BCC Minutes 06/25/2013 R BCC
REGULAR
MEETING
MINUTES
JUNE 25, 2013
June 25, 2013
TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
Naples, Florida, June 25, 2013
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Board of County
Commissioners, in and for the County of Collier, and also acting as
the Board of Zoning Appeals and as the governing board(s) of such
special districts as have been created according to law and having
conducted business herein, met on this date at 9:00 a.m., in
REGULAR SESSION in Building "F" of the Government Complex,
East Naples, Florida, with the following members present:
CHAIRWOMAN: Georgia Hiller
Tom Henning
Tim Nance
Fred Coyle
Donna Fiala
ALSO PRESENT:
Leo Ochs, County Manager
Jeffrey A. Klatzkow, County Attorney
Derek Johnssen, Clerk's Assistant Finance Director
Mike Sheffield, Business Operations Manager - CMO
Troy Miller, Television Operations Manager
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COLLIER COUNTY
Board of County Commissioners
Community Redevelopment Agency Board (CRAB)
Airport Authority
AGENDA
Board of County Commission Chambers
Collier County Government Center
3299 Tamiami Trail East, 3rd Floor
Naples FL 34112
June 25, 2013
9:00 AM
Georgia Hiller - BCC Chairwoman; BCC Commissioner, District 2
Tom Henning - BCC Vice - Chairman; BCC Commissioner, District 3
Donna Fiala - BCC Commissioner, District 1; CRAB Vice- Chairman
Fred W. Coyle - BCC Commissioner, District 4
Tim Nance - BCC Commissioner, District 5; CRAB Chairman
NOTICE: ALL PERSONS WISHING TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEMS MUST
REGISTER PRIOR TO SPEAKING. SPEAKERS MUST REGISTER WITH THE
EXECUTIVE MANAGER TO THE BCC PRIOR TO PRESENTATION OF THE
AGENDA ITEM TO BE ADDRESSED. ALL REGISTERED SPEAKERS WILL
RECEIVE UP TO THREE (3) MINUTES UNLESS THE TIME IS ADJUSTED BY
THE CHAIRMAN.
COLLIER COUNTY ORDINANCE NO. 2003-53 AS AMENDED BY
ORDINANCE 2004 -05 AND 2007 -249 REQUIRES THAT ALL LOBBYISTS
SHALL, BEFORE ENGAGING IN ANY LOBBYING ACTIVITIES (INCLUDING
BUT NOT LIMITED TO, ADDRESSING THE BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS), REGISTER WITH THE CLERK TO THE BOARD AT THE
BOARD MINUTES AND RECORDS DEPARTMENT.
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REQUESTS TO ADDRESS THE BOARD ON SUBJECTS WHICH ARE NOT ON
THIS AGENDA MUST BE SUBMITTED IN WRITING WITH EXPLANATION
TO THE COUNTY MANAGER AT LEAST 13 DAYS PRIOR TO THE DATE OF
THE MEETING AND WILL BE HEARD UNDER "PUBLIC PETITIONS."
PUBLIC PETITIONS ARE LIMITED TO THE PRESENTER, WITH A
MAXIMUM TIME OF TEN MINUTES.
ANY PERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL A DECISION OF THIS BOARD
WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDING PERTAINING THERETO,
AND THEREFORE MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD
OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE
TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED.
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YOU ARE ENTITLED, AT NO COST TO YOU, THE PROVISION OF CERTAIN
ASSISTANCE. PLEASE CONTACT THE COLLIER COUNTY FACILITIES
MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT LOCATED AT 3335 EAST TAMIAMI TRAIL,
SUITE 1, NAPLES, FLORIDA, 34112 -5356, (239) 252 -8380; ASSISTED
LISTENING DEVICES FOR THE HEARING IMPAIRED ARE AVAILABLE IN
THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' OFFICE.
LUNCH RECESS SCHEDULED FOR 12:00 NOON TO 1:00 P.M
1. INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
A. Rabbi Adam Miller - Temple Shalom
2. AGENDA AND MINUTES
A. Approval of today's consent agenda as amended (Ex Parte Disclosure
provided by Commission members for consent agenda.)
B. Approval of today's summary agenda as amended (Ex Parte Disclosure
provided by Commission members for summary agenda.)
C. Approval of today's regular agenda as amended.
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D. May 28, 2013 - BCC/Regular Meeting
E. June 4, 2013 - BCC /Impact Fees/Economic Development Incentive
Workshop
3. SERVICE AWARDS - EMPLOYEE
A. 20 Year Attendees
1) Barry Erickson, Water
2) Michael Patten, Road Maintenance
3) Susan Peck, Library
B. 25 Year Attendees
1) David Becker, EMS
2) Franklin Chain, Road Maintenance
3) Lynn Evans, Fleet Management
4. PROCLAMATIONS
A. Proclamation designating July 2013 as Bladder Cancer Awareness Month in
Collier County. To be accepted by Carla L. Dean, President and James T.
Dean, Jr., Treasurer, Bladder Cancer Foundation of Florida, Inc. Sponsored
by Commissioner Coyle.
B. Proclamation designating July 1, 2013 as Diane Flagg Day in Collier County
in recognition of her retirement from Collier County Government after 32
years of service. To be accepted by Diane Flagg, Director, Code
Enforcement Department. Sponsored by Commissioner Fiala and
Commissioner Henning.
5. PRESENTATIONS
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6. PUBLIC PETITIONS
7. PUBLIC COMMENTS ON GENERAL TOPICS
Item #8 and Item #9 to be heard no sooner than 1:00 pm unless otherwise noted.
8. BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS
9. ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARINGS
10. BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
A. Appointment of member to the Public Transit Ad Hoc Advisory Committee.
B. Appointment of members to the Contractors Licensing Board.
C. Appointment of member to the Black Affairs Advisory Board.
D. Appointment of member to the Educational Facilities Authority.
E. Appointment of member to the Industrial Development Authority.
F. Appointment of member to the Airport Authority Advisory Board.
G. Recommendation to accept the rankings from the Collier County Public
Safety Authority for Request for Proposals (RFP) # 13 -6081 Medical
Director and Deputy Medical Director and determine final action.
H. Recommendation that the Board of County Commissioners (BCC), acting in
its capacity as the Community Redevelopment Agency (CRA), approve the
relocation of the Immokalee CRA Office, authorize giving notice to the
CRA's current landlord of its intent not to renew the existing lease
agreement, approve entering into a lease agreement for office space with the
Southwest Florida Workforce Development Board, Inc., and authorize the
CRA Chair to sign the attached lease agreement with an annual CRA rent
expenditure of not -to- exceed $21,766.32. (750 South Fifth Street,
Immokalee). (Commissioner Henning) This item was approved for
reconsideration at the June 11, 2013 BCC meeting.
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I. Recommendation to direct the County Manager to prepare and present a
summary Inventory of Collier County capital assets that have had
programmed maintenance or replacement that has been delayed or deferred
due to lack of sufficient funding, together with an estimate of the expense
and fiscal obligation that has been deferred in 2013 dollars. Inventory to list,
identify, and break out detail of the delayed maintenance needs and projects,
together with expense estimates for each category, including an itemization
of any individual asset or system needing replacement or upgrade, or any
aggregate maintenance project under a listed category estimated to cost in
excess of $250,000.
11. COUNTY MANAGER'S REPORT
A. Recommendation to accept report and recommendations regarding potential
locations for radio controlled airplanes, boats and cars within the Collier
County parks system. (Barry Williams, Parks and Recreation Director)
B. This item to be heard at 11:00 a.m. Recommendation to 1) adopt a
resolution authorizing additional disbursements under two existing State
Revolving Fund loan agreements, as amended, with the State of Florida
Department of Environmental Protection in an aggregate principal amount
not to exceed $25,000,000 to refund a portion of the Collier County Water -
Sewer District Water and Sewer Revenue Bonds, Series 2006; 2) Authorize
the execution and delivery of two State Revolving Fund loan agreement
amendments; and, 3) authorize the execution and delivery of an escrow
deposit agreement with U.S. Bank National Association. (Joe Bellone,
Utility Finance Operations Director)
C. Recommendation to approve a resolution extending the "Impact Fee
Program for Existing Commercial Redevelopment" to July 1, 2014, based on
the continuing interest in the Program and the ongoing discussions related to
commercial impact fees. (Amy Patterson, Impact Fee Manager)
12. COUNTY ATTORNEY'S REPORT
13. OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS
A. This item to be heard at 11:30 a.m. Presentation by the Clerk of the
Circuit Court's Office regarding Audit Report 2013 -4 Parks and Recreation
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Freedom Park Follow -Up Cash Review.
14. AIRPORT AUTHORITY AND /OR COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT
AGENCY
A. AIRPORT
B. COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
1) Recommendation that the Board of County Commissioners (BCC),
acting in its capacity as the Community Redevelopment Agency
(CRA), approve the relocation of the Immokalee CRA Office,
authorize giving notice to the CRA's current landlord of its intent not
to renew the existing lease agreement, approve entering into a lease
agreement for office space with the Southwest Florida Workforce
Development Board, Inc., and authorize the CRA Chair to sign the
attached lease agreement with an annual CRA rent expenditure of not -
to- exceed $21,766.32. (750 South Fifth Street, Immokalee).
2) Recommendation for the CRA to approve relocating the Bayshore
Gateway Triangle CRA office to 3570 Bayshore Drive, approve a 3-
year office lease with 3570 Bayshore LLC, (Exhibit "C ") and
authorize the CRA Chairman to sign the lease agreement.
15. STAFF AND COMMISSION GENERAL COMMUNICATIONS
A. Current BCC Workshop Schedule.
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16. CONSENT AGENDA - All matters listed under this item are considered to be
routine and action will be taken by one motion without separate discussion of
each item. If discussion is desired by a member of the Board, that item(s) will
be removed from the Consent Agenda and considered separately.
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A. GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIVISION
1) Recommendation to approve an Easement Agreement and Temporary
Easement Agreement in order to acquire both a drainage easement
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(Parcel No. 273DE) and a temporary construction easement (Parcel
No. 273TCE) which are needed for construction of the Haldeman
Creek and Crown Pointe weirs as part of the Lely Area Stormwater
Improvement Project No. 51101 (1913). Estimated fiscal impact:
$2,500 plus recording costs of less than $100.
2) Recommendation to approve the short-list of design professionals for
RFP 913 -6085 and to enter into negotiations between Collier County
and Kisinger Campo & Associates, Corp., for "Design & Related
Services for the Vanderbilt Drive Bridge Replacements" ( #030177 &
#030178) Project No. 66066.
3) Recommendation to approve a Mediated Settlement Agreement with
property owner, Luis Pineros, and a Stipulated Final Judgment to be
drafted incorporating the same terms and conditions as the Mediated
Settlement Agreement, awarding compensation, inclusive of all fees
and costs, in the amount of $54,900 for Parcel 204RDUE in the
lawsuit styled Collier County v. Joseph Noel, et al., Case No. 07-
3200-CA (Oil Well Road Project #60044). (Fiscal Impact: $46,670).
4) Recommendation to approve an Agreed Order Awarding Expert Fees
and Attorney Fees in connection with Parcels 111 FEE and 111 TCE in
the lawsuit styled Collier County v. A L Subs, Inc., et al., Case No.
09- 3691 -CA, Collier Boulevard Project No. 60092 (Fiscal Impact:
$14,000).
5) Recommendation to consider the annual traffic count payments as
fulfilled within the Vineyards PUD based upon changes to the Land
Development Code.
6) Recommendation to approve the release of lien in the amount of
$74,080 for payment of $530, in the Code Enforcement Action
entitled Board of County Commissioners vs. Irma Arrendondo, Code
Enforcement Board Case Number CEPM20120001359, relating to
property located at 1948 45th Terrace S.W., Collier County, Florida.
7) Recommendation to approve final acceptance of the private roadway
and drainage improvements for the final plat of Veronawalk Phase
313, (AR -6688) with the roadway and drainage improvements being
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privately maintained and authorize the County Manager, or his
designee, to execute the attached resolution authorizing final
acceptance of the improvements and acceptance of the plat
dedications, and release of the maintenance security in the amount of
$352,552.
8) This item requires that ex parte disclosure be provided by
Commission members. Should a hearing be held on this item, all
participants are required to be sworn in. Recommendation to
approve for recording the final plat of Regal Acres Phase One
(Application PPLA- PL20130000314), approval of the standard form
Construction and Maintenance Agreement and approval of the amount
of the performance security.
9) Recommendation to award a contract for ITB No. 13 -6100, Annual
Bid Stop Signs, to Municipal Supply and Sign Company.
10) Recommendation to approve the standard form Construction,
Maintenance and Escrow Agreement for road and utility
improvements required by the Hacienda Lake Planned Unit
Development Ord. No. 11 -41.
11) Recommendation to recognize FY2013 -14 Transportation
Disadvantage Planning Grant funding in the amount of $25,896 to the
Collier Metropolitan Planning Organization from the Commission for
the Transportation Disadvantaged and to authorize the necessary
budget amendment.
12) Recommendation to approve and authorize the Chairwoman to sign a
Maintenance Agreement between Collier County and Bent Creek
Preserve LLC in order for them to maintain a future wet lake for the
County and to indemnify the County in regards to the wet lake.
13) Recommendation to appoint Jennifer Hecker and Jeremy Frantz
(Alternate) to the RESTORE Evaluation Committee as representatives
of The Conservancy of Southwest Florida to replace the current
representative Andrew McElwaine.
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14) Recommendation to acknowledge and approve the "HITS Triathlon
Series ", event to take place in Collier County on January 12 -13, 2014,
including evening hours.
15) Recommendation to approve and authorize the Chairwoman to sign a
Cost Share Agreement between Collier County and Forest Glen Golf
& Country Club Homeowners Association in order to provide an
interim access improvement into Forest Glen.
B. COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
1) Recommendation that the CRA Board approve a budget amendment
to reestablish funds to reimburse a CRA approved Commercial
Building Improvement Grant.
2) Recommendation that the Board of County Commissioners, acting as
the Community Redevelopment Agency, approve a Co- Sponsorship
Agreement with the U.S. Small Business Administration (SBA), to
co- sponsor Small Business Training Sessions with the Immokalee
Business Development Center (IBDC) in Immokalee.
C. PUBLIC UTILITIES DIVISION
1) Recommendation to approve a work order under Request For
Quotation #08- 5011 -94 in the amount of $355,500 to Haskins, Inc. for
Irrigation Quality Water /Reuse Valve Replacement under North
County Water Reclamation Facility Technical Support Project
Number 73968.
2) Recommendation to approve and ratify staff s extension of Contract
No. 11 -5749, "Electrical Upgrades at the South County Water
Reclamation Facility," with Gulf States Electric, Inc., in order to
process the Contractor's final invoice for work completed at the South
County Water Reclamation Facility.
3) Recommendation to 1) adopt a Resolution authorizing the current
refunding of the Collier County Water -Sewer District Water and
Sewer Refunding Revenue Bonds, Series 200313; 2) authorize the
issuance of Collier County Water -Sewer District Water and Sewer
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Refunding Revenue Bond, Series 2013 in a principal amount not to
exceed $18,000,000; and, 3) authorize the execution and delivery of
escrow deposit agreement with The Bank of New York Mellon Trust
Company, N.A. This action is taken pursuant to previous Board
approval on June 11, 2013 of the refunding proposal from PNC Bank.
4) Recommendation to authorize a budget amendment in the total
amount of $650,000 to fund planned water utility projects in the raw
water wellfield, at the North County Regional Water Treatment Plant,
and at the distribution repump stations, under Project Numbers 71066,
71067, and 70085.
D. PUBLIC SERVICES DIVISION
1) Recommendation to recognize FY 2012/2013 Federal Transit
Administration Section 5311 additional revenue in the amount of
$36,657 requiring a 50% required match in the amount of $36,657 and
authorize all necessary budget amendments.
2) Recommendation to approve the FY2013/14 Transportation
Disadvantaged Trust Fund Trip/Equipment Grant Agreement with the
Florida Commission for the Transportation Disadvantaged (CTD) in
the amount of $853,953 with a local match of $94,875; to approve a
resolution authorizing the Chairwoman of the Board of County
Commissioner (BCC) to execute the agreement; and, authorize the
required budget amendments.
3) Recommendation to approve the 2013 Annual Progress Report of the
Collier County Transit Development Plan and authorize its
submission to the Florida Department of Transportation (FDOT).
4) Recommendation to approve a budget amendment recognizing and
appropriating $128,900 of unbudgeted carryforward in the Museum
operating fund.
5) Recommendation to approve a grant application for a 3 -year Florida
Department of Children and Families Criminal Justice, Mental Health
and Substance Abuse Reinvestment Grant that is part of the Victims
Advocacy Organization (VAO) Grant Program for expansion of Drug
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Court Programs (Fiscal Impact $1,707,183 over 3 years).
6) Recommendation to approve the after the fact submittal of the three
attached project proposals to the Florida Department of Transportation
(FDOT) for the State Discretionary Transit Service Development
Program and State Park - and -Ride Lot Program for a total funding
request of $1,600,000 ($800,000 of grant funds and $800,000 of local
match).
7) Recommendation to award ITB #13 -6032 in the amount of $49,560 to
FA Remodeling and Repairs, for cleaning and painting of the Roller
Hockey Rink at Veterans Community Park and authorize the Board's
Chairwoman to approve the attached County Attorney reviewed
contract.
8) Recommendation to approve one (1) mortgage satisfaction for the
State Housing Initiative Partnership (SHIP) loan in the amount of
$2,500.
9) Recommendation to approve the adoption of the same Subordination
Policy, forms and agreement currently used under the State Housing
Initiatives Partnership (SHIP) Program for all future State, and
Federal requests.
10) Recommendation to approve substantial amendments to the FY2010-
2011 and FY2012 -2013 Action Plans to clarify the project scope for
Collier County Community Redevelopment Agency - Immokalee
Business Development Center (IBDC), re- allocate unspent project
funds for U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development
(HUD) Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) and HOME
Partnership Investment (HOME) funds and approve any necessary
budget amendments.
11) Recommendation to approve a Grant Agreement Amendment between
Collier County and the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban
Development (HUD) for the 2010 Shelter Plus Care Program, Project
Number FL0394C4DO61222 and accept Collier County Housing
Authority's termination of a subrecipient contract in order to change
the project sponsor from the County to Collier County Housing
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Authority.
12) Recommendation to approve an amendment to the Administrative
Plan for the Neighborhood Stabilization Program 1 (NSP 1) and the
Neighborhood Stabilization Program 3 (NSP3).
13) Recommendation to approve amendments between Collier County
and the Area Agency on Aging for Southwest Florida, Inc. d/b /a
Senior Choices of Southwest Florida to amend the contracted service
years in the Community Care for the Elderly (CCE), Home Care for
the Elderly (HCE) and Alzheimer's Disease Initiative (ADI) programs
for FY2012/2013.
14) Recommendation to approve the First Amendment to Agreement with
David Lawrence Mental Health Center, Inc. (DLC) for substance
abuse and mental health services, which will revise the performance
measurable goals contained in the Performance Outcome Report.
15) Recommendation to authorize reimbursement to the grantor agency,
Senior Choices of Southwest Florida, in the amount of $318 for
overpayment in the Home Care for the Elderly Grant Basic Subsidy
stipend to a Collier County Senior's caregiver.
16) Recommendation to approve a budget amendment in the amount of
$35,764.50 and recognize revenue generated from case management
and case aide from the Medicaid Waiver program.
17) Recommendation to accept the donation of a Phillips Heartstart
Automated External Defibrillator from the Collier County Senior
Softball group for use by the Parks and Recreation Department.
18) Recommendation to award Invitation to Bid (ITB) #13 -6116 Shade
Structure Replacement, to Sunmaster of Naples, Inc. to supply and
install complete shade covers for the soccer and softball shade
structures at North Collier Regional Park.
19) Recommendation to award Invitation to Bid (ITB) #12-5976 "Golden
Gate MSTU/MSTD Grounds Maintenance" to Hannula Landscape &
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Irrigation Inc.
20) Recommendation to award Invitation to Bid (ITB) #13 -6079
Veterinary Medicine and Supplies, to Merritt Veterinary Supplies
Inc.; authorize staff to purchase any item not immediately available
from Merritt Veterinary Supply, Inc. per Purchasing Policy; and
authorize staff to participate in manufacturer's animal shelter discount
programs.
21) Recommendation to approve and execute the documents necessary to
convey two easements to Florida Power & Light Company on County
property at the Gordon River Greenway Park; Project No. 80065.1.
22) Recommendation to approve and execute the documents necessary to
convey an easement to Lee County Electric Cooperative, Inc. on
County property at the Immokalee South Park; Project No. 800851.
23) Recommendation to approve the Memorandum of Agreement (MOA)
between the Florida Commission for the Transportation
Disadvantaged (CTD) and the Collier County Board of County
Commissioners (BCC) for continued funding of the Transportation
Disadvantaged (TD) Paratransit Program.
E. ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES DIVISION
1) Recommendation to authorize a budget amendment recognizing
unanticipated revenue of $50,000 in Fund 188, the 800 MHz
Intergovernmental Radio Communication Program (IRCP) and
appropriate the revenue for radio system maintenance expenses.
2) Recommendation to approve agreements for Request for Proposal
(RFP) #13 -6099 Commercial and Residential Real Estate and
Property Management and authorize the Chairwoman to execute the
contracts with Commercial Real Estate Consultants LLC and Premiere
Plus Realty Co.
3) Recommendation to approve the purchase of flood insurance effective
July 1, 2013 in the estimated amount of $105,183.
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4) Recommendation to authorize the purchase of American Power
Conversion (APC) power and cooling equipment maintenance
agreements from GovConnections, Inc., utilizing the State of Florida
Contract #250- 000 -09 -1.
5) Recommendation to accept the Emergency Management Preparedness
and Assistance Grant in the amount of $105,806 for program
enhancement and approve the associated budget amendment.
6) Recommendation to approve a Federally Funded Subgrant Agreement
and other documents required to accept the annual Emergency
Management Preparedness and Assistance Grant (EMPG), in the
amount of $97,123 for emergency management planning, response,
and mitigation efforts and to authorize the necessary budget
amendment.
F. COUNTY MANAGER OPERATIONS
1) Recommendation to adopt a resolution approving amendments
(appropriating grants, donations, contributions or insurance proceeds)
to the Fiscal Year 2012 -13 Adopted Budget.
2) Recommendation to approve refunds of Affordable Housing
Contributions to The Mercato, LLP in the amount of $286,867 and to
GMRI, Inc. in the amount of $5,094.50, due to the removal of an
Affordable Housing Contribution commitment from the Mercato
Mixed Use Planned Use Development.
3) Recommendation to approve refunds of Affordable Housing
Contributions to Sembler Family Partnership #41, Ltd. in the amount
of $40,000, and to Bank of America, NA in the amount of $2,286.50,
due to the removal of an Affordable Housing Contribution
commitment from the Brooks Village Commercial Planned Use
Development.
4) Recommendation to approve a refund of an Affordable Housing
Contribution to Scripps Media, Inc. totaling $55,587, due to the
removal of an Affordable Housing Contribution commitment from the
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Naples Daily News Business Park Planned Unit Development.
5) Recommendation to approve a Release of Lien for Jasmine Cay
Associates Ltd. for the Jasmine Cay Apartments, due to the impact
fees being paid in full in accordance with the terms of the 1994
Deferral Agreement and the Multi- family Rental Impact Fee Deferral
Program, as set forth by Section 74- 401(e) and 74- 401(g) (5) of the
Collier County Code of Laws and Ordinances.
6) Recommendation to approve a budget amendment in the amount of
$5,200 from the Court Administration Fund (68 1) to the Teen Court
Fund (171).
G. AIRPORT AUTHORITY
1) This item continued from the June 11, 2013 BCC Meeting.
Recommendation to approve the attached Standard Form Lease
Agreement between Southern Illinois Custom Aerial, LLC and the
Collier County Airport Authority for improved property at the
Immokalee Regional Airport.
2) Recommendation that the Board of County Commissioners, acting in
its capacity as the Collier County Airport Authority, approve and
authorize the Airport Authority's Executive Director to execute the
attached Temporary Commercial Aeronautical Use Agreement with
BAE Systems to utilize a portion of the aircraft apron at the Marco
Island Executive Airport from July 19 through July 31, 2013.
H. BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
I. MISCELLANEOUS CORRESPONDENCE
1) Miscellaneous correspondence to file with action as directed.
J. OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS
1) To obtain Board approval for disbursements for the period of May 30,
2013 through June 5, 2013 and for submission into the official records
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of the Board.
2) To obtain Board approval for disbursements for the period of June 6,
2013 through June 13, 2013 and for submission into the official
records of the Board.
3) Recommendation to designate the Sheriff as the official applicant and
point of contact for the U.S. Department of Justice, Office of Justice
Programs, Bureau of Justice Assistance Edward Byrne Memorial
Justice Assistance Grant (JAG) FYI Local Standard grant, authorize
the electronic submission of the application, accept the grant when
awarded, approve associated budget amendments and approve the
Collier County Sheriff s Office to receive and expend 2013 JAD
Standard grant funds.
K. COUNTY ATTORNEY
1) Recommendation to direct the County Attorney to advertise two
ordinances which would effectively merge the Environmental
Advisory Council (EAC) into the Collier County Planning
Commission (CCPC).
17. SUMMARY AGENDA - THIS SECTION IS FOR ADVERTISED PUBLIC
HEARINGS AND MUST MEET THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA: 1) A
RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL FROM STAFF; 2) UNANIMOUS
RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL BY THE COLLIER COUNTY
PLANNING COMMISSION OR OTHER AUTHORIZING AGENCIES OF
ALL MEMBERS PRESENT AND VOTING; 3) NO WRITTEN OR ORAL
OBJECTIONS TO THE ITEM RECEIVED BY STAFF, THE COLLIER
COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION, OTHER AUTHORIZING
AGENCIES OR THE BOARD, PRIOR TO THE COMMENCEMENT OF
THE BCC MEETING ON WHICH THE ITEMS ARE SCHEDULED TO BE
HEARD; AND 4) NO INDIVIDUALS ARE REGISTERED TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION TO THE ITEM. FOR THOSE ITEMS WHICH ARE QUASI -
JUDICIAL IN NATURE, ALL PARTICIPANTS MUST BE SWORN IN.
A. This item requires that ex parte disclosure be provided by Commission
members. Should a hearinLy be held on this item, all participants are
required to be sworn in. Recommendation to approve Petition VAC-
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PL20130000515, to disclaim, renounce and vacate the County and the public
interest in a portion of a 12.5 -foot wide Drainage Easement, being a part of
Lot 39, Block KK, Quail West Phase III, Unit 7, Plat Book 46, pages 89
through 102 of the Public Records of Collier County, Florida, also being a
part of Section 8, Township 48 South, Range 26 East, Collier County,
Florida, more specifically shown in Exhibit A.
B. This item requires that ex parte disclosure be provided by Commission
members. Should a hearing be held on this item, all participants are
required to be sworn in. Recommendation to approve Petition VAC -
PL20130000583, to disclaim, renounce and vacate the County and the public
interest in a 20 -foot wide Lake Maintenance Easement (L.M.E.), being a part
of Tract E of Fiddlers Creek Phase 5, Aviamar Unit One, Plat Book 45,
pages 34 through 39 of the Public Records of Collier County, Florida, also
being a part of Section 13, Township 51 South, Range 26 East, Collier
County, Florida, more specifically shown in Exhibit A, and accept the grant
of a replacement easement.
C. Recommendation to consider a Resolution affirming that a sporting goods
store is a comparable and compatible use within the commercial plan
designated areas of the Tollgate Commercial Center Planned Unit
Development, as authorized in Section 3.3.A.(n) of Ordinance 92 -10 as
amended. The subject property is located in Section 35, Township 49 South,
Range 26 East, Collier County, Florida. (ZLTR- PL20130000494)
D. Recommendation to consider a Resolution affirming that manufacturing of
small arms and small arms ammunition are comparable and compatible uses
within the industrial development designated areas of the White Lake
Industrial Corporate Park Planned Unit Development as authorized in
Section 3.2.A.36) of Ordinance 01 -59 as amended. The subject property is
located in Section 35, Township 49 South, Range 26 East, Collier County,
Florida. (ZLTR- PL20130000495)
E. This item requires that ex parte disclosure be provided by Commission
members. Should a hearing be held on this item, all participants are
required to be sworn in. Recommendation to consider a Resolution of the
Board of Zoning Appeals of Collier County, Florida providing for the
establishment of a Conditional Use to allow a private school and a childcare
center within a Rural Agricultural zoning district pursuant to Subsections
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2.03.01 .A. l .c.10 and 2.03.01 .A. l .c.11., respectively, of the Collier County
Land Development Code for property located in Section 9, Township 48
South, Range 25 East, Collier County, Florida. (Petition # CU-
PL20120001074)
F. This item requires that ex parte disclosure be provided by Commission
members. Should a hearing be held on this item, all participants are
required to be sworn in. Recommendation to consider an Ordinance of the
Board of County Commissioners of Collier County, Florida amending
Ordinance No. 2004 -41, as amended, the Collier County Land Development
Code, which established the comprehensive zoning regulations for the
unincorporated area of Collier County, Florida by amending the appropriate
zoning atlas map or maps by changing the zoning property from the Planned
Unit Development zoning district known as the Veterans of Foreign Wars
PUD to the Estates (E) zoning district for property located at 7071 Hunters
Road in Section 6, Township 49 South, Range 26 East, Collier County,
Florida, consisting of 5 +1- acres; providing for repeal of Ordinance No. 75-
29, the Veterans of Foreign Wars PUD; and by providing an effective date.
[Petition RZ- PL20130000049]
G. Recommendation to consider an Ordinance amending Ordinance Number
2010 -28, the Meridian Village MPUD, to allow as permitted uses a youth
center and other uses comparable to the permitted uses in this PUD. The
property is located at the northwest corner of the intersection of Airport-
Pulling Road and Estey Avenue in Section 2, Township 50 South, Range 25
East, Collier County, Florida, consisting of 11.68 acres; and by providing an
effective date. (PUDA- PL20130000886)
H. This item continued from the June 11, 2013 BCC Meeting.
Recommendation to approve (1) an Ordinance repealing and replacing
Ordinance No. 98 -37, as amended; (2) a revised Irrigation Quality Water
Policy; (3) standardized Agreements for Delivery and Reuse of Irrigation
Quality Water for Major Users and for Basic Users; and, (4) a Resolution
authorizing the Chair of the Board of County Commissioners to execute
Board - approved Irrigation Quality Water Major User Agreements.
