And when
those two giants take a back seat for a moment or two during
the recession, we suffer greatly. In the last ten years we've been
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very successful as far as the economy goes, and regrettably your
efforts have not been appreciated. But I think the time is coming
when people are going to come to you and say, '~Nhy aren't we
doing more?" so that's what we're going to have to start doing,
make sure we have a base in there that will offset some of the
losses that we may be suffering.
MR. MIHALIC: Well, Commissioners, you know the other half
of this is how much capital investment did we have from these
industries that we personally assisted. I guess I should say that
there's been a much larger amount of high-wage ]ob creation
than the ones that have been personally assisted by EDC. This
creates a synergism. This positive business attitudes brings
other people here who may not use the services of EDC or our
fast tracking but still locate here, and that's really not reflected
in these numbers. And you can see that over 3 years you have
almost $50 million of capital investment by the particular
businesses that were assisted by EDC in the partnership.
I should also mention that we're using very conservative
statistics here. Generally, if you look at the economic
development models that are out there, you take all the wages
that a business is going to pay over the next three or five years,
and you use that. You also take all the capital investment, and
usually you multiply it by a factor, like 3 1/2 times, to show how
much synergism and how much multiplier effect that has in the
community. We haven't done that here. We've taken only one
year of wages and the direct capital investment. MS. PAREIGIS: Period.
MR. MIHALIC: So in normal economic models, you would
see numbers that are five or six times this amount traditionally.
So we've taken the most conservative way we can look at these -
- at these numbers and try to show you what it has been in this
market over the last three years.
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COMMISSIONER COLETTA'. When the money comes into the
community, it usually remains here and spent five to seven times
before it--
MR. MIHALIC: Well, the multiplier effect is normally 3 1/2
times. But normally you don't take only one year of wages for a
business; you take three to five years of wages, because you
know that business is going to be operating over that time
period. That's normally the way you do it. This is a very
conservative republican way to do things. Next slide.
MS. PAREIGIS: We have advertised in many different forms
and fashions over the years. And we thought we would just show
you a brief synopsis of a couple of the campaigns. The call for
advertising campaign with Enterprise Florida includes an image
building campaign and a site selection campaign. The image
campaign targets top-level executives and high-tech
entrepreneurs in Chief Executive magazine and Fast Company
magazine. The image campaign presents stories of successful
Florida-based companies. There are a series of full-page ads
with testimonials.
Again, in our research with our chief executives in the local
market, they have identified that testimonials are probably the
most effective source of referral for the local market.
The site selection campaign, that runs in Business
Facilities, Expansion Management, and Site Selection magazine.
And the site selection market is a key target for economic
development to influence decisions regarding business relo --
relocation and investment.
An estimated half of the readers of these publications are
CEO chairmens, presidents, owners, and partners. The objective
of the campaign is to build exposure and awareness of Collier
County as a business destination and to generate leads from
qualified site selection decision makers. The program consists
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of two double-page ads, each running three times in each
publication and will include business testimonials that market
Collier County as an entrepreneurial community with a fast-
growing IT sector and a highly desirable quality of life.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Susan, are these magazines --
obviously you don't buy those at Publix. I would love to see
them. I'd love to see the publications themselves sometime if
there's something you have available just to see how ours plays
next to the rest of the market.
MS. PAREIGIS: We had actually anticipated having the
actual magazines for you here with the ads in them. Enterprise
Florida was a little late in their rollout. They will be in this
summer, and as we get those, we will actually send you a copy of
the actual magazine so you can see the placement and the
editorial we have extracted along with the advertisements.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE.' Excellent. Thank you.
MS. PAREIGIS: Next. This year the EDC has expanded its
marketing efforts. And I will share with you that when we formed
the public-private partnership in '97 we thought it was really
important to get out and know the existing industry. So we spent
a lot of time working on existing industries and their expansions.
We're really now, we feel for the first time, ready to launch this
recruitment side of economic development. And this year we've
expanded the marketing to include targeted industry trade
shows, direct mail campaigns to IT firms, as well as to our V --
visiting and seasonal CEOs. We think that we have a real
resource and asset in Collier County that a lot of communities
don't, and that is a lot of the CEOs come to our local market
here. So we plan to take full advantage of that, and we're
working with some of our resort hotels to get that qualified
message to qualified individuals saying, "Would you like a site
tour while you're here, would you like to talk to a county
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commissioner while you're here, would you like to talk to a peer
in your industry that is actually operating in Naples now.".
And this is just a list of some of the things that we're
actively doing. We do site selection consultant visits in Chicago,
New York, and Atlanta. And we also have the website that we'll
briefly show you at the ends of this, just a brief presentation in
case you haven't gone on line and seen it yet. But we market it
through ENaplesFIorida.com, SiliconbeachFIorida.com, as well as
SWFIoridabusiness.com.
MR. MIHALIC: Robin.
MR. DOYLE: Commissioners, I have the pleasure of talking
to you about the future shared vision, the strategic plan for
economic development. As John Passidomo told you, first
written in '94, it took a very major step forward this year when
we updated our strategic plan, a plan that continues the shared
vision of high-paying jobs in the economy. The importance of this
vision to the members of the EDC board, I think, is demonstrated
by the fact that -- the number of the board members are here
today because they feel that what you are doing and what we are
doing as the public-private partnership is very important. In fact,
since we started, Michael Saadeh from the Vineyards has come
in, is also here with the other board members that you were
introduced to earlier.
The updated strategic plan, which I would describe really as
a more mature plan from what we started with, was developed by
the -- by an EDC committee with assistance from Commissioner
Carter who sat on the strategic planning committee, members of
the EDC board. From the business committee, John Passidomo
and Jeff Fridkin were involved. Representatives of all of the
universities and colleges in this area sat on this strategic
planning committee looking toward the future to what we're
calling here this shared vision of a competitive diversified
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economy in the county that looks for what the objectives are that
are necessary for us to be successful.
Looking next to some of our strategic partners, because we
realize that our partnerships are important, we have both local
and regional economic development groups and other groups
that we think are a critical part of our strategy. This is a partial
list of our strategic partners that you're seeing here. We
continue to work with groups such as Enterprise Florida, Florida
Gulf Coast University, and the county's own airport authority.
Today cities around the world are competing for the same
talent and for the same investment. And creating high-value jobs
and diversified economic activity is going to require strategy and
vision.
Now, despite what you may have heard about the rise and
fall of the dot coms and the new economy, today's economy, I
think probably the word "new economy" is overused, but today's
economy is really a knowledge- and idea-based economy. The -- I
think it's an economy where the keys to high-paying job creation
are the extent to which ideas, innovation, and technology are all
embedded in all sectors of the economy. So the EDC wants to be
an effective force in improving quality of life through this type of -
- of economic development.
The strategic plan has identified three important capacity
issues that divine -- define economic development success in
this new economy: Investments in physical infrastructure that
you see here, in work force training, and in access to capital
accrues to the broader community and remain in the community.
Now, in looking at these capacities, we are forcing a more
strategic view of economic development, one that takes into
account investments in physical infrastructure, investments in
education and capital investments which will provide the
building blocks for a good business climate.
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If we look next to a slide on the work force infrastructure, I
think we have to realize that in the -- in today's economy a
competitive advantage is based primarily on the education and
the skills of the work force. Employee training and work-force
housing are major challenges facing Collier County. But many of
our talented young people leave our area after they receive an
education looking for high-paying jobs. As a parent of children
who grew up here, I want to see them come back, and I want to
see us develop the type of economy that gives our children and
our grandchildren an opportunity to locate here to have the
quality of life that we have enjoyed and yet have the job
opportunities that have not been enjoyed here.
