Forest Lakes MSTU Minutes 09/04/2012 •
FOREST_ ROADWAY AND DRAINAGE M.S.T.U.
LAKES 1 ADVISORY COMMITTEE rammurri 2885 HORSESHOE DRIVE SOUTH
NAPLES, FL 34104
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September 4, 2012
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Meeting was called to order at 10:05 a.m. by Robert Jones. Henning a 1�
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II. Attendance
Members: Robert Jones, George Fogg, Kenneth Bloom, Kevin McKyton,
Dick Barry (Excused),
County: Darryl Richard — Project Manager
Other: Scott Windham —Windham Studio, Sue Flynn —Juristaff
Ill. Approval of Agenda
Add: VIII. B. Pixiemoss Lane
George Fogg moved to approve the agenda as amended. Second by
Kenneth Bloom. Motion carried unanimously 4-0.
IV. Approval of Minutes —August 8, 2012
Change Page 3: 4th paragraph, 2nd sentence should read, "It was noted a
State Roll Back Mandate"
4th paragraph, last sentence add "Construction cost
could be cut if..."
6th paragraph, 1st sentence should read "Phases 2 & 3
and it was decided the Bid Tabulation would be in by
the October meeting"
George Fogg moved to approve the August 8, 2012 minutes as
amended with minor changes. Second by Kenneth Bloom. Motion
carried unanimously 4-0.
It was noted George Fogg will not be in attendance for the October 1St
Misc. Corres:
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V. Transportation Services Report
A. Budget Report
Darryl Richard reported Gloria Herrera is working on a variable with the
Budget Report. Once the report is completed it will be emailed to the
Advisory Committee.
B. Project Manager Report
Darryl Richard provided a copy of the County notice advertising Bid No.
12-5962 and reported: (See attached)
• Phase 2 - Sidewalk, Lighting and Landscape Beautification Project
was put out to bid on August 31St
• Bids are due back on October 1 2012 at 2:30 pm.
• The winning bid should be submitted to BCC in November and then
start Project in January 2013.
• Phase 1 - Project area is being maintained by Commercial Land as
per their existing services contract.
• Lantana at front entrance by sign needs to be cut back.
• Traffic Operations provided a new stop sign and a new post to
replace the one down.
• Once stop sign is installed it becomes the MSTU responsibility to
maintain.
• Stop sign will be installed on Thursday for safety purposes and pole
provided by Traffic Operations will be used until new poles are
installed.
George Fogg reported a safety issue with palm fronds hanging too low
over the sidewalk on Woodshire. He noted a similar problem with the
Royal Poinciana and recommended they be maintained and pruned.
Robert Jones reported a truck tried to turnaround at the no left turn sign
and damaged the sod. It was torn up with tire marks at Pine Ridge and
Woodshire.
Staff will check out damaged area.
Kenneth Bloom suggested the Committee consider installing matching
mail boxes to further enhance the Community.
Discussion was made on the possibility of the installation of matching mail
boxes. Staff asked Scott Windham to provide mail box specifications for
4-units for consideration.
VI. Landscape Architect's Report—Windham Studio (WSI)
Scott Windham distributed and reviewed the Forest Lakes MSTU Bond
Project F-58 Sidewalk Project and F-60 Cul-de-sac Improvements Status
Report dated August 8, 2012 as follows: (See attached)
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Phase 3
• TRT has begun the street lighting design and will have preliminary
plans for review to WSI by September 7th
• ABB prepared 3-turn lane conceptual options for review and
discussion. They will research signalization impacts of each option.
• Each plan incorporates a sidewalk connection from Forest Lakes Blvd
along the west ROW to Pine Ridge Rd.
Scott Windham distributed and reviewed 3-Options on the Forest Lakes
proposed turn land and sidewalk to Pine Ridge Road. (See attached)
• Option #1
- Least intrusive based on existing conditions
- Expands lanes approximately 5' to the west and east
- Encroaches into the sod area of the existing median
- Less curb revision on Pine Ridge Road
- Existing Ficus hedge will remain along the east
• Option #2
Same as Option #1 with the exception:
- All widening is to the east
- Requires relocating the hedge and removing a some Australian
pines
- Requires some curb tied into Pine Ridge Road and ROW
easement from the golf course.