I. Recommendation to adopt a resolution approving amendments
(appropriating carry forward, transfers and supplemental revenue) to the
Fiscal Year 2012 -13 Adopted Budget.
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18. ADJOURN
INQUIRIES CONCERNING CHANGES TO THE BOARD'S AGENDA SHOULD
BE MADE TO THE COUNTY MANAGER'S OFFICE AT 252 -8383.
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June 25, 2013
MR. OCHS: Madam Chair, you have a live mike.
Ladies and gentlemen, please take your seats.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Good morning. I'd like to call the
meeting to order.
We'll begin with the invocation led by a rabbi from Temple
Shalom, and then I'd like to ask the county manager to lead us in the
pledge.
Item #1
INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
RABBI MILLER: Thank you, Commissioners, for inviting me
back to offer words of inspiration and invocation on this morning.
I would share with you this piece by an anonymous author
entitled "The Measure of a Man." Not how did he die, but how did he
live. Not what did he gain, but what did he give. These are the units
to measure the worth of a man as a man regardless of birth. Not what
was his shrine nor what was his creed, but had he befriended those
really in need. Not what did the sketch in the newspaper say, but
rather how many were sorry when he passed away.
I know that many here are sorry and have heavy hearts following
the recent and sudden passing of Tom Kuck, a long-time county
engineer. Native of Ohio, Tom spent 35 years here in Naples. His
work and his dedication earned him multiple Civil Engineer of the
Year awards, a testament to his desire to excel at his craft.
Survived by his devoted wife, Janet, of 54 years, Tom enjoyed
spending his time outdoors, hunting and fishing. A gentleman of the
highest order, Tom's honesty and genuine nature touched so many.
Friends, our goal in life is that we should not say that life was
good to us but rather that we were good to life. Tom was good to life
in so many ways. He was good to those who were fortunate enough to
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know him and those who benefited from his wonderful work here in
our community.
May Tom Kuck's memory be an inspiration and lesson for each
of us as we pray that our County Commissioners, all those who work
for Collier County, indeed all of those who live here, find the wisdom
and strength of spirit necessary for us to be good to life.
May we make the world a better place than the way that we
found it, and may it be said of each of us, as it is said of Tom, that the
world is better because we were a part of it.
Amen.
(The Pledge of Allegiance was recited in unison.)
MR. OCHS: Madam Chairman, if I may just depart from our
agenda for a moment and thank Rabbi Miller for those very thoughtful
and kind remarks. On behalf of a member of our county extended
family who we lost suddenly, Tom Kuck, on Father's Day, I would
simply like to, again, acknowledge on behalf of the county staff our
admiration for Tom and the contributions that he made to the Collier
County community over his many, many years of service, not only
serving county government and its residents, but all of the associations
and civic activities that he was engaged in during his career and his
life.
He was a great friend and a mentor to many of us here over the
time that he served this county with distinction, and we are proud and
grateful for his service and would like to ask everyone here to just
have one moment of silence in Tom's memory while we show some of
the photos from his life and work here at Collier County.
(Slide show presented.)
Thank you, Madam Chair.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you, Leo, Rabbi. Thank you
both for your very thoughtful and caring words about Tom. We will
miss him. And I know, speaking on behalf of the board, how much
we appreciate all he has done for the county and for the community as
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a whole, and he'll be sorely missed but long remembered.
MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you.
MR. OCHS: Madam Chair, if I may proceed with --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Yes. But before you proceed, Leo,
it's with great regret that I congratulate you on the win of the
Blackhawks over the Bruins.
MR. OCHS: Well, thank you, Madam Chair.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And for all of us who know that
Boston will always be better than Chicago, I will humble you today --
or humble myself with respect to you today and agree to wear this
Blackhawks baseball (sic) cap, but --
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Baseball?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: I'm sorry, baseball. I'm sorry. I'm
already into the next sport. I just want you to know, let me tell you,
when it comes to --
COMMISSIONER COYLE: There's basketball season.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: No, I don't like basketball. I love
baseball. Baseball, Boston's going to win. Okay. I'm just telling you
right now, Boston is going to win. But today I will wear this cap
except when it comes to important agenda items when I will take it
off. So just so the audience knows, I congratulate you.
MR. OCHS: Well, thank you, ma'am.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: I'm choking, but I'm congratulating
you.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: She's a good sport, right? I think
that's so cool.
MR. OCHS: The one correction was you said the Chicago
Blackhawks. It's actually 2013 Stanley-Cup-Winning Chicago
Blackhawks. Thank you very much.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: County Manager, you're out of
order. You're out of order. Silence. I can't take it anymore.
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Nick, are you okay?
MR. OCHS: Nick, ma'am, has a hat back there I think he should
put on as well, since he's a Boston fan.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Can I have the tissues?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: You can.
MR. OCHS: Come on, Nick.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Nick? Nick? Nick? Nick, we'll
share. We'll share.
MR. OCHS: Very nice.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And Flanagan, Flanagan, wherever
you are --
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Flanagan's incapacitated in the
backroom there somewhere.
MR. OCHS: Curled up in the fetal position.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: I know.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: All right. Go ahead.
MR. OCHS: All right. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Let me move along here and go through the proposed agenda
changes for the Board of County Commissioners' meeting of June 25,
2013.
The first proposed change is to add an Item 10J under Board of
County Commissioners. It's a recommendation for the board to
consider the chairwoman sending a letter to the regulatory agencies
responsible for the permitting and regulation of oil exploration and oil
extraction operations in Collier County. That is added to the agenda at
Commissioner Nance's request.
The next proposed change is to withdraw Item 16D4. It's a
recommendation to approve a budget amendment for the museum
operating fund. That is moved at staffs request, and we'll be bringing
that back to the board at the next meeting.
The next proposed change is to withdraw Item 16G1, and that
would be continued -- excuse me. That item was continued from the
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June 11th BCC meeting. It is withdrawn at the request of the airport
authority staff.
The next proposed change is to move Item 16K1 from the county
attorney consent agenda to become Item 12A under county attorney
regular agenda, and that is an item directing the county attorney to
advertise ordinances to merge the Environmental Advisory Council
and the Collier County Planning Commission.
We have one agenda note this morning Commissioners, Item
16G2. It's a temporary use agreement at the Marco Island airport.
There's an add-on phrase to the use agreement itself in Paragraph 5
that should read as follows: Hazardous materials -- and this is add-on
-- other than those that are incorporated in the test payloads as
identified in BAE Systems letter dated May 1, 2013, are strictly
prohibited, and that is added at the request of your airport authority
staff.
And, finally, you have three time-certain items on today's
agenda. The first item is at 11 a.m. having to do with a refunding of
water and sewer revenue bonds; at 11:30 a.m. you're scheduled to hear
the internal audit report from the Clerk of the Circuit Court regarding
the Freedom Park; and at 1:30 this afternoon you're scheduled to hear
Item 10G regarding the selection of a medical director and a deputy
medical director.
Those are all the changes that I have, Madam Chair.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you.
Any discussion on the changes being proposed?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Just the time-certains. I'm not
sure if we're going to really -- necessary for us to be here at 1:30, if --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Are you thinking of scheduling --
what would you like to do, Commissioner Henning?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Let's just --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: We have a lot of public speakers on
oil and gas, which might take some time, and I'm not sure if we'll be
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able to get everything done.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Okay. Well, we can just take an
extra lunch if we get done before noon. Come back at 1:30.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: You know, you're absolutely right,
you're absolutely right. We could do that.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: And I believe that the people that
are involved with the medical director have already been told. I
actually told a number of them that it was 1 o'clock; that's what I'd
heard yesterday. And now it says 1:30, but I think that they're lining
up people to come, so we're going to have to be here to hear them.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Yeah. 1:30 is the time for the
presentation on the selection of the medical director, for anyone who's
listening as we're setting the agenda, not 1 o'clock.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yeah, I don't know how -- that
changed from when Leo was in my office, I guess, so -- which is fine.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Leo, let's go ahead, unless
Commissioner Nance would like to talk to 10J that he added to the
agenda to make sure that everybody understands what your objective
is with respect to that.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Yes. I requested this add-on item
to make certain that we convey our request to the regulatory agency,
specifically the State of Florida Department of Environmental
Protection and the South Water Management District, and the
language I requested is that they review very carefully and judiciously
the comments and concerns of Collier County property owners and
affected citizens regarding the permitting of oil exploration and oil
well extraction operations in the vicinity of residential properties.
And, further, to request that they establish direct communication
protocol with Collier County regarding all safety environmental
monitoring, emergency response, and all public health and safety
issues that may arise should any permits for drilling and extraction be
issued in our county.
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So that will be under consideration for the board under 10J.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Any discussion on that?
(No response.)
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: There being no discussion, County
Manager, could you move to the approval of the agenda and minutes,
please.
Item #2A
APPROVAL OF TODAY'S CONSENT AGENDA AS AMENDED
(EX PARTE DISCLOSURE PROVIDED BY COMMISSION
MEMBERS FOR CONSENT AGENDA — APPROVED AND/OR
ADOPTED W/CHANGES
MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am. Item 2A is approval of today's consent
agenda as amended.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Madam Chair, I have no ex
parte communication. I'll make a motion to approve the consent.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you. Let me continue with
the ex parte.
Commissioner Nance?
COMMISSIONER NANCE: I have no ex parte, and I will
second Commissioner Henning's motion.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner Coyle?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: I have no ex parte on the consent
agenda, and I'm in favor of the motion.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner Fiala?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I have nothing to declare on the
consent agenda either.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you. I have nothing to
declare on consent.
There being no discussion, all in favor?
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COMMISSIONER COYLE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: (No verbal response.)
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Motion carries unanimously.
Item #2B
APPROVAL OF TODAY'S SUMMARY AGENDA AS AMENDED
(EX PARTE DISCLOSURE PROVIDED BY COMMISSION
MEMBERS FOR SUMMARY AGENDA — ADOPTED
MR. OCHS: 2B is approval of today's summary agenda as
amended.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Let's begin with ex parte.
Commissioner Henning?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Madam Chair, I have ex parte
communication on 17E and 17F, and those are the staff reports on
both those items.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: And I will make a motion to
approve the summary agenda as amended.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you.
Commissioner Nance?
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Yes. Likewise, I have read the
staff reports on 17E and 17F, and I will second Commissioner
Henning's motion.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner Coyle?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: My ex parte disclosure's also on
17E and 17F. I have read the staff reports applicable to two items.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner Fiala?
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COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes, I have the same, 17E and 17F.
I received those reports.
I have to go back just one minute and say on the consent agenda,
16A8, I'm sorry I didn't see this before. I did receive some emails on
that particular item, 16A8.
Okay. And as I said, I've received the staff reports on 17E and
17F.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And I have received the staff reports
on 17E and F. I also had meetings with the property owner with
respect to 17K and with Club Pelican Bay as it relates to 17H.
There being no further discussion, all in favor of the summary as
amended?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: (No verbal response.)
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Motion carries unanimously.
Item #2C
APPROVAL OF TODAY'S REGULAR AGENDA AS AMENDED
— APPROVED AND/OR ADOPTED W/CHANGES
MR. OCHS: 2C is approval of today's regular agenda as
amended.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Move to approve as amended.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Second.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Any discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: There being no discussion, all in
favor?
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COMMISSIONER COYLE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: (No verbal response.)
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Motion carries unanimously.
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Proposed Agenda Changes
Board of County Commissioners Meeting
June 25,2013
Add On Item 10J: Recommendation for the Board of County Commissioners to consider
authorizing the Chairwoman to send a letter to regulatory agencies responsible for the permitting
and regulation of Oil Exploration and Oilwell Extraction operations in Collier County.
(Commissioner Nance's request)
Withdraw Item 16D4: Recommendation to approve a budget amendment recognizing and
appropriating$128,900 of unbudgeted carryforward in the Museum operating fund. (Staff's
request)
Withdraw Item 16G1: This item continued from the June 11, 2013 BCC Meeting.
Recommendation to approve the attached Standard Form Lease Agreement between Southern
Illinois Custom Aerial,LLC and the Collier County Airport Authority for improved property at
the Immokalee Regional Airport. (Airport Authority staff request)
Move Item 16K1 to Item 12A: Recommendation to direct the County Attorney to advertise two
ordinances which would effectively merge the Environmental Advisory Council(EAC) into the
Collier County Planning Commission (CCPC). (Commissioner Nance and Commissioner Fiala's
separate requests)
Note:
Item 16G2 Temporary Commercial Aeronautical Use Agreement,third sentence of paragraph 5
should read: "Hazardous materials,other than those that are incorporated in the test payloads as
identified in BAE Systems letter dated Mav 1,2013,are strictly prohibited." (Airport Authority
staff request)
Time Certain Items:
Item 11B to be heard at 11:00 a.m.
Item 13A to be heard at 11:30 a.m.
Item 10G to be heard at 1:30 p.m.
6/25/2013 8:28 AM
June 25, 2013
Item #2D
MINUTES FROM MAY 28, 2013, REGULAR BCC MEETING —
APPROVED AS PRESENTED
MR. OCHS: 2D is approval of the regular meeting of the Board
of County Commissioners from May 28, 2013.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: So moved.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Second.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: All in favor?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: (No verbal response.)
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Motion carries unanimously.
Item #2E
MINUTES FROM JUNE 4, 2013, BCC/IMPACT FEES/ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE WORKSHOP — APPROVED AS
PRESENTED
MR. OCHS: 2E is approval of the workshop minutes of the June
4, 2013, BCC workshop regarding impact fees and economic
development incentives.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Any discussion?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Move to approve.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Second.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: All in favor?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
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CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: (No verbal response.)
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Motion carries unanimously.
MR. OCHS: Madam Chair, that takes us to service awards. We
have several service-award recipients to recognize this morning. If the
board would join us in the front of the dais, please.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Leo, with or without the
Blackhawks hat, please?
MR. OCHS: You better take it off for now.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Okay. I just -- I mean --
MR. OCHS: There may be a Bruins fan getting recognized, so
we don't want to embarrass them.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Yeah, that would be really cruel.
Item #3A
EMPLOYEE SERVICE AWARDS — 20 YEAR ATTENDEES
MR. OCHS: Commissioners, we're pleased to acknowledge
three employees this morning celebrating 20 years of service with
county government.
Our first 20-year service awardee from your water department is
Barry Erickson. Is Barry here?
(Applause.)
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Congratulations.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Thanks for all your service.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Congratulations.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Thank you for your service.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Thank you, sir.
MR. OCHS: Get a photo.
Very good.
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(Applause.)
MR. OCHS: Thanks, Barry.
Celebrating 20 years of service with road maintenance, Michael
Patten.
(Applause.)
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Congratulations. Thank you for all
your service.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Nice to see you.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Thanks for your service.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Thanks for your service, Mike.
(Applause.)
MR. OCHS: Celebrating 20 years of service with our library
department, Susan Peck.
(Applause.)
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Congratulations. Thank you for
your service.
MS. PECK: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Thank you.
MS. PECK: Thanks.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Which library?
MS. PECK: Central Avenue.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: That's great. That's a busy little
place.
MS. PECK: It is.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: They all are.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Congratulations.
(Applause.)
Item #3B
EMPLOYEE SERVICE AWARDS — 25 YEAR ATTENDEES
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MR. OCHS: Commissioners, we're proud to recognize three
employees this morning celebrating 25 years of service with county
government.
Your first recipient, from EMS, is Dave Becker. Dave?
(Applause.)
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you for all you've done for
the county.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Thanks.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Dave, congratulations.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Thank you, sir.
(Applause.)
MR. OCHS: Celebrating 25 years with our road maintenance
department is Franklin Chain.
(Applause.)
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Congratulations. Do you support
the Blackhawks or the Bruins?
MR. CHAIN: Neither.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: That's the most diplomatic answer.
Congratulations. Thanks for all you've done for the county.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Thank you, sir.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Congratulations.
(Applause.)
MR. OCHS: Congratulations. Well done.
Our final 25-year service awardee this morning, from our fleet
management department, is Lynn Evans. Lynn?
(Applause.)
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Congratulations.
MR. OCHS: Congratulations. Thank you.
(Applause.)
MR. OCHS: Commissioners, that concludes our service awards
this morning. Thank you.
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Item #4
PROCLAMATIONS (ONE MOTION TAKEN TO ADOPT ALL
PROCLAMATIONS)
Item #4A
PROCLAMATION DESIGNATING JULY 2013 AS BLADDER
CANCER AWARENESS MONTH IN COLLIER COUNTY.
ACCEPTED BY CARLA L. DEAN, PRESIDENT AND JAMES T.
DEAN, JR., TREASURER, BLADDER CANCER FOUNDATION
OF FLORIDA, INC. — ADOPTED
MR. OCHS: Madam Chair, that takes us to Item 4 this morning,
proclamations. Item 4A is a proclamation designating July 2013 as
Bladder Cancer Awareness Month in Collier County. To be accepted
by Carla Dean, president, and James Dean, Jr., treasurer, the Bladder
Cancer Foundation of Florida, Incorporated.
And this proclamation is sponsored by Commissioner Coyle.
If you'd please step forward and receive your proclamation.
(Applause.)
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you. Thank you for all
you're doing.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: It's good you've brought this
awareness to our community. Thank you.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Congratulations. Thank you.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Picture first, though. You want Jim
here, too.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Yeah. Jim, why don't you come on
up. No?
MS. DEAN: He's shy.
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Thank you.
Madam Chairman, Mr. Vice Chairman, and Commissioners,
you're in very good company this morning with this proclamation
because Florida, for the second year in a row, has declared Bladder
Cancer Awareness Month for July 2013. We're the only state in the
United States to have done so.
As the proclamation says, our statistics are quite staggering.
Bladder cancer is the fifth most common cancer in the United States
and the third most common in the State of Florida, so it's most
important for this awareness.
I thank you on behalf of Bladder Cancer Foundation of Florida,
the over half million United States citizens who are suffering with
bladder cancer as of this moment, the over 73,000 people who will be
diagnosed in 2013, and the 14,000 Americans who will die from
bladder cancer this year.
Especially important is the staggering 50 to 80 percent recurrence
rate. This makes it one of the most expensive cancers to treat and
maintain. My husband's supplies alone quarterly are almost $3,000,
but we're glad he needs to use them because he's still alive.
At this point in time, our vice president of our nonprofit
organization, who was diagnosed approximately two years ago,
followed all of the proper protocols, had clean bills of health every
three months, within a three-month period of time, from April until
recently, he developed a 2.5-centimeter bladder cancer tumor that was
muscle invasive.
Within the next month, Ed will have a partial removal of his
urinary bladder in the hopes -- pardon me. I lost my words.
Electronic age is good, but -- he will have a partial cystectomy or
removal of his urinary bladder in the hopes of maintaining and
keeping the cancer at bay. Believe it or not, he is among only the 5
percent who qualify for this type of surgery. Normally it's the entire
bladder is removed.
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What causes bladder cancer? We know that smoking does,
combined with certain chemicals; firefighters are at a higher risk due
to their chemical exposures; hair dressers, due to their exposure to the
chemicals they use, mostly hair coloring; and we're finding more and
more Vietnam veterans who have been exposed to herbicides, the
Asian Orange umbrella that is numerous chemicals, not just Asian
Orange.
Some patients who get bladder cancer have never had any
exposure risk, so there's the rub.
Interestingly, even with its economic and emotional tolls, bladder
cancer is only 22nd in research dollars allotted. We can do better than
this. We have to do better than this.
It is only through bladder cancer awareness through
proclamations such as this that patients will become aware that they
need to be proactive and encourage their doctors if they have
nonspecific bladder symptoms. People are often treated for a year,
two, and I know of a lady who was treated for three years and, lo and
behold, it wasn't a urinary tract infection. It was bladder cancer. She
lost her bladder.
So if you have urinary tract bleeding, vague symptoms, pain on
urination, or trying to urinate without results, encourage your doctor to
pursue further testing. It may well not be bladder cancer but, then
again, it might just be. So, again, we thank you.
On another note, I'd like to recognize my husband, Jim Dean,
who is a stage-four bladder cancer survivor here in the audience. So
we're very glad.
(Applause.)
MS. DEAN: Thank you again.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you.
Item #4B
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PROCLAMATION DESIGNATING JULY 1, 2013 AS DIANE
FLAGG DAY IN COLLIER COUNTY IN RECOGNITION OF HER
RETIREMENT FROM COLLIER COUNTY GOVERNMENT
AFTER 32 YEARS OF SERVICE. ACCEPTED BY DIANE
FLAGG, DIRECTOR, CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT —
ADOPTED
MR. OCHS: Commissioners, Item 4B is a proclamation
designating July 1, 2013, as Diane Flagg Day in Collier County in
recognition of her retirement from Collier County Government after
32 years of service.
To be accepted by Diane Flagg, director of the code enforcement
department. This item is sponsored by both Commissioner Fiala and
Commissioner Henning.
Diane, please step forward.
(Applause.)
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Are we able to say a few words
about Diane? Because you're not going to say it.
MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I would just like to say that Diane
has been instrumental in helping us -- she and her whole team. She
didn't do it by herself. She did it with all of you working with her to
improve the appearances of our neighborhoods, to reduce crime in
many of the neighborhoods. She's also established the Foreclosure
Task Force, which encouraged banks to come in on houses that have
been abandoned and clean them up. Rather than the taxpayers paying
for it, the banks did, and that was her idea, which, by the way, then
she's been asked to speak about in other counties around the State of
Florida and further out.
And I just want to say she has been a miraculous, hard-working
individual that I truly am proud to know. Thank you.
MS. FLAGG: Thank you.
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MR. KRASOWSKI: Superwoman.
MS. FLAGG: Commissioners, I just wanted to thank you for this
proclamation and, actually, I see all the departments that I had the
opportunity to work with, with alternative transportation modes, the
landscape team, and then also EMS.
So thank you very, very much for the many opportunities that
you gave me in my career with Collier County. Thank you.
(Applause.)
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Madam Chair, may I make a
friendly amendment to today's proclamations, that the board sponsors
-- all the board members sponsor the proclamations today, particularly
the second one.
Diane Flagg is truly a public servant that has made changes in
Collier County that will affect people in a positive way from now on,
including Land Development Code amendments protocol and EMS.
Outstanding job.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Would you like to make a motion to
approve as amended?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Motion to approve as amended.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Second.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Any discussion?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yeah. I just want to say, thank you,
Commissioner Henning. That was a great idea, and I certainly support
that.
MR. OCHS: Yes, sir. Thank you, Commissioner. Diane asked if
it wouldn't be a big inconvenience if she could have one more photo.
She's got her family here and all of the folks that she's worked with
over the years. If they could have one photo with the board in front of
the dais.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Absolutely, yeah.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Absolutely.
MR. OCHS: Come on forward, Diane.
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CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Can we go ahead and vote on this
first since we're in the middle of a vote?
MR. OCHS: Thank you, ma'am.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: There being no further discussion,
all in favor?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: (No verbal response.)
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Motion carries unanimously.
MR. OCHS: Thank you. Come on up.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: It's going to be the whole audience.
(Applause.)
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: We're going to just take a minute to
allow the room to clear.
Leo, I have a question before we move on to the next agenda
item. Did we ever recognize the contribution to the community that
Marla Ramsey made and Stan Chrzanowski made?
MR. OCHS: Not individually, ma'am.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: I would like us to do that. You
know, we've had a number of long-standing major contributors of our
staff. So at the next board meeting, I'd like you to add three
proclamations, as we did for Diane, recognizing the contributions of
Tom Kuck, Stan Chrzanowski, and Marla Ramsey.
And I'd like to ask that all of them be invited to accept. And if
they're not able to attend, I think that we should still proceed with the
presentation. I think it's very important that employees that have
worked for the county for a long time be publicly recognized for their
contributions.
MR. OCHS: Commissioners, would you --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you.
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MR. OCHS: I'd be happy to do that.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you. I would appreciate that.
And just like we did for Diane, I really think that that ought to come
as a proclamation from the entire board. Thank you.
MR. OCHS: Okay.
Item #7
PUBLIC COMMENTS ON GENERAL TOPICS
MR. OCHS: Commissioners, there are no presentations or public
petitions this morning, so that takes us to Item 7 on your agenda,
public comments on general topics.
MR. MILLER: Madam Chairwoman, yeah, we have 21
registered public speakers for public comment. Now, 18 of those seem
to be for oil. I have had additional speakers register for oil under Item
10J as well.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: What we don't want to have is a
repetition of the same comments. So if anyone who is commenting
would like to limit their comments to one item or the other, like
consolidate, we would appreciate that.
MR. MILLER: Yeah. No, these are separate names.
Oh, they're completely separate?
MR. MILLER: They have not registered for both. As 10J was
added to the agenda, I think some people that were registering later on
registered for 10J rather than public.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: As opposed to public comment?
MR. MILLER: Yes.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Okay, that's fine.
What I'd like to do is begin with the public speakers who are not
addressing oil and gas, and then prior to the public speakers speaking
to oil and gas, I would ask the county attorney if he would kindly state
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on the record what the law provides, what the county's duties and
responsibilities are with respect to this issue before the speakers begin
their presentation.
And what I would ask the speakers is if you could not repeat the
same thing a previous speaker said. You know, once it's on the
record, you can say that you endorse what the previous speaker stated
as opposed to repeating it, you know, over and over again, because it
doesn't really add any more value. Once the statement is made, it's
understood and accepted by the board. So we would really appreciate
that.
And for those of you who don't know, you have three minutes
with respect to public comment.
Would you like to go ahead and begin with the non-oil and gas
speakers?
MR. MILLER: Sure. Certainly, Madam Chairwoman. Your
first public speaker is Meg Stepanian. She will be followed by Bob
Krasowski.
MS. STEPANIAN: Good morning, Chairwoman Hiller and
fellow commissioners.
I sort of missed the moment here a little bit, but I'm grateful for
this opportunity, and I would like to extend my thanks to the entire
board for its acknowledgment of the career achievements of Ms.
Diane Flagg and for giving members of our community the
opportunity through this proclamation to thank her for her
extraordinary service and commitment that she has imparted to Collier
County.
Ms. Flagg's tenure has been diverse, and remarkable. For more
than three decades, though, the one constant has been her unwavering,
professional, personal, perseverance in support of the well-being of
our community. Whether it was through her service in EMS,
transportation, code enforcement or, thankfully, the continuing chair
of the Collier County Economic Recovery Task Force, she has
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promoted the interests of and expanded the growth for our county.
As a businesswoman and member of this community, I wish to
extend my personal thanks to Diane Flagg for her unconditional
devotion, commitment, and stewardship. July 1 will forever remain a
special date.
Thank you.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you.
(Applause.)
MR. MILLER: Your next public speaker is Bob Krasowski.
He'll be followed by Michael Schumann.
MR. KRASOWSKI: Good morning, Commissioners. For the
record, Bob Krasowski. I'll be speaking later about the oil thing.
I sympathize with the people there, but they're here to represent
themselves, and I don't think they need me to tell them what to say.
I've heard them at the public meetings Commissioner Nance and they
themselves had.
But I'm here -- I was hoping, as I had requested, that the beach
renourishment issue would be on the agenda today.
You've received a response to your request for proposals, a bid of
$32 million, and only one bid. Though you have followed the advice
of a few proponents of what is -- was proposed as a 10-year plan, a
grand scheme of putting a whole lot of sand on the beach in a big
period -- large period of time -- and I admit, hindsight is 20/20, but
your -- people like your Coastal Advisory Council headed by Mayor
Sorey, the Tourist Development Council, and the people there, and
also your Coastal Zone Management director, Gary McAlpin,
although he -- you know, he does claim everything he's done has been
under the umbrella of the board's approval moving along.
So -- let's see. Okay. So -- but this strategy, the 10-year plan and
all the elements that go with it, were agreed to and encouraged by a
letter from the Great Lakes Dock and Dredge that is dated November
1, 2011, and it was in one of your previous -- last year's agendas, and
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it asks for four things. It asks for -- it suggests that this county could
improve their situation by coordinating projects with people further
north, work within turtle nesting season, and to partner up with them
and give them a flexible schedule so they could come and go. This is
supposed to help.
Well, this letter was written by the vice president but also CC'ed
to Sam Morrison of Great Lakes Dock and Dredge, and those are the
same people that you're now trying to renegotiate with the $32 million
bid with, and I think if you change this plan enough, you should go
out to bid again, because it's not the same plan, and when are we going
to stop listening to the advice of these people who do not have within
their scope of knowledge or information -- not bad people, but very
limited restricted views -- and start looking at alternative methods,
alternative ideas, and trying to work out the situation?
We're in dire straits. We don't -- we've followed this path, and all
we have is a $32 million plan to renourish the diminished amounts that
you so wisely carved out.
So that's pretty much my comments. Okay. Thank you very
much.
MR. MILLER: Your next public speaker is Michael Schumann.
He'll be followed by your first speaker on oil, Stephen Davis.
MR. SCHUMANN: Madam Chair and members of the board, I'd
like to talk to you briefly about your policy restricting the people
serving on your advisory boards to being legal residents and/or voters
of Collier County.
Collier County is unique in the country in how many people we
have here from around the country who have a lot of talent who aren't
necessarily legal residents or voters in the county.
And your current policy, as outlined in Ordinance 2001-55,
which restricts these boards to legal residents, really prevents those
people from basically providing their expertise to give you advice.
And I question why that is necessary, and I would like to
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encourage you to, basically, amend the ordinance in such a manner
that you can at least have the flexibility to consider nonresidents or
nonvoters to be appointed to your various boards. Thank you.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you.
County Attorney, would you like to comment why that rule is in
effect?
MR. KLATZKOW: It's just board policy, ma'am.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you.
MR. MILLER: Chairwoman, your next public speaker is
Stephen Davis. He'll be followed by Noelia Rodriguez.
MR. DAVIS: Madam Chair, thank you for the opportunity to
speak. I'm actually not here to talk about oil and gas. I have to
apologize. This is what happens when you put a scientist in charge of
coming in and giving comments to the county commission this
morning.
Our chair, Eric Eikenberg, wishes he could be here to give
comment this morning on the important matter of Everglades
restoration and the Water Resources Development Act that's moving
through Congress right now.