Back in the summer of '99 we had the Wadley Donavon
group do an extensive labor market study, and we learned a lot
of things through that study. While we have a fast-growing labor
market -- and I think you saw a slide, and there's information in
the -- in the business essentials booklet that you have there
about the growth of our labor force, I think sixth fastest growing
in the State of Florida. But the study done by Wadley Donavon
determined that the county's primary challenge is to provide an
aggressive training opportunity to the residents to meet the
needs of employers in the new economy.
Now, I realize that some of the things that we talk about in
terms of these capacities are beyond the scope of what the
county commission has control over. You don't control
education in our community. But I think it's important for us to
paint the whole picture because you are trying to coordinate the
economic development.
We looked to another area, to -- to capital infrastructure.
Now, there's been a heightened interest in venture capital
throughout Florida in the last few years. But Florida still ranks
tenth among all states in venture capital dollars and -- in venture
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capital dollars invested. And we've only captured about 2
percent of the total venture capital nationwide.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Robin, does that include real
estate development, venture capital -- ·
MR. DOYLE: No, venture capital would not. If you look,
commercial lending has been primarily real estate based.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Okay.
MR. DOYLE: In some areas, commercial lending includes
industrial and business lending. Here commercial lending has
been primarily real estate based.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: What I was thinking about was is
all of the limited partnerships that exist that, you know, purchase
land that eventually become a real estate development project.
Is that factored in? I was just surprised to hear that venture
capital isn't a higher number. I understand that it wouldn't be
for, you know, manufacturing and the kind of businesses that
we're talking about, but there's a lot of--
MR. DOYLE: Again, I think that certainly there are people --
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Uh-huh.
MR. DOYLE: -- who take risks with development, in real
estate development. But, again, real estate development is a
population-driven --
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: There you go.
MR. DOYLE: -- exercise. And the type of venture capital
we're looking for in the capital infrastructure needs and the
capacity needs is the type of venture capital that would assist a
high-wage industry in locating and developing their business
here. And--
COMMISSIONER CARTER: I think, Robin, though, a part of,
going to Commissioner Mac'Kie's question, is that a person or a
family or a company owning a tract of land might be a player in
this because they may own what's under the structure, and as
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much as Barron Collier Company did in Phoenix, they owned the -
- I want to say they owned the dirt, but somebody else built the
buildings. So they become partners in this process. But they're
not going to provide the capital formation for what goes above
the ground. Their role is to own what's underneath that
structure. And we have some opportunities, I think, here in
Collier to work with some people I think that are very interested
in doing that.
MR. DOYLE: I think that's true. And we also have an
opportunity -- somebody mentioned earlier that we have a great
deal of unearned income here, wage -- nonwage income. We
have a lot of people here who have investments that they take
their investment dollars elsewhere. So one possibility is the
creation of an angel network, a group of investors who wouldn't
be like your traditional venture capital investor who would come
in and take an active role in the development of a business but
who would provide a source of funds, particularly for small
entrepreneurial businesses. And so this is one of the areas that
we hope to be able to develop in meeting this capital
infrastructure capacity needs.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: That's -- that's an interesting
subject that you bring up. When we were taking the census, one
of the problems they said we had in Florida was, as far as getting
the census, many of these people claim their home state -- even
though they might live here six or seven months a year, they feel
that their home state was where they wanted to issue as their
domicile. So we don't get their tax dollars. Their home state
does, although we provide the roads and infrastructure for those
same people. Does that become a problem?
MR. MIHALIC.' You're absolutely right, Commissioner. When
people have multiple homes in the census, they should have
filled out their census where they were on April 1st; that was in
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Collier County last year.
in Pennsylvania or wherever.
traditional.
me.
But some did chose -- choose to deal --
They felt their roots were more
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Even though they were here.
MR. MIHALIC: Absolutely.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I had many of them mention that to
MR. MIHALIC: Yes.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I was truly surprised, Because you
would think that being that they're traveling on our roads and
stay here so many months of the year, but then again --
MR. MIHALIC: Only 54 percent of the people in Collier
County filled out their census forms at all. Very Iow, below the
state and federal average.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Thanks, Greg. Excuse me. I'm
sorry.
MR. DOYLE: Well, and -- and one of the things that we're
looking at is to create the attitude that this is home. This is
where we want to invest. This is where we want to not just be,
not just go to the beach, but this is where we want to do our
business also. And so that -- so that the people who are saying --
who are sending their dollars back to Indiana or Michigan for
investment purposes are willing to see opportunities here that
are attractive to them from a financial perspective and attractive
to them because this is home.
One of the things that we've done is small business
assistance with the micro loan program, a loan program for
prequalified businesses that the EDC administers with loans up
to $7500. And, of course, industrial revenue bonds are available
for manufacturing or industrial plants, for research and
development parks, with a minimum project size of a million
dollars. The EDC also administers that program.
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That brings us to a discussion of what the board can do and
realizing, as I said, not everything that we are involved in in the
EDC is an issue for this board. There are some things that are
challenges that we believe that the board can directly help us
with. And I'd like to talk about those.
First is the preparation of a growth management plan
amendment to create smart parks in -- in Collier County. And I
think that as we talk -- and we're going to talk about
telecommunications infrastructure also, but this type of
infrastructure is essential, not just to high-tech businesses but to
all high-value industries because those industries increasingly
use technology.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Robin, are you going to tell us at
some point what are the elements of a smart park? It's not a
phrase I'm familiar with.
MR. DOYLE: I think Susan --
MS. PAREIGIS: If I could --
MR. DOYLE: Certainly.
MS. PAREIGIS: -- at this venture, it's basically a commerce
park that has a redundant strong fiberoptic band width -- band
width capacity. It also has flexible uses such that you have
maybe daycare centers around the perimeter so that it
supplements what's in the park there. It becomes a destination
in and of itself.
I will share with you that in my recent research, Michigan as
a state is looking at what you had suggested, actually smart
zones.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Uh-huh.
MS. PAREIGIS: So that you have complimentary-type
businesses that facilitate those high-wage jobs being in the
market there. So it really is a campus-style commerce park with
a very strong redundant telecommunications backbone.
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COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: And one of the frustrations that I
have is the inability of the county commission to have much of an
effect on the hotel and communications industry and the
infrastructure that's available for it. You know, I don't know how
we get the PFC to do more. But, you know, I wish that the
county had some authority there because we could try to provide
some leadership. At least if there's some lobbying efforts going
on with the PFC and this board could help with that, I think that's
one of our weakest links, is the pitiful -- forgive me, Sprint -- but
the pitiful telecommunications and that infrastructure.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: And I think the EDC can help
hold the board members individually in to make those happen.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Yeah. Let us help where we can.
MR. DOYLE: Well, these are the two things: the -- the
beginning of this list, preparing the growth management plan
amendment and preparing the Land Development Code
amendment to provide zoning for the smart parks.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: And I totally support that. How
we need to get there is by amendment of the growth
management plan, the LDC to help assist these smart parks to be
created here in Collier County.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: I -- I agree. I'm curious what the
buy-right corresponding percentage of C-5 zoning, what that
means.
MR. REYNOLDS: Let me speak to that very briefly, is that if
you think about it, what smart parks are are a prospective use.
In other words, we have to -- we don't have a -- a tremendous
number of existing users for sort of the large tracts with a smart
park. What we do have is a very, very strong demand for small,
start-up types of sites that you might find in some of the more
traditional parks that we have right now, the Trade Center Ways.
So in order to create enough economic basis to get the
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investment into a smart park, there has to be an immediate
marketability to some portion of the park. So what we're talking
about is blending both sites that can accommodate existing
businesses that are ready to go with the prospective uses and
doing that in a high-quality park. And that's the idea behind the
buy-right inclusion of a C-5 component within a smart park.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: So the idea would be within the --
in the growth management plan amendment you would include --
MR. DUNNUCK: Land development?
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: I don't understand.
