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Floodplain Management Planning Committee
Ray Smith, Chairman Mike DeRuntz, Vice-Chairman
Phillip Brougham Pierre Bruno Stan Chrzanowski Jerry Kurtz
Bob Devlin (Marco I.) Joseph Gagnier Travis Gossard Mac Hatcher
Christa Carrera (Naples) Adorn Kokkinos Herb Luntz Charles Martin
Lew Schmidt Dan Summers Clarence Tears John Torre
Jim Turner Duke Vasey Christine Sutherland
Terry Smallwood (Everglades City)
Meeting Minutes for 8.4.08 Regular Meeting
Start: 9:00 a.m. End: 10:55 a.m. Location: 2800 North Horseshoe Drive, Rm. 609
Meeting Attendance: Ray Smith, Rick Zyvoloski (substitute for Dan Summers), Jerry Kurtz,
John Torre, Mac Hatcher, Stan Chrzanowski, Travis Gossard, Adorn Kokkinos, Christine
Sutherland, Duke Vasey, Phillip Brougham, Pierre Bruno, Lew Schmidt, and Robert Wiley.
Absent: Mike DeRuntz (Excused), Jim Turner (Excused), Charles Martin, Clarence Tears, Herb
Luntz (Excused), Joseph Gagnier (Excused), Bob Devlin, Christa Carrera, and Terry Smallwood.
Meeting called to order by Ray Smith, Chairman.
OLD BUSINESS:
I. Committee approved the minutes for the 7-7-08 Regular Meeting. Motion to approve by Phil
Brougham, passed unanimously.
2. Distribution ofletter to Committee members from BCC chairman - Robert Wiley distributed
the letters addressing appointed committees stay focused on the issues for which they were
established. He explained that this was a letter sent to the membership of all the advisory
committees, and didn't apply to any problems the BCC Chairman has with the actions of the
FMPC. The letters will be mailed to those FMPC members not in attendance.
3. Flood zone determination and link to Property Appraiser web site - Robert Wiley briefly
discussed the efforts to correctly define the building footprint and the more restrictive flood
zone within that footprint using the County's GIS. No real progress to report as the details to
get it to work correctly are being resolved. Duke Vasey asked for regular updates on this
issue.
Phil Brougham mentioned the need to update the information on the Floodplain web site. A
discussion on the membership then ensued with Duke Vasey motioning to recommend that
the Floodplain Management Planning Committee (FMPC) adopt the standard advisory
committee policy for attendance. Discussion on the motion included asking the County
Manager to implement that standard policy for the FMPC. Phil Brougham requested that the
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County Manager write a letter to the one committee member who has not been attending for
months. Duke Vasey accepted the amendment to the motion and the motion passed with a
vote of 11 in favor and 1 abstention.
4. Action Items update and report on Sub-committee meeting - Robert Wiley reported that
previous membership and chairmanship of the sub-committees was incomplete, and only
Sub-Comm. #1 with Mike DeRuntz as chair, and Sub-Comm. #2 with Ray Smith as chair
have been established. Ray Smith proposed to get the sub-committees moving forward on
the various Action Plan items by selecting 4 actions items for work by the sub-committees
with staff being responsible for getting the work product ready for review. Robert Wiley will
set up the first of the sub-committee meetings where the chairman will be selected. The
chairman will set the subsequent sub-committee meetings until that Action Item is complete
and ready for presentation to the full FMPC. Phil Brougham requested that 1 staff person be
assigned to each Action Item to avoid confusion as to who is responsible.
John Torre volunteered to complete Action Item 6(d) - Library site visits and Action Item
6(b )(ii) - Web site update.
The FMPC determined that the two remaining Action Items for evaluation this first cycle
would be 5(f)(ii) and 5(f)(iii) which deal with use of perforated drain pipe throughout the
County and placement of cross culverts beneath roads in Golden Gate Estates. Robert Wiley
will schedule a meeting for these two items to be discussed by a sub-committee consisting of
Travis Gossard, Jerry Kurtz, Lew Schmidt, Stan Chrzanowski, Duke Vasey, and Mac
Hatcher.
5. Flood Damage Prevention Ordinance (amendments) - Ray Smith requested the FMPC
schedule a special meeting to discuss this ordinance. The FMPC members decided to use the
September 8, 2008 regular meeting with a single issue agenda. Robert Wiley will get a
written copy of the DRAFT ordinance mailed to each of the members at least 2 weeks in
advance along with an e-mail version. He will also notify all those on the FMPC mailing list
about the proposed discussion at the September meeting.
NEW BUSINESS
1. Discussion on perforated pipe - Stan discussed how perforated pipe would function in
relation to the high water table elevations in Collier County. Lew Schmidt thought the
original issue was in Naples Park, and Travis Gossard began a discussion on what was
designed and permitted for use in Naples Park. Jerry Kurtz addressed the loss of swale
storage capacity if they are piped. He asked the Committee to support the position to not
allow filling of swales in old developments. Duke Vasey added that the FMPC had
previously requested a standard swale cross section be established and that he also is opposed
to enclosing swales. At that point the Committee stopped discussion and recommended that
the sub-committee address the topic and bring it back to the full FMPC, perhaps as early as
October.
2. Discussion on cross drains in Golden Gate Estates - Tbis issue was jointly moved to the
proposed sub-committee level discussion for a later presentation to the full FMPC.
3. Public Comments - Phil Brougham discussed the efforts he and Robert Wiley were doing to
develop a flow chart showing the Floodplain Management Plan development and
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implementation process. He requested that once the flow chart is finalized and reviewed by
the FMPC, it be presented to the BCC to help them better understand the process.
4. Assignments for September 8, 2008 meeting
./ Continued discussion on higher regulatory standards ordinance development (Robert
Wiley)
Next Meeting (Monday, September 8, 2008 starting at 9:00 a.m. in Room 609 of the CDES
building located at 2800 North Horseshoe Drive, Naples, FL 34104)
y Smith passed unanimously at 10:55 a.m.
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