We are the Everglades Foundation. We're an environmental
organization focused solely on restoring/protecting the Everglades
ecosystem that stretches from the Kissimmee River, through Lake
Okeechobee, the Caloosahatchee and Saint Lucie estuaries, all the
way south into this area that you're all quite familiar with.
We have a number of projects that are currently underway.
Picayune Strand in your backyard right here, we're seeing big benefits
of Picayune Strand restoration. This is one of the many
comprehensive Everglades restoration projects that's underway.
As that project progresses, we see not only environmental
benefits, we see economic benefits. We commissioned a study a few
years back that was cited by the president, the governor, that for every
dollar you invest in Everglades restoration, we know we get a
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minimum four in return associated with things like water supply,
hunting, fishing, recreational opportunities. Property values are tied to
the health of our natural ecosystems.
And I raise this today because we have a number of projects that
are currently on the shelf, chiefs reports and project implementation
reports that are going to be chiefs reports very soon that we would
like to have included in this upcoming Water Resource Development
Act. And I just bring this to your attention today because these are
things that are moving forward very quickly.
If you're unaware, I've brought some information booklets with
descriptions on a number of these projects. I encourage you to contact
us. Miami-Dade County, Broward County, Palm Beach County have
all passed resolutions in support of these projects, like the Central
Everglades Planning Project, the C43 Reservoir, which provides an
important water supply/water quality benefit to the Caloosahatchee
estuary, and these, we hope, will all be included as part of that Water
Resource Development Project that we know is not at the same
interval that it used to be.
We've gone from every couple of years. Now we're at
seven-year intervals. So if we don't get these projects approved today,
this year as part of this process, that we could wait another seven to 10
or even more years before we can really move restoration forward and
improve our economy.
Thank you.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you. Would you kindly give
copies of the resolutions passed by the other counties to the county
attorney for his review, and we can decide whether or not we would
like to propose something.
MR. DAVIS: I apologize for not having copies of those with me
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Please email them to him.
MR. DAVIS: -- today, but I can make those copies available,
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absolutely.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And, Jeff, would you give him your
card. Thank you.
MR. MILLER: Your next public speaker is Noelia Rodriguez.
She'll be followed by Covi Lopez.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Since we have so many speakers, if
you could all line up at the two podiums, and rather than read their
names individually, let them just come forward, state their name for
the record and, you know, where they're from, and that will expedite
the process so that we don't, you know, wait for people to walk up and
down.
MR. MILLER: So if you're registered to speak on oil, line up at
the podium.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Just go ahead and line up at the
podium, if you would, and then as you speak, just state your name and
where you're from for the record, and then proceed, and we'll make
sure that the timer starts when you reach the -- you know, the podium.
MR. MILLER: Ms. Rodriguez?
MS. RODRIGUEZ: Yes. My name is Noelia Rodriguez. My
family and I have lived in residential eastern Golden Gate Estates off
DeSoto Boulevard for nearly 20 years. We moved there for peace and
quiet, for the sound of the wind through the pines, for organic
gardening, and for the wildlife.
We live very close to agricultural land which the Collier County
Land Development Code describes, quote, the purpose and intent of
the rural agricultural district is to provide lands for agricultural,
pastural, and rural land uses and conservation uses, uses compatible to
agricultural uses that would not endanger or damage the agricultural,
environmental, potable water, or wildlife resources of the county, end
of quote.
But a little further in that idyllic description the code says that oil
and gas drilling development and production are allowed.
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Oil drilling and production are decidedly not agricultural
activities. They endanger and damage conservation uses, they
endanger and damage environmental, potable water, and wildlife
resources of the county.
And for residents off DeSoto Boulevard, the proposed oil drilling
is an act of terror, for it terrorizes the lives of all of us common
people. It would plummet the value of our homes. It would transform
our neighborhood into an industrial zone with industrial trucking on a
two-lane country road, industrial noise in a peaceful setting, industrial
air pollution, and industrial chemicals threatening the clean water of
residents of Golden Gate Estates and Naples urbanites alike.
Our elected officials need to take a moral and ethical stand for
the common people, not just for powerful interests.
The Board of County Commissioners must express its support for
county residents and must stop the proposed destruction of our Golden
Gate Estates neighborhood.
Thank you.
(Applause.)
DR. KAREN DWYER: Dr. Karen Dwyer. I've lived in Naples
over 50 years.
We need to draw the line. No backyard drilling. It's absolutely
unconscionable. If it's legal, it shouldn't be.
You need to protect public safety and limit backyard oil drilling
in your Growth Management Plan.
The drill site is only a thousand feet from family homes. This is
the first time an oil well in Collier will be drilled so close to homes
and so deep, 3 miles, penetrating freshwater aquifers in the hydrogen
sulfide zone.
Hydrogen sulfide is a deadly gas. It poses such a threat that the
35-page Emergency Contingency Plan calls for gas masks, oxygen
resuscitators, and the evacuation of residents. If flaring is
uncontrollable, the plan calls for evacuating the rig and igniting it.
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Only one page addresses public safety, and it is incomplete. It
reads, quote, the procedure for notifying residents of a life-threatening
event will be arranged with public officials prior to drilling into the
hydrogen sulfide formations.
The problem, no one should have to live in an emergency
evacuation zone only feet away from a hazardous drill site and
145-foot oil rig.
The solution. Hughes Oil has leased over 110,000 acres in
Florida. Relocate the drill site or provide a buffer zone. The buffer
zone for offshore drilling is 30 miles. What should it be for on-shore
drilling? Please legislate a buffer zone.
Fires, both oil and hydrogen sulfide, are highly explosive. We
have no fire hydrants and must rely on helicopters with buckets to put
out fires. An oil well will be even more difficult to extinguish,
requiring special chemicals.
We're asking for a fire station closer to the drill site, that fire
station you've been asking for for years, Commissioner Nance.
Barron Collier could donate the 5-acre plot.
School children? DeSoto Boulevard is a two-lane country road
with no sidewalks or bike paths where, six times a day, children wait
for school buses.
An estimated 70 trucks will use that road to haul in rigs, pipes,
tanks, generators, fuel, trailers, cement, et cetera. We don't want a
convoy of trucks placing our children at risk. Escort service for
extra-wide rigs is not enough.
We're asking for alternative farm-road access to the drill site. It
was done in the past for that agricultural field, and it can be done
again.
To sum up, we want a buffer zone, fire station, and alternative
farm-road access. These are concessions designed to put public safety
first. Don't let Hughes and Collier drill our backyards without local
ordinances in your Growth Management Plan. The hazards are too
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great. Golden Gate pays taxes, too. It shouldn't be a sacrifice zone.
Thank you.
(Applause.)
MS. DAVENPORT: Hi. Bobbie Lee Davenport is my name,
and I am a stakeholder here. I have acreage off of DeSoto Boulevard.
I have a home in Golden Gate Estates. And I'm here today not only
representing myself, but I'm representing the Responsible Growth
Management Coalition and the Environmental Confederation of
Southwest Florida. Combined, we have thousands of members locally.
There's no good reason to have the oil well out there. There's a
lot of really bad reasons, as you've heard and will hear. One reason is,
of course, it's endangered species habitat. There is an Endangered
Species Act, and a lot of the things that have to do with that have not
been complied with concerning this site.
Contamination of the aquifer is something -- it's a risk that we
can't take because that aquifer supplies freshwater to thousands of
people.
And if they do fracking, which they haven't said they will do or
they won't do -- they will not give a straight answer. I've been at
every single meeting. We've brought up fracking. They will not give
an answer as to whether or not they will do fracking. That will
contaminate the aquifer. There's all kinds of research on it.
Drawdown of freshwater -- should fracking occur, there's a huge
drawdown of freshwater as well, which will also affect wells. Wells
could be going dry in the area.
Safety issues concerning one road in and one road out in an
evacuation. There's an emergency response time of 15 minutes, 15
minutes. If there's an accident and toxic chemicals are released into
the air and you've got hundreds of people out there, families and
children, and the response time to even get there is 15 minutes? I
don't think that's adequate. I don't think it's doable.
Also with the drilling, the drilling's going to be done horizontally.
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The oil company's already told us that several times. Horizontal
drilling is the type of drilling associated with fracking. Fracking has
been banned -- and this is according to an NBC News report -- in
France, Germany, South Africa, Argentina, Spain, Switzerland,
Australia, Italy, Ireland, and the UK.
Fracking has also been banned in New York, California, New
Mexico, New Jersey, and Vermont, for good reason.
Cattle farmers in fracking areas have reported the tails falling off
of their livestock, broken bones, premature births, and the livestock
just quietly falling ill and dying. That's because the groundwater, the
air, and the soil have been polluted due to fracking. And now they
want to bring this in a thousand feet from homes over an aquifer that
supplies thousands of people? You have to say no to this.
You have the power as the county commissioner to say we don't
want this in our county. DEP, deny this permit. This is very bad for
our residents.
The oil company, again, as I said, they won't answer -- give a
straight answer to the fracking issue. There's chemicals in the permit,
a long list of chemicals, that can be used in fracking.
So we want to protect the aquifer. Please deny the permit.
You're the elected officials, and I think you have every right to ask
that this be stopped. Thank you.
(Applause.)
DR. JOHN DWYER: Dr. John Dwyer. Thank you, Mr. Nance
and Ms. Hiller, for the agenda addition.
Just a note about Tom Kuck. He certainly blessed our lives, and
we are grateful.
What is Naples to gain by permitting a Texas oil company to drill
on land near DeSoto Boulevard and the panther refuge? Nothing.
Nothing.
Drilling only profits the corporations, not the people or the
wildlife or the wetlands. As one of the richest cities in the nation,
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Naples doesn't need big oil and gas, and Naples doesn't want them.
The hazards are too great.
Think of our environment, the Everglades, Fakahatchee Strand,
Rookery Bay, Corkscrew Swamp, the Gulf of Mexico, as well as our
clean air and water.
Do we really want to live downwind from an oil field? Do we
want Golden Gate canals to carry carcinogens through Doctors Pass
and into the Gulf?
This is the first time in Collier that an oil well will be drilled
horizontally so deep, 3 miles, into the lower Sunniland Trend
penetrating several freshwater aquifers. Residents worry that their
drinking water will become contaminated. They're not alone.
Andrew McElwaine, president and CEO of the Conservancy of
Southwest Florida, has just spoken to that.
It's our reserve drinking water. We don't want it to become an
industrial cesspool. We're asking for baseline water tests of surface
wells.
Oil drilling takes place in the Sunniland Trend, 150-mile-long
swath of land that runs from Fort Myers to Miami, and the trend
passes through Big Cypress National Preserve, which provides 42
percent of the water flowing into the Everglades National Park.
The preserve is also the recharge area for aquifers supplying
Floridians and the farming industry with potable water. Why risk
contaminating South Florida with its national parks?
Congress authorized the 30-year Everglades Restoration Plan.
Why allow oil drilling to endanger that $10 billion Everglades
investment dedicated solely to restoring the South Florida ecosystem?
Why risk contaminating freshwater? It's more valuable than oil.
The Conservancy affirms that the Golden Gate drill site takes a
fairly large amount of primary panther habitat and, for the foreseeable
future, drives them out of it. We don't want to lose Florida panther to
big oil.
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Don't buy the lie. Oil drilling is not safe. It's not clean energy.
Accidents do happen.
Remember the Deepwater Horizon well and what it's done to our
Gulf of Mexico. We don't need private profits at public costs. Call
for a moratorium on proposed oil drilling until you can draw up
ordinances to protect our families and the environment in Southwest
Florida.
Our Growth Management Plan should demonstrate that people
and panthers are far more important than petroleum and profits.
Thank you.
(Applause.)
MS. CARROLL: Hi. I'm Jane Carroll. I live in North Naples. I
moved here last September. And I have a beautiful home in North
Naples, and I'm very happy to be here. Every day is another day in
paradise.
Until I heard about the oil drilling, and that concerned me a great
deal. And I have to tell you that if I had known there was oil drilling
going to happen in Naples, I would not have come here. I would have
thought twice. I would have gone somewhere else, because I know --
I mean, we all read about oil drilling, and we all know accidents
happen all the time, and a lot of these accidents are just covered up,
and there's no recovery for the cleanup. I mean, they're still cleaning
up in Alaska.
Well, frankly, I'm here to also talk about child safety on DeSoto
Road, and Karen already mentioned that. But I want to add, too, that
we all care about our children more than we care about ourselves. The
safety of our children every single day is our priority as parents.
And that bus stop -- those bus stops on DeSoto Road on this very,
very narrow road -- I don't know if you've been up there, but it's
incredible. It's just -- there's no shoulder. And I don't know how these
children and their mothers -- because mothers wait with their children
to protect them. I don't know how the mothers are going to protect
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them or protect themselves while these huge rigs, industrial rigs, 40
tons or 80,000 pounds -- 80,000 pounds are going to go barreling
down DeSoto Boulevard. It's unbelievable.
Then they had the trucks that are likely cement trucks or heavy
equipment trucks that will also be going down there. As Karen
mentioned, four times a day, six times a day, school buses going down
DeSoto Boulevard. Someone needs to prepare for their safety, and I
think that should be all of you, all of us, but someone needs to do that,
and soon. Isn't that your job?
I know the offspring of Barron Gift Collier won't be there. They
will be home counting their money as they dump poison into injection
wells that inevitably will leak one day into the aquifers of Southwest
Florida.
So who is protecting the citizens and residents here? Have we
citizens lost all our representations to the billionaires and the
corporations? Why are these companies being allowed to poison our
paradise and endanger our children?
Just remember, Commissioners, that what happens to one of us
can happen to any one of us.
Lastly, in speaking about DeSoto Boulevard, I have another
question. Who is going to pay for the DeSoto Boulevard after they --
Collier and Hughes destroys the road's pavement that can't possibly --
a pavement that cannot possibly handle all this -- I have another three
minutes from another person.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Who is that?
MS. CARROLL: Lario.
MR. MILLER: Yes. She has -- I'll have to find it. They're out
of order. But, yes, Ricio Lario has --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Is she here?
MS. CARROLL: Yes, she's over there --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Is she there?
MS. CARROLL: -- in the green.
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CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Oh, that's fine. As long as she's
present.
MS. CARROLL: Yes. So I'm asking, who is going to pay to
repair DeSoto Boulevard after Collier and Hughes destroy the road's
pavement? And that will happen under the traffic of 80,000-pound
trucks.
We haven't heard about who's going to work on those roads or
who's going to pay for it. This is minimally paved currently.
So, I'm wondering, is the taxpayer going to get stuck with this
tab? Are we, after Collier moves out and gets all the oil he wants, she
wants, they want, are we going to pay the taxes to repair this road? Is
that the plan? And I think you should tell us what the plan is.
By the way, I should tell you that the gift, the word "gift" from
Barron Gift Collier, in German means poison. How ironic that this is,
ultimately, the legacy of Barron Gift Collier to Southwest Floridians,
leaving us with poison.
Now, Commissioners, what will your legacy be? There are
actions that you can take as commissioners. You know what they are,
and we citizens would like you to do everything in your power to stop
this drilling and to protect us and all our homes, not just my home in
North Naples.
Thank you very much.
(Applause.)
MS. KNAPP: Hi. My name is Donna Knapp. I live in North
Naples, and I run a small vacation business there.
And my business really suffered when we had the deep horizon.
They call it a spill. To me it's a disaster, because our water is still
suffering.
They have these beautiful ads and commercials of the shrimpers
holding lovely shrimp and everything looks perfect, but that's not the
case. I used to be a shrimper, and I know what's down there, and I
know the gullies that are on the sea bottom.
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My son works in the water every day. He has rashes on his legs.
So there's -- the contaminants aren't just in the north of the Gulf of
Mexico. They've come down with the gulf stream. And so we don't
eat anything in the water anymore.
So to think that we could be sandwiched between the pollution
that's one side of us and the Gulf of Mexico that's the other side of us
is just awful.
And all of my guests that come to my guest cottage, they come
because they're nature lovers. They come because they want to go into
the waters. They want to go into the Everglades and experience that.
They don't want to see oil wells.
And, you know, we had a very nice presentation from the Dan
Hughes Oil Company last week but, I mean, please don't be fooled by
that, because oil wells and pipes do leak. They leak all the time.
Three leaked last March of this year. One was in Mayflower in
Arkansas where 27 homes had to be evacuated because oil was
literally pouring down their streets.
The oil -- it was then said by the oil company, oh, we've cleaned
everything. Well, they hadn't. They pushed it into the waterways and
into people's drinking water.
And just last June there was a leak of over 2 million gallons in
Alberta from a Texas-based oil company, Apache Oil Company.
They didn't even tell the residents for two weeks that oil had leaked
out into their hunting grounds. So, you know, these -- and this was a
pipeline that was built to last for 30 years. They covered up how old it
was, but the truth came to light, and it was only five years old, this
pipeline.
So they do leak. They constantly leak, but it's covered up. The
oil companies pay off the media and the government, and everything's
covered up, and the general public don't usually hear about things like
that.
So this isn't an oil state. This is a -- this is a state for tourism.
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They say people come here to lay on our beaches and to play in our
beautiful pristine waters.
And I just want you to do whatever you can to stop this from
happening, because we can't drink oil. We can't drink oil. And it's a
known fact where fracking is big in this country, the breast cancer
rates are higher. And we already were talking about how we're
famous here for our work on bladder cancer and, you know, it just
makes no sense to put ourselves in danger and pollute our water,
pollute our aquifers.
Once that water is gone, it's gone. Once they inject the chemicals
into it, and they will, that water's gone forever. There's only 3 percent
of drinkable water on the whole planet. Once it's poisoned, it's gone
forever. There's no bringing it back again, and so we can't drink oil.
So please, please do what you can. This is what you're here for.
Thank you very much for the opportunity to speak.
MR. MENDEZ: Hello, guys. My name is Josiah Mendez. I'm a
resident here in Naples, Florida, and today I'm going to give you guys
some numbers.
A midsize oil-producing well produces about 200 barrels a day.
Now, at the ordinary rate of 8 percent, the current price of gas or oil
would be $90 a barrel. So each barrel will be taxed by the State of
Florida for $7.20 per barrel.
Now, with this, Florida will generate $526,600 per year, but
Collier County only gets 12.5 percent of that. So Collier will be
receiving $65,700 per year for the tax on the barrels of oil.
Now, if we're using the all tertiary rate, this would calculate to
only $211,700 per year for the State of Florida, and $26,462 a year for
the county of Collier.
Now, if you guys have never been to DeSoto Boulevard, DeSoto
Boulevard is a very narrow country two-lane road that isn't really
designed to withstand 80,000-pound oil-tanker trucks that weigh
approximately 40 tons, and the trucks are basically going to
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completely destroy DeSoto Boulevard.
Now, according to the Florida Department of Transportation,
they estimate the minimum cost to rebuild the road is, at one mile, $1
million.
DeSoto Boulevard is 10 miles long. This will cost us, if they
destroy the entire road of DeSoto Boulevard, $10 million. To put that
in perspective, with just using the tax incentives, or the taxes that
we're getting from the oil-producing well, we will take 152, it's a
regular ordinary rate, to 377, which is the all tertiary rate, years to just
get our money back, and that's assuming we're even alive by then, and
that's assuming the oil rig is even still operating after even a decade.
So as united citizens of the United States of united creeds of the
united oaths of the united pleasures and united pains of these United
States of America, we have a right, and we will fight all forms of
tyranny, both foreign and domestic, to preserve our right for life,
liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Thank you very much.
(Applause.)
MS. DURAN: Hello. I'm Pamela Duran. I live on 24th Avenue
Southeast. My husband and I live on House No. 1.
We're not asking you to stop the permit for the oil well. We
know that the state decides that. What we're asking you is to live up to
your website that says the Board of County Commissioners are
responsible for providing service to protect the health, safety, welfare,
and the quality of the citizens of Collier County.
We are asking you, the County Commissioners, for reassurance
that the noise ordinance will be enforced according to Section 54-92.
The maximum permissible sound levels, as stated in Table 1, are from
7 to 10 a.m., 60 dBA and 72 dBC; from 10 p.m. to 7 a.m., 55 dBA and
67 dBC.
This is a health issue. There is adverse physical and mental
problems with noise. For example, prolonged periods of exposure of
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just 65 dBA can cause mental and body fatigue. It contributes to the
development or aggravation of heart and circulatory diseases. Noise
can affect the quality and the quantity of sleep and can cause
permanent hearing loss.
People may feel a variety of negative emotions when exposed to
noise. Many report anger, disappointment, dissatisfaction, social
withdrawal, helplessness, depression, anxiety, distraction, and
exhaustion.
We have received information from many residents of Collier
County that have complained about noise far greater than this allowed,
and the authorities have ignored them time and time again. We are
going to work together to make our voices heard.
Many of the residents feel we are treated like second-class
citizens, that our concerns are dismissed, and there never seems to be
enough money left for the Estates.
I intend to purchase noise monitoring equipment to ensure that
we will not complain unnecessarily. And if there are any violations,
we expect to be taken seriously and the matter handled immediately.
We are asking you, the commissioners of Collier County, to
protect all the citizens by enforcing the noise ordinance and to take
our complaints seriously.
Thank you very much.
(Applause.)
MS. ANDREOULAKIS: Yeah. Hello. My name's Donna
Andreoulakis, and I thank you for the opportunity of giving me a
voice here. I'm just here for myself. I don't represent anybody.
I've been living in this Collier County since 1978. I came here
when it was just a fishing village and a paradise, and it was beautiful.
And there was a lot of zoning laws that protected the environment, and
it was just wonderful.
And as I have -- over the years living here I've seen many, many,
many changes, and a lot of them have been very displeasing to me.
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But when I heard about these oil wells, it was just unbelievable to me.
As been said, when you say Naples, Florida, you don't think of oil
wells, you know.
And I have a lot of friends that live out there in Golden Gate
Estates. My concern, as been said by others, is primarily the safety,
you know, of their health, the environment. You know, we -- I mean,
there's -- we've chased all of our environment -- you know, natural --
you know, the bears and the deers and the panthers and everything,
that's where they've all gone to, because there's no place left.
I used to live on Wiggins Pass Road. I used to see panthers. I
used to see deer. You don't see them anymore, you know.
I mean, how much more are we going to do, you know, to
destroy our environment? You know, beautiful Everglades
environment, the whole ecosystem, the water system, all of it, it's --
there's no other place like that in the whole world. And we are just
slowly, slowly destroying it.
And you, as our, you know, speakers, the County Commission
and stuff, I feel that it's your responsibility to protect the citizens, to
protect the habitat that's out there that will be absolutely destroyed
should this be permitted.
And that's all. Thank you very much.
(Applause.)
MR. DURAN-PINZON: Thank you for the opportunity to
address this board. I am Jaime Duran-Pinzon and have been a resident
of Golden Gate Estates for about three years.
My wife and I moved here looking for a quiet and healthy life.
Now, thanks to Collier resources, that is about to change.
I am not going to ask you to stop this oil well. I understand this
is beyond your authority; however, I am going to ask you to do your
job.
What I ask of you, you are empowered to do. I am asking you
that changes to the right-of-way on 24th Avenue Southeast be restored
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to original until all necessary permits have been obtained and only
then make those changes correctly and fully.
I am asking you to enforce the ordinances meant to protect our
health, well-being, and our right to enjoy our property.
I am asking you that the noise ordinance be enforced, that the
speed and weight limits on our streets be verified and enforced.
I am asking that you protect our safety by providing equipment,
facilities, and training to properly respond to any type of accident or
fire.
I am asking that you protect our health by making sure the dust
generated from unpaved streets like 24th Avenue be suppressed,
preferably by paving the street like should have been done years ago.
And, finally, I am asking you to protect our health by providing a
baseline water test for oil and gas drilling chemicals listed on the
permits and brines that -- and brines produced prior to drilling and
periodically until the wells are capped. This test to be made public.
Many residents of Golden Gate Estates feel that our rights and
concerns are irrelevant, that we are considered second-class citizens. I
am asking you, are you ready to change that perception? Are you
ready to fully protect our rights, safety, well-being, and health? Are
you ready to do your job? Thank you.
(Applause.)
MS. DWYER: Good morning, Commissioners. Thank you for
your attention. My name is Marianne Dwyer, and I'm a recent
transplant to Collier County. Like so many others who have come
here, I was drawn by the beauty of the natural environment and its
diversity.
In order to maintain the integrity of this environment and for our
health and well-being, our water must be conserved and kept safe.
As a private citizen, my water consumption is restricted, and I
comply willingly. To do otherwise would not be in the best interest of
my community; however, the Hughes Company is seeking a permit
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that includes 233,333 gallons of water per day for the well at 24th
Street in Golden Gate Estates.
That, along with the wells in Immokalee, Raccoon Point, and
Bear Island, add up to 1,208,000 gallons per day.
Much of this water will be contaminated with toxins used in the
drilling process and then stored in a waste well. The drilling industry
will tell you these wells are safe; however, in the last three years,
contaminated wastewater has found its way to the surface in
California, Oklahoma, and Louisiana. That's not to mention the
numbers of cracks and other areas that they've found where these
wells are starting to contaminate the surface.
Here in Florida, 20 disposal wells failed in the 1990s releasing
partly treated sewage into the aquifers.
Mario Salazar, an engineer who worked for 25 years with the
EPA in Washington on their underground injection programs says,
quote, in 10 to 100 years, we are going to find out that most of our
groundwater is polluted, a lot of people are going to get sick, and a lot
of people may die, end quote.
Please don't let this be your legacy in Collier County. It would
be a sad, messy, and expensive one. Tourists will go elsewhere;
snowbirds will stay home. I'm asking you to do what is necessary to
restrict the drilling in Golden Gate Estates now. Thank you.
(Applause.)
MS. HOFFMAN: My name is Janet Hoffman. I've been a
resident of Collier County for 33 years, nine of which I have lived in
the Estates.
I agree with the concerns that have been expressed in terms of
health, public safety, and environment. I'm very concerned. We have
a very special area. We have species here that are found nowhere else.
And just -- I would like to say that I agree with much of what has
been said, and thank you so much.
(Applause.)
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MS. COLEMAN: My name is Laura Coleman. I own a home in
the Golden Gate Estates, about 10 miles away from the site.
And since you had asked that we not be repetitive, I would just
like to say that I support community.
And you've said pretty much everything I was going to say, so I
would like to yield the balance of my time to the next speaker.
Thank you for your consideration.
MS. WHITEHEAD: May I speak now?
MR. MILLER: Yes.
MS. WHITEHEAD: Okay. I'm here representing both the Sierra
Club national and the local group of the Sierra Club called the Calusa
Group.
First, I will start with the remarks from the national.
MR. MILLER: Ma'am, your name?
MS. WHITEHEAD: Patty Whitehead, for the record.
My remarks are from Alexis Meyer. She is the national
representative for the Sierra Florida Panther Critical Habitat
Campaign. The club's concern for the campaign focus focuses
entirely on how to better protect Florida panthers and their habitat.
While we do share similar concerns with others on quality of life
and water-quantity issues, my focus is on the panther.
The potential oil wells are located in panther primary habitat, the
lands that are essential for the panther's continue existence.
Numerous panthers have been sighted within Golden Gate
Estates, and the project site is within one mile of the Florida Panther
National Wildlife Refuge and north or Picayune Strand, the
Fakahatchee, considered the Amazon of Florida.
We are concerned that no biological opinions or environmental
assessments have been done for this project. Since this project would
impact the federally protected endangered species, there is a concern
that proper regulations are not being followed by these companies.
Their greatest concern with any development in the area, other
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than loss of habitat for Northern America's most endangered mammal
is the impact from roads. Vehicle collisions are the greatest threat to
panthers, and 2012 had the highest vehicle mortality on record. Any
increase in traffic will pose a significant threat to the species.
Fencing and wildlife underpasses work very well when put to
use, but without them, there will be mortalities from this project, no
doubt.
At recent meetings, the oil companies have said that they're
implementing measures to reduce impacts to wildlife and plants but
have not been forthcoming on what measures these are. They have
not -- they've also not shared any documents with the public
concerning environmental impacts from this project.
Their transparency to the public is troubling, and the Sierra Club
questions whose interest they are holding.
Collier County boasts some of the most unique environmental
aspects in the state, if not the country, if not the world.
Projects like this set a precedent for destroying those vital assets
and threatening the future of Collier, a county's recreational and
economic draw.
I ask you to please do whatever's in your power to halt these
permits.
And these remarks are on behalf of the Calusa Group.
President Obama is about to take sweeping action on climate
change, using his powers as president to force change through
executive action. Where is the local initiative to support the president's
efforts? Is it because you-all have --
MR. MILLER: She was -- you may continue.
MS. WHITEHEAD: Is it because you-all have Rs after your
names rather than Ds, or is it because you work for a county named
after one of its wealthiest and largest landowners, whose ancestors
secured for his descendents all the mineral rights below the fragile and
unique aquatic and terrestrial natural resources of this area?
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Well, you represent more than the Collier family in this county.
You must do right by this issue. You must join us in pleading with the
DEP -- in pleading before the DEP to reject this well drilling permit.
Thank you.
MS. CAMPBELL: I had initially signed up for 10J. Is that
okay?
MR. MILLER: Sure.
MS. CAMPBELL: Okay. Thank you.
Good morning. Kate Campbell speaking on behalf of the
Conservancy of Southwest Florida and our more than 4,000 members
to comment on the oil and gas drilling operation near the Golden Gate
Estates.
The Conservancy has been tracking and commenting on the three
well permits associated with this project, the water well, the drilling
well, and the wastewater disposal well, and based on the information
that we have reviewed thus far, we do still have the following
concerns.
First, the applicant is requesting the use of up to 5 million gallons
of water per month from our surficial aquifers, which is, as someone
has said, the primary source of our drinking water in Collier County.
This is a great concern because it is located within the Big
Cypress watershed and connected to various wetlands that are
upstream from the Fakahatchee and Picayune Strands.
Any lowering of the water tables in this area could influence the
surrounding sensitive offsite lands. And, additionally, there will
potentially be impacts to the nearby private residential wells.
Secondly, we have concerns about altering the character of this
land from agricultural to industrial. The increase in traffic on the
roads from trucks, the building of the wells, and eventually production
of oil and gas could adversely impact panthers in the nearby Florida
Panthers Wildlife Refuge, which can lead to an increase in panthers
involving car strikes or disruption of the normal behavior patterns.