MR. REYNOLDS: The growth management plan amendment
would establish the basic framework and the policy for the smart
parks. It would really be the Land Development Code that would
establish the specific parameters of-- of what types of zoning,
what types of uses, what kinds of standards that would be
required.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: And wouldn't we do that just by
rezoning land to C-5 ?
MR. REYNOLDS: That's one way to do it. But what we're
talking about here is trying to create a blending so that -- so that
the C-5 compliments basically the prospective market that is
really being targeted. I'll use an example that I thought about
when Dawn was talking about East Naples.
You might recall about, I'm going to say, 15 years ago there
was zoning put in place for the Lely R and D park. Okay. Now,
there was a prospect -- I mean, that was -- that was that year's
version of -- of a smart park. It sat there for a number of years
with no -- no uses, you know, so there was never an ability to
even get the basic infrastructure in place because there was
nobody there to use it. So it went away. But -- but it was -- you
know, it was available. So, you know, in order to get the up-
front infrastructure invested so that you can have something
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ready to go for the targeted industries, you've got to cater to that
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: What you're saying is in the Lely
example, we put a C-5 or some designation on a map but never
put in the road, the water, the sewer. MR. MIHALIC: C-5 designation.
MR. REYNOLDS: And the zoning that was put in place was
strictly limited only to these prospective targets, so there was no
opportunity to cater to any existing business in Collier County.
You essentially had to go out and recruit the business users to
that park and, guess what, you can't recruit them and show them
appeal and show them here's your future site.
MR. MIHALIC: There's a cross issue, too, Commissioner.
Industrial land is not always the highest and best use.
Residential golf course property may be. So you need to provide
some financial incentives to that developer by the C-5, higher,
more profitable zoning to allow him to be cost competitive and
still develop that smart park. You know, our land is almost twice
as expensive as Lee County's for the same type of land. We have
to be competitive.
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: If I may, on the smart park
theory, are we talking probably the 951 corridor, probably
Immokalee, maybe Immokalee Road and some locations, or are
we talking about retrofitting, redevelopment of some other areas
in Collier County like Pine Ridge or Airport Road? Is this what
we're thinking about?
MR. DOYLE: We've actually made a conscious effort to try to
stay out of site-specific recommendations. What we're trying to
do is say, this type of development is important the growth of
high-wage jobs. The economy is going to drive, I think, where
they are located. And all of us can -- can point to areas that we
say this is probably where this would be developed. But I -- I
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think that what we're looking for here, at least initially, is to say,
we recognize that there's a need here. The need is for the smart
parks. And we also recognize that we have to make them work.
We can't just say, oh, let's have a smart park, and that's the
reason for the C-5 corresponding percentage of the zoning. We're
trying to create something that will really be successful.
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: I understand what you're saying.
I'm having a hard time visualizing how you're going to have all of
these amenities in the more developing area. In other words, the
area hasn't been developed yet. How are you going to be able to
do the whole picture? And if you try and transplant this into the
area that's already been developed, you're going to have one
heck of a fight.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: If I might, let me, Commissioner --
may I just share an example of one that might be an opportunity?
You mentioned Pine Ridge and Airport. On the northwest corner,
I believe, if we look at all of that -- you know where Costco is;
you know where Lowes' is. There's a huge tract of land there in
that there's been some conversation between the EDC and that
property owner. There's a large-enough area where you could do
a smart park on the remaining parcel. And if you look at
everything else that is developed in there, it really augments and
serves that and is a nice attractive point for people to
communicate -- to commute into that -- that area.
So I think part of-- we don't want to be site specific, but if
we can find a model that incorporates what we're asking to do
here, taking a look at your Dover, Kohl study and some of the
suggestions and ideas that they had, bring that together -- we
need a framework, if I'm understanding of zoning and policy and
direction that says when identified, the Board of County
Commissioners, along with the recommendations from the
Economic Development Council, can identify and look at these to
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make sure it fits all the criteria of everything we're trying to do in
growth management. We don't want to violate anything here.
And we don't want to send false messages to the public on this.
But we're trying to find this area which it -- in the end can be very
attractive, create the high wage jobs, be a feeder system for
people out of existing development areas to drive into so that
you're not promoting an urban sprawl kind of situation.
Now, you could take and lift that same model and put it in
other places in the county, whether it's Immokalee or whether
it's some other area that's in the -- I'm going to say close to the
fringe, if we identify and we can meet all the criteria but if you
get site specific then just invokes a lot of public -- well, I'm going
to say a lot of public criticism that you're going to take an area
and you're going to do something, and you're going to start
expanding services and you're going to start doing this, this, and
this, and we lose sight of the vision. So I think that's why we're
trying to establish this framework.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: I think I'm finally getting it here
that what we're talking about is a growth plan amendment that
would create the concept of smart parks. Then we have an LDC
amendment that basically would create an SP zoning district or
category of smart park zoning. And smart park zoning would
include a percentage of entitlement to C-5 intensity of uses --
MR. DOYLE: And once we've done that, we believe that an
entrepreneur will come to you and say, zone my land --
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: SP.
MR. DOYLE: -- SP and go out and work with the assistance of
the EDC to bring in the type of industry that we're trying to
attract.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: And --
MR. DOYLE: Now, one of the problems -- and Susan is the
best one to tell you about this. One of the problems is we're
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talking to an industry, and they say, "Well, where can I have
140,000 square feet?" and it's very hard to find. And what -- so
what we're trying to do is create this infrastructure that she can
say, "Oh, well, right here.".
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: And it needs -- that's where this
fast-track zoning needs to be a part of the smart park zoning
category.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Our county manager needs to get
a word in here.
MR. OLLIFF: In essence, the way I see it, it's almost like a --
provides the flexibility of a PUD in that it has some mixed uses
within it, and the developer has the opportunity to be able to let
the market dictate to a certain extent what types of uses are
going to be in there, but it becomes a standard zoning category.
So rather than going through, you know, a PUD process, it is an
allowed use. But one of the things you continue to hear and a lot
of these issues that come up is this issue of buy-right zoning and
uses. And it's something that we've hesitated a lot at this board
level and wanted to hold on to every decision in terms of what
the actual uses are going to be. And if you're going to provide
some entrepreneurial opportunity out there, you've got to provide
some of this buy use idea as part of this zoning category. I think
it makes a lot of sense.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: I think unless -- unless we do it
on a fast-track basis then Susan's still going to be bringing
people into town and all we're going to have changed is we've
got this category of zoning, we'll take this piece of dirt. It's got
to be something that goes to the top of the pile.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: I think we can accomplish that
through one of the documents of saying the purpose and intent of
fast tracking would be to create high-wage ]obs. And I think
what I would like to do here is give some direction to our staff to
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amend the growth management plan to create smart parks in
Collier County and also amend the LDC to make it that affordable
element with the -- the zoning of C-5, which is very valuable here
in Collier County.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: As far as I'm concerned --
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Well, I see the nods around the
room. I said, as I jumped way ahead about 30 -- about an hour
ago, there's where I wanted to be. Thank you for your support on
that, Commissioner Henning, because I really believe that's
where we can take this. I wished I could beam us up to Denver
right now and put you down in a smart park that exists with your
structures, high tech, surrounded by-- residential communities
surrounded by services to that of shopping and restaurants and
everything. And it's awesome because people do not have to
travel very far because they could if they wanted to literally walk
to work or walk over to a shopping plaza or bicycle, and they
would never have to get out on the road system. I won't say that
they don't do that there, because maybe the people that live in
the residential and they're working outside of Denver -- .
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Well, I'll check my calendar and
see when --
COMMISSIONER CARTER: All we have to do is get the
technology, and we'll beam ourselves out there.
COMMISSIONER HENNING.' I -- I think we need to thank
Commissioner Carter for working with the EDC over the years to
try to bring economic development into Collier County.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Well, I'm glad he's our lead agent
there, too, aren't you? And -- and maybe we can have Susan
come in sometime and just sit down with us and give us an idea
of what smart parks are and -- and maybe -- so that we come --
become more familiar with them as we work towards fast
tracking.