• Option #3
Similar to Option #1 with the exception:
- Will provide a separate right turn that is stop controlled
- Several disadvantages; many hedges and trees will be removed
or relocated, significant work to Pine Ridge Roads existing
curbs, adding a new pork chop island and ROW easement from
the golf course.
- Pine Ridge Road dead end sidewalk and crosswalks are an
unfavorable existing condition that will become worse with this
design.
Scott Windham reported all concepts propose to take the golf cart traffic off
the road further south and out of the queue stacking area. He explained it
would be better, if possible, to use the private property to the south to get the
cart traffic completely off the road.
WSI and ABB will meet with County Staff and Transportation to discuss pros
and cons of each option. WSI will coordinate with George Fogg regarding the
Management Plan.
The Advisory Committee had a discussion on pros and cons of the 3-Options.
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Kenneth Bloom suggested installing a rowed curb and a yield sign at the
triangled concrete area located on incoming lane.
Scott Windham suggested creating a raised island with pavers at the
triangled area.
Kenneth Bloom moved to use Option #2 as the starting point for all
costs and actual dimensions in planning. Second by Kevin McKyton.
Motion carried unanimously 4-0.
Kenneth Bloom requested Staff contact the golf course or Turtle Lakes
regarding using property to get the cart traffic off the road.
Staff will converse with a representative for golf course and review pathways.
It was suggested adding a cross walk across from the Clubhouse and adding
a right hand lane.
George Fogg made the following observations and suggestions:
• Dress up the front entrance by removing existing lights and install new
light poles on east and west sides.
• New sidewalk adjustments required by engineer.
• Is Ficus on the prohibited plant list?
Kenneth Bloom expressed concern regarding Century Link parking on
sidewalk at the main box at the entrance. He suggested giving an option to
pull in or back up that area. It was decided extra reinforcement of sidewalk is
necessary.
Scott Windham reported working on Phases 1, 2 and 3 Maintenance
Specifications with Staff and George Fogg.
Staff expressed concern the Golf Course Clubhouse has not been mowing
the swale on golf course as agreed. The unmaintained swale is a distraction
to the project.
Kenneth Bloom moved to have MSTU take over the maintenance of the
swale area on the left hand side of Forest Lakes Boulevard, the single
family side by the golf course maintenance area. Second by Kevin
McKyton. Motion carried unanimously 4-0.
George Fogg suggested changing the Lantana plants with annuals.
Scott Windham will make recommendations for small bed of annuals with
seasonal colors.
VII. Old Business — None
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VIII. New Business
A. Clubhouse Flag
Robert Jones suggested the MSTU take over maintaining the flag at the
clubhouse. He expressed concern the flag has never been taken care of.
The Advisory Board formed a consensus the flag was on golf course
property and should be maintained by the golf course.
It was suggested the MSTU install 3-flags at the entrance behind the sign
and request Staff direct Design Consultant to include flags and lighting as
part of the design.
B. Pixiemoss Lane
Darryl Richard distributed correspondence dated August 26, 2012 signed
by Pixiemoss Lane residents. (See attached)
He reviewed the original scenario as the Pixiemoss Lane residents were
against the proposed new design cul-de-sac plans and the year round
residents of Pixiemoss wanted to leave things as they are. He presented
emails regarding the Pixiemoss cal-de-sac stating they want landscaping.
(See attached)
It was suggested the request be placed on the back end of the wish list
since detailed direction was on file. Concern was expressed on other
streets that also opt out.
Scott Windham suggested adding an addendum to Phase 2.
George Fogg disagreed and suggested consideration of the Pixiemoss
Lane cul-de-sac landscaping in Phase 3 under miscellaneous costs.
George Fogg moved to revisit cul-de-sac landscaping for those did
not get any plants and for those who wish to have them added, the
MSTU will consider it in Phase 3. Second by Kenneth Bloom. Motion
carried unanimously 4-0.
Kenneth Bloom moved to adjourn. Second by George Fogg.
Motion carried unanimously 4-0.
IX. Public Comments
There being no further business to come before the Committee, the
meeting was adjourned by the Chair at 11:25 A.M.
Forest Lakes Roadway and Drainage
MSTU Advisory Committee
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Robert Jones, Chair a
These minutes approved by the Committee on //' 1 / 7
as presented , or amended
Next meeting is October 2, 2012 at 10:00 a.m.
Forest Lakes Condo Association Clubhouse,
1058 Forest Lakes Drive
Naples, FL 34105
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