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And, finally, the disposing of wastewater from the drilling
operation using a deep injection well in such close proximity to
residential communities and fragile wetlands increases the chance of
harm occurring from unwanted migration of oil brine wastewater and
the possible contamination of surficial aquifers.
We ask that, given the environmental sensitivity of the area for
which this activity is proposed, that you communicate to South Florida
Water Management District and the Florida Department of
Environmental Protection as the permitting agencies and require that
the applicant provide more reasonable assurances to protect the public
water supply wetlands and listed wildlife species, whether this is
through imposing additional protective measures, asking for an
additional site, or using alternative water supply for the operation.
Thank you for considering our comments.
(Applause.)
MS. LOPEZ: Good morning, everybody. My name is Covi
Lopez, and I am living in the end of DeSoto, 30th Street Southeast --
by this -- I mean, 30th Avenue, sorry, by DeSoto Boulevard, for 11
years.
We love there the same way -- I love with all my heart the same
way I love Spain like I came from. It's so beautiful.
Anyways, for long time we are signing against petitions for -- I
mean, we sign petitions for oil drilling around the world. And now I
hear this is coming in our backyard. And I need to pinch my skin to
be sure I am awake and this is not a nightmare.
I work in the hospital in the night shift. And during season we
need nurses desperately. So I hope DeSoto Road and other roads can
be clear and we don't need this evacuation, because I need go to work,
like all people.
Anyways, we are predators of the mother earth. And it sounds
crazy, but pretty soon the earth's going to be crust (sic) if we're going
to start doing these things.
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So I hope we can do something and we can continue living there
in peace and happiness.
Thank you for all your time and for listening to me.
MR. MILLER: And that concludes our public comment
speakers, Madam Chairwoman.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you. We'll now recess for 10
minutes, thank you.
(A brief recess was had.)
MR. OCHS: Madam Chair, you have a live mike.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you. The next item, County
Manager.
MR. OCHS: Takes us to Item 10, Board of County
Commissioners. 10A is appointment of member to the Public Transit
Ad Hoc Advisory Committee. Glen Harrell, in the employer category,
is the recommended appointee.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Can I have a motion from the board,
please?
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Madam Chairwoman, I would like
to ask the board's indulgement (sic) to proceed -- I know it's irregular
-- to proceed to Item 10J, which is an add-on agenda item which
addresses the oil well letter, since we have all the public citizens here.
I think they're kind of looking for some sort of a statement from us
after we're heard a lengthy -- their lengthy concerns, and I'd like to
make a few statements and just talk about this agenda item, if it
pleases the board.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Is that acceptable to the members of
the board?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Yep.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Sure.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: In that case, we'll change the
agenda, and move to Item 10J.
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Item #10J — Discussed; Continued to later in the meeting
THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO CONSIDER
AUTHORIZING THE CHAIRWOMAN TO SEND A LETTER TO
REGULATORY AGENCIES RESPONSIBLE FOR PERMITTING
AND REGULATION OF OIL EXPLORATION AND OIL WELL
EXTRACTION OPERATIONS IN COLLIER COUNTY TO
INSURE THAT COLLIER COUNTY CITIZENS' COMMENTS
AND CONCERNS ARE GIVEN CAREFUL REVIEW AND
CONSIDERATION, AND THAT COLLIER COUNTY IS FULLY
INFORMED AND INTEGRATED INTO PERMITTING AND
MANAGEMENT REQUIREMENTS TO SAFEGUARD THE
LOCAL HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE, OF ALL COLLIER
CITIZENS - DISCUSSED; CONTINUED TO LATER IN THE
MEETING UNDER ITEM #15; MOTION TO APPROVE THE
PROPOSED LETTER AS AMENDED BY THE BOARD —
APPROVED
MR. OCHS: Which is a recommendation for the Board of
County Commissioners to consider authorizing the chairwoman to
send a letter of -- excuse me -- a letter to regulatory agencies
responsible for the permitting and regulation of oil exploration and oil
extraction operations in Collier County.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And this would be a letter on behalf
of the Board of County Commissioners asking that the two state
agencies, the State of Florida Department of Environmental Protection
and South Florida Water Management District, give consideration to
public comment on any permit application; is that correct,
Commissioner Nance?
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Yes. Madam Chair and members
of the board, I brought this agenda item forward because of the
concerns that have been expressed to me and personal concerns that I
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share with the citizens regarding oil exploration and oil well extraction
in the area near residential properties.
I'd like to make a few general comments. And this is a very
difficult situation. And Golden Gate Estates, because it is so large,
encompassing over 150 square miles, it borders on almost every sort
of activity that you can imagine. It borders on, of course, various
different sorts of growth from commercial to higher density residential
circumstances, and it also borders on a lot of conservation land.
Going back many years ago when conservation lands from the
families belonging to the Colliers came into public ownership, there
was a lot of consideration that went on regarding minerals and natural
resources, including oil wells. And this is not generally understood by
the public at large.
Collier County, as you might or might not know, has over
800,000 acres of land in public ownership. Over two-thirds of this
square area of the county is in some sort of public ownership enjoying
various overlays of protections of some sort or another.
And with the exception of Franklin County -- excuse me,
Franklin County in the panhandle, which is a very small county, it's
the largest percentage of protection of any county out of the 67 in the
State of Florida.
And I will say, over a period of time, the regulatory agencies that
we are relying on in this circumstance and the Board of County
Commissioners and your local government, together with the citizens
and together with environmental advocacy groups, have been the ones
that have been able to achieve this. Having over two-thirds of your
land in conservation and protected is actually something that's very
wonderful.
Unfortunately, when the Department of the Interior and the
United States Congress authorized the creation of the Big Cypress
National Preserve, there was some consideration about minerals and
mining and oil, excuse me.
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At that time the oil reserves that were there were known, not to
the degree that they're known now, but they were known.
Originally, the addition of this land into conservation was
proposed to be an addition to Everglades National Park. The reason
that it was not made an addition to Everglades National Park is
because of the request for public traditional use, and that was hunting,
fishing, and recreating in that area, but the main consideration were
the oil resources. It was anticipated that these sorts of things have
been going on for a very long time.
So what does that mean for Collier County? It means, generally,
that as technology has gotten greater in the oil extraction industry, the
likelihood is -- and we're just seeing the tip of the iceberg -- that we're
going to have a great deal of oil exploration in Collier County in the
Sunniland Trend and in the oil deposits beneath it.
So what does that mean we have to do? It means that we have to
communicate clearly with these agencies that we expect them to
regulate the extraction of those resources in an appropriate manner for
the place that it's being done. And it's not new. There have been
some done in the past. But with the added pressure, I think we have
an added responsibility to communicate clearly our concerns for
what's going to happen in Collier County. Even more so when it
approaches residential properties. And, of course, that's the first time
this has taken place.
So I just want to let everybody know, I -- you know, I've lived in
South Florida all my life. I've lived in Collier County most of my adult
life. I've lived in the Estates area over 30 years. I don't actually live in
the Estates. I live in the North Belle Meade, which is even a little
more wild and woolier than the Estates.
And, you know, I've been next to truck traffic associated with
growth. I've been next to mining and blasting. I've had oil
exploration take place on my property back in the early '80s. So I'm
aware of this, and I am very sensitive to what it is that we have to do.
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I just want to let everybody know that I'm reaching out to the
board for support on this issue to make this communication so that we
encourage these agencies to address the circumstance. And it is a new
circumstance, and I think it demands their careful and judicious
review, and just to give the citizens a reassurance that this board is
going to do everything that we can -- that we can do and that we will
do to maintain your safety regarding traffic on roads, the destruction
or damage to your property that's associated with construction, and
that we have to reach out to these agencies and be prepared to address
our local response to your safety and health.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: If that's a motion, I'll second it.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: It's a long one, Commissioner
Coyle, but I think it's appropriate that we respond in this way.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Okay.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner Fiala?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes. One of the things that I'm most
concerned with -- and this is what these people have brought forward.
And I've always been passionate about our water sources and our
future water sources. And I don't want to see, in any way, us
impairing the future of Collier County and their water by us
permeating the water sources and possibly damaging or polluting
them.
So I totally agree with both of you. Thank you.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner Henning?
(Applause.)
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Well, I think this board, at least
the past board, I think, knowingly purchased conservation properties
that had -- that has oil drilling taking place now.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Pepper Ranch.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Is one. I think the other one is
the judge's property up there, Corkscrew.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: The Starnes property.
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COMMISSIONER HENNING: The Starnes property.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: What do they call it now?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Caracara.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: In the hysteria about -- in a
panther zone, I think it's because of the trips generation. You know,
I'd like a comparable with trip generation in that area of DeSoto
Boulevard and the different uses on what the trip generation should be.
I think we might be surprised that it is hysteria, and there's no
empirical evidence of panther strikes. I mean, vehicles used for this
operation might be less than a single-family home.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Would you like to comment on the
letter to the state agencies asking them to pay attention to the concerns
of residents or --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Having public input, yes. I
mean, I'm going to support the motion.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Okay. So I, of course, support the
motion also. I just think that this letter shouldn't just be signed by me
as the chair on behalf of the board, but rather that all commissioners
should attach their signature to it to show that, you know, there is, in
fact, unified support.
And, quite frankly, the board as a whole takes the position that,
you know, all agencies ought to carefully look at any matter that
affects Collier County and ought to give due consideration to public
input on any matter of concern to the public.
We just are adding emphasis in this case because there has been
quite a large outcry as put forward at the various public meetings.
So if county staff would kindly draft the letter and present it to
each commissioner for signature, I would very much appreciate that, if
we could amend your motion accordingly, Commissioner Nance.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: I think that's an excellent friendly
amendment, and I will support the amendment if Commissioner Coyle
will amend his second.
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COMMISSIONER COYLE: Yes, I would, if I could just ask for
one minor tweak.
If we're all going to sign it, it's possible that each of us might
have a word or two we would like to rearrange. So if we could ask the
county manager to solicit our comments on his draft --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Of course.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: -- and resolve them, and then bring
to our next meeting the letter for final approval for signature of all.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: I think that's a fair --
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Commissioner Coyle, I would
make one -- I would bring one thing to your attention, though, and that
is that the deadline for comment to the agency, to the regulatory
agencies, is the 30th of June, so we do have some urgency in getting
this prepared.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Okay. Then let's have him --
MR. OCHS: We'll be working on it right now and try to get it to
you in draft form --
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Before the end of the meeting.
MR. OCHS: -- before you conclude.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Good.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Thank you, sir.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Good.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: It should -- and I think
Commissioner Coyle is right, it should be presented before the end of
the meeting, and under commissioners' communications we can
review it and we can vote on it and sign it accordingly.
MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you.
MR. MILLER: Madam Chair -- Madam Chairwoman, you do
have six registered public speakers, four of whom who have already
spoken on the public comment side.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Under the circumstances, do you
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still want to speak given what our direction is?
MR. KRASOWSKI: Yes.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: You would like to still speak? Go
ahead, Bob.
MR. KRASOWSKI: Yes, yes. And not to -- excuse me. Bob
Krasowski.
Not to belabor the point. I think you are really moving in the
right direction and doing good work, as the residents have done.
This letter, though, I think there are certain things about the
letter, what it will contain, and I would suggest that it addresses -- it
makes clear that you, along with the citizens, are interested in those
specific issues that they have so adequately raised, you know. And
find the gems in what their comments were, the things that are
relevant to the local -- and, like, the noise, and the location and that
kind of stuff --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Water.
MR. KRASOWSKI: -- and put that in there.
But I would think that rather than do this all today -- because I
don't know how available they'll be to be here to look at the letter, but
I would think the chair or -- the staff and chair could construct the
letter and that they should share in looking at the letter before it's
finalized and sent on.
You have a couple of PhDs in English literature that know how
to write a letter, so they can go through it real fast. It wouldn't take a
lot of time.
So, you know, realizing the schedule, I'd certainly make that
issue -- very important, make that comment, and I think they'll
probably talk to that, too.
Then also I think that we would -- I would like to see the county
provide to the residents an opportunity to sit down with the people
responsible for the Growth Management Plan, have them explain the
Growth Management Plan and, between now and the time when they
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connect, you sit down with them, let the residents look at the Growth
Management Plan themselves, and find out what things come from the
state that are dictated to the county and what they cannot change and
then what other things are left to the county to the extent that the
county can improve and strengthen their position regarding laws and
all of that kind of stuff.
And, once again, I think these people could work through it real
quickly. So that's it. Like, they need input and review of the letter
before it's sent, and help them bring themselves up to speed on the
rules and regulations.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner Fiala?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes. I have to tell you that at the
end of this meeting I need to go to represent Collier County up at the
Florida Association of Counties conference in Tampa, so I won't be
here. And we need to get this thing done now, so I -- it's kind of you
to do that, and I'd love to share it, but I want to get this letter on the
way and make sure that we make an impact. I don't want to put it off.
So if you don't mind, I'd like to get it done today before we leave.
Thank you.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Sure.
Commissioner Coyle?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: No, I didn't -- that was from before.
I agree with Commissioner Fiala.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Okay.
MR. MILLER: Madam Chairwoman, there was one other
speaker I know didn't speak earlier. That's Mary Combs.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Would you like to speak?
Apparently she's left.
I think we'll then defer the vote to commissioners'
communications when we'll act on approving the letter as presented by
staff.
County Attorney, would you just take a minute and explain what
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our jurisdiction is and to what extent we're preempted in this matter.
MR. KLATZKOW: We've got two issues. The first issue is do
they have the lawful right to do what they wish to do. The answer to
that is yes, okay.
If you try to regulate that right-of-way, you'll be doing a
regulatory taking. At that point in time you'll be, essentially, buying
that property.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: In other words, a Bert Harris
action?
MR. KLATZKOW: Bert Harris action, all right.
The second issue is, since they have the right to do that, this
private property right, can we regulate it? The answer to that is no,
you cannot regulate that. The state regulates that through an extensive
body of law, an extensive body of regulations.
And as far as the regulations go and the issuance of the permit,
it's the state that needs to be addressed, not us. We simply do not have
the regulatory power in this matter.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you. So as I understand from
what you've just explained, this matter will not be coming before us
for approval?
MR. KLATZKOW: No.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thanks. Appreciate it.
County Manager, any comment from staff on this or not?
MR. OCHS: No, ma'am.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you. There being no further
discussion, we'll continue -- I'm sorry?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: There is a comment that needs to
be made. I think that the county has a permitting responsibility for the
plans to place the oil well on that property. And Nick can probably
expand on that a bit.
So I think it's improper to say that we have no role whatsoever.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Sure. And I can clarify that. Thank
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you, Commissioner Coyle. For the record, Nick Casalanguida.
We do an administrative permit for the location of the well on a
Site Development Plan. It's not a board-reviewed or a
counsel-reviewed permit.
So they'll provide a pad location, and they'll get a right-of-way
permit, and it's an administrator.
The only time this board would see it, if it goes into a production
well field. If they take the one well, add on several other wells,
combine them, and do a production field, then it becomes a
conditional use. At that point in time it goes to the Planning
Commission, and then it comes to the board for ultimate approval.
As -- since I've been here, and I looked back as far as I could, I
haven't seen any conditional uses come forward, because they're
typically these single source production wells. They generate about
20 truck trips a week after they're done from construction, two to three
a day. A tanker truck will come in, drain out the production container,
and then leave. I think that's the only part we get involved in.
I took two notes in the back. I wrote to John Vliet to say, as part
of the right-of-way permit, make sure the folks know that they have to
maintain DeSoto Boulevard and those other streets, so we'll cover that.
As far as noise is concerned, Jeff Wright, I said, you know, pull
the noise ordinance, let's give them a copy, and we'll make sure at the
property line they meet the decibel levels for construction.
So those are the only areas we enforce.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: What about the health, safety, and
welfare of our citizens concerning their water sources?
MR. CASALANGUIDA: DEP will permit those. And my
understanding is they'll test the wells and the waters that are in the
area.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Excuse me. We can't have any
comment from the audience unless you're at the podium. Thank you.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: DEP does permit those wells, and the
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producer, Barron Collier, said they'll put in three test wells, that they'll
provide those to anybody that wants to check the results for
contamination. So that's between them and DEP; we don't monitor
those.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: What about the two preserves that
we have that -- where we have allowed the mineral rights to be
retained by the seller? In the case of Pepper Ranch, the sellers have
very substantial mineral rights. How -- what would happen, for
example, on Pepper Ranch?
And, by the way, that transaction was approved by Conservancy
with full knowledge that --
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Right.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: -- the mineral rights would be
retained by the seller.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: And even the lots in Golden Gate
Estates, there's, you know, a release of mineral rights below where we
live. These two, they do horizontal drilling. They'll go down several
miles and then go horizontal several miles, so they can get to oil pretty
much anywhere.
In this formation and application, they're not going due west into
the Estates. They're going southeast with their horizontal portions.
They're going to go, you know, down.
So I think, you know, that's what they're applying for. But they
retain the mineral rights. You don't own the mineral rights below the
property in most of the land in Collier County. It's retained by the
original, you know, property owners, the Colliers.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Okay. Thank you very much.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: You're welcome.
MR. OCHS: Madam Chair, you have a --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: But the Colliers didn't sell us Pepper
Ranch. That was sold by somebody else.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: It's in the title.
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CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: I'm sorry? The mineral rights on
Pepper Ranch are owned by the previous sellers, I thought.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: I can't speak to -- all the land
transactions, it's in the title.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Oh, of course.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: In other words, when the original sale
took place, the mineral rights were removed on a lot of properties.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Oh, I see.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: So whoever owned Pepper Ranch --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: So basically the underlying mineral
rights throughout Collier County are retained by the Colliers
regardless of subsequent transactions?
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Yeah. And I can't tell you the
percentage. I know it's high. They own most of the mineral rights in
Collier County.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Except for that little piece on
Immokalee airport.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: So we've got a motion and a
second.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Fine. All right. Thank you very
much. We have a time-certain.
MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: We have a motion and a second.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: But, no, we're going to vote on this
after the letter is presented.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Okay.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: We're not going to deal with this at
this point.
Item #11B
RESOLUTION 2013-142/CWS 2013-03: TO 1) ADOPT A
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RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ADDITIONAL
DISBURSEMENTS UNDER TWO EXISTING STATE
REVOLVING FUND LOAN AGREEMENTS, AS AMENDED,
WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION IN AN AGGREGATE
PRINCIPAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $25,000,000 TO
REFUND A PORTION OF THE COLLIER COUNTY WATER-
SEWER DISTRICT WATER AND SEWER REVENUE BONDS,
SERIES 2006; 2) AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION AND
DELIVERY OF TWO STATE REVOLVING FUND LOAN
AGREEMENT AMENDMENTS; AND , 3) AUTHORIZE THE
EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF AN ESCROW DEPOSIT
AGREEMENT WITH U.S. BANK NATIONAL ASSOCIATION —
ADOPTED
MR. OCHS: Madam Chair, 11B is your 11 a.m. time-certain
hearing. It's a recommendation to, number one, adopt a resolution
authorizing additional disbursements under two existing
state-revolving fund loan agreements as amended with the State of
Florida Department of Environmental Protection in an aggregate
principal amount not to exceed $25 million to refund a portion of the
Collier County Water/Sewer District Water and Sewer Revenue Bond,
Series 2006; number two, authorize the execution and delivery of two
state-revolving fund loan agreement amendments; and number three,
authorize the execution and delivery of an escrow deposit agreement
with U.S. Bank National Association.
And Mr. Joe Bellone, your utility finance operations director,
may present or answer questions.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: County Manager, there's a
gentleman standing behind Mr. Bellone. Is there something --
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: I'd like to ask if I can give this to
the city manager for his comment for his letter.
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CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: You're welcome to give it to him.
Go right ahead. Thank you.
MR. OCHS: Thank you.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Mr. Bellone, are you required by
law to make any statements on the record in order for this to happen?
MR. BELLONE: Madam Chair, no, I am not.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Is there any comment that you
would like to make other than that is a good thing?
MR. BELLONE: No, Madam Chair, other than to thank the --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you.
MR. BELLONE: -- small community that helped to make this
possible today, that's the finance committee, the representatives from
Angie Brewer & Associates, our state-revolving fund loan consultants,
and our county's financial advisors all contributed to this.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Motion to approve.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And I'll second it.
There being no discussion, all in favor?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: (No verbal response.)
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Motion carries unanimously.
MR. OCHS: Thank you, Commissioners. That takes us
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Please take off the light for public
speakers.
MR. MILLER: Sony.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you.
Item #1 OA
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RESOLUTION 2013-143: APPOINTING GLEN D. HARRELL TO
THE PUBLIC TRANSIT AD HOC ADVISORY COMMITTEE —
ADOPTED
MR. OCHS: We move back to Item 10, Board of County
Commissioners. 10A is appointment of member to the Public Transit
Ad Hoc Advisory Committee.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Move to approve Glen Harrell.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Second.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: All in favor?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: (No verbal response.)
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Motion carries unanimously.
Item #10B
RESOLUTION 2013-144: RE-APPOINTING RONALD J. DOINO,
JR. AND MICHAEL BOYD TO THE CONTRACTORS
LICENSING BOARD — ADOPTED
MR. OCHS: 10B is appointment of members to the Contractors
Licensing Board.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Move to approve Michael Boyd
and Ronald Denaro (sic).
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Do I have a second?
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Second.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Any discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: There being no discussion, all in
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favor?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: (No verbal response.)
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Motion carries unanimously.
Item #10C
RESOLUTION 2013-145: APPOINTING DARLING SMITH TO
THE BLACK AFFAIRS ADVISORY BOARD — ADOPTED
MR. OCHS: 10C is appointment of member to the Black Affairs
Advisory Board.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Move to approve Darling Smith.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Second.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Any discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: There being no discussion, all in
favor?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: (No verbal response.)
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Motion carries unanimously.
Item #10D
RESOLUTION 2013-146: RE-APPOINTING BARBARA MINCH
ROSENBERG TO THE EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES
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AUTHORITY — ADOPTED
MR. OCHS: 10D is appointment of member to the Educational
Facilities Authority.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Move to approve Barbara
Rosenberg.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Second.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Any discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: There being no discussion, all in
favor?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: (No verbal response.)
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Motion carries unanimously.
Item #10E
RESOLUTION 2013-147: RE-APPOINTING JOHN J. AGNELLI
TO THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY —
ADOPTED
MR. OCHS: 10E is appointment of member to the Industrial
Development Authority.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Move to approve John Agnelli.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Second.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Any discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: There being no discussion, all in
favor?
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COMMISSIONER COYLE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: (No verbal response.)
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Motion carries unanimously.
Item #10F
RESOLUTION 2013-148: APPOINTING WILLIAM BRUCE
GARRETT, JR. AND VINCENT KEEYS TO THE AIRPORT
AUTHORITY ADVISORY BOARD — ADOPTED
MR. OCHS: 10F is appointment of member to the Airport
Authority Advisory Board.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Move to approve William
Garrett and Vincent Keeys.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: No. You know what, did we read
all of these things? I just can't -- I can't go along with that, being that
now we're going to have, with these two, five people all representing
the Immokalee airport. Mr. Garrett, although he lives in my district,
he works for Fletcher, according to all of the backup material.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Oh, that Fletcher.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Mr. Keeys, they -- what they said
was we would only have people from the Immokalee airport and -- or
from District 5, and you wouldn't have anybody else on there. And
we do have a couple other airports out there, like, for instance, Marco
that's the cash cow.
And so I think we ought to go back to the drawing board and see
if we can't recruit people from other areas rather than only from
Immokalee.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner --
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COMMISSIONER COYLE: I would agree.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Immokalee people.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Any --
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Well, I mean that -- we can --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Did you make a motion on that,
Commissioner Henning?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: I did.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: He did.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Do we have a second?
COMMISSIONER NANCE: I will second it. I will -- under
comment I will say, you know, at present we can't even conduct
business out there because we don't have a quorum.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Well, how can we conduct business
if they only come from -- currently both advisory board members and
one alternate member are all from District 5, resulting -- with these
two, that would be five members on there from District 5 and with an
overrepresentation for just one district, and I just think that that is so
wrong.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: One speaker?
MR. MILLER: One.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: One speaker.
MR. MILLER: Would you like me to call the speaker?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Yes, please.
MR. MILLER: Your public speaker is Michael Schumann.
MR. SCHUMANN: Madam Chair, members of the board, you
currently have five vacancies on this board. You've got two
applicants. This is an example of what I talked about earlier today.
You have one application, mine, that hasn't even been forwarded
to you because I am not a registered voter in Collier County.
There is a lot of people in Collier County that are interested in
airports who, for whatever reason, are not registered to vote here or
not full-time residents, but we pay a lot of taxes, and we use the
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airports, and we would like to, basically, participate.
And you have the vacancies, and you have a problem that
Commissioner Fiala indicated, that you have virtually 100 percent
right now on the board representing one geographic area.
I'm an example of somebody who's in District 4, okay. The easy
way to solve this problem is to eliminate the requirement that you
automatically have to be a registered voter in Collier County to be on
the board.
I think people that are -- that spend a lot of time in Collier
County -- I own a business here. I spend eight months of the year in
Collier County. I'm very active in the community. I participate in the
local SCORE chapter. People like me should have the opportunity to
participate.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Let me make a suggestion. We're
going to have a workshop on the advisory boards. We're going to see
-- you know, we're going to do a cost-benefit analysis, evaluate what's
legally required versus what is discretionary, and we'll bring up your
comment for consideration during the workshop and decide whether
or not at that time, as we review how our advisory boards are selected
-- and give consideration to your recommendation at that time.
MR. SCHUMANN: I guess my question is, why wait? Okay.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Well, because we're going to have a
workshop to address and discuss this, and it would be the appropriate
forum to look at your recommendation in totality with other
recommendations that are coming forward with respect to the
operation of advisory boards and the selection of its members.
MR. SCHUMANN: And when is that going to be?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: The county manager will be putting
the schedule together. It will be in September, I believe.
MR. SCHUMANN: Okay. But you have vacancies right now.
And I'm not suggesting that you change anything that forces you to
put anybody who's not a resident on these boards. I'm just suggesting
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you change the ordinance expeditiously so you have the option.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: The ordinance is not on the
agenda today.
MR. SCHUMANN: No, I understand that.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: All right. Thank you.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: And let me read one more thing
from this, please.
Jeff Klatzkow, he said this appointment would create a recurring
voting conflict. Accordingly, I would strongly advise against such an
appointment. And the other thing here, it says, the employee -- this
particular gentleman is an employee of the company that does
business with the airport on the advisory board and represents a
conflict of interest.
So I think we're sliding down a slippery slope if we do this.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner Coyle?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Yeah. I was going to point that
out. It really is a violation of our ordinance also. The ordinance
prescribes that there would be at least one member appointed from
each of the communities of Immokalee, Marco Island, and Everglades
City and that there should not be a conflict of interest.
But the point is that we are making decisions concerning the
airport right now, and we've done it without the advisory board at all.
I don't see the need to rush into it. I think a workshop on that issue is
entirely appropriate, and I would like the idea (sic) to deal with that
issue and to discuss qualifications of people for the airport board --
advisory board appointments.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner Henning?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Well, this hysteria is just the
previous board against --
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Hysteria?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: -- Fletcher Flying --
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COMMISSIONER COYLE: Hysteria?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: -- you know, the one gentleman
that's applying for it does live in Marco Island, District --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes, and he works for Fletcher
Flying.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah, I know. It's again -- it's
all about against Fletcher Flying.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: No, it isn't. It's about stacking the
deck.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: The one who buys 50 percent of
the -- more than 50 percent of the fuel in Immokalee.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: In Immokalee.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: And as far as it deals with
Fletcher Flying, this gentleman from Marco Island would have to vote
against it. You know, there is a vacancy. There's no advisory board
as present. So either we do away with the board, or we start
appointing members.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Do you -- I mean, you're a pretty
fair guy. Do you honestly feel that having five members all working
for one airport is a fair outcome? I mean, you're really fair. I can't
believe that you honestly feel that it's okay to have everybody
working for one airport rather than all three airports. I cannot vote for
this.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner Nance?
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Yeah. Commissioner Fiala, I don't
know how you say that there's five people working for one airport.
Mr. Klein is from Everglades City.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I said --
COMMISSIONER NANCE: The other gentleman is from Ave
Maria, and he's an airline pilot for American Airlines, and Mr. Crews
is a resident of Immokalee. So it's not like we have everybody
associated with --
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COMMISSIONER FIALA: They're all District 5, though, right?
Yes. Every single one of them lives in District 5. Well, doesn't live
there. The guy that lives in Marco works out of District 5.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Yeah, he -- well, yeah, he lives in
Marco, and Mr. Klein lives in Everglades City.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: District 5.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Right, which -- all right. Well, two
out of the three airports happen to be in District 5. So, I mean, if there
is somebody from Marco Island that wants to represent Marco, I wish
-- you know, I wish they would step forward.
But the fact of the matter is, we can't do -- we are getting
absolutely nothing out of this advisory board, because they're not --
they can't -- they're incapable of having a meeting.
If people want to declare their conflict of interest, they certainly
need to do that, but I don't think that that -- that should stop us from
going forward.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Let me ask you, why is so much
attention being focused on Immokalee airport and nothing focused on
the other two airports?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Madam Chair, I call the
question.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: There being no further discussion,
all in favor?
(No verbal response.)
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Motion carries 3-2 with
Commissioner Fiala and Coyle dissenting.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: We'll see what happens now with
the airports.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: I just want to go ahead and make a
comment. There was an application to the Planning Commission for
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an open seat in my district, and through no one's fault, that application
didn't come forward and should properly have been on today's agenda.
And if the board would indulge, I would like -- since the
applicant has been waiting and expected to be heard, I would like the
application to be brought forward today, if we could address that
during communications, give the board the opportunity to review the
applicant's bio and then vote on it just before the end of this meeting.
The applicant is Mike Rosen. I think many of you know Mike
Rosen.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Yes.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Do you know Mike Rosen?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I don't know. I can't remember.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Can't remember.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: No, I know somebody named
Rosen.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: He used to work -- he used to be the
representative for Divosta for Pulte Homes.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Oh, I know who he is. I do know
who he is.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And so my recommendation will be
to appoint Mike Rosen to the seat on the Planning Commission.
And he did submit his application. I did have an opportunity to
review it, and I'd like to get that done today.
So if you don't mind, official advisory board coordinator, if you
could kindly give his application to the members of the board, allow
them to review it, and then we'll bring it forward right before we go
into communications and vote on that.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: I would make -- if you need a -- if
that's a motion, I'll make a second.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Okay. Are we allowed to do that
without first public noticing it?