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COMMISSIONER COLETTA.' Let's make sure this isn't just
another good idea that goes by the wayside. I'd like to hear
something in the way of a time frame when we could expect
something to come back to us.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Sounds good to me.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: I will turn that over to the county
manager to let us know the time line.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Look at Tom.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: The time line is to look at the
actions that are recommend -- recommended this morning giving
staff direction to look at this and how that would go through the
process and get into the -- to become part of our growth
management plan.
MR. OLLIFF: As -- it's a good segue, an opportunity for me to
try and summarize not only some of the recommendations that I
think the group here has made this morning, but there are some
others. And I think one of the things that -- that you continue to
hear is that they're looking for a partnership out of -- out of
county government. And it is more than just a financial
partnership; it is much more. In fact, I think county government
can provide a lot more in terms of helping economic development
in this community that are nonfinan¢ial than, frankly, that are
financial.
One of the things that I think is going to be a driving
commitment for us is to understand that infrastructure and a
commitment for us to maintain schedules that are aggressive in
providing adequate infrastructure are important for economic
development.
You heard this morning Immokalee Road, north/south
corridors and all of those things that are government's
responsibility. But it was encouraging also to hear that there are
infrastructure issues that are out there that are not strictly
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county government's. But having a county commission that is
attentive enough to understand that those other infrastructure
issues are important for economic development and wants to
know where are we as a community with those issues and is
willing to get involved with the economic development
community if and when we need to go get into somebody else's
foray for telecommunications0type issues.
Zoning continues to be one of the ma]or issues that we hear
about. But, frankly, we haven't done a lot in terms of
aggressively looking at where are those other opportunities out
there and providing some incentives to provide industrial and/or
higher use commercial zoning opportunities for economic
development. And I think we will bring back as a result of this,
like we will with each of these workshops, what we're doing is a
summary implementation plan, if you will, with some target dates
and some assigned responsibilities. And, in fact, you should get
all of the previous workshop summaries within the next week
that will show you all of those schedules. And then this one will
follow within about a couple of weeks.
Lastly, I think there's a -- a quality of life issue. And I think if
you ask these people what has been our competitive advantage
in a number of cases, it is the quality of life that we have been
able to offer and -- and CEOs who have the flexibility to move
their businesses anywhere in the country want to live someplace
where it's nice to live. So I think we need to recognize that, and
we need to recognize that we've got an obligation upon the part
of county government to maintain that quality that brings them
here.
And, lastly, I'll tell you that philosophically I think to have a
board that is engaged in economic development -- Greg started
out by saying that the private side needs to know that the public
side supports them.
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MR. MIHALIC.' Yeah.
MR. OLLIFF: And I think the only support that I can
remember historically here is the annual opportunity when the
EDC comes and asks for financial support for the public-private
partnership. And I think through those committees that this
board agreed to create, which we are -- are starting to term
horizon committees at our staff level, we are supposed to be
bringing back to you resolutions at your second meeting in May
to create those committees. But there are standing committees
in some cases that will serve. And I think the Economic
Development Council already has a standing committee that
involves most of the local educational institutions, businesses in
the area. And, Commissioner Carter, I -- it's going to be our
recommendation as a staff that rather than creating a separate
committee that we simply have the commission Chairman Carter
serve as the county's liaison to that committee and then provide
a reporting mechanism back to the county on a regular basis so
that we are engaged in a regular way that -- .
COMMISSIONER CARTER: I think you just reversed
delegation. He's very good.
MR. OLLIFF: You were supposed to let me run right through
that one. You weren't supposed to catch that.
But I -- I think, unless I -- I hear differently, I think I -- I sense
from this board that there is a -- a higher level of interest in terms
of economic development than this board's involvement in it.
And as part of our implementation plan back to you from this
workshop, we would like to bring you a number of those things
that I just covered that they were sort of above and beyond not
only what you heard here as requests from the EDC.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah, we can also take it a step
further, if you'd like. I, in our community of Golden Gate, looking
at Exit 15, Shaw Arrow, and that area, the county owns 300
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acres in that area. We can even take that a step further to
create a smart park in that area. We got a great transportation
element there. That is where the work force is. The
infrastructure is available in the area. I'll just throw that out
there.
MR. PASSIDOMO: Mr. Chair, I think Commissioner Henning
may have put a finger on a very important part of the
infrastructure that Robin alluded to that we may want to spend
some time talking about. We talked about the physical
infrastructure, the contexts, the recommendations. We talked
about the capital infrastructure which is more generated out of
the private sector. But we haven't spent a lot of talking about
human infrastructure.
And an historical perspective gives you a couple of benefits.
You realize that on -- you may have seen some things before, and
you may realize that you're no longer accountable for speaking
on behalf of an organization. But when the council of economic
advisors made their recommendations, they recognized that two
principle deficiencies we had in the marketplace were we didn't
call smart park, but we realized a physical infrastructure and
work-force development, training, affordable housing. There are
clearly things that government can and, with all respect, should
do in both of those areas: Local incentives for investing in local
people to provide work-force development skills focused on
target industries. We understand who the targeted industries
are. We understand we have a quality of life here that will allow
us to attract these industries that can go anywhere in the world.
If we have a physical infrastructure -- we know we have capital
in this community, if it's directed properly. But without work-
force development, without work-force housing, we're not going
to make a meaningful step positively in that direction.
And in terms of incentive, the professionals I believe will tell
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us that there's no better investment than investing in local
people because they stay here. They don't take their company
and leave with investment dollars.
So what I believe you may want to consider are human
infrastructure, work-force housing, work-force development,
incentives for training for those targeted industries to get them
here, to keep them here, and to retain the ones that you want to
keep here. But looking at only physical infrastructure without
looking at the human element I think may miss the advantage
that Commissioner Fiala was talking about: What does this mean
for me? What it means for you is that you're creating
opportunities for upward mobility for your constituents. You're
creating lobs for your constituents. You're creating futures for
them and for their families, and that's a very meaningful part of
public responsibility that only the Board of County
Commissioners can exercise.
MR. DOYLE: John -- John is correct about the human
infrastructure. And you notice on the BCC action list that we
have here, there's nothing mentioned about work-force housing.
This is not an oversight on our part. It's just that it is such a
large issue that it, I think, in talking to Greg, deserves its own
workshop.
MR. MIHALIC: In two weeks.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: We're going to do that.
MR. DOYLE: And you need to address that. And -- and so I
want to make sure that you understand we're not overlooking
that. We think that is a very, very big issue and a very important
part of this capacity, this work-force capacity that we're talking
about.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: The other really important issue -
- and I -- if we haven't diverted you, you'd be on it by now -- is the
mapping of this telecommunications infrastructure. How can the
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county participate in that?
MR. DOYLE: If the -- nice segue. Thank you.
If the commission would instruct staff to prepare this
communication -- telecommunications infrastructure analysis for
inclusion as a GIS overlay, we would have a very important tool
for our use in economic development.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Is -- don't you think -- I mean,
again, just going on gut feeling that what we're going to find,
there's some very thin little lines drawn on a map with not much
infrastructure, I mean-- .
MS. PAREIGIS: It all comes down to the last mile of copper
is really what the issue becomes very quickly.
MR. DOYLE: It -- it is. And -- and to emphasize the
importance of this to high-wage jobs and the diversified
economy, we just have to look at yesterday afternoon. The EDC
is not a high-tech business, although we use technology. Robbin
Koch had documents she wanted to give to me, and she wanted
to e-mail it to me, but her DSL line was down all day.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: That's how it is.
MR. DOYLE: And she was not -- and so I got in the car and
drove to the EDC office and got my document. Now, we got it
and everything was done, but to be -- for a business to have to do
that is not productive.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: I gave up on DSL even at home.