MR. KLATZKOW: It would have been easier if -- when we set
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the agenda, if we could put this item on then as a new item before the
board.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: I'd like to do it now. I mean, this
should have been on this agenda, and I don't want to keep -- actually, I
think it was supposed to be on the last agenda, because I just found out
about it, you know, yesterday, and spoke to the applicant and found
out that they had applied. And, actually, I do believe it should have
been on the previous agenda. And, again, through no one's fault.
MR. KLATZKOW: If you go this route, you will have a
procedural question as to this appointment that you would not have if
you wait till the next meeting and do this.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: What is the procedural question?
MR. KLATZKOW: It's not on your agenda. There's no public
notice. You have no application. The public doesn't have the ability to
come here and comment on it.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Let's put it on the 9th.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Okay. Then put it on the agenda for
the 9th.
MR. KLATZKOW: I think that's best, yes.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: That's fine.
MS. BARTLETT: It's already on the agenda for the 9th.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Is it? Okay. You're very kind.
Thanks for doing that.
MR. OCHS: Commissioner --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: We'll just move it to the agenda for
the 9th then.
MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: So we won't make a modification.
MR. OCHS: Very good.
Item #10H
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RECONSIDERATION ITEM OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS (BCC), ACTING IN ITS CAPACITY AS THE
COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY (CRA), APPROVE
THE RELOCATION OF THE IMMOKALEE CRA OFFICE,
AUTHORIZE GIVING NOTICE TO THE CRA'S CURRENT
LANDLORD OF ITS INTENT NOT TO RENEW THE EXISTING
LEASE AGREEMENT, APPROVE ENTERING INTO A LEASE
AGREEMENT FOR OFFICE SPACE WITH THE SOUTHWEST
FLORIDA WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD, INC., AND
AUTHORIZE THE CRA CHAIR TO SIGN THE A LEASE4
AGREEMENT WITH AN ANNUAL CRA RENT EXPENDITURE
OF NOT-TO-EXCEED $21,766.32. — MOTION TO DENY —
APPROVED
MR. OCHS: Item 10H is a recommendation the Board of County
Commissioners, acting in its capacity as the Community
Redevelopment Agency, approve the relocation of the Immokalee
CRA office, authorize giving notice to the CRA's current landlord of
its intent not to renew the existing lease agreement, approve entering
into lease agreement for office space with Southwest Florida
Workforce Development Board, and authorize CRA chair to sign and
attach the lease agreement and annual CRA expenditure of not to
exceed $21,766.32.
This item was approved by the board at the June 11th meeting for
reconsideration. That reconsideration at that time was brought
forward by Commissioner Henning.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Let me make a suggestion.
MR. OCHS: Madam Chair, excuse my interruption, but you
have an identical item listed under your CRA.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: I know. And that's -- actually, you
and I are on the same page. I was just going to say 14B 1 is the same
issue under the CRA, so I'd like to hear them both as companion items
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so we don't have to go back and forth on the same issue.
Commissioner Henning?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Thank you.
Madam Chair, working with the interim CRA director on
potentially locating at the airport, I tried to reduce the cost to the CRA
knowing that they previously had a lease at the airport that didn't work
out because of the location of the particular facility and needing of
capital improvements. I didn't think it'd be a concern but, from my
understanding, it is a concern from the advisory board members of the
Immokalee CRA.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: So you don't want to reconsider it?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Therefore, I want you to vote no
on the reconsideration --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Okay.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: -- to -- so working with CRA
members, and the subsequent item to extend the existing lease is to
vote no on that also.
So I make a motion to vote no on this.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Do I have a second?
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Second.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Do you really want to comment on
this?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: No. I was going to talk about
CRAs. But are we going to have a workshop on the CRAs? Because
I --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Can we talk about that under
communications?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes, we can.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: That's great. Thank you.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Thank you.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: There being no further discussion,
all in favor?
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COMMISSIONER COYLE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: (No verbal response.)
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Motion carries unanimously.
Item #14B1
THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS (BCC), ACTING
IN ITS CAPACITY AS THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT
AGENCY (CRA), THE RELOCATION OF THE IMMOKALEE
CRA OFFICE, AUTHORIZING FINING NOTICE TO THE CRA'S
CURRENT LANDLORD OF ITS INTENT NOT TO RENEW THE
EXISTING LEASE AGREEMENT, APPROVED ENTERING INTO
A LEASE AGREEMENT FOR OFFICE SPACE WITH THE
SOUTHWEST FLORIDA WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT
BOARD, INC., AND AUTHORIZING THE CRA CHAIR TO SIGN
A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH AN ANNUAL CRA REND
EXPENDITURE OF NOT TO EXCEED $21,766.32 — APPROVED
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: If we could now move to 14B 1.
MR. OCHS: Madam Chair, would you like to convene as the
CRA now?
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Yes. We will convene the Board of
County Commissioners acting as the Collier County CRA in session.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: County Manager?
MR. OCHS: And 14B1, Mr. Chairman, is consideration of the
proposed office space lease agreement with the south -- excuse me --
Southwest Florida Workforce Development Board.
Mr. Muckel is here on behalf of the CRA, if you have any
questions.
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CHAIRMAN NANCE: Yes. Commissioner Henning, do you
have any further comment on that?
I think, with my discussions with Mr. Muckel, he would like to --
he would like to enter into this new agreement at the Southwest
Florida Works, the facility known as the One Stop. Mr. Muckel, do
you have any comment for us, sir?
MR. MUCKEL: Not at all. This item was approved back in
May during your regular board meeting, so we'll just -- I have the
lease here with me today. I'll circulate it for signatures, and that will
be it.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Yes, sir. Actually, I personally thank
you for it. I think it's going to be a great relocation.
I also thank Commissioner Henning for his concern in being
engaged in Immokalee CRA. It's great to have multiple
commissioners working on that, and I thank you for your initiative.
MR. MUCKEL: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah, let me -- correction. I
thought this was a lease extension from the existing location.
MR. OCHS: No, sir.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: But I -- correct me if I'm wrong,
we do want to vote yes on this one.
MR. OCHS: Yes, sir.
MR. MUCKEL: To move the CRA to the Southwest Florida
Workforce Building, correct.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Correct, my apologies.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: That was the action that was
previously taken.
MR. MUCKEL: Yes, it was, on May 28th, I believe.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: So since there is no
reconsideration and since action was already taken, I don't think we
have to vote on this again.
MR. MUCKEL: Exactly.
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COMMISSIONER HILLER: Do we? We're done.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Could I ask a question, though?
MR. KLATZKOW: You know, if you just vote yes, we're done
with any question.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Is there a motion to approve?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: So moved.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Second.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Is there any discussion? Commissioner
Coyle, anything to say, sir?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: No.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I have a question.
Brad, I'm so interested, passionate, really, about the CRAs. And
I was just wondering, what are you doing right now as far as progress
goes or, you know, to kick start this thing or get it moving in the right
direction? I realize you've had a lot of turmoil now trying to figure
out where you're going to live.
MR. MUCKEL: Sure.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: But what projects are you working
on?
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Fiala, could we table this
discussion down into comments? I'm trying to --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Well, the reason I'm asking now is
because he's here how.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yeah, but we have a time-certain
that's coming up right now.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Okay.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: I have a tight agenda, and I have to
stay on schedule.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: I would appreciate your indulgence.
We're trying to make a --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Would you let me know in writing
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then?
MR. MUCKEL: Absolutely.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I'm just so interested in it. And I'm
sorry that I'm being cut off.
MR. MUCKEL: It would be my pleasure. I'll do that.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Please understand I share your
enthusiasm, and Mr. Muckel has, indeed, done a great job. But I'd like
to move this approval forward. If there's no further discussion.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Go ahead.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Hearing none, all those in favor, signify
by saying aye.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any opposed, like sign?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: The motion is approved unanimously.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Do you want to close the CRA?
CHAIRMAN NANCE: You want to -- we're going to now close
the session of the Community Redevelopment Agency --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Don't you have the next, 14B2?
CHAIRMAN NANCE: -- return to the agenda.
MR. OCHS: Ms. Jourdan is not here, Commissioner.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Oh, okay.
MR. OCHS: She'll be here when that item comes back up.
Item #10I
DIRECT THE COUNTY MANAGER TO PREPARE AND
PRESENT A SUMMARY INVENTORY OF COLLIER COUNTY
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CAPITAL ASSETS THAT HAVE HAD PROGRAMMED
MAINTENANCE OR REPLACEMENT THAT HAS BEEN
DELAYED OR DEFERRED DUE TO LACK OF SUFFICIENT
FUNDING, TOGETHER WITH AN ESTIMATE OF THE
EXPENSE AND FISCAL OBLIGATION THAT HAS BEEN
DEFERRED IN 2013 DOLLARS. INVENTORY TO LIST,
IDENTIFY, AND BREAK OUT DETAIL OF THE DELAYED
MAINTENANCE NEEDS AND PROJECTS, TOGETHER WITH
EXPENSE ESTIMATES FOR EACH CATEGORY, INCLUDING
AN ITEMIZATION OF ANY INDIVIDUAL ASSET OR SYSTEM
NEEDING REPLACEMENT OR UPGRADE, OR ANY
AGGREGATE MAINTENANCE PROJECT UNDER A LISTED
CATEGORY ESTIMATED TO COST IN EXCESS OF $250,000. —
MOTION TO PLACE ON THE BOARD'S FALL WORKSHOP
AGENDA — APPROVED
MR. OCHS: Madam Chair, that takes you back to Item 10I,
which is a recommendation to direct the county manager to prepare
and present a summary inventory of Collier County capital assets that
have had programmed maintenance or replacement that has been
delayed or deferred due to lack of sufficient funding, together with an
estimate of the expense and fiscal obligation that has been deferred in
2013 dollars.
Inventory to list, identify, and break out detail of the delayed
maintenance needs and projects together with expense estimates for
each category, including an itemization of any individual asset or
system needing replacement or upgrade, or any aggregate
maintenance project under a listed category estimated to cost in excess
of $250,000.
This item was brought forward by Commissioner Nance.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner Nance, would you
like to comment?
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COMMISSIONER NANCE: Yes, ma'am.
Madam Chair and members of the board, I brought this agenda
item forward because of my concern reviewing the four-year 2014
budget summary and the different caveats that were included by staff
in that. Throughout the presentation of the budget, there were
comments.
For example, on Page 6 of the budget summary, there was a
caveat presented that says the county's ability to dedicate proper
resources to asset, maintenance, and replacement will be challenged
going forward without additional cuts in operating services or the
introduction of new resources.
That's basically an administrative caveat that says we're going to
have to have new sources of revenue or a tax increase.
Throughout the budget, there was also statements made that
different divisions in our county government operations that are on a
break-and-fix circumstance, which means that we have deferred
preventative maintenance and we're going to a break-and-fix sort of a
survival mode which, of course, is more costly over a period of time
and may result in downtime and cuts in operating services.
So I thought it appropriate, since this deferred maintenance is
going to be a long-term cost to us for which we're going to have to
budget in the years, not only this present year, but going forward, that
we arrive at some sort of a basic inventory so that the board can take a
look at where we are and help decision-make, together with staff, on
the different sorts of challenges that we have going forward.
I just think this is very appropriate. And, you know, I think it
should be brought to the board, and I think it should be made a matter
of public record so the public is not under any delusions as to the
challenges we face going forward with our budget.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: If I may, the county manager was
directed to develop what you're describing about two years ago, and I
believe staff is close to finalizing that analysis.
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County Manager, when can you bring that forward? Because this
was already directed, like, I think, in 2011, 2012.
MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am. This is -- in fact, what Commissioner
Nance has asked for is a principal objective and outcome of the asset
management project that is underway.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Exactly.
MR. OCHS: We are scheduled -- and I'm bringing you an
updated workshop schedule at the next meeting that will assign
workshop topics through the rest of the calendar year.
We had earmarked presentation on this item for the September
workshop. I know you've asked now for the advisory board item to be
added to that as well.
So as soon as you get back from your break this summer,
Commissioners, we are scheduled to workshop this item with you and
show you the progress to date, show you the inventory of the assets
that we have so far cataloged and valued, and we'll be able to make a
fairly comprehensive presentation in the fall.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: That, sir, though -- isn't that --
that's a plan for the management of our assets as a whole.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: No. It's the inventory of the assets
MR. OCHS: Well, it's --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: -- and the estimate of what the
repairs and replacements will be going forward.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: For all assets.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: For all the assets.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Is that going to include a statement
of those in arrears? This is what I'm asking --
MR. OCHS: Yes.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: I'm asking for a statement of what's
in arrears. I'm not asking for --
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MR. OCHS: Right.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: -- you know, for you to finish your
plan on asset management as a whole, which I think is, of course,
critical to that. But I'm trying to get an assessment of where it is that
we are at present.
MR. OCHS: Yes. And we will do both at that workshop.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: So this is going to be included in
the workshop?
MR. OCHS: Yes.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Yeah, because --
COMMISSIONER NANCE: And the scheduled date is?
MR. OCHS: Well, it's going to depend on what date the board
sets at their next meeting, either September or October, depending on
which items you prioritize for your workshops in those two months.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: All right.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: To give you an example, one of the
items that is due for replacement is the 800 megahertz system, which
was included in our budget. That's an example of an item which, I
mean, technically should have been replaced several years back as
pointed out by Commissioner Coyle. That's being addressed. That
would be included on there.
They can't -- the staff cannot ignore what has to be done that
hasn't been done yet. All they will do is, when there is something that
has priority because it's been delayed, it will just be, in the schedule of
priorities, the first item that the board will be asked to consider for
either placement or repair, as the case may be.
So I think that what -- my understanding of what the county
manager is doing is exactly what you've asked but what the board has
asked already previously, which is what he's bringing forward.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: All right.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: So, basically, what you're asking is
what the board has already asked. So you're in line in -- with the
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board's thinking of what's needed in order for us to properly assess,
you know, what our future obligations will be with respect to our
aging assets.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: All right. So I'm going to make a
motion that this inventory be made part of the workshop that's
scheduled to be held in the fall then.
MR. OCHS: That would be fine, sir.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Yeah, that's fine. I'll second that.
There being no further discussion, all in favor?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: (No verbal response.)
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: (No verbal response.)
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: (Absent.)
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Motion carries unanimously.
We have a time-certain.
Item #13A
PRESENTATION BY THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT'S
OFFICE REGARDING AUDIT REPORT 2013-4 PARKS AND
RECREATION FREEDOM PARK FOLLOW-UP CASH REVIEW —
PRESENTED AND DISCUSSED
MR. OCHS: Yes, we do, Madam Chair. That is Item 13A on
your agenda. It is a presentation by the Clerk of the Circuit Court's
office regarding Audit Report 2013-4, parks and recreation, Freedom
Park follow-up cash review.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner Coyle has something
he has to do, so he's going to be excusing himself right now, and then
he'll be returning at 1:30, just for the record.
(Commissioner Coyle left the boardroom.)
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MR. OCHS: Madam Chair, I'm sorry. You will be reconvening
the meeting at 1 o'clock or 1:30? -
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: It depends on when we finish. If we
finish at noon, we'll reconvene at 1. If we finish beyond noon, then
we will reconvene at 1:30. We'll be flexible to try to get as much done
in the time we have available.
MS. GAILLARD: At the request of -- Megan Gaillard, for the
record. The Clerk's Office conducted a follow-up cash review for
Freedom Park at the request of the board on the April 9th meeting.
Previously, we had multiple findings for cash and the controls
over the location. Of the original comments, 79 percent have been
corrected, and 21 percent remain, which is three items.
The location remains a strong concern for the Clerk's Office and
the parks and recreation department. While it doesn't take much
revenue, weakness in controls is very concerning.
Picture of the gift shop. Our objective was to determine whether
the corrective actions were adequate and sufficiently addressed the
initial findings.
During our review the three open comp findings remained, that
there was still an inordinate number of item-not-found transactions,
the no-sale transaction is still not being properly controlled, and
deposits haven't been made in accordance with the policy. And seven
additional audit findings were noted in this review.
The first additional finding is that there's an inadequate control
over the no-sale features access. Once the users log into the computer
system, all users have the same password and user ID.
When they're making entries in the system, the descriptions still
are not accurate, and transactions haven't been conducted in
accordance with the policies.
The second finding is the inordinate number of item-not-founds
was further reviewed to determine if inventory had been addressed
and properly controlled. It was determined that there were insufficient
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controls for the inventory.
When we asked for additional records for descriptions, they
weren't available, and the department couldn't reconcile inventory.
There are no policies or procedures for inventory or for systems
review within the department. Revenue's been allocated to the wrong
cost centers as well as the wrong funds.
The class journal listing report improperly calculated sales tax.
With further review, we identified it's limited to that report, but the
report not calculating should have been detected in reviews.
The cash register opened for noncash transactions, like credit
card transactions, and the policy for deposits had conflicting language.
Our overall recommendations for the review is that the no-sale
features should be properly controlled; limiting access and providing
each user a unique ID and a password; written policies should be
implemented to control, track, and monitor the inventory; revenues
should be allocated to the appropriate funds and cost centers.
The department's gone back and done corrective entries for the
revenue allocations for the period. Deposits should be completed daily
and in accordance with the policies, and all Florida Statutes and
county policies and procedures should be followed.
We're still concerned over the lack of controls and the exposure
to risk for this location. The department doesn't have sufficient
mechanisms to control, track, or monitor inventory or computer
systems, and the department's working to ensure that proper
controls/procedures are implemented to correct the issues.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you.
Commissioner Henning?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Leo?
MR. OCHS: Yes, sir.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: How many other facilities do
we have like this that we're selling goods; do we have any at all?
MR. OCHS: We have several, sir. North Regional Park, for
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example. The regional park has a conference center where there's
some sales of souvenirs and other items, for one.
I'll ask Mr. Williams to give you a more complete list, sir, if
you'd like.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah. If I recall from the last
time -- Megan, I don't have any questions for you. I do want to thank
you, though.
What I recall from the sales is very, very minimal sales at this
location.
MR. OCHS: Yes, sir.
MS. GILLARD: Approximately $18,000 through the
point-of-sale system.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: A year?
MS. GILLARD: Yes.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: And I'm sure the employee, and
probably more than one employee there, makes a heck of a lot more
than $18,000 a year.
MS. WILLIAMS: Commissioners, Barry Williams, parks and
recreation director.
Commissioner Henning, you're absolutely correct. We are
evaluating these locations where we're doing these little retail sales
operations and evaluating them to determine if it's cost effective for us
to do it.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: I think you need to evaluate
what the mission is of parks and rec and what kind of service you
should be providing. Retail sales, I would really question that.
MR. WILLIAMS: Yes, sir.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: However, with the marinas that
we had out there or -- those you're providing a service in those retail
sales, that is a benefit to the community.
I'm not sure if these outlets that we have at the parks, the
recreational parks, is a service that we're providing or if it's there to
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create revenue, okay. But that's the day-to-day operation that I have
nothing to say so about that. But I would hope that it would be
evaluated, and let's get to the core mission.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: I think you're absolutely right,
Commissioner Henning.
I think we need to evaluate not only these gift shops but all the
gift shops and all the shops and all the food concessions we have
through the county and really evaluate to what extent we should be
engaging in these operations and to what extent we should be farming
them out or to, as you point out, maybe make a decision of not provide
the particular service because the demand isn't there, and so why have
it.
I mean, as an example, you know, you could have a few limited
items that are memorial related online, for sale online, and not have to
deal with something like this, if that's even a consideration that would
be contemplated.
So we need to look at the totality of how we are providing these
services and decide if we shouldn't either outsource or stop altogether
in certain instances.
MR. CARNELL: If I could, Madam Chairwoman; Steve Carnell
on behalf of your public services division.
My office is engaged -- in cooperation with Barry and with other
departments in my division, we're actually doing that very analysis
you just described right now.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Great.
MR. CARNELL: We're looking at all of our points of sale, all
places where we collect cash presently --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Like, for example, Freedom -- not
Freedom Park, but North Naples. North Collier had the, you know --
MR. CARNELL: Oh, absolutely.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: -- the crime, if you will, that was
committed where funds were being embezzled from, I believe, the
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food concession.
So, you know, we need to -- I'm so glad to hear that you're doing
that. I don't think we really need to have much more discussion on it.
I think what we would appreciate as a board is you coming back to us
and giving us a comprehensive picture and explaining to us, you
know, what your recommendations are and why, and then we can go
ahead and see if, from a policy standpoint, it really is or isn't serving
the public.
MR. CARNELL: We'll be happy to, and we're on track to do
that.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you. Does that work for you,
Commissioner Henning?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah, that works.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: That's great. Thanks.
Commissioner Nance?
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Yes. I would like to commend you
for the transition you made with the marinas. I think privatizing these
services is going to be a lot more cost efficient for parks and
recreation. It's going to allow the services to get to the public. And I
believe that if it's market driven by the private sector, that they will
provide the services to the public better and, you know, what the
public wants, because they'll make it their business to do so.
And, you know, if they're fabulously profitable, they can share
some of it with parks and recreation. I would encourage you to do
that, and I think what you did with the marinas was very, very good
and went ahead and made it possible for us to staff the Eagles Lake
Community Center and South Immokalee Park additions at no extra
cost to the taxpayers. So I will thank you for your effort in that
direction.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And it definitely has been working.
I was over at Wiggins --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: It was me that started that.
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CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: -- and it was absolutely fantastic. I
mean --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Did you buy some shrimp over
there?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: No, I didn't buy any shrimp, but I
did speak to the lady who's actually managing that facility through our
company that we have contracted with, and everybody that I have
heard that is using that facility is very pleased, and she's very pleased
working there, and their shop looks great, and it all would seem, you
know, to be a good thing.
And next time I go back I'm getting shrimp. Is it bait, or is it just,
like --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Well, it depends --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: I'm just curious.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: It depends on your luck.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: I mean, at what point? What point
shrimp are we talking about here?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: If you don't have good luck that
day, you can always take it home and throw it in the frying pan.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Got it.
Okay. Commissioner Fiala?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yeah, I don't usually like to take
credit for anything, because I figure let everybody else take the credit
for it. It's okay, just as long as it gets done. But in this particular
instance, I am going to stand up and say we were having problems at
the different parks with trying to keep it staffed and, not only that,
keep the hours open, and I suggested to very, very open people that
maybe we needed to outsource.
We worked together, and that's why you see it done now. And
it's worked so beautifully for us, and the nice thing about outsourcing
-- and I'm not usually a great proponent of outsourcing, because
usually it works better in-house, but in this case they actually had their
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finger on the pulse of things, know what each area needs, and
responds to that, even with the hours.
So I just want to say, good job, well done. Thank you.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Okay. So I'm going to -- I don't
ever like giving the Naples Daily News credit, because they really
don't deserve it, but in this case, I will say a starfish for Commissioner
Fiala, a starfish for our staff, and even a starfish for Leo. So that's
three starfish, and no coconuts. Okay.
MR. OCHS: Very nice.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Just FYI.
MR. OCHS: Commissioners, we look forward to bringing back
that analysis and report about all of our point-of-sale operations.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: That's probably over our ordinance
limit for starfish, though, isn't it, on one item?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: I don't even think we have an
ordinance for that. That could be completely illegal.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: It's a workshop.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: It's a workshop.
MR. OCHS: Thank you, Commissioners.
Item #11A
ACCEPT REPORT AND RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING
POTENTIAL LOCATIONS FOR RADIO CONTROLLED
AIRPLANES, BOATS AND CARS WITHIN THE COLLIER
COUNTY PARKS SYSTEM. - MOTION FOR STAFF TO WORK
WITH MODEL AIRPLANE AND YACHT CLUBS FOR AN
AGREEABLE LOCATION (PREFERABLY NORTH COLLIER
REGIONAL PARK) AND BRING BACK FOR BOARD
APPROVAL — APPROVED
MR. OCHS: Madam Chair, if we move on, then, on Item 11A
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under county manager's report. This is a recommendation to accept
report and recommendations regarding potential locations for
radio-controlled airplanes, boats, and cars within the Collier County
park system.
Mr. Williams, your parks and rec director, will present.
To refresh the board's memory, this was a directive previously
given by the board to do this analysis and come back and report up to
the board.
Barry?
MR. WILLIAMS: Yes, sir.
Commissioners, Barry Williams, Parks and Recreation Director.
Just a real quick presentation, if I may. Just in terms of what Mr. Ochs
had indicated, that you did ask us to come back and look at potential
locations for some hobbyists that we know of in our community, folks
that use remote-control cars, airplanes, and boats.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Can I make a suggestion? I see that
you have 15 pages in this, which doesn't sound like a short
presentation. And while this is an interesting issue, I'm not sure that it
warrants --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: What's the punchline?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Right. Can you get to the
punchline? Give us --
MR. WILLIAMS: Absolutely.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: -- the options.
MR. WILLIAMS: Yes, ma'am, absolutely.
Commissioners --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: But thank you for the work. I mean,
scanning it I could see it was very well done.
MR. WILLIAMS: Thank you very much.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: It's very appreciated.
MR. WILLIAMS: Commissioners, we have some options. With
the cars, what we'd like to suggest is we're not quite sure if the users
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out there are interested in such a thing.
We used to have a location at Golden Gate Community Park.
What we'd like to do is to reach out to those users, see if there is an
interest. We have a location that we could install something, but we're
just not clear if there's a demand for that.
For the boats we've got three options. We've got Sugden,
Vineyards, and North Collier Regional Park, those three locations.
And the Yacht Club has come to Parks and Rec Advisory Board.
They have voted to support them. So it's just a matter of us getting
with them and coming to an arrangement for them to use one of those
three locations.
The planes are a little more difficult. We have a current
relationship with Collier County Model Airplane Club. They fly out
of Manatee Park. It's a 60-acre undeveloped piece of property.
They have a couple of issues that they're dealing with. One is
neighbors. And Commissioner Fiala's done a great job in working
with Fiddler's Creek and that group and kind of resolving some of
those issues.
They have voted to fly at certain times, certain airplanes. They
fly electric planes which aren't disruptive to the neighbors. So the
electric planes are able to fly at Manatee. We have a month-to-month
relationship with them, but the only thing that would drive them out is
if we develop Manatee Park, and we don't currently have funding for
that.
The bigger issue is the gas-powered planes. The gas-powered
planes, large wing span, noisy. Finding a location for them is a tough
thing.
There are a couple places where they're flying now. The
fairgrounds. We could approach them about that possibility. We also
approached the airport in terms of potentially them flying at
Everglades City, and that's a possibility. There are some issues with
that in terms of working with the airport and making sure there's no
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conflicts with the planes that use the airfield, but there is a -- there is a
possibility there.
What we're asking is to direct staff to pursue an agreement with
the boats for a place at one of these three locations; for the cars, us
seek out whether there's interest in that and look at -- develop that
location at Golden Gate; and then continue to work with Collier
County Model Airplane Club to look for a location for the
gas-powered planes.
With that, I'll stop and see if you have any questions.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner Nance?
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Yes. I will say we had a very
interesting conversation with Mr. Casalanguida the other day from
growth management who was saying that he was seeking to evaluate
his wet and dry detention areas for possible multiple uses, since we
seem to have a lot of these in some places, and some of them may --
particularly the wet detention, if we have lakes and so on and so forth
that we have that are part of our transportation system and are remote
enough that they -- you know, they don't bother anybody, perhaps we
could double dip and utilize some of those for some of the -- some of
the minor uses we have, such as fishing or radio-controlled boats or
something of that nature.
And I think he's considering that at present, so that would be
something good that we could also look into.
MR. WILLIAMS: Absolutely.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner Fiala?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes. First of all, I think those are
good suggestions, and I'd like you to pursue it.
I was wondering, we have a huge area at the landfill that isn't part
of the working process at the landfill right now, and -- which wouldn't
be flying in anybody's airspace and it certainly wouldn't be
interrupting any homes or anything. And I was wondering if you had
ventured into that area to take a look at that. And if not, if possibly
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you could add that to your list of potential sites.
MR. WILLIAMS: Absolutely. We could certainly have
discussions with Dr. Yilmaz and see if there's some potential use
there, just as with Mr. Casalanguida, if there are some opportunities
there. Where there's lands that the county owns and that can work,
certainly we'd be interested in that.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yeah. I don't think we have
anything in progress right now to build a new landfill site on that
property, so we have, what, a couple hundred acres sitting there just
empty, and possibly that would be something that could be used.
Thank you.
MR. WILLIAMS: Yes, ma'am.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: There being no further discussion at
this point in time, would you like to go back and bring back a final
proposal that the board can work on and consider? Because it doesn't
seem to me like right now you have anything we can actually vote on.
MR. WILLIAMS: If you were to give direction for us to make
an agreement with the Yacht Club for one of the locations -- and we'll
explore --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: As far as the location for the Yacht
Club, I think what makes perfect sense is Sugden.
MR. WILLIAMS: Okay.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Well, that is a little bit of a problem,
though.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Why is that?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: And Barry could tell you about that.
They've got the boating there for the handicapped kids that fly -- you
know, that work on certain times, and they have a lot of volunteers
that work with these kids. They also have the water ski show that also
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Right.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: -- limits what the boats can do.
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CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And I'll say this: I think all the
parks have different activities that need to be considered, so --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Except North Naples. They have
good -- they have a good area there that the boaters could --
MR. WILLIAMS: North Naples would be our recommendation
to work with the Yacht Club, but we can certainly --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: What affect would that have on the
neighbors and noise? And I'd like to see this activity restricted to
certain hours of certain days --
MR. WILLIAMS: Absolutely.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: -- because I don't think it would be
appropriate to have it ongoing. And, again, I want to know what the
noise impact would be --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: For the boats?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Yeah, to neighbors if there's any
proximity.
MR. WILLIAMS: The boats are minimal. I think that -- and our
experience has been -- and these remote boats, they don't make a lot of
noise. They're sail driven.
And I will show one photograph, if I can, and just show you --
this is the area that we're discussing in terms of potentially for the
Yacht Club. This is a stormwater retention pond that we've worked
with South Florida Water Management. There was a question a couple
of years ago about us using it for recreational use, and we got a
positive response from South Florida Water Management on that.
We use it -- people come there now and use it, catch and release.
There's fish there. They do use it for remote control sails -- sailboats.
It's not an organized group, but we do have a couple of people that
will put their sailboat in there.