It's so -- but here -- this is my second -- the most important part I
think of this is once we map it, then who -- who has the authority
to require that the infrastructure be improved? Is that only PSC,
and is -- do they -- can they require it, or is that a private
industry? I don't -- I don't know where we go after we get the
map, and I'm curious to know that.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: I think there's a couple of pieces.
We need the map. It's interesting. Yesterday Tom Olliff and I
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spent a couple of hours up at Gulf Coast University and had lunch
with Dr. Merwin. We were talking about this whole business of
getting what we need here as far as the copper. And we are
pretty much reaching the conclusion that we know that Sprint
United is -- we know that this area is a cash cow. And if you sit
in the corporate headquarters in Phoenix or wherever they're
located and you see a great bottom line, unless that community
goes out there and sets down with the CEO or -- and says, look,
you know, we're put -- you're getting a lot of money here, but
we're not getting what we need here, how can you help us, how
does he know? He doesn't know. So I think that we are going to
have to get outside of Collier County, go to those sources, set
down as teams and say, look, here's our problem. How can you
help us because it is going to even be a better bottom line for
you if you get it done sooner. But if no one goes there and does
it, they're going to keep taking the money, why not?
MR. REYNOLDS: And you have to bring them a specific
solution that you're looking for. That's where what we're saying
is, you know, I would challenge anybody today to say what do we
have in Collier County, and where is the primary need.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Okay.
MR. REYNOLDS: That's what we have to do first. Then you
can go and say this is what we want and you can be an effective
advocate.
MR. OLLIFF: I think that's what we're looking for, the EDC's
committee with Commissioner Carter to serve on to come back.
And once we have where are we, where do we need to be, and
what needs to be done to get us there, then we have a plan on --
on -- and going out to wherever it is to talk to somebody with
something specific in hand.
MR. REYNOLDS: Yeah.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: And assuming then that --
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because I can count the nods -- you're not going to have any
problem getting the word to give that instruction to staff, how
long does that process take, the mapping?
MS. PAREIGIS: Six months? Six to eight.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Okay. So it's not forever.
MR. REYNOLDS: No.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: We can get it done in six to eight
months.
MR. MIHALIC: It may require some specialized talent --
MS. PAREIGIS: Right.
MR. MIHALIC: -- to bring in someone who specialized in this
to augment what we have.
MR. REYNOLDS: You know, I don't know if any of you saw
the recent NewsWeek article, but it's devoted to new technology
and basically these businesses. And they went through
communities that are being affected. There were two measures
that were identified: venture capital and telecommunications
infrastructure investment. That was how they were measuring
the success of the folks that are doing it. So, you know, rest
assured, that is what these businesses are looking for.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: And we can work on, A, God
knows the money is here, and I love that angel network idea.
And -- and then once we know what we don't have on the second
piece, then we know where to go to ask for it and -- and get me
on an airplane because it's very frustrating.
MR. DOYLE: Well, and that -- that really is -- you know, we
talked about smart parks. We talked about this
telecommunications infrastructure analysis. And that really
takes us to the last thing that I hear all of you say we don't have
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Well, before we do that, I have a
request from our recorder that she would like to rest her magic
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fingers for five minutes. MR. DOYLE: Okay.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: So could we take a five-minute
break?
MR. DOYLE: Well, actually, what we're saying there is we
are simply looking for the support that you are talking about to
go with us to see that executive to get that done. But let's let
Barb rest and Alan --
COMMISSIONER CARTER: We can do that, and then we have
public comment.
MR. MIHALIC: No one's signed up. Has anyone from the
public come?
COMMISSIONER CARTER: We have one.
MR. MIHALIC: We just have one?
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Okay. Is there any others out
there going to speak? There's two.
Let's give our recorder just a quick break. We'll come back
and take public comment and wrap it up.
(A short break was held.)
MR. MIHALIC: Go ahead. I'll have you sit at a chair up here.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Okay. We've got everybody back.
Is Dr. Fishkind still here?
MR. REYNOLDS: Yeah, I think he is.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Okay.
MS. PAREIGIS: We can do that at lunch.
MR. REYNOLDS: We got just two closers.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Okay. Fine. Then we will take
your two closers -- well, let me do this: I have not had an
opportunity to get public input. That might be appropriate to do
at this time. So if we could have public input speakers, we'll let
you then do a wrap. And at least I would like to introduce, for
those who don't know him Dr. Henry Fishkind, who is here at this
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workshop and will be addressing the Economic Development
Council at 12:30 at the Naples Beach -- Beach and Hotel; right?
MS. PAREIGIS: Correct.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: All right. Thank you.
MR. MIHALIC: Mr. Krasowski, would you like to --
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Come sit by me, Bob.
MR. KRASOWSKI: Okay. Just getting so comfortable here.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: That's the idea.
MR. KRASOWSKI: Well, hello. My name's Bob Krasowski for
the record, and I would like to as a private citizen compliment
and congratulate the county commissioners and the staff and the
Economic Development Council for having this workshop. I gain
a lot from these things. I know others do, others here in the
audience. And people get to watch these things broadcast on
Channel 54. I've -- I've assembled a montage of ideas and -- and
comments in regards to what you presented. So if I kind of jump
all over the place, as -- in regards to your presentation, forgive
me. But this seems to work for me.
Let's see.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Bob's like I am; I can't read my
own writing.
MR. KRASOWSKI: Yeah. You should see this thing. But I -- I
think that Miss -- Mrs. Fiala made a good point when she wanted
to include local people in the knowledge base. And I'll take that
as a segue to my comments, that also local people should be
included, and businesses should be included in this -- this
expansion that the EDC is monitoring and -- and encouraging, to a
certain degree. I feel that this community is growing at such a
fast rate and those of who -- of us who live here like to enjoy and
maintain the quality of living that we've come to know and
experience. And it's my perception that maybe things are
moving ahead a little too fast. But then I would -- I'd like to
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continue to monitor the developments and -- and what's
happening.
I noticed you made -- had the position that the environment
and natural resources would be a major concern while you invite
in industry to come here. And I hope that as one element of that
you actually recognize what by-products or waste products are --
are the result of certain industries so that you don't negatively
impact what is fairly clean waste stream, in particular, our -- our
sewage, but when that's processed it has a certain class
identification as to its components, as well as our solid waste.
One of the main elements of the community that I've been
interested in lately is the solid waste issue which -- which the
county is addressing now. And I would love to -- if there is
anyone in the EDC that's addressing that issue, I'd love to be able
to talk with them. As -- a zero waste effort, which is a group that
I've been aligning myself with as far as holding similar positions,
nationally and internationally, identifies in their plan something
like a smart park that -- that is built up around a resource
recovery facility. I'm not talking burning waste. I'm talking
recovering the resources and turning them back into the -- into
the manufacturing stream and supporting local -- but we have an
infrastructure. It's amazing in my research how I've identified in
Florida and in Collier County all the elements and components of
the business infrastructure to handle the -- these elements and
we're just wasting them. I mean, we've done a dismal job up to
now in handling these things. I'd love to see the EDC at your
level of insight and investigation to join in the public interest
effort to identify systems and to accommodate a meaningful
resource recovery in this department. And then as Commissioner
Henning has said, we have land around the landfill now adjacent
to the landfill that could be used to change the landfill into a re --
resource recovery location.
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COMMISSIONER HENNING: That isn't what I said.
MR. KRASOWSKI: Oh, you said there was land --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: I said the partnership with
economic development for a smart park.
MR. KRASOWSKI: Okay. And -- and you used the example --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: I appreciate --
MR. KRASOWSKI: -- of Golden Gate as having workers and --
excuse me, Golden Gate as having workers and not have -- I took
it as an opportunity to integrate it into what I see as another
opportunity to redirect the waste stream at that location.
In -- in this book I'm reading here, Natural Capital -- this was
recommended to me by a gentleman -- there's a very interesting
thing, and I'll end with this. I don't want to take too much time.