The beauty of this location is the parking. We do have adequate
parking. I think that's a consideration for the Yacht Club. I think
always is the location of where we locate these things, at the north end
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of town.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: That's fine. How many people do
you think will be using this facility for that activity?
MR. WILLIAMS: The Yacht Club -- I'm not sure exactly their
membership. I believe it's less than a hundred. I don't know if
anybody's here representing them today, but I think -- it's not a lot of
users. The flying -- the guys that fly the planes, we're talking about
125. That's about the number. So it's a small niche group of
recreational users.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: But the only thing that we're talking
about for North Collier would be the boating?
MR. WILLIAMS: Yes, ma'am.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: That doesn't seem unreasonable.
MR. OCHS: And immediately to the south there, ma'am, on the
photo, that is all a hundred acres of preserve.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Right. I see that. And given the
location that you're identifying for this particular activity, it does make
sense. And, again, just look at it from the standpoint of scheduling it
during certain times because, for example, when we have a lot of the
-- you know, the baseball games and the soccer training and the
competition, I mean, these parking lots get so full, so try to work it
where -- I mean, if these people are predominantly retirees, they can
be more accommodating as compared to, you know, the working
families that are using this facility on the weekend for these type of
activities; obviously, the evening doesn't matter.
But North Naples does seem to work. I was thinking of Sugden
because of the proximity to the Yacht Club. So I figured these guys
would, you know, jump off one boat and then go and play with their
other boat. You know, just saying.
MR. WILLIAMS: Well, we could bring back an agreement with
those -- that group to you for approval if that would be acceptable.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: That's fine. That would be. But,
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again, with consideration of time.
MR. WILLIAMS: Yes, ma'am.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And day.
MR. WILLIAMS: That would be included in the agreement's
provisions for when they could sail and disruptions and that type of
thing.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: So -- and so then we'll just go ahead
and direct you to bring back a number of proposals with respect to
these activities and then --
MR. WILLIAMS: If you could provide direction -- three things.
One is direct staff to work with the Collier County Model Airplane
Club to find a location for them either at the Everglades City or the
fairgrounds or another location not determined; the second is direct us
to work with the Yacht Club, the boaters, to develop an agreement to
come back to the board with that allows them to use one of the
locations, North Collier being our preference; and then the third is
direct staff to reach out to the folks associated with the model remote
cars just to see if there's an interest in revisiting a location at Golden
Gate Community Park.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: So moved.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I'd like to make that motion. Oh,
you made it?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: I beat you, but you can second me.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Well, okay.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And if it means a lot to you, I'll
second you.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Okay. That would be nice.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Okay.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I would like to make that motion.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: I think Commissioner Fiala wants
another starfish.
MR. WILLIAMS: Love to give her one.
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CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: So give her the starfish. I'll take the
second starfish. And can I have two more starfish?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: All in favor?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: All in favor.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: I want a cherry on mine.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: (Absent.)
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: (No verbal response.)
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: All right. Motion carries
unanimously.
Item #11C
RESOLUTION 2013-149: A RESOLUTION EXTENDING THE
"IMPACT FEE PROGRAM FOR THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL
REDEVELOPMENT" TO JULY 1, 2014, BASED ON THE
CONTINUING INTEREST IN THE PROGRAM AND THE
ONGOING DISCUSSIONS RELATED TO COMMERCIAL
IMPACT FEES — ADOPTED
MR. OCHS: Madam Chairman, that takes us to Item 11C on
your agenda, which was a recommendation to approve --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Motion to approve.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Second.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: All in favor?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: (Absent.)
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: (No verbal response.)
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
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CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Motion carries unanimously.
MR. OCHS: That takes us to Community Redevelopment
Agency, Item 14B2.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Actually it takes us to 12A.
MR. OCHS: I'm so sorry. You're right.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: You know, on that last one, though,
I really wanted to make one little comment --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Go ahead.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: -- and that is, on the impact fees for
water and wastewater on existing commercial redevelopment -- and
then I know we've already voted on it; it went so fast I wasn't able to
insert that sometimes the impact fees, even though they're existing
buildings and have already paid an impact fee on water and
wastewater, they're paying it again, and sometimes it's so enormous,
that cost, that --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: But they're not paying it again.
They're not paying it again.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Oh, yes, they are.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: In this context, they're paying it
again?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes, ma'am.
MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am. The water and sewer impact fee is
exempted.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: It's exempted.
MR. OCHS: No.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: It's exempted from --
MR. OCHS: From the relief. It's paid.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: See, the rest of them, they don't pay
the impact fee on; the water and sewer they do.
MR. OCHS: It is paid, commissioner. It is paid.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: That's right. And so -- and
sometimes that's an exorbitant amount, and it will prevent a
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commercial business from moving into a place. And I'm thinking,
being that they've already been paid once -- and I realize we still have
water and sewer, especially when you convert an office from -- an
office use to a restaurant, for instance; there's got to be a fee, but
maybe it could be a greatly reduced fee is what I was thinking.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: I see your point. It was my
understanding that they were only paying the incremental impact fee.
In other words -- I'm sorry, that only the -- it was my understanding
the incremental impact fee was being waived.
MR. OCHS: For everyone except water and sewer.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: But why would we be charging --
we can't charge twice. I mean, once there's a hookup -- I mean, once,
you know, the impact is there and has been paid for at that base level,
how can we charge them again for something that was charged for
already once?
MR. KLATZKOW: You're charging for a bigger hookup.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: But, again, when you charge for the
bigger hookup, you can only charge for the incremental --
MR. KLATZKOW: That's my understanding.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: -- difference or waive the
incremental difference.
MR. KLATZKOW: That's what we do.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: But we're not. What I'm hearing is
is that you're charging for what has been paid for once plus the
increment. If you're -- what are you charging for?
MR. KLATZKOW: My understanding, the charge is for the
increment only.
MR. OCHS: Amy?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Are you being charged -- are you
charging for the increment, or are you charging the total?
MS. PATTERSON: Respective of water and sewer?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Yeah.
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MS. PATTERSON: The issue is an intensification of use. It's
only the incremental increase that's being charged. It's not -- we're not
charging them over again.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: So you're not charging them for
what the original builder paid for?
MS. PATTERSON: Right.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: You are only charging them for the
difference between what has already been paid and whatever the
intensification of use --
MS. PATTERSON: That's correct.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: -- has as an impact on the
community?
MS. PATTERSON: That's correct.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Which we're not doing in all the
other impact fee cases, only this one. And I believe -- and we've been
talking about trying to encourage commercial businesses and trying to
get our stock off the market, and that's -- and I'm just saying, maybe
this fee --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: This is not on the agenda.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: -- could be reduced.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: It's not on the agenda, and if
somebody wants to make it an executive summary, I think that would
be appropriate; however --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: I agree with that. I think if --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: It's not on the agenda.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner Fiala?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: No, it isn't, but I wanted to bring it
up, but it was voted on already.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: It's actually appropriate to bring it
up under 11C. And I think what you're proposing, Commissioner
Fiala, is that the exemption apply also to the incremental utility
impact. So why don't you just bring that back on the next agenda, and
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we can go ahead and adjust what's being proposed accordingly.
Because, in effect, what you're suggesting is that we expand the
impact fee program to incorporate utilities.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Or at least -- yes. And if they need
to have a utility impact fee because they're changing uses, maybe it
could be a modified one rather than an overpowering one --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Like 50 percent or 75 percent?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: -- because we're trying -- yeah,
something like that to encourage --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Whatever. Why don't you --
MR. OCHS: Madam Chair?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Let me bring -- let me suggest that
Commissioner Fiala bring back a proposal on the next agenda.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I won't be here for -- well, I'll be on
the phone, so I could do that.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Yeah. And we can address it at that
time, or we could, alternatively, address it at the time that we address
economic incentives.
MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am. I was going to suggest, your current
economic incentive programs all sunset in October --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: So --
MR. OCHS: -- of this year. So when you come back from the
break --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Why don't we do that?
MR. OCHS: -- we were planning to bring the new incentive
program that Mr. Register identified on your September agenda, and
perhaps we could bring this analysis at the same time --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Absolutely --
MR. OCHS: -- if you could consider that.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: -- along with other impact fee
waiver considerations that have been presented before the board to the
extent anybody wants them.
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MR. OCHS: Yes.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And that can be discussed.
MR. OCHS: Would that be acceptable, Commissioner?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Sure, it would. We're just trying to
encourage commercial, mom and pops.
MR. OCHS: I understand your intent. And we'll work on that
and bring it back in September if that works for the board.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you. So that motion was
carried unanimously.
MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am, it was.
Item #12A
THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO ADVERTISE TWO
ORDINANCES WHICH WOULD EFFECTIVELY MERGE THE
ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL (EAC) INTO THE
COLLIER COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION (CCPC). —
MOTION FOR THE CCPC TO BE MADE UP OF SEVEN (7)
MEMBERS, ONE (1) MEMBER REPRESENTING EACH
DISTRICT AND TWO (2) AT-LARGE TECHNICAL MEMBERS
(ONE WITH AN ENVIRONMENTAL BACKGROUND AND THE
SECOND WITH KNOWLEDGE IN HYDROLOGY) — APPROVED
MR. OCHS: I'm sorry. 12A, then, becomes 16K1.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: 12A, right.
MR. OCHS: And that was the recommendation to direct the
county attorney to advertise two ordinances which would effectively
merge the Environmental Advisory Council into the Collier County
Planning Commission.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: I'd like to comment on that. First of
all, I want to thank Commissioner Henning for bringing the suggestion
forward to, you know, introduce a more efficient and effective manner
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of evaluating these planning decisions that are coming before these
advisory boards and our board.
It certainly will be beneficial to bring the two advisory boards
together so that they can actually engage in dialogue and talk about
the environmental issues while considering the other planning
considerations.
But what I would like to say is that I prefer what Commissioner
Henning recommended over what the Planning Commission has
recommended. Because it seems that what the Planning Commission
is proposing is just expanding that board, which -- and I think larger
boards sometimes -- sometimes it's much more difficult to make a
decision on a particular issue. I'm not sure we need as many people as
they're proposing.
I would like to suggest that the restructuring be as follows, and
I'd like to make this a motion: That the Planning Commission be made
up of five members -- I'm sorry, seven members, that we have one
member representing each district, and that that member be appointed
by majority vote and, obviously, recommended by the commissioner
of that district, and that we add two at-large members that are
technical members, one representing -- I hate to use this expression,
but since we're talking environmental, bugs and bunnies, and the other
technical member being someone that has a background in hydrology,
because water is obviously the other very significant consideration in
our planning decisions. And those two members would be elected by
supermaj ority vote.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I second that motion.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you.
MR. KLATZKOW: May I just make one comment?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Yes.
MR. KLATZKOW: You may have difficulty finding somebody
if you narrow it to hydrology. That may be your preference.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Well, we can indicate it that it's as
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preference, if that's acceptable to the board. But, you know,
obviously, the two issues is, you know -- when you talk about
environmental issues, on the one hand you've got the animals and then
on the other hand you've got, you know, water.
MR. KLATZKOW: Oh, I fully understand the sentiment. I'm
concerned that you may not find a qualified individual, that you
should have the ability to --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: I actually -- you're not going to even
believe this, but I think one person who had approached and was
interested in sitting on the Planning Commission -- do you know Dom
Amico from Agnoli Barber? Are you familiar with him? He's the --
he's, like, a super water guy.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: There's a few of them.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And there are, like, so many people
out there who -- I mean, we've got so many people in our community
who understand water and who are sensitive to water. We have Judy
Hushon as another example of someone who has an understanding of
water.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Rick Barber, too.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: I mean, I think -- yeah, Rick -- he
works for him.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Oh, yeah.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: So you've got -- I mean, I think
you've got a lot of people out there with that. And let me just suggest
that if it doesn't work, let's just change it. But I would -- maybe using
your wording, you know, with a preference for -- but let's let
Commissioner Henning speak, because he was the one who originally
brought it forward.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Well, it's not expanding the
board. The Planning Commission existing, that have nine. But if you
want some efficiencies, you just appoint one member.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Well, we have to have an odd
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number.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: An odd number?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Yeah, in order to --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Well, one is an odd number.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Well, but we have five; it would
become six.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: I'm kidding.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Are you -- I'm vulnerable today,
okay? The Bruins lost last night. I'm sensitive. So do not -- do not --
be gentle, okay. That's all I'm saying.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Well, anyways, I can accept
what the Planning Commission recommended or what your motion is.
I think it makes a lot of sense.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you. Well, we have a motion
and a second on the table.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: I think one makes a lot of sense,
too.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Go ahead, Commissioner Nance.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Yes. I would just like to make one
comment, and I will say, I'm -- are we going to -- it is my
understanding that we are going to have a workshop to discuss how
we are going to better utilize our working advisory boards; is that not
correct?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: We --
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Now, wait a second. Let me
finish, please.
What I am saying here and a concern that I have is I absolutely
endorse that completely, but what I would like to do is I would like to
make sure, as we coalesce these advisory boards, that we do not lose
all of the rural input that we get.
And I think it's quite likely that when we examine these -- some
of these boards, we're going to find that some of the rural boards are
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some of the ones that are the ones that people don't pay attention to,
because there's so many more people in the urban coastal zone.
So I would like to lobby, when we have important and
overarching organizations like the CCPC, that we put somebody in
there that's supposed to look at agrarian and truly rural issues and not
just rural residential. And I think my district shares that, and I think
Commissioner Fiala --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And when you select your
representative for your district, you need to make sure that individual
represents the rural as well as the urban interests within your
community. We can't --
COMMISSIONER NANCE: That's hard to do. That's very hard
to do.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: It shouldn't be.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: But the good thing is that many of
the animals as well as flora and fauna issues are in rural areas rather
than in urban. And so you probably have one that will be there
anyway. And same with the water. I mean, that's where our water
sources are.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Well, you know, when half of the
people live in the Estates, it's a rural residential setting. It's not
agrarian. And it's -- it doesn't deal with the industries that we're going
to have out there with the concerns they have in an agrarian situation.
The Estates is not agrarian.
And, you know, you have a lot of agrarian things in your district,
and those are special. And what I don't want to see is I don't want to
see all our advisory boards that deal with those disappear because of
lack of interest, and we lose those. So I just wanted to make that
comment.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And we should definitely address
that. I think you make a very good point. Please don't let us forget
that point, Leo, when we come to the workshop.
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There being no further discussion on this, all in favor?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: (Absent.)
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: (No verbal response.)
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Motion carries unanimously.
So, County Attorney, you understand the board's direction, five
and two?
MR. KLATZKOW: Yes, and I'll bring back a proposed
ordinance. I'll advertise it and bring it back at the next meeting.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you. You're very kind.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Are we going to eat today?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: No, we're not eating. I don't eat
anymore. The Bruins lost. I quit eating last night.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Well, the morning crew with their
sporting events is noon, and it is now 12:11.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Okay.
MR. OCHS: Commissioner, you have one more item before --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And we have Jean Jouran here. I'd
like to adjourn at 12:15. I don't know how much discussion there will
be on this item.
Jean, would you like to step forward.
And would you call the CRA into session, please.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Yes. The CRA is now in session.
Item #14B2
THE CRA RELOCATING THE BAYSHORE GATEWAY
TRIANGLE CRA OFFICE TO 3570 BAYSHORE DRIVE, A 3-
YEAR OFFICE LEASE WITH 3570 BAYSHORE LLC, AND THE
CRA CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE LEASE AGREEMENT —
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APPROVED
MR. OCHS: Mr. Chairman, this is -- 14B2 is a recommendation
for the CRA to approve relocating the Bayshore/Gateway Triangle
CRA office to 3570 Bayshore Drive, approve a three-year office lease
with 3575 Bayshore LLC, and authorize the CRA chairman to sign the
lease agreement.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Move to approve.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Second.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Why can't the Immokalee CRA
get such a deal like that? Wow. Just kidding.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Call the vote, please. Can you call
COMMISSIONER HENNING: You're doing a good job, Brad.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Yes. Does anybody have any more
comments?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Well, I have one, but I wasn't
allowed to ask before, so I probably can't ask now, but I would like to
know what you're working on as far as progress goes and what the -- I
think all of our board members should know the vital role that the
CRAs play, and so --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Can I suggest something,
Commissioner Fiala?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: That's a workshop item.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: No.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: It's not a workshop. At the end of
every year, the beginning of the next years, the CRA actually prepares
an annual report where they let the board know what their
accomplishments are and what their goals and objectives are for the
next year. And that's coming up. Isn't that scheduled -- when is that
happening?
MS. CASERTA: It's normally in January or February.
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COMMISSIONER HILLER: Is it January or February? Do you
want to change the timetable on that and have an interim update?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Well, this -- it wouldn't have taken
but about five minutes. But that's all right. I'm going to let it go, but
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Not on the agenda.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: But I sit in on their meetings. I
know what they're doing, but I think all of you ought to know. And,
you know, we --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Send me an email.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: -- ought to all become familiar. But
I'm being rushed again, so just be quiet, same old thing.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: No. We have to -- first of all, it's
not on the agenda. And forgive me, but on the general agenda, we
have a time-certain at 11:30 (sic), and the commissioners have to go to
lunch. So -- and I said I wouldn't go beyond 12:15, so it wouldn't be
appropriate.
But I do encourage --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Sorry.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- what Commissioner Fiala says.
I think she's right; it should be brought forward. And maybe you can
provide us an interim report --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: We'll schedule an interim update for the
CRA activities.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Exactly.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: I think it would be appropriate, because
it's a fast-moving subject. And I would ask Mr. Ochs just to put that on
our calendar at some point, if that's agreeable to the members of the
board.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: No, just send an email.
MS. CASERTA: We would be happy to provide --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: But the audience doesn't hear it
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then, and I think they've got some bragging rights, and I think
audiences and --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: You have --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: -- citizens in general need to know.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: I'm watching. I need that gavel
back.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: I'm not going to give it back.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Hey. That's all right. I'm sorry I'm
being cut off.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: You're not being cut off. It's a
great idea.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Okay. That having been said, indicate
aye.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: (Absent.)
COMMISSIONER FIALA: (No verbal response.)
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Passes unanimously. And we will close
the Community Redevelopment Agency and restore the gavel to the
chair.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you. Just to conclude on
what Commissioner Fiala said, it's a great idea. It's not currently on
the agenda. The public should have notice if a report like this is going
to be presented. So the suggestion that it be brought forward as an
interim report on a future agenda, maybe when we come back after
this summer, to give us an update, is a very positive one.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Maybe Commissioner Fiala
could do that under communications.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I don't know what the CRA in
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Immokalee is doing.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: It's okay. It's not on the agenda.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Brad, you can talk to
Commissioner Fiala.
MR. MUCKEL: I'll be happy to.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Let me -- again, I don't want to turn
this into a discussion, because I did commit that we would terminate at
12:15 in order to be back, because we do have a 1:30 time-certain, and
there will be quite a few people attending.
Again, it should be publicly noticed. It should be included in the
backup so that the community has the opportunity to review it.
Let's schedule it for sometime in the fall, and then it will be an
interim report looking forward to a final report in January or February.
And with that, we're going to conclude for now to take a lunch
break, and we will be back at 12:15 (sic) -- I'm sorry, 1:15, and we
have a time-certain at 1:30.
(A luncheon recess was had.)
MR. OCHS: Madam Chairman, you have a live mike.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: This meeting is called back to order.
County Manager?
Item #10G
ACCEPTING THE RANKINGS FROM THE COLLIER COUNTY
PUBLIC SAFETY AUTHORITY REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS
(RFP) #13-6081 MEDICAL DIRECTOR AND DEPUTY MEDICAL
DIRECTOR AND DETERMINE FINAL ACTION. — MOTION
DIRECTING THE CHAIRWOMAN TO NEGOTIATE A
CONTRACT WITH DR. TOBER AS THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR
AND DR. LEE AS THE DEPUTY MEDICAL DIRECTOR —
APPROVED
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MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am. You have a time-certain 1:30 p.m.
hearing. It is Item 10G on your agenda.
It is a recommendation to accept the rankings from the Collier
County Public Safety Authority for Request for Proposal 13-6081,
medical director and deputy medical director, and for the board to
determine subsequent action.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you. Before we get started,
County Attorney, can you clarify for the board what action we're
taking so there is no misunderstanding. You know, obviously there's a
difference between the action we're taking today and the subsequent
action, which is contract related.
MR. KLATZKOW: Well, you're being asked to accept, you
know, the results that occurred with your board, and then to take
whatever action you feel appropriate.
If you decide to go with the -- I'm not sure I'll call it a
recommendation. But if you decide to go a different route with your
director, you can't hire him here. You would have to, in essence,
appoint one of you to negotiate a contract, see if you can come to
terms, and then bring that contract back for a public hearing and
discussion and a potential vote.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: So the decision here today is not a
final decision but the first in a two-step process. The first is the
selection of the candidate for medical director and the selection of the
candidate for the deputy medical director, and then at a subsequent
meeting a negotiated contract for each of those positions will be
presented to the board for approval.
MR. KLATZKOW: Assuming that you can get into a contract.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Negotiation.
MR. KLATZKOW: Negotiation, yes.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: But that there's a meeting of minds.
MR. KLATZKOW: Yes.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: So we're not actually hiring
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anybody here today.
MR. KLATZKOW: No, you're not hiring anybody today.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Okay. Thank you. How many
public do we have?
MR. MILLER: We have 10 registered speakers.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: What's the pleasure of the board?
Would the board like to hear the public speakers first before we get
into any discussion?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: So let's go ahead and begin with the
public speakers.
MR. MILLER: Your first public speaker is Eric Eskioglu. He'll
be followed by Edward Morton.
My apologies on the pronunciation of your last name, sir.
DR. ESKIOGLU: No problem, no problem.
Good afternoon, Commissioners. Dr. Eric Eskioglu. I'm the
medical director of the only comprehensive stroke center in Southwest
Florida, and I would like the commissioners to take in the
recommendations of the Public Safety Authority, which is made up by
a lot of smart citizens and also medical professionals.
And we are all -- I'm asking -- and this is for me and my patients
-- is we'd like to have an EMS director that is fair and that is not tied
to any interests or any hospital at this point.
Thank you so much.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And the recommendation of the
PSA, for the record -- County Attorney, would you like to give us the
results of the PSA recommendation for the benefit of the public that
might not have had the opportunity to view the hearing or, I should
say, the interviews and the vote by the PSA?
MR. KLATZKOW: Give me one second.
MR. OCHS: Commissioner, I can do that if you'd like. I have it
in front of me.
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CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Sure, of course.
MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am. There were two candidates
interviewed for the medical director position. Dr. James Augustine
received seven first-place rankings by the Public Safety Authority
members present, and Dr. Robert Tober received six first-place
rankings.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: So to summarize, the Public Safety
Authority has recommended Dr. Augustine as the --
MR. OCHS: He was ranked No. 1 among medical director
candidate. Dr. Tober was ranked No. 2.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Out of two candidates?
MR. OCHS: Out of two candidates, yes, ma'am. And then --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: For the position of medical
director?
MR. OCHS: That's correct, Madam Chair.
And then for the position of deputy medical director, there were
three candidates, and the committee ranked Dr. Jeffrey Panozzo as the
No. 1 ranked deputy medical director candidate; Dr. Richard Judah
was ranked second; and Dr. Douglas Lee was ranked third by your
Public Safety Authority for deputy medical director candidate.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you. And that's for the
benefit of the public so they know what the result of the PSA are,
which we are being asked to approve.
MR. MILLER: Your next public speaker is Edward Morton.
He'll be followed by Dennis Hidlebaugh.
MR. MORTON: Good afternoon. For the record, Edward A.
Morton. I speak here today on behalf of Dr. Robert Tober. I was a
former member of the PSA but could see clearly the political intrigue
that has intervened into what otherwise should have been a very
objective process.
I felt that the sophistry that was being practiced had undermined
the process to the extent that an objective decision could never be
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raised or could never be made.
I think the politics are very obvious. The editorial in the
newspaper called very clear attention to that.
And I am here to give my unequivocal support to Dr. Tober. The
reason why I withdrew from that process, which that vote would have
been, incidentally, 7-7, was to bring attention to the fact that this
process has become corrupted, and it needed to be brought to the
attention of people that -- someone who has put the kind of effort that
Dr. Tober has placed into this community for 30 years, and to see his
integrity called into question warranted, I think, someone taking a
stand and taking a position in defense of his integrity and his
commitment to this community.
So without any further ado, I would like to give my unconditional
support to Dr. Robert Tober. Thank you.
MR. MILLER: Your next speaker is Dennis Hidlebaugh. He'll
be followed by Janet Vasey.
MR. HIDLEBAUGH: I'm Dennis Hidlebaugh. I'm chief of staff,
Physicians Regional Healthcare System.
I'd like to make two points. The first point is that the
recommendation by the Collier County Medical Society president
recently to the commissioners is incorrect. The rank-and-file members
of the Collier County Medical Society and the board did not review
this recommendation, and the rank-and-file members did never -- did
never have a vote for that recommendation.
So I would like to -- my medical staff would like to counter the
president of the Collier County Medical Society's recommendation.
And that No. 2 is that we recommend that the PSA
recommendation should be followed. Thank you.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Meaning you're -- what are -- state
for the record who you are supporting so there's no ambiguity in the
interpretation.
MR. HIDLEBAUGH: Dr. Augustine.
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CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And for deputy?
MR. HIDLEBAUGH: Dr. Panozzo.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you.
MR. MILLER: Your next public speaker is Janet Vasey. She'll
be followed by Doug Fee.
MS. VASEY: Good afternoon, Commissioners. Janet Vasey for
the record.
While I'm a member of your Public Safety Authority, I am
speaking for myself today.
I have serious concerns regarding Dr. Augustine's suitability as
Collier County medical director. He is currently medical director for
four or five organizations in Ohio and Georgia, and he teaches in
Ohio. And my question is, will he be available 24/7 to Collier County
EMS?
Your own performance requirement for the EMS medical
director evaluation states, and I quote, county medical director or his
appointee shall provide continuous 24/7 medical direction to resolve
problems, system conflicts, et cetera.
This is what we're used to with Dr. Tober and Dr. Lee, and this is
what we expect in Collier County; people doing our job. To accept
less would reduce our current award-winning EMS service.
Dr. Augustine also had serious training deficiencies during his
tenure as medical director of the DC fire and EMS.
Paramedic training and excellent performance should be job one
for a medical director, yet nine months after Dr. Augustine's arrival in
DC, 92 of 95 paramedics failed an independently administered test by
the University of Maryland using national standards for entry-level
paramedics.
In Collier County we expect paramedic training that is second to
none, and we get it. Dr. Tober requires his paramedics to pass
rigorous one-on-one testing with him personally before they are
accepted as Collier County EMS paramedics. Anyone surviving this
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process is considered Toberized.
Patient care comes first in Collier, and poorly trained paramedics
do not come in contact with EMS patients under Dr. Tober's
leadership.
Dr. Tober's been an excellent EMS medical director and should
continue in that capacity. Under his leadership, Collier County EMS
has been identified best in the state and best in the nation.
And just six months ago, EMS received national accreditation, a
feat achieved by only 150 EMS systems in the entire U.S.
Dr. Tober has received numerous honors. He's been Physician of
the Year several times. He's one of the top 10 innovators in EMS per
the Journal of Emergency Medical Services, he has a Lifetime
Achievement Award in emergency medicine, and EMS Medical
Director of the Year for the State of Florida.
You clearly have the best medical director in Dr. Tober. Please
allow him to continue providing us world-class service.
Thank you very much.
MR. MILLER: Your next speaker is Doug Fee. He'll be
followed by Jim Gibson.
MR. FEE: Waive.
MR. MILLER: Doug Fee will waive.
Jim Gibson will be followed by Carlos Portu.
MR. GIBSON: Madam Chair, Commissioners, Jim Gibson, for
the record.
I'm not a particularly articulate speaker, but I do feel strongly
about the need to retain Dr. Tober. Perhaps my best course is to cite
briefly from the Naples Daily News editorial of June 23rd entitled,
"Keep skilled medical leadership at the helm of Collier County EMS."
For the past 35 years, Collier EMS has had Dr. Tober at the helm
of its medical policies and practices. In that time, under Dr. Tober's
leadership, Collier EMS has earned national and statewide honors for
excellence and pioneering with strokes and heart attacks. Even when
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the ratings involved surprise visits by outside regulators, Collier EMS
excelled.
All the extraneous issues surrounding this retention question
aside, the sole issue in question should be public health and safety.
The title of the position in question is medical director. Medical
director. That is Dr. Robert Tober. Thank you.
MR. MILLER: Your next public speaker is Carlos Portu. He'll
be followed by George Dawz (sic).
DR. PORTU: Thank you, Commissioners. For the record, Dr.
Carlos Portu.
I want to thank you all for the opportunity to address you today
on a topic that truly, I think, impacts the health and well-being of
many of our residents here in the county, myself being one of them.
I was recently upset and dismayed at the letter of support sent to
both you and the Naples Daily News by Dr. Pagliaro, presumably on
behalf of the entire Collier County Medical Society membership. My
disappointment stems from the fact that at no point at any time during
my last three years participating in the Collier County Medical
Society has there ever been an open discussion about our county's
medical director or his ability to actively and appropriately perform
his job duties.
I consider myself rather involved in the medical community. I
have a large medical practice. I'm on the board of directors for a
60-physician group in Collier County. I chair the department of
medicine for one of our two healthcare systems within the community,
and I like to participate in our civic duties, yet at no point was this a
discussion that was ever brought up as part of the medical society.
No emails, no online poll, no phone call, no mention of the issue
until this letter of supposed support was sent to the news press.
Needless to say that the statement of Collier County Medical
Society was more the opinion of a few board members or a president
as opposed to that of our physician community.
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Quite frankly, I respectfully disagree. From the perspective of a
physician who has worked hard to expand our healthcare system
throughout the community bringing quality, affordable and effective
healthcare to thousands of people, many of whom inhabits part of our
community that is not particularly well served by different parts of our
healthcare system, I found Dr. Tober as a medical director to be a very
poor choice. He has been nothing but an obstacle in our quest to bring
innovative services, lines, and nationally recognized care to our
county.
Of what benefit is a leader who creates divisiveness and strife
without -- doing very little to expand quality services in our
community?