But it -- it mentions this guy named Einstein who I think is pretty
good as far as, like, you know, a person with insights and
problem solving. But he says that problems can't be solved
within the mindset that created them. Okay. The first step to
any comprehensive economic and ecological change is to
understand the mental model that forms the basis of the present
economic thinking, the mindset of the present capitalist system,
and they're suggesting a natural capitalism, not a -- you know, do
away with capitalism, might be summarized as follows. And they
describe various things here.
My point is, is let's make sure that the Economic
Development Council isn't just a continuum of old-world thinking.
There's -- as things go on now, we're using up resources at a
pace that can't be sustained. And when other international
interests like China or other growing economies try to emulate
our standard of living materialistically, it's just not there. Okay?
So we have to give great consideration to sustainability. Show
me your suggestions in regard to sustainability, and I'll -- I'll be
on board.
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Efficiency, we have to be efficient, okay. And where
environmental interests versus development interests, we have
to choose the environment, for the most part, because that's
what sustains us. We cannot survive without the environment,
and we can't be putting off always, you know, the -- what we
need to -- to do. Economic progress can be -- can best occur in
the free-market system of production and distribution where
reinvested profits make laboring capital increasingly productive.
Most people would agree to that, but when you step outside the
box and evaluate that thinking in terms of what limited resources
are involved in -- in growing this economic machine, we have to
rethink what we've been doing. Competitive advantage is gained
when bigger and more efficient plants manufacture more
products for sale to expending -- expanding markets. Okay,
great. But when your resources are limited and when they're --
we're having such an impact around the globe with what we do,
it's something we have to consider.
The people in North America use 25 percent of the natural
resources. And we do a lot of good things with that. I'm not
putting down our -- our -- our system, right. I think it needs to be
refined. We're 5 percent of the people. And we use 25 percent of
the -- of the materials, and we waste tons of it, okay. I mean, it's
a resource at the end of the production system. It's a back end
of the GNP. We can make that part of our economy and be
responsible, you know. So, you know, anybody that's interested
in joining -- or joining -- in sharing information along these lines,
I'd love to talk to you. And, once again, you know, thanks for this
opportunity. I think you're doing great things in this regard.
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: For the listening audience, why
don't you give them your telephone number. They may have an
interest in your organization.
MR. KRASOWSKI: Okay. Well, I can be reached at 434-0786.
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COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: I'll just say for members of the
EDC board and otherwise, I found Bob's thought -- his work to be
thoughtful, thorough. He's not a zealous -- he's a well-spoken --
and he does his research. And he's really a good, good resource.
He has been for me. It wouldn't be a waste of your time.
MR. KRASOWSKI: Well, I appreciate that endorsement.
MS. PAREIGIS: Actually, I would -- I would just add, for the
board's sake, that we concur with what you said. We see also
that in the manufacturing -- maybe an example that I would love
to share with you and I actually have you tour is -- Hellermann
Tyton which is across from Collier's Reserve is what is called a
closed system so that anything that is used in the process is
reused in the process.
MR. KRASOWSKI: Excellent. Excellent.
MS. PAREIGIS: There is actually no by-products at the end
of -- of the process. In addition, I think our board is very
sensitive to -- it can't be either/or; it can't be economy or
environment. It absolutely has to be Iockstepped together and
must be balanced.
The companies that we're talking about with the smart
parks are looking for a green community. They're looking for a
livable community. They're looking for a walkable community as
well. So we actually see, if you look in Section 2, we actually
have some partnership letters in there, one of which is from The
Conservancy which actually says the mission of The
Conservancy and the mission of the EDC are complimentary to
each other, that, in fact, we are not looking at those population-
driven development jobs but, in fact, those knowledge-based jobs
which really do support a healthy environment. And we think
that's absolutely essential.
MR. KRASOWSKI: That's great. And I'm glad to hear your--
you have environmental interests as part of your involvement --
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MS. PAREIGIS: Commitment, I would say.
MR. KRASOWSKI: Commitment. Good. But--and The
Conservancy as an environmental institution, which I have great
regard and respect for, but represents one element of the
environmental community. Let's expand this to make sure
everybody is involved. The shirts and the ties and the blue collar
as well, they're the people that will handle, you know, recycling.
And composting operations are an important element in the
community. I hope that the EDC will have someone here on June
11th for the -- the solid waste or the materials reco -- the
workshop that's going to deal with various aspects of the -- that
the commissioners so wisely decided.
MS. PAREIGIS: If we're not in the room, we'll definitely be
watching it word for word.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Is that the Waste the Energy
workshop?
MR. KRASOWSKI: I didn't recall that, although it is billed on
that by your solid waste manager. I think it was a little general --
general workshop.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Thank you very much, Bob. We
have another speaker.
MR. MIHALIC: Mr. -- Mr. Bauer.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Thank you.
MR. OLLIFF: Any more?
MR. MIHALIC: That's it.
MR. BAUER: Well, good morning. I'm Mike Bauer, Audubon
of Florida's Southwest policy director.
Susan and Bob have -- have really stolen my thunder. I'm
going to echo some of the things they've said. I've heard some
very interesting things here this morning. I do think it's time for
some partnerships between the environmental community, the
business community, and the development community centered
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around this concept that we all share, the idea of quality of life. I
think this kind -- these kinds of partnerships are going to become
very important when we start talking about site-specific
recommendations, things that you didn't want to get into yet at
this point.
And Commissioner Carter's concept that he's talking about,
walk to work, I think, is just fascinating. I think that's something
we really have to explore more and more. But I wanted to let you
know that along this idea of partnerships -- later on this month
Dennis Gilkey of Bonita Beach, Mark Strain of Fiddler's Creek,
Rick Barber, Bob Mulhere, Michael Simonik, and I are going to be
sitting down and forming the basis for a smart growth task force.
And after this first meeting when we figure out what we're going
to do and how we're going to proceed, we're going to open this
up and start asking other people to join us, people like Susan and
-- and others in the community. But we're -- we're going to start
developing these kinds of partnerships with respect to these
ideas that you've been talking about today. I wanted to let you
know, give you a heads up.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Okay. Just a suggestion that you
talk to Dean Pegnetter and also John Fitch, if he's not already in
your loop, because he's been doing a lot of work on green -- the
green building and green development. He would be a really
good resource.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: I also would encourage you to
draw on International College locally and have them be a part of
that discussion.
MR. BAUER: I will do that.
appreciate it.
COMMISSIONER CARTER:
business?
MR. MIHALIC:
Great. Thank you very much. I
Okay. Thank you, sir. Any other
Al, did you want to make some closing
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statements or--
MR. REYNOLDS: Are you ready for me?
COMMISSIONER CARTER: We're ready for you.
MR. REYNOLDS: We can wrap up, quickly. Just a couple of
things. First, in going through this, we tried to boil down what
we thought were the ingredients of success. You know, this is a
-- a fairly young effort. The public-private partnership is 3 1/2
years old. We knew that -- that the -- the first stage was really
building the ability to tackle economic development in a
meaningful way. What we've done is we've identified what we
feel have been our ingredients for making this work. And they're
not necessarily in order, but certainly the first is -- is a clear
mission. We can -- we can say what the mission is in economic
development in one sentence, and that's the creation of high-
wage, value-added ]obs. We also recognize that -- that in starting
this up, we've had limited resources, and that's -- that's
understandable, and so that's why we've put such an emphasis
on strategic partnerships. There are a tremendous number of
organizations in this community that we are able to leverage this
effort through those partnerships. And when you look at our
program of action, you're going to see that a substantial portion
of what we do is in partnership not only with the county but with
a lot of other organizations to try to maximize the -- the net
effect.
Applied expertise, we have Susan Pareigis, who, by my
estimation, is -- is the best economic development professional
in the State of Florida.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Not just yours. A lot of people
agree.