I think the testimony you've heard so far is pretty obvious what
the issue is, is that here's an individual, though rightfully probably
qualified, creates a divisive atmosphere that doesn't lead to a cohesive
healthcare community, and it's something that's very important going
forward, particularly given the challenges that we'll be facing as a
country in the healthcare system.
So I'd encourage you to think of all the perspectives here, not just
necessarily the resume of one particular candidate versus another.
Okay. Thank you.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you.
MR. MILLER: Your next speaker is George Dawz (sic). He'll
be followed by Ron Myers.
MR. DANZ: Madam Chair, Commissioners, my name is George
Danz. I'm a citizen, 813 Charlemage Boulevard. I'm retired from
Broward County where I served as director of emergency services for
many years and also director of the Broward County Trauma Agency.
I am not a member of the public safety committee, but I have
attended all of their meetings, and I have been impressed with their
process.
Dr. -- or Mr. Morton brought up about if he had stayed on, there
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would have been a 7-7 vote. The process is not perfect, but I think you
have a rounded group of individuals there that are interested, involved
in EMS in Collier County and have a lot of expertise.
I think there's several members of Collier EMS who work
directly for Dr. Tober, and I guess if I was on that committee and
worked for Dr. Tober, I would certainly know how I would express
my views and vote in that open public meeting.
However, I think you've got a good system. I think you have a
good committee, and I think you ought to take the recommendation of
the public safety committee, or either disband the committee, either
one.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: So you're recommending Dr.
Augustine and Dr. Panozzo?
MR. DANZ: Yes, ma'am.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you.
MR. MILLER: Your next speaker is Ron Myers. He'll be
followed by Mike Murphy.
MR. MYERS: Madam Commissioner and Commissioners, I'm a
full-time resident, fairly new to the island.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Could you state your name for the
record.
MR. MYERS: Ron Myers.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Ron Myers. Thank you.
MR. MYERS: I moved here a year and a half ago. And I spent
most my life in the private ambulance sector. And I'm a former
president of the Ohio Ambulance Association, the American
Ambulance Association, and I've spent three years on the governor's
EMS Advisory Board in Ohio with Dr. Augustine.
I'm here to endorse him. I've worked with him. He is absolutely
fantastic. And my observations about how this county system's going
-- I've been in 25 systems, I sold our company -- my partner and I had
two large companies, one in Houston, Texas, and Northeast Ohio -- to
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a national consolidator, and I went into several other companies to
look around, and this is really a franchise model here, exclusive,
without a competitive bid.
And part of the things that I hear are routing of patients and
concerns over fairness of distribution of patients. Dr. Augustine, I
endorse. He has no affiliation with either hospital. And one of the
criticisms, I heard he's not available. He said he would give up some
of his other responsibilities to stay here.
I appreciate it.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you.
MR. MILLER: Your next speaker is Mike Murphy. He'll be
followed by Nancy Lascheid.
MR. MURPHY: Good morning, Honorable Commissioners and
general public. My name's Mike Murphy. I'm the fire rescue chief on
Marco Island, and I'm also a member of the PSA for disclosure
reasons.
First off, I am very proud of the volunteer advisory boards that
you've created in this county, and I've had the opportunity, and a
number of citizens, to serve on those boards. And we take it very
seriously. We dedicate a lot of time.
It's a difficult process, and this question was very difficult in
reference to, again, politics and everything else aside.
I think the process that the board went through and vetted -- and
we vetted the process, sent it back to you and brought it back to the
board again. The process they went through was to be -- is and should
be respected. That board did take the time, they answered the tough
questions, the candidates took the time, they came before you, or it
came before us. We went through that entire process, and it was
difficult, it was informative, and a selection was made.
This candidate is one of three candidates, I believe, that are direct
reports to you. The office of the medical director answers directly to
the County Commission. And as we went through that process, we, as
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the receivers and the people out there, actually tried -- who use the
services, tried to get all the questions that you might not have all the
technical knowledge to ask and get it on the board and get it on record.
The candidates that went through it, I think there was a -- that
direct process -- we went through the interview. You need to find out
how this person fits with your philosophy, each one of you
individually, over the next five years; you need to give the process the
respect that it has, and take the selection, interview the candidates, ask
them what they want for the next five years. You're talking a potential
five-year contract, and it shouldn't be based upon, oh, what have we
done in the past or some negative comments somebody says, but it's
how this person aligns with your goals and your objectives and what
you think and expect that person to do over the next five years.
I really believe -- I think it's disrespectful, number one, to the
PSA, to not at least recognize the list that they came up with. It was
vetted, it was argued, it was discussed, and the candidates were rated
just in accordance to what you had asked, and we did that. And then I
think you need to take the time to interview these individuals, and that
selection, you need to choose the leader of who you want to take this
system even further over the next five years.
There's changes in Medicare, Medicaid, there's billing.
And the last thing I'd like to say is, state law indicates that a
medical director acts as a liaison to EMS, training agencies, and
emergency rooms and emergency facilities. And who is that person
that you would like to have sit in that position?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: May I ask how you voted on the
PSA?
MR. MURPHY: I voted for Dr. Augustine and Dr. Panozzo.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you.
MR. MILLER: Your next public speaker is Nancy Lascheid.
She'll be followed by Erica Henson.
MS. LASCHEID: Thank you. I'm Nancy Lascheid, and I am a
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nurse. I am here representing myself and my husband to speak to the
credibility and skill level of Dr. Tober.
I've worked with him now for 15 years side by side, and I've been
with him in emergency situations for our patients at the Neighborhood
Health Clinic.
I strongly endorse Dr. Tober to continue as your medical director.
I understand you wanted to look to see what was out there. You
looked. It doesn't get any better. I encourage you to select Dr. Tober
and Dr. Lee.
Thank you.
MR. MILLER: Your final public speaker is Erica Henson.
MS. HENSON: Good afternoon. My name is Erica Henson. I'm
a lifelong Collier County resident, a lifelong Neapolitan, a nurse with
35 years of experience in critical care and emergency care, and I'm
here to endorse Dr. Tober.
As some of you know, I really dislike public speaking, so I'll
make it brief. This is not a public decision that should be made
lightly. It should not be made on politics. It should not be made on
who's friends with somebody. It's not first grade. It's not dodge ball.
We don't pick our friends; we pick the best candidate.
Dr. Tober and I have not always agreed on everything, but I
believe he is truly the best candidate for Collier County. He's brought
lifesaving medicine to Collier County, which stressed me out as an ER
nurse, so that we could go on the forefront of modern medicine with
clot-busting medicines here in the middle of Naples, Florida.
So my endorsement is for Dr. Tober, and I thank you for letting
me have the opportunity to address you today.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you.
MR. MILLER: That was our final public speaker.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner Henning?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Well, I read something different
in the Florida Statute than Chief Murphy does. The medical director
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must supervise and assume direct responsibility for the performance of
emergency medical technicians and paramedics operating for that
emergency medical system, and this being EMS. So, you know, he's
going to train, consult, write the protocol for our EMTs and
paramedics.
And I consider -- one of the things the Florida Statutes provides
is, contrary to what has been publicized, the physician can be
employed by a hospital that delivers medical hospital -- emergency
medical services, okay.
In this particular case, we're looking at somebody who is going to
train our EMTs and paramedics to deliver to a facility that has
emergency services there.
So that's what we should be looking at is who has the interaction
with the emergency rooms that our patients -- or our citizens are going
to. And, quite frankly, I only see two in all the applicants that we
received, both for medical director and assistant medical director.
Dr. Lee is affiliated with the Trauma Center in Lee County. I'm
sad to see that there's no -- there was no applicant from Physicians
Regional that has affiliation with their emergency services.
So I'm going to make a motion that we direct the chairman to
negotiate a contract with Dr. Tober and Dr. Lee. Dr. Lee being our
assistant medical director, and Dr. Tober being the medical director.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Is there a second?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: I'll second the motion.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner Coyle?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: I wasn't next. Commissioner --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I'll go next. That's okay. That's
okay.
One thing that I think we're forgetting to take a look at, that is
right now we as County Commissioners, all of us, have been strongly
encouraging the fire services to not only unite, but to consolidate with
the hopes, with the anticipation that we will then gift them with the
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EMS services so that that can be all one emergency service operation
working together hand in hand, always working together hand in hand.
And what we forget, and what has not been mentioned yet, is all
of these years Dr. Tober has worked against any type of consolidation
between fire. In fact, he's -- he's been actually -- let me say he's been
-- how do I want to say it nicely -- derogatory toward any fire service
and -- all through the years.
And I don't know what -- how we expect a different outcome
now than has been going on for 30 years. I mean, if he's not wanted to
work with the fire service before and yet we're encouraging that to
take place, how is he going to change now?
And so I cannot vote for him, I'm sorry. I have many other things
to say, but I'll let Commissioner Coyle -- by the way, they're both
outstanding candidates. Don't get me wrong. They're great
outstanding candidates. It's just that I think we need a new face on
this system, because we're designing a new entire department.
Thank you.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner Coyle?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Yeah. I think we should be
focused on finding the best qualified person we can find for our
medical director in Collier County. And, in my opinion, there are
certain fundamental requirements.
Number one, I believe that our medical director should be a
practicing physician in our community. I think he should be a
full-time resident of our community. I think that he should be
uncompromising in establishing standards of treatment and training
for the medical personnel under his supervision.
If that means conflict with fire districts, then that's what it means.
Every day of the week I will listen to a physician about medical
standards and practices rather than a fireman, and every day of the
week I will listen to a fireman when it comes to issues related to
fighting fires.
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And I have seen enough of the conflict here to know that
subordinating Emergency Medical Services to a fire district is the
worst thing that can ever be done. The fire districts are moving
toward consolidation now, but it is they who have refused it in the past
and were pushed into it only because of financial pressures.
They refused to participate with Dr. Tober in the ride-along
program to make sure that the fire districts' personnel were current in
the medical procedures.
Commissioner -- or Dr. Tober has been under constant criticism
by fire districts because they wanted to undermine his authority. And,
in fact, the North Naples Fire District has hired their own multiple
medical directors so they can get what they want without having to go
through the county's medical director. That is not the kind of
emergency medical system that we want or need in Collier County.
So if there has been friction, there is enough blame on both sides.
And I, for one, would rather have a medical director who is
uncompromising in medical standards rather than one that is seeking
to smooth over the political divisions by compromising on those
medical standards.
I think it is unfortunate that there has been so much emphasis on
market share between the two hospital systems here in Collier County.
We, as the Board of County Commissioners, have the authority
and responsibility to assure that that process is done fairly.
And I, quite frankly, don't care whether our medical director is
employed by either hospital. I would hope he would be employed by
one of them and -- because I think that validates credentials, and I just
cannot imagine a medical director who has to spend time in Atlanta,
Georgia, and in Ohio, and still provide medical direction for our
people here in Collier County.
So I believe that the medical director should be a servant of the
people of Collier County. He should not be subordinate in any way to
a fire organization. He should be a servant of the people of Collier
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County, and I believe that we have a winning team in Dr. Tober and
Dr. Lee.
We know what we've got. We know that Dr. Tober has received
national, state, and local awards for excellence in emergency medical
services.
So I don't know why we would like to change horses in order to
get an unknown team, a team that is not proven, a team that, in fact,
seems to have some difficulties in other places; but that can be argued,
I'm sure, from both sides.
And the issue of market share between the two hospitals, I have
-- I have gone through the process of establishing these protocols for
stroke alert patients in great detail, and the information that I have
been given clearly demonstrates that Physicians Regional has been
involved in every step of the way in developing those protocols and
training the people.
And the evidence indicates to me that our medical staff has been
diligent in assuring that those medical protocols are followed. And
with the exception of a couple of administrative problems, the division
has favored Physicians Regional.
Now, I've talked with Dr. Campbell or Mr. Campbell, and I know
there's a difference of opinion on that. And I would be happy to sit
down with representatives and try to work that out because, quite
frankly, our record looks as if Physicians Regional has had adequate
and timely input into this entire process, and there's even a meeting
scheduled, I believe, in July to review the most recent data.
So there appears to be an attempt to be fair in that process, but we
have the responsibility and authority to make sure it is fair. So
whoever we select, we will be able to do that.
So my recommendation is, we've got an award-winning team.
We've got a lot of bickering between EMS and fire districts but, my
personal opinion, it's because the fire districts do not want their people
to be subordinate to anybody else, and that is an understandable
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feeling.
When you've got people who have to respond to emergencies,
you need to consolidate responsibility and authority, and it is difficult
for them to deal with a situation where their people are being certified
by someone else not under their control, and that is understandable,
but it is one that cannot stand in the way of us maintaining the high
standards of medical treatment that we have established here in Collier
County. It is solvable, but we've got to get over it.
And that concludes my remarks. I support Dr. Tober and Dr. Lee
as a team that has very well served the people of Collier County as
exemplified by their many awards.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner Henning?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: I -- you know, at the last
meeting I brought to the board being a partnership or talk to East
Naples and Golden Gate about consolidation and bring recognition to
it. And prior to doing that, I sat down with the East Naples fire
commissioner, the chair, and Dr. Tober, and I said, this is what I want
to bring forward, and I want your input.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And may I ask, just for the record,
that you clarify who the East Naples fire commissioner was that you
met with.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: The chairman.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Jeff Page?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yes.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Okay. Just so -- because other
people out there don't know.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: There was no objection from
either gentleman of, you know, the county participating in that, in fact,
encouraged. In the past remarks that I saw from Dr. Tober, he was not
objecting to any consolidation of the fire departments in Collier
County.
So that's my understanding of Dr. Tober's position on fire
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consolidation is not trying to prevent them, but he has absolutely no
objection to it.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner Nance?
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Yes. I will say I've watched this
situation as a citizen and during my short period of time in service as a
commissioner, and I will tell you that, from my perspective, I think
this is -- this has been the -- one of the most difficult situations that
I've had to consider, and I think it's also one of the most disappointing
for me.
And the reason why I believe that the situation is in -- that we
find ourselves in this position, because of a great deal of self-interest
that's crept into this process.
I have met with absolutely dozens of people in this community in
all lines of work as professionals, seasoned professionals, first
responders, physicians, and all sorts of healthcare-related people that
have, of course, wanted to talk to me about resolving this issue, and I
will tell you that I have a uniform respect for all of them and what
they do individually.
But I find a stunning leadership vacuum among the
administrators of every entity in this discussion as far as moving to
make our operational situation better, and I can find fault with
absolutely everyone.
I think -- I think the intent has been to push issues in a direction
of self-interest, and I think that's a very, very sad situation.
I find everybody's positions unyielding, divisive. It's an
extremely rancorous situation. It's just not a very happy circumstance
that I find myself in or that this board finds itself in.
And the failure, in fact, is with the administration of all the
entities, including the medical director, that are supposed to find a
methodology to move forward towards greater performance to
safeguard public health and safety.
The fact that we have a premiere protocol clearly does not
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guarantee operational success. I think the fact that we're getting the
great results that we are in Collier County is on the backs of the EMS
staff and the fire staff in the field that are doing everything that they
can do to provide service in spite of the direction and lack of
leadership that they're getting from the administration of every entity
under concern.
And Dr. Tober does not -- is not lacking in that way. In my
personal discussions with him, I asked him if he was certain that he
could function in a manner that was going to lead us to be able to get
together in providing these services in a better manner and that my
hopes and expectations were in that direction.
So what the failure of the administration of all these entities has
done is come to this board and place the responsibility on these five
people who have no direct skills or knowledge on this subject seeking
a political solution to a management problem. I think that's absolutely
awful.
Because my fear is that if we -- if we take that route, and we take
a political solution to a management problem, that we will never ever
be able to go back again and make the proper decisions, and that is to
get together as professionals and figure out how to make this work.
That's all I have to say.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Any other comments?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yeah.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Go ahead, Commissioner Fiala.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: If I may.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Yeah, absolutely.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I've heard a number of the
comments, obviously, and I don't think anybody -- everybody has
mentioned how outstanding Dr. Tober is, but I don't think anybody's
really talked very much about Dr. Augustine. And I didn't know much
about him myself, to be honest with you, so I made it my business to
start looking in a little bit as to what he's done.
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And I know that he is a member of the medical directors
nationwide, worldwide association. I thought that was interesting. I
also know that he teaches once a year at Harvard regarding emergency
medicine. I know that he writes columns every month for Emergency
Medical Service World, which is a magazine that goes worldwide.
He's studying and working very diligently to build collaboration
between all medical services. And, you know, that's something we
really need right now, collaboration, working together, working as a
team, and I don't think we've seen that happen.
And it's always one side pitting against the other, and you're
never productive if you're always squabbling with one other. Look at
how hard our fire departments have wanted to keep the advanced life
services; it's taken away from them, of course, and that's why North
Naples went out and started their own because they were reduced to
basic life service instead of advanced life service.
And they felt that the residents, our people, needed to have
advanced life service. When they're on the spot, they need to be there
right away with all of the equipment needed, and they weren't allowed
to do that.
So I feel that I stand solidly behind a change; that change is Dr.
Augustine.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you.
I'd like to say a few words, and the first thing is I'd like to address
what the Naples Daily News said in their editorial. They incorrectly
stated that the reason I had brought this forward was for political
reasons, and it isn't. It has nothing to do with North Naples Fire.
I did receive a donation from that union, but I also received a
donation from EMS's union. In fact, as I've said before, I was very
honored to be endorsed by public safety across the board. I was
supported by fire, by EMS, and by the police, and there's a reason. It's
because I support all of them, and I support them all equally. They're
tremendous individuals in every way.
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And, in my opinion, the number one obligation of the Board of
County Commissioners is public safety. That is our duty. We are
here to make sure the public is safe above and beyond everything else.
And so that is why, through the course of my tenure on this board, I
have constantly advocated policies that promote the public safety.
And we, for example, through Mr. Casalanguida, installed a
different lighting system so we could be assured that our emergency
service vehicles can get through traffic and get a patient to care as
quickly as possible.
Our AUIR, which is our -- basically our level-of-service
standard, suggested that our EMS staffing was not adequate to allow
for our providers to get to a scene quickly enough. So we began to
approve ALS service through fire.
Commissioner Coyle made a comment that North Naples had
their own medical director. Well, they're required to by law. Any --
the statute is very clear. The statute requires that any organization, be
it public or private, that provides BLS transport or ALS services must
have their own medical director.
And the medical director of these institutions, again, be they
public or private, work to the statute and work to the standard that we
have set in Collier County. There is no medical director in Collier
County that works to a different standard other than the uniform
standard that we have established.
And they have worked hard to achieve that uniformity so that all
the citizens in the community have the same level of care when faced
with an emergency situation.
So, again, going to what the paper said, completely false and,
quite frankly, they need to retract. But what the paper does is they
veil everything in opinion and, because it's opinion, it doesn't have to
be fact.
The reason I brought this forward was the exact opposite of
politics. We have a process in Collier County where we require all of
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our contracts to go out to bid, and there's a reason for that. I mean,
could you imagine if we hired a road contractor and just gave him
every single contract to build every road in Collier County without
ever exploring if there was a better contractor out there or, in the case
of that kind of service, you know, the same level of service at a better
price?
It's our obligation as members of the board to ensure that when
we make a decision that we do look at what is out there in the
community, and what is out there in the community may prove to tell
us that who we have is, in fact, the best or -- for the benefit of the
public or, to the contrary, it might prove that there is someone out
there who is better.
Everything we do is in the public's interest. Dr. Tober's contract
was an evergreen contract. And my request to bring this forward to
consider that it be competitively let and allow for the community to
know that we do or don't have the best medical director was done
through the process that was approved by this board.
So there's nothing political. It is 100 percent intended to allow
the process to work for the benefit of the public to ensure that we are
making the best selection for the benefit of the public as it relates to
the role of the medical director and what the medical director does.
There were several other issues that were brought up, but I don't
think we really need to get into that. There was a letter received,
again, from two other doctors that indicated they couldn't be here. So
the board has received a copy of it when I received it, and it will be
entered into the record. It's from Dr. Zeitler, M.D., and Dr. Diorio,
M.D., and I'll just summarize, and it will be a matter of public record
so you can, you know, pull it and read it at your leisure.
But, in essence, it basically says that the -- well, should I read it?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: No.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: No. I won't read it. But anyway --
basically that the -- that they're responding to the letter sent on behalf
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of the members of the medical society, the Collier County medical
board, that they're actually board members themselves.
And they did not discuss -- they said that the qualifications of the
candidates were not discussed, et cetera, et cetera. But, essentially,
that, you know, the letter, as presented, doesn't represent the views of
them or the society.
Then they also talked about Dr. Tober's qualifications,
recognizing his -- that he's qualified as a doctor, however, that they
had a concern because Dr. Tober is employed by NCH Healthcare and
that that is -- that can be construed as a conflict of interest, as there is
more than one hospital in the system.
And so they asked that -- to discourage any semblance of bias or
favoritism of one hospital system over the other, they feel that, you
know, there should be independence and that Dr. Tober would need to
separate himself, or said another way -- and I'm paraphrasing this --
that the medical director should not be allied with one hospital over --
to the exclusion of the other.
And so they say that they could only endorse Tober if he
relinquished contractual and financial obligations with NCH.
So that's, in essence, what that letter says. So I'll just introduce it
in the record since they couldn't be here.
So in short, you know, from my standpoint, I don't agree with
evergreen contracts, and I would hope that when our purchasing
ordinance comes back to the board for approval that one of the
conditions in there makes it clear that, as a matter of public policy, we
will not support evergreen contracts because it is against the public's
interest not to go through the bidding process and, in this case, the
interview process.
This is a very difficult decision because, in my opinion, I think
every single physician that was interviewed is outstanding, they're
outstanding medical professionals, and they each bring tremendous
experience to the table.
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The point you make, Commissioner Fiala, is a very important
one, and that is that having someone who can unify and not divide
with respect to the issues in this county is very important.
And Dr. Tober has had, I would say, a very difficult relationship,
not just with fire but also with the other major hospital in the county,
which is Physicians Regional.
And so it's extremely important that whoever we recommend as
medical director gets along with everybody who services the EMS
system, you know, not only the multiple fire districts. You know, it
seems that -- it looks like he's developing a positive relationship with
East Naples, and that's nice to hear but, you know, it's been negative
with other districts, and we've got, you know, a positive relationship
with one hospital but it appears what looks like a negative relationship
with the other hospital.
And we need someone who can really work with everybody in a
positive way for the benefit of the public.
So like I said, I think very highly of Dr. Tober. I think he's done
some marvelous things, and I think very highly of the other candidates
as well, and I'm thinking very seriously about this decision.
So -- yeah, go ahead. Commissioner Nance.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: I think that applying -- I do believe
that this, indeed, since it's landed on the desk of the Board of County
Commissioners has become political beyond what's healthy for our
community. And I believe that the relationship that Dr. Tober
currently enjoys with Naples Community Hospital to the exclusion of
others is problematic. I believe the leadership vacuum from the
hospitals as well as the fire districts is no less problematic than Dr.
Tober's weaknesses.
At this point, I am going to support the motion with very, very
severe reservations for the simple reason that I do not believe there's
an alternate that is any better. I believe an alternative solution will
strictly be political, and it will gloss over and let the wounds that we
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currently have lie underneath the scab that will never heal.
That having been said, I can also not support a long-term contract
under an arrangement that is dysfunctional. So I will simply not
support a long-term contract if I'm forced to make that decision. I
think the contract should be very limited and give everybody a chance
to take a deep breath and do what they're supposed to be doing to
begin with, and that is getting together and working out this problem.
This problem cannot be worked out by this board. This is a ridiculous
-- absolutely ridiculous situation to put any one of these people in.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: If I may comment.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: I will -- I will be looking forward
to discussions on it, but I don't think that making a change that let's
everybody off the hook is the way to go. And I've thought about it.
I've taken it under very, very serious advisement. And what I'm
telling you is, I don't see -- I don't see honor anywhere -- and I'm most
upset with everyone.
So I don't know if that helps anybody out, but I'm going to
support the motion with very, very serious reservations.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: If I may say one thing,
Commissioner Nance. Commissioner Coyle would like to speak. But
I do want you to understand that we are obligated with making the
decision. You do understand that?
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Oh, I understand that.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Okay. Because you keep saying,
like, they're putting us in a --
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Oh, I just think it's a ridiculous
situation. I understand. I just told you what my decision was. I will
support the motion, but I find it very, very poor form on the
administrative leadership of everybody concerned. I think it's
ridiculous, and I think it's shameful.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner Coyle, and then
Commissioner Fiala.
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COMMISSIONER COYLE: Yeah. I have to share some of
those sentiments, but I would like to add something for your
consideration.
Some of these issues probably cannot be worked out without the
board's involvement. A competition between hospital systems here is
way beyond the capability of a medical director or EMS department.
I think the board needs to continue to work with the staffs of both
hospitals to sort out this differing, vastly differing interpretation of
facts, of data, I should say, because, depending upon what subset of
the data one presents, you can draw different conclusions, and we
need to clarify that, and we need to reach agreement between the two
hospital systems about how we should report these various
classifications and the reasons why we direct people to certain of the
hospitals for treatment, because that will help us refine our assessment
effectiveness.
And so I think that will also resolve this particular issue and give
Physicians Regional some comfort that there is no one who is trying to
assure that one hospital system benefits over another. And I think we
have that power and responsibility.
So with that, I would be happy to see the motion called.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner Fiala would like to
speak, but before --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Just a fast one.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Yeah, but I would like to just say
one thing. We have an ongoing investigation into the issue of the shift
of -- or the statement made about market share, and you had indicated,
Commissioner Coyle, that you have information on that.
Leo, when are you going to bring that forward? We've got the --
you know, you've given us the investigation on the Minnard case,
which the board still has to address. I mean, we've received it, but it
needs to be put back on the agenda and probably should be put back
on the July agenda, but that's more of an operations issue.
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And just one clarification, Commissioner Nance, the medical
director is not responsible for operations. The medical director is
responsible just for protocol and training and should not be involved
in operations.
But, Leo, when are you going to bring that investigation back,
since Commissioner Nance had -- and the board supported you doing
that internal investigation on that --
MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: -- market-share issue?
MR. OCHS: I was planning to bring that back in September.
You had asked me to not only touch base with the PSA and the
hospitals, but, you know, do my own review, and I want to make sure
that I cover all of those bases thoroughly for the board.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: The second meeting or first
meeting?
MR. OCHS: I don't know, ma'am. Whenever it's ready. It will
be no later than the second meeting.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Okay. That's fine then. I just
wanted to --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: You're not planning on taking a
vacation or anything, are you?
MR. OCHS: No. It will be a working vacation, yes, ma'am.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Cancel that trip to Vegas.
Okay. I just -- and maybe, if we could all have whatever you've
got on that investigation, Commissioner Coyle. You said you had
studied it yourself and you had information that showed there were no
issues, if you could provide that to the board.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: I didn't say it showed there were no
issues. The information tends to show that the information presented
by Physicians Regional at this board meeting last time was incorrect
and also outlines the number of meetings by date and the people
attending those meetings representing both Physicians Regional and
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NCH and our EMS personnel and what they did or accomplished or
agreed to.
So I'll be happy to provide that information to you.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: That's great. Provide it to all the
board and to Leo, and that would be the best.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Yes, okay.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner Fiala, and then
Commissioner Nance.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes. You know, I used to work for
NCH, right? I still have some great friends that work there or that are
involved there. So to me it's just about seeing these departments that
are in emergency medical services handling the job that our people
expect them. It doesn't make any difference to me, one hospital or
another. I'm just mainly concerned that our residents get the service
that they not only desire, but that they should demand for their own
health.
And Commissioner Nance said he feels this whole thing, the way
it's run right now is distasteful, ridiculous, and disgraceful. Then why
would you vote that way? Do you expect a different outcome if
you've got the same people running it and felt it was not right before?
That doesn't make any sense to me. But that's just a rhetorical thing to
say, I guess.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And I just want to ask one question.
Commissioner Nance, what is your opinion of the vote of the
PSA? I mean, the PSA is supposed to represent the community. And,
you know, I personally had said it should not go to the PSA, but you
and the other members of the board said it should go to the PSA, and I
was concerned about, you know, conflicts in the process, and you-all
said it was good. And now the PSA comes back, and the PSA's
recommendation is for Augustine and Panozzo, but you're sitting here
now -- after having said that the process properly should be that it
goes to the PSA, now you're saying the PSA should be ignored and
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that that process is no good and that we should disregard what the
PSA says.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: No. I'm not saying we should
disregard what the PSA says. The PSA was a 17-member board, 13 of
which voted. One of the people that voted was one of the candidates
for the deputy medical director. So the PSA --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: He didn't vote for himself, though.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: No, he voted for Mr. Augustine,
okay.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Is there a problem with that?
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Well, I think there is a relationship
between those two individuals. And what I'm saying is, to me, that's a
no decision. That's a tie vote or less than a tie vote. So I don't think it
was anything indicative that the PSA had any real strong feeling.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: How is it a tie vote?
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Had Mr. Panozzo, who is a
candidate, abstained, it would have been tied at six apiece.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Let me ask you this question.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: No, I really don't want to engage in
that conversation. What I am doing here is trying to say that I don't
believe that this board making a political decision is going to change
the workings of the ladies and gentlemen out here that are going to
have to make this thing work.
If they do not change their management style and learn to work
together, it's not going to get any better. We can have any medical
director we assign that will give one political advantage to one or the
other or a different. And it's not going to -- it's not going to result in
any better service to my district, I can tell you that. My district is the
most remote one, the ones where the service times are the longest and
the facilities are the scantest.
So I'm imploring the ladies and gentlemen and professionals,
each of which I respect -- and I don't mean to go on a rant here and
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imply to you that I do not respect you, because I respect each of you.
I am imploring you that you have to step up and you have to craft a
way to make this work.
This board cannot make you function together. And until you
function together, it's not going to get any better despite our best
wishes. We can select a new medical director every year; we're going
to find ourselves in the same situation.
So I'm sorry that Commissioner Fiala thinks that one little change
of one person is going to make a big difference, but I'm here to tell
you, look at all of you that are involved and tell me that any one
individual is going to make that change. It's not going to happen. It's
like Solomon trying to split the child in half. It will not.
So I am throwing the ball back in your court, ladies and
gentlemen. The citizens of Collier County are looking forward to a
referendum in the year 2014 to talk about working towards a more
cohesive, managed first responder system as a whole, and that's what
I'm expecting that they're going to continue to demand.