MR. REYNOLDS: And she has assembled -- .
COMMISSIONER CARTER: You better raise your salary,
right, Susan?
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MS. PAREIGIS: Oh, yeah.
MR. REYNOLDS: But it really takes that effort and the
expertise of your staff and Greg and the assistance has -- really
allows us to be effective. Being very focused on what we're
doing, everything that we do we bring back to our mission
statement, say is this consistent with what we're trying to do.
And if it's not, it doesn't mean it's not important; it just means it's
not part of our mission, it's not part of what we're focused on.
I think the measurable results -- and we talked about the
fact that we do measure our results, and we do it in a way that is
very conservative because we want to make sure we can defend
and show that what we are doing is producing a result in one
that can be measured and action oriented that in, you know, the
proof is in the doing. And -- and we believe that very strongly.
None of us in this county have excess time. So it's important
that when we're doing things we're doing them in a way that
results in an action.
I think effective communications was talked about, and I
heard that -- that we need to do more in communications. And I
think that's a -- that's very good comment is that we need to get
the word out. We need to keep making sure that people
understand what economic development means to us and how to
accomplish it. And I think with that is the idea of a positive
image. And several people mentioned the fact that what we
have in Collier County that gives our competitive advantage is
our quality of life. And notwithstanding issues that we're dealing
with, we still have the best quality of life in Florida, and it's very
important that we keep projecting that image to the world, that
that is what we're about -- that's what we want to keep, and I will
assure that you that's something that I think you'll see in all of
our information that we put out there that the quality is always
the defining -- you know, the defining parameter.
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And so that's what we feel is resulting in -- in achieving what
we're trying to do at the Economic Development Council. And I
guess the -- the closers, I really want to thank Commissioner
Carter. I want to thank the board, Tom and John and Greg and --
and everybody that's working on this because this really is a
great example of -- of a true partnership effort, and we think it's
producing results, and we're very, very encouraged that the
board is supportive of it and recognizing that this is a long-term
effort. This is something that -- that we will measure the results
and the success 10 years from now or 15 years from now as to
whether we really accomplished our mission. So we thank you
for your time.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Thank you, sir. Comments from
the commissioners?
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: I'd just like to thank you, Alan,
Susan, for everything you've done, the rest of your committee.
The staff-- I can see some very positive results going forward on
this. I'm a little bit concerned we don't have representatives
here today from the environmental community. I am sure that
they will give us their input as we go into this process further. I
would suggest that at further workshops that maybe we get the
word out to them what the subject matter is going to be.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: I have nothing.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Well, my only comment is a
question, and that is -- I know the hour's late and I don't want to
open up a whole other can of worms, but we have been talking a
little bit at the county commission level about the airport
authority. And I wonder if it is something that is within the
mission of the EDC to help us measure the economic
development consequences of the Immokalee airport's existence
because I think as we start looking, we're going to ask the
productivity committee to give us a report on the efficiencies and
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the -- and the financial status of the Collier County Airport
Authority and perhaps other issues too. One of the things that
I'm wondering about is if there's a measurable way to determine -
- like you told us, we give you a dollar, you give us $139. Is there
a way to measure the economic impact to Collier County of the
Immokalee airport's incubator and other facilities?
I think that that might be an appropriate thing to begin to
look at on the issue of whether or not -- or to what extent the
airport authority pays back the investment that the county
commission has made that we have called its loans for many
years and are, in fact, its loans. But I wonder if it is measurable,
No. 1; No. 2, if it is something -- I know that you say, Alan, that
you measure everything against your mission statement. Is it
something we could look to the EDC for some help with in trying
to measure the economic impact of the Immokalee airport?
MS. PAREIGIS: I would just say, generally speaking, from
the private sector side, we always want to have performance
measurements in whatever that we do so we know we're being
successful or not. I think that performance measurements can
be crafted for the airport authority. But, again, you know, our
measurement is job creation. You need to determine at the
airport what it -- what the mission of that airport authority is.
You know, grant writing is maybe part and parcel of that, getting
customs on site, maybe part and parcel of those performance
measurements as well. And Greg may want to speak to the
issue. But I do believe that there are some industry standards
within aviation aerospace and actually airports. I know that the
Southwest Florida International Airport we now have Jeff Fridkin
on that as well. He may be a liaison for us as well to look at
some of their performance measurements that they're using.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: I just expect, going again from a -
- from a gut reaction, that we are going to find that this is an
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investment, likewise, that's paid substantial benefits and has
potential to pay extremely substantial returns in the future. And
I don't want to ignore that repayment that's coming to the
community. That's -- and I'm looking for a way to measure it.
MS. PAREIGIS: That's -- it's an investment.
MR. REYNOLDS: I -- I would say that but for the decision to
create the airport authority and what's happened out there, our
economic development efforts would be a two-legged stool
because airports maybe we failed to mention in the same breath
as infrastructure is probably the defining differential in most
economic development efforts. And, you know, I think it's
noteworthy that prior to the creation of the public-private
partnership, one of the things that occupied a tremendous
amount of the EDC's time was the recommendation of the
establishment of the Collier County airport.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: That's true.
MR. REYNOLDS: And recognizing that that was an
indispensable piece of the puzzle for us to have any kind of a
meaningful economic development effort here.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Well, I don't know if the rest of
the board is interested even in having that analysis undertaken,
and I -- you know, I am interested in it, and it may be something I
can pursue individually if it's not something that the board as a
whole is interested in. But I'd like to have some measurement of
the return on investment so far at the airport and, you know, a
projection of anticipated return from an economic development
standpoint as opposed to from a dollar, paid-back-for-dollar-
loaned standpoint.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: For -- before when we kind of
wrap that part up, Commissioner Fiala, let me get your
comments, and then I'd like to go back to Commissioner Mac'Kie.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Thank you. Two comments. First
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of all, I was wondering, Tom, somebody mentioned about the
workshop agendas and how many people maybe could be here or
watched. Is there a way that you could, number one, run a
workshop -- I know we have a whole list of all the workshops that
are coming up in the next few months -- if we could run it on
Channel 54 periodically and, secondly, if we could run it in the
Nal~les Daily News, the whole list, not just the one coming up,
but the whole list, once a week or something so people might be
able to loin us. And that was just a comment. I don't know that
it can be done or not, but please look into it.
And then secondly, Commissioner Carter, being that you're
our liaison with the EDC, I would love to have you call upon each
one of us whenever you need us, because we're going to back
you up on this to include the things that we're the liaison for like
the environment. For instance, Pam's the liaison for
environment, and I'm the work-force housing or the
redevelopment. Jim's the roads. I -- I can't even remember, Tom,
what you are. But, anyway, we'd love to be a support system for
you.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Carter's at bathroom. So just
remember that.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes. Yes, sir.
MR. PASSIDOMO: That could be important.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Considering our sewage
problems lately, you know, that's an important ]ob.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: So thank you.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Thank you. And there's no
question we can integrate all of this, and we need to because
each are a part of this that been discussed here this morning,
you must -- the focus on quality of life which is -- and has the
other stool economic feasibility and environmental sensitivity,
you always got that three-legged stool to fold everything in. And
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what's encouraging to me when the Audubon Society sits there
and says we want to work collectively at the table. And that's
where we haven't been in the past. We have not been
collectively at the table. People have been doing what I'm going
to call our own agendas instead of melding the agendas together
for the all -- good of the community, which comes back to the
subject that Commissioner Mac'Kie brought up about the airport
authority.
The airport authority to me is one that needs to be
integrated into this process as a part of our economic
development tool. And maybe we're not using the right
measurements. Maybe when they said to us we're trying to repay
loans to you may not be the direction we need to go. We got to
look at a bigger picture with that. What is it we want to
measure? What is the contributions of an airport authority? And
they really have been operating with their advisory board on their
own because no one was really paying whole lot of attention to
them but other than giving them -- and, rightly so, they give them
a lot of at-a-boys because they have been doing a great job out
there and doing. But if we don't integrate that into our total
process, then we're missing opportunities, because John Drury
and his group to me is a vital player in everything that we're
trying to accomplish.
So I think, yes, it needs to be measured. I wholeheartedly
support that. So we need an integration of what it is and how it
works and where it goes in the total picture because they may
not be sharing the same vision as we are or their visions -- our
visions are parallel, but we're not doing a good job with
communicating with each other on that aspect. So we want to
work on that and draw that in, because I don't want the airport
authority in my judgment ever feel that we're not supportive of
them, that we don't value what they're doing, because they are
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very, very important to us, as well as the Naples Airport
Authority, which is not our jurisdiction. But if you look at the
millions of dollars that generates in this community, it -- it cannot
be left out of this -- this equation because they are players, and
we just need to do a better job of making sure that we're going
there.
So I think it's -- it's a right direction, Commissioner Mac'Kie,
that we need to get the integration with the EDC, with the Board
of County Commissioners to make sure that we're going where
we want to go and doing what we need to do.
MR. OLLIFF: Mr. Chairman, in closing and sort of -- the EDC
members will have to excuse me. I don't get this opportunity too
often where I -- I've got them altogether and I can talk to them. I
distributed a memo that provides a proposed schedule of
workshops for the balance of the fiscal year. And I've tried to
make notes as we've gone along through the first four months,
the new commission, about the issues that I think have been of
interest and issues that I think could benefit us as -- as a board
and county government the most. So just take the time when
you get a chance and look over that. And if there are some
things, perhaps, that you think that we need to cover or that
aren't on that list or that we haven't already covered, by all
means, bring it up perhaps in our communications on the May 8th
meeting and let me know, and we can work on that. In the
meantime, we're going to be working with your schedules to try
and to schedule these items.
In closing, on -- on that list, though, you will notice the
airport authority is a scheduled workshop following the
productivity committee's review and recommendations. And
we've already begun that process. John, in fact, initiated it, I
believe, same day, on that Tuesday, asking the productivity
committee to get aggressive and start working with them.
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But just -- the only other thing I will leave you with on -- on
that point is I think historically we have always looked at the
airport strictly as an investment return issue in terms of dollars
and cash. And John Drury, myself, and the -- the director of the
airport advisory board met the other day. And I'm not sure that
as a philosophy we haven't taken the wrong road. And -- and
when we come back, I think John and -- and the board is going to
at least talk to you about the idea of the airport's already public
infrastructure facility a lot like your roads, your waters, and your
sewers.
And I'm not sure that you -- you need to always look at the
airports as some business return where we're strictly looking at
it from that -- that perspective. Granted, I think that they do
return a great deal more than a lot of your other public
infrastructures, but I think that there is a need and a public
benefit to simply having airports that are growing to meet --
match the demands of the community's growth, and I think you'll
see that as part of your budget presentation and probably as part
of that workshop that we have later on this year.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: And I think Commissioner
Mac'Kie made a great point. What is the payback of the airports?
And it would be great for the community to take a look at.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: I agree.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: We're all on the same page.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: It can happen.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Because we can't get together,
we -- we get together, and we always like to take opportunities
just to share a couple of quick things. As you know,
Commissioner Coletta and I were in Tallahassee for two days
last week. We worked with a lobbyist up there that was under
contract with our public utilities group, Bleu Wallace. He really
helped us a great deal working at the particularly identified bills
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and issues. We got to a lot -- we got to our own delegation, not
always to the representatives because they're on the floor and
with some of the senators, including our own senator, Burt
Saunders, and were able to make our presentations in terms of
what we were trying to accomplish in the areas, whether it was
environment, whether it was transportation, whether it was
healthcare, whether it was the eminent domain issues, whether
it was telecommunications. We don't know how we're going to
end up at the end of the session, but I will tell you if we weren't
there and we didn't make that effort, we would not have been as
successful in this effort.
It is pointed out to us, we as a county must make an effort.
We must work regionally. And Dr. Merwin yesterday in our
meeting said, you know, they want to host the review in June.
They want to host the next regional meeting. You collectively
find Southwest Florida is going to make a major effort to work on
the delegation -- work on the legislature, because that's the only
way we're going to have any opportunity to get flow funding --
funding over here in the future, because if we don't do it, it's -- all
the burden is going to fall locally. We don't want to be there. So
instead of working as independent entities, we're going to look
collectively going there and presenting those cases.
We also were able to accomplish some other issue-related
subjects in terms of where we're trying to go with Lely Barefoot
Beach, also with the gatehouse at Lely Barefoot and just let you
know that we were able to move some pieces forward just by
being there and having the opportunity to discuss that with the
appropriate people. I had a conversation with Secretary Seibert
and let him know that we're making ongoing progress in all of the
areas, explained to him where we were on Mirasol. He
appreciated the update. Again, he commends Collier County for
us working diligently through our committees and doing
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everything we're trying to do, and they believe that we will be a
model for the State of Florida and looking for a lot of our efforts
to pay big dividends. And they know that it is a difficult
assignment. They know that everything we do isn't always
accepted well everywhere by everyone. But on the aggregate,
they are proud of this board who may not have all the answers,
but we sure as heck are asking the right questions. And so we're
getting kudos from Tallahassee, from DCA, and that, I think, is
important for us. So that's, I think, kind of a quick update.
Commissioner Colettea?
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: I just wanted to add to that. I
think we need to be a little more proactive next year to start with
the legislation delegation before they get here to identify our
needs and the areas concerned and start a whole process from
the very beginning where we can track it and send
representatives up there on a regular basis. And I suggest we
always involve the private community to go up at their own
expenses. And I talked to a number of people that have an
interest in this for the good of the county to go up there, because
the more represent -- representatives we have to represent the
county, the better off we'll be in the long run. It will be a process
where we need to follow up with letters afterwards and be able
to track the bills of interest to the county. I'm sure if we do this
correctly there will be millions of dollars in savings, and cost
benefits will come back to the county.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: I'm going to continue to beat this
drum too. I think we need to continue professional lobbying
efforts.
COMMISSIONER COLETTA:
proactive ourselves.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE:
COMMISSIONER CARTER:
Yeah, In addition to us being
Both.
You need a quarterback up there.
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COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Right.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: And that's your lobbyist to do
that. They really know the system. They know how to get
around. They'll save you a huge amount of time. So it was -- I
think Jim and I would say it was a very interesting learning
curve.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE:
factory?
COMMISSIONER CARTER:
Didn't you call it the sausage
Yeah. That would probably be
the politest term I can call it, but it's -- it -- it really is something.
But I would tell you, we should be extremely proud of the people
who represent us, Senator Saunders and Representative
Goodlette. And Dudley Goodlette does a job on that house floor;
it is absolutely awesome. And he is the talk of Tallahassee. So I
believe that we are just truly blessed to have him there to be
working for us and --
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Make a awfully good speaker, I
think.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Oh, he is something else. I'm
going to tell you, he is great. So that's kind of it. Thank you-all
for being here. I believe, if nothing else, we stand --
MR. MIHALIC: I think they want to preview the website.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Oh, I'm sorry. Greg, I'm sorry. I
apologize.
MS. PAREIGIS: That's all right. We're good to go. We're
going to call it a day.
MR. MIHALIC: Well, they can look on the way up.
MS. PAREIGIS: I will -- I will share with you, we have a post-
legislative luncheon on May 31st at the Vineyards at 11:30. We'll
have the delegation there as well if you would like to come join
LIS,
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Thank you.
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have the delegation there as well if you would like to come join
US,
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: If you would send us a memo
our way on that, I'd appreciate it.
MS. PAREIGIS: Got it.
There being no further business for the good of the County,
the meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair at 11:40 a.m.
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