So you guys are going to have to step up. The decision is not
going to be made by this board. The decision is going to be made by
you. You can blame it on this board if you'd like, but seek your
hearts, and you know you're going to have to step up and get it done,
and that includes Dr. Tober.
Dr. Tober writes the protocols. We could have the best protocols
in the world, but if they can't be delivered at the date and time of the
emergency, they're not effective.
So he has got to craft, together with you -- I'm chastising all of
you together.
I call the question.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah, it's my motion. I think I
can call the question, right?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Yeah. You can't, but the chair can.
But I would like to make a response to a comment that was made
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that I think really needs -- is important. It won't take long.
Why do we make the same decision and select the same people
that have been responsible for the system not being functional and
expect a different result, okay.
It's real simple. We're keeping that portion of the system that is
the only thing that has been functional. The people who are
responsible for us having one of the best emergency medical systems
in the nation and the State of Florida are the medical director and all
of those people that the fire district and in our EMS departments who
are out there on the ground treating people in emergencies. Those
have been the only people that have really been making this system
work.
As Commissioner Nance has pointed out, there are a lot of people
at higher levels who want to build empires and want to manage things
in a different way and want to consolidate their control over things
that are causing the problem. And as long as we yield to those people
in creating our emergency medical system, we will fail, and we'll
continue to have this kind of disorder.
It's amazing to me that our EMS people on the ground have been
able to do such a wonderful job in view of all of this bickering.
So you're absolutely right, Commissioner Nance. What we're
doing is keeping the best part of what we have, I hope, and we're
challenging the rest of you to get on board, and that includes the PSA.
And I share Ed Morton's assessment of that. It is a failed
organization. Why is it a failed organization? Because we apparently
picked a group of people among whom were some that don't have the
backbone to stand up for principle. They want to avoid confrontation.
They want to avoid argument. They want to be nice to each other all
the time. And that's not how you get a good system.
You know, the old story about an elephant is a horse designed by
a committee --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: So I understand now why Coyle
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fights with me all the time. I didn't realize. I get it. That's how -- his
justification, it's for the good of the system.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: So the more we compromise with
things in committee-type work, the more distorted the process
becomes. So what we're really doing is keeping what's good and
challenging the rest of you to get on board and let's start working
together and get the job done.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: All right. We are going to call the
question. I just want to make one last statement just to your point,
Commissioner Nance.
I was the one who said the PSA had conflicts, just to make a
point. Mr. Dutcher is the chief operating officer for NCH. Mr. Tober
-- or Dr. Tober works for him. So, I mean, now we're back to 7-6.
So the point being is everybody disagreed with me, and I guess
now everybody agrees with me. I think it's kind of funny.
Okay. I'm going to go ahead and call the question, but I'd like to
suggest that we truncate the question because there are two separate
positions that are being considered here. The first position is that of
medical director. The second position is that of deputy medical
director. So I think we need to have two separate votes. There are
going to be two separate contracts.
We have a different structure now because we have bifurcated
the positions and, as I said, two separate positions.
So, Commissioner Henning, would you kindly amend your
motion so we have first a vote on the position of the medical director
and then we have a second vote on the position of deputy medical
director? And keep your motions the same but just do first -- you
know, your first motion is medical director.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Is there any debating this
motion?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: No. I mean, do you want to debate
it?
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COMMISSIONER HENNING: No new debate?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: No, I don't think -- I mean, we don't
have to.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: You know, I think we abused
this topic so much we better call the sheriff over here to do something
about it, but --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner Henning, I have the
-- we have not had any discussion --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: If we're not having any debate,
I'll go ahead and do that, make a motion --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And let me just confirm that nobody
wants -- because we haven't had any discussion about deputy.
Everybody just focused on the medical --
COMMISSIONER NANCE: I would support bifurcating it.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Okay. But let me ask this. Is there
any desire to have discussion on the second question, which is the
position of deputy medical director? Because we've only talked about
the medical director, even though the motion, originally as presented,
considered both.
Commissioner Coyle?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Well, there are some unanswered
questions in that respect, but I understood Commissioner Henning's
motion to be to support the existing team that we have, Dr. Lee and
Dr. Tober, and there's a good reason for retaining the team. They
work well together. They are both eminently qualified for the
position.
And if we are going to bifurcate them and bifurcate their
contracts as an administrative procedure, I see nothing wrong with
that. But if we're going to start thinking about having someone else be
the assistant medical director, one has to give consideration to the
authority of the medical director to direct his assistant, and that would
include, I presume, either dismissing him and asking for a replacement
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and/or recommending that person for retention in the future even with
a salary increase.
So those are things that we haven't really worked out, but I would
hope that we wouldn't have two medical directors, one a primary and
one an assistant, who both report to the Board of County
Commissioners, and then we would have to evaluate them both even
though they're working as a team.
So I don't think the board has considered that sort of thing. But if
the objective is to nominate both men, one as medical director and one
as assistant, I am certainly amenable to proceeding in that direction.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner Nance?
COMMISSIONER NANCE: No comment.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner Fiala?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: It's fine with me to bifurcate it.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: You want to bifurcate, but do you
want to have discussion on the deputy, or do you just want to --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Well, yeah, because we haven't
really discussed who we want, I mean, actually, by name.
Commissioner Coyle said keep them together, but we haven't even
discussed anybody's qualifications.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: What's your position, Commissioner
Nance?
COMMISSIONER NANCE: I'm ready to vote on it.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: On --
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Both of them.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: On both of them as one?
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Yes, ma'am. If you want to
discuss it, I'll proceed -- I'll support the discussion if somebody would
like to talk about it.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: My motion stands as stated.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Okay.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Yeah.
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CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: In that case, all in favor?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: (No verbal response.)
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Any opposed?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Motion carries 4-1, with Dr. Tober
and Dr. Lee being selected.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Can I go home now?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: We want to communicate with
you first.
MR. OCHS: Madam Chair, the next step, then, would be for
county attorney to present contracts and bring them back to the board
or --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: The next step would be to designate
the chair to negotiate the contract terms and bring those negotiated
terms back to the board for approval.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: You're going to work with the
County Attorney's Office, correct?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Always.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Always.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Always.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: It's just an assumption.
MR. KLATZKOW: May I just get -- may I just get a little
clarity, because Commissioner Coyle raised a very viable point here.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Yes.
MR. KLATZKOW: Is your deputy going to be separate?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Yes. We made that clear, and the
board approved that as part of their motion.
MR. KLATZKOW: So your deputy's not going to report to --
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CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: We can structure it that the deputy
reports to the medical director, but we have to have two separate
positions, because we can't have the situation we have -- we have
currently, which is one entity that basically hires both, and then
something happens to that entity, and we're with nobody.
So we have to have two individual contracts. We can,
organizationally, structure it that the deputy answers to the medical
director, and the medical director answers to the board, but we have to
have two separate contracts.
MR. KLATZKOW: At the end of the day, can the medical
director fire the assistant without your permission?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: No, no, absolutely not, and nor can
the medical director hire without the commission. The commission
both has the ability to hire and terminate, but in terms of answering
within the hierarchy, it's to the medical director.
MR. KLATZKOW: Okay. Thank you.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: The medical director could make a
recommendation to the board --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: The medical director can say
whatever they like to the board. I mean, that's their right. But at the
end of the day, we have to retain the ability to hire and fire the deputy.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: I'll support that.
Item #10J — Continued from earlier in the meeting
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO CONSIDER
AUTHORIZING THE CHAIRWOMAN TO SEND A LETTER TO
REGULATORY AGENCIES RESPONSIBLE FOR PERMITTING
AND REGULATION OF OIL EXPLORATION AND OIL WELL
EXTRACTION OPERATIONS IN COLLIER COUNTY TO
INSURE THAT COLLIER COUNTY CITIZENS; COMMENTS
AND CONCERNS ARE GIVEN CAREFUL REVIEW AND
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CONSIDERATION, AND THAT COLLIER COUNTY IS FULLY
INFORMED AND INTEGRATED INTO PERMITTING AND
MANAGEMENT REQUIREMENTS TO SAFEGUARD THE
LOCAL HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE, OF ALL COLLIER
CITIZENS — DISCUSSED; CONTINUED TO LATER IN THE
MEETING UNDER ITEM #15; MOTION TO APPROVE THE
PROPOSED LETTER AS AMENDED BY THE BOARD —
APPROVED
MR. OCHS: Madam Chair, if that concludes the discussion on
that item, we can move back to Item 10J, which was tabled until the
board had a chance to review the draft letter that Mr. Sheffield is
passing out and I will put on the visualizer.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Where does it say about
receiving public input? I thought that was the purpose. I mean, I
think --
COMMISSIONER NANCE: The third paragraph, sir. It's,
Collier County requests your agencies carefully and judiciously
review the comments and concerns of Collier County property owners
and affected citizen regarding the permitting in the vicinity of
residential properties.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: That's great.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Except that, you know, I think -- I
don't think we should be going into the specifics, you know, to -- you
know, they're required to ensure whatever they're required to ensure as
a matter of law.
So for us to tell them what they should or shouldn't do, I mean,
we haven't studied the law to know, and, you know, you may be
excluding some things, you may be excluding some things that's in
someone else's jurisdiction.
I think you -- what we discussed and agreed to this morning was
that those agencies -- and this is per your executive summary,
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Commissioner Nance, was that those executive agencies should --
were to be told via this letter that they should consider input from the
community, and should seriously consider it for obvious reasons.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: I would recommend that we strike
the second paragraph and leave it with the first and the third
paragraphs, if it's acceptable to the board. I don't think that that's
necessary or even productive.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Well, I think the proximity to the
Golden Gate Estates subdivision is an important statement.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: The first sentence, sir?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Yeah, and the second sentence, that
they receive their water from on-site wells.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Yeah, I think that, but I think we
expect your agency will ensure that -- I agree, I don't have a problem
with that.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Okay.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: But I don't agree with the telling --
COMMISSIONER NANCE: The other sentences?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Yeah, I mean, what they're --
COMMISSIONER NANCE: So keep sentences one and two,
Commissioner Coyle, of the second paragraph?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Yes.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Yeah.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: So, no. Keep one, then say, please
recognize that the location of the proposed -- da, da, da. Residents
receive their water from on-site wells, period. And then say -- don't
say Collier County also requests. Just say Collier County requests that
your agencies carefully and judicially review the comments and
concerns of property owners and affected citizens regarding
permitting and operation.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Okay. So you're recommending
that we include the first two sentence -- the first two sentences of
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Paragraph 2 only and strike the word "also" from the third word of
Paragraph 3 and send that as --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Yeah. And then the -- and then
there should be another paragraph where it starts, Collier County
further requests that your agency has established; that should be a
separate paragraph.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Separated. Okay. Well, we can
make the first two sentences of Paragraph 2 and the first paragraph
(sic) of Paragraph 3 the second paragraph, and then start the third
paragraph with "Collier County further requests."
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Yep. Is that acceptable to
everyone?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: That's okay with me, but I don't
have a problem with it the way it is now, quite frankly.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Okay.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: It's just clearer. It's better
articulated so you can see what issue ties with, you know, which facts.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: So we go back to the motion,
which is Commissioner Nance's motion, second by Commissioner
Coyle --
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Yes.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: -- to send the letter.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: I would like to thank the board
members for their support.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And once you've made those edits,
you'll circulate it so each member of the board can sign, and then
you'll send it off. Right, Leo?
MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thank you.
And just, in each case where you put each district commissioner,
state the district, so that the agencies know who represents which area.
MR. OCHS: Will do. So, again, just to clarify, the first
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paragraph stands as drafted, the second one strikes through the areas
that are struck through in Paragraph No. 2 and adds the first sentence
of paragraph -- current Paragraph 3 to become part of Paragraph 2,
then the balance of Paragraph 3 will begin right here and stand alone.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Exactly, exactly.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: And we'll send one of these letters
addressed to South Florida Water Management District to the
appropriate contact person and also the State of Florida DEP.
MR. OCHS: Yes, sir.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Thank you. I will make a motion
that we authorize the chairwoman and everyone to sign this document
as amended by the board.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: That's fine. Do I have a second?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Second.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Second.
All in favor?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: (No verbal response.)
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Just let me ask -- okay.
Leo, do you think this might be ready for me to sign before I
leave? I hate to do that to you, but I could come back. I have to run
home, get my suitcase anyway. Could I come back and sign it?
MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am. We'll work on it right now.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Thank you.
MR. OCHS: Thank you, Commissioners.
Item #15
STAFF AND COMMISSION GENERAL COMMUNICATIONS
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MR. OCHS: Madam Chair, that takes us to Item 15 on your
agenda, I believe, staff and commission general communications.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Leo, your comments?
MR. OCHS: Just a couple.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Are you waiting for next year's
Stanley Cup?
MR. OCHS: No, ma'am. It's too early. I'm going to celebrate
this one for a while.
Just a couple quick comments. This is a follow-up piece of
information that the clerk asked me to pass along.
We did reach out, both the Clerk's Office and Mr. Isaacson from
my office, to the Ernst & Young external auditors to see if they were
willing to renegotiate the price increase that they quoted us for the
next external audit. We were not able to negotiate down to a price that
the clerk nor I believed is fair and reasonable.
So I directed our purchasing staff to --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Put it out to bid.
MR. OCHS: -- reissue an RFP for those audit services.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Absolutely.
MR. OCHS: And that is going back out on the street. So I just
wanted to -- and that's with the concurrence of Mr. Brock and his staff,
so --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And don't forget to rebid the
assistance that we need with the grant restructuring.
MR. OCHS: Yes, the assessment of our grant program.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And it's absolutely essential that we
put that out to what was the big four and is now the big three, just
saying.
MR. OCHS: Okay.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: But we do want to thank our
auditors for many years of good service, and it's really unfortunate
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they jacked the price up. My understanding is they no longer want to
be in governmental auditing, and so --
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Can't blame them for that.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: But it's so much fun. I mean, all
that fund accounting and all the compliance work.
MR. OCHS: And the second item, I wanted to advise the board
that I received a letter last week from Mr. Mike Reagen from the
chamber advising me that the partnership for Collier's Future
Economy, which is a subsidiary of the Greater Naples Chamber of
Commerce, has incorporated as a separate 501(c)(6) corporation and is
reaching out.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: (c)(3)?
MR. OCHS: No, (c)(6).
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: What is a (c)(6)? Jeff, what is a
(c)(6)?
MR. OCHS: It's a 501(c)(6), business association.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Maybe they can be politically
involved.
MR. KLATZKOW: I'd don't know what a 501(c)(6) is.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Well, a (c)(4) is political. (c)(4) is a
PAC, but I'd like to know what a (c)(6) is.
MR. FEE: Economics.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Economics, he said.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Economics what?
MR. FEE: Nonprofit.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Oh, that's right. You're an
accountant. Why don't you come up and tell us. Look it up. Google
it. Wikipedia it, then come up and tell us.
MR. FEDER: That's what it is.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: It's -- I'd like to know.
MR. OCHS: Okay. I mean, the point of the letter is to express
their interest in working with the board and my office of business
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economic development as the private component of the public/private
partnership that was originally proposed to the board when you
authorized the development of the economic development office.
I told you at the time that most of the best practice models around
the country consisted of some type of public/private partnership.
The hope now is to develop some type of a draft interlocal
agreement that we could bring in front of this board in the fall that you
could potentially consider and memorialize so we can formalize that
relationship. I think this is a good-news item and shows that the
private sector has designated an agency to step forward and try to fill
that private component of the public/private partnership that we've
been talking about.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: I think that is a very good-news
component. I think it's excellent.
MR. OCHS: More to come on that.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And, finally, you know, we're going
to have a partnership with a group of people, hopefully, that will bring
the substance and commitment to economic development that we need
MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: -- in this community. But we still
need to know what a (c)(6) is.
MR. KLATZKOW: It is a nonprofit that uses its resource -- it's
revenues to support for-profit businesses. I've never encountered one.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Nor have I.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Say that one more time.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Does that mean they're going to
hand out incentives?
MR. KLATZKOW: It is a nonprofit -- a 501(c) is a nonprofit
that uses its revenues for, like, public purposes, which is the one that
I'm used to.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Right.
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MR. KLATZKOW: A 501(c)(6) is a nonprofit that uses its
revenues to support for-profit businesses.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Oh.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: The flying monkey.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: That sounds illegal.
MR. KLATZKOW: I just haven't come across one. I suppose it
could have a development that might be --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: I can tell you, if they're saying that
there are for-profits out there that are charity cases, I would agree with
that.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: It's a flying monkey.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: So now we have a nonprofit
supporting profit entities.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Refer them to the IRS for review
and --
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Clarification.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Yes.
MR. KLATZKOW: When it comes to the IRS, it's --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Ours is not to ask the reason why.
Ours is just to do or die.
MR. OCHS: That's all that I had today, Madam Chair.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Thanks, Leo. Nice meeting.
MR. OCHS: Nice meeting.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Very nice.
MR. OCHS: Thank you.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Except for the part where you made
me wear the hat.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: What'd you do with the hat, Mr.
Ochs? You've wimped out on me there.
MR. OCHS: I have it right here, sir. I'll put that on for the
benefit of the commission.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: You are so low.
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COMMISSIONER NANCE: That's cold, isn't it?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Okay. That is cruel and unusual
punishment to --
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Who won last night?
MR. OCHS: That was the Chicago Blackhawks, sir, in case you
missed it.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: County Attorney?
MR. KLATZKOW: I have nothing.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner Coyle?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Nothing.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner Fiala?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Three things.
The chamber also sent out another letter that the Miami Dolphins
has just submitted their membership application to become a part of
the Naples Area Chamber of Commerce, and --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Miami Dolphins?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Miami Dolphins.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: I like it.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: And with that application, they also
said they wanted to become more involved in the community and in
some of the committees that are involved in our community. I thought
that was pretty interesting. It's interesting that they've taken an
interest in us, and I want to watch and see what they do.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: They're going to change their name
to the -- either Collier Dolphins or the Marco Dolphins.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Naples Neapolitans?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: No. They're going to stick to
Dolphins, just change the first part.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: They want a new stadium here.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Wouldn't hurt so bad.
Secondly, I hope that all of you -- we've just come out of a very
combative time with our EMS director. I hope that now you see a
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different outcome from the same team that's in place. I just wanted to
mention that.
And last, not least, I wasn't able to talk to anybody about the
CRA progress. I was hoping that I would be allowed to at least ask
them those questions, but I'm looking forward to seeing what things
that they're working on -- I know we can't hear about it over the
summer anymore, but what things they're working on to further their
goals and get more deeply entrenched in the beautification and
upgrading of their communities.
So I do hope you'll let me get them on the calendar for the fall.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Absolutely. No question about it.
And just for the benefit of the public, we had to recess at 12:15
because we had bond counsel and our underwriters waiting in the
county manager's conference room to sign all the documents related to
the bond refinancing.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: But that wasn't it; it was earlier.
And, you know, we had some time, you know, even between our
meetings. We could have -- you know, we could have stretched this
another 15 minutes and, you know, maybe heard it a little bit later, but
I'm just still licking my wounds.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Don't lick them, because there was
no wounding intended. It was -- we made a commitment. That's all.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Well, Commissioner Fiala, make
some comments on the CRA. You wanted to give --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: That's just what I said.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Oh, okay, all right.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: We definitely -- I agree with
Commissioner Fiala. It would be a good thing to have an interim
report and get it on the agenda and give them -- give the staff the
opportunity to prepare the backup and include it in the material with
the agenda so that, you know, whoever doesn't listen to the meeting
gets the benefit of reviewing the material.
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Commissioner Nance?
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Yes. I just have -- I have two
things. One of which is -- one of the items on the summary agenda
today, Item 17H, was regarding irrigation quality reuse water, and it
had to do with our policies and our user agreements. And I had asked
that that be delayed so I could talk to Dr. Yilmaz about that. And I
just wanted to point out to everyone that this is a very, very important
program. We have an outstanding opportunity to do great things in
Collier County with our irrigation quality reuse water.
I think it will be a topic that we can elaborate a little bit more on
our landscaping workshop for this coming fall. And, also, it's going to
give us -- that workshop will give us a chance to work closer with our
University of Florida extension personnel, which is part of
government we fund here, to aid us going forward.
Irrigation quality reuse water is something that not only drops our
costs; it's a sustainable practice. It will not only help with our
municipal water system, but it will also help our environmental
circumstances in Naples Bay and the gulf as a whole, so I look
forward to working on that quite a bit.
The second thing I wanted to mention is going forward, one of
the other concerns I had on a consent agenda item was a bid process
that we had that I thought was excluding some of our people from
participating and, perhaps, not producing the best possible results.
And that was not a criticism of our personnel, but it was a criticism of
our bid protocol itself.
And I think everybody can see, when you take a look at what's
recently happened with our beach renourishment, our situation with
Ernst & Young, and some of our situations elsewhere throughout our
agendas, is that very oftentimes we have a very, very low number of
bidders.
And we have some excellent vendors that provide us with great
service, but the downside of that is, when we get very comfortable
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with those people, if something happens to them, we don't have
enough vendor development to bridge that gap.
And this Ernst & Young situation is a very classic where we've
had somebody for many, many years that's appointed themselves very
fairly with us, all of a sudden they're no longer available to us.
So I think we need to work -- do a considerable amount of work
on our bidding protocol and in our vendor development.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Commissioner Henning? I was
going to call you Commissioner Hiller.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Madam Chairman Hiller, you
know, I recognize what you were trying to accomplish with the
medical director, the only contract that we've ever had. And you need
to provide that contrast and comparable to see if you did the right
thing, and now I know that we did the right thing; however, there are
contracts in the past that never have been out to bid.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: That's bad. And we need -- and like
I said, I mean, I will not endorse any evergreen contract. I just think
it's against public policy. I have said that repeatedly.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: And, you know, it's a political
thing with --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: What contracts are evergreen
contracts?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Waste Management, Waste
Management contract.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: That has never been put out to bid?
That has never been put out to bid? I thought that was bid.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Once.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I thought it was, too.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Once.
MR. OCHS: Once many, many years ago.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Really?
MR. OCHS: And that was renewed.
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COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah, for decades. But
anyways, there's --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: That's -- that's a problem.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Obviously there's something
going on between certain staff members at the Naples Daily News and
yourself, and hopefully that doesn't affect this political board.
The second thing is, I commend you on conducting your meeting
to add on items to the agenda that -- or piggyback items as just an
add-on to an item, and it should be voted on by the board; however,
we do have -- we have adopted procedures for that.
And if I recall, that's mostly if it's in case of an emergency, but
you also have commissioners' comments if a commissioner wants to
talk about certain things that are going on in county government, so on
and so forth.
So, again, I thank you for conducting a great meeting. Here it is
a little bit after 3 o'clock, and we're just about done.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And we had a number of very
serious issues --
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Tough issues.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: -- that involved significant public
comment. So I have to thank everyone, because it was a collective
effort to get us through what could have been a very difficult agenda if
it had not been managed appropriately by the board as a whole.
MR. OCHS: Madam?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Yeah.
MR. OCHS: I'm sorry.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Go ahead. Just go right ahead. And
I just want you to know, this was given to me by one of your
employees.
MR. OCHS: Very nice.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And now, because we changed the
ethics ordinance --
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COMMISSIONER NANCE: Which one?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: -- it is not criminal for me to accept
it. So I just want you to know -- and I think it looks really good. The
black contrast, I want you to know --
COMMISSIONER NANCE: That looks like $26 to me,
Commissioner.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: It's a good reason to terminate that
employee, though.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: It is not. In fact -- in fact, I think we
need to find out who it is and do a special --
COMMISSIONER COYLE: I know who it is. I wrote down his
name.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: I am going to declare -- add that to
my list of proclamations for the next meeting.
MR. OCHS: That was the one thing I failed to bring up that I
wanted to talk about, if I may, just for a minute, Madam Chair.
Your request for the next meeting, I'm very happy to attempt to
acknowledge certainly current employees and former employees. I'm
just wondering if the board wants to give some thought to either
having me come back with a policy that's a little bit more
comprehensive -- because I don't know how we're going to manage
this on an individual commissioner basis deciding each week.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Well, you know, here's the thing.
We did it for this one employee. We didn't do it for other very
valuable employees. I think, you know, the particular -- I'm
concerned because, you know, we're slighting -- we're being selective.
We're slighting one, endorsing the other. I think -- I mean, I am
absolutely adamant to assert my right to bring proclamations to
recognize those three employees, and I'm going to do it.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Great.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And the reason I say that these
employees were not recognized. They put in as long, if not, more time
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COMMISSIONER HENNING: I'll support that.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: -- and make more contributions than
Diane Flagg did. I mean, we're talking about directors of, you know,
divisions. We're talking about, you know, the chief engineer. You
know, Diane made a contribution, but she was a manager.
MR. OCHS: I'm not saying they're not deserving. You
obviously understand that.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: I think it's, you know --
MR. OCHS: It's just there's so many that are, I don't know how
we draw the line or where we go with this, so --
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: I personally don't think --
MR. OCHS: -- that's why I suggested a policy of the board
policy.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: The policy should be that we -- you
know, we have consistently honored employees who have been here
for X number of years, and we do that through the county manager.
But when you're looking at directors, you know, the board should
recognize directors for their contribution.
You know, this board recognized a manager. You should be
recognizing your managers. We should not be recognizing managers.
You know, as the board, we should be recognizing, you know,
Nick and George and Len.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: No, no.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: How about after 30 years?
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Did you hear -- Len, can you come
up here? If you want to whack him, okay. He just said no, all right.
I'm telling you right now.
No, the bottom line is, we should recognize -- I think the board
should be recognizing the chief engineer, the directors, those kind of
individuals who leave.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: That's a policy. That's what he's
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asking for.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Right. And that's what I'm saying.
That's what we should develop as a policy. We recognized Norm
Feder. That makes sense.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Why don't we let Mr. Ochs
develop a policy so that we don't -- the embarrassing thing is when
you overlook somebody, which obviously we have. We don't want to
do that. So I think bringing something forward that tickles the board
saying, hey, don't forget this person; it flies under the radar because
we have a very busy agenda.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And it needs to be -- it needs to be
mandatory. It needs to be without exception, because I will tell you,
there were a lot of people who were very unhappy with Diane Flagg,
very dissatisfied with her at many, many levels.
I mean, she faced lawsuits, you know, brought by disgruntled
employees who felt that she was discriminating against them, that the
county had to settle and pay out on.
So I really think that, you know, if we're going to do something,
it should be consistent, and I feel very strongly that we need to
recognize -- because those are the people we approve that you select,
and those are the people that are the leadership, and we as a board
should be directly recognizing all the directors for their -- and, you
know, the chief engineer and, like, whatever, the chief attorney or
whatever you want to call him.
But I do not believe that this board should be endorsing managers
and recognizing managers, because then we have to endorse all of
them. And, boy, let me tell you something, we're talking 200
managers.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: You can choose to -- you can
choose to knight anyone.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: I knight you.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Okay.
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CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: And here's how I say it; night, night.
So, yes, please bring back a policy on that, but I will bring
forward proclamations for those three, because I think it's unfair, and
they deserve the recognition and never received it.
MR. OCHS: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Motion to adjourn.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Motion to adjourn.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Second.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: All in favor?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: (No verbal response.)
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
CHAIRWOMAN HILLER: Meeting is adjourned.
*****
**** Commissioner Henning moved, seconded by Commissioner
Nance and carried unanimously that the following items under the
Consent Agenda be approved as amended ****
Item #16A1
AN EASEMENT AGREEMENT AND TEMPORARY EASEMENT
AGREEMENT TO ACQUIRE A DRAINAGE EASEMENT
(PARCEL NO. 273DE) AND A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION
EASEMENT (PARCEL NO. 273TCE) WHICH ARE NEEDED
FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE HALDEMAN CREEK AND
CROWN POINTE WEIRS AS PART OF THE LELY AREA
STORMWATER IMPROVEMENT PROJECT NO. 51101 (19B)
ESTIMATED FISCAL IMPACT: $2,500 PLUS RECORDING
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COSTS OF LESS THAN $100 — FOR A COMBINED TOTAL 482
SQUARE FEET
Item #16A2
SHORT-LIST OF DESIGN PROFESSIONALS FOR RFP #13-6085
AND ENTER INTO NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN COLLIER
COUNTY AND KISINGER CAMPO & ASSOCIATES, CORP.
FOR "DESIGN & RELATED SERVICES FOR VANDERBILT
DRIVE BRIDGE REPLACEMENTS" (#030177 & #030178)
PROJECT NO. 66066 — BUILT IN 1964 AND DESIGNATED BY
COLLIER COUNTY AS A HURRICANE EVACUATION ROUTE
Item #16A3
MEDIATED SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WITH PROPERTY
OWNER LUIS PINEROS AND A STIPULATED FINAL
JUDGMENT DRAFTED INCORPORATING THE SAME TERMS
AND CONDITIONS AS THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT,
AWARDING COMPENSATION, INCLUSIVE OF ALL FEES
AND COSTS, IN THE AMOUNT OF $54,900 FOR PARCEL
204RDUE IN THE LAWSUIT STYLED COLLIER COUNTY V.
JOSEPH NOEL, ET AL., CASE NO. 07-3200-CA (OIL WELL
ROAD PROJECT #60044) (FISCAL IMPACT: $46,670) — FOR A
RIGHT-OF-WAY, DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENT
MEASURING 150' X 70' ALONG EVERGLADES BOULEVARD
FOR THE OIL WELL ROAD WIDENING PROJECT
Item #16A4
AGREED ORDER AWARDING EXPERT FEES & ATTORNEY
FEES IN CONNECTION WITH PARCELS 111 FEE AND 111 TCE
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IN THE LAWSUIT STYLED COLLIER COUNTY VS. A L SUBS,
INC., ET AL., CASE NO. 09-3691-CA, COLLIER BOULEVARD
PROJECT NO. 60092 (FISCAL IMPACT: $14,000) — TO PAY
COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION
OF AN EXIT DRIVEWAY ONTO BECK BOULEVARD IN
ACCORDANCE WITH THE STIPULATED FINAL JUDGEMENT
ENTERED INTO ON DECEMBER 14, 2011
Item #16A5
THE ANNUAL TRAFFIC COUNT PAYMENTS AS FULFILLED
WITHIN THE VINEYARDS PUD BASED UPON CHANGES TO
THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE — MEETING ALL OF THE
TRAFFIC MONITORING REQUIREMENTS
Item #16A6
RELEASE OF LIEN IN THE AMOUNT OF $74,080 FOR
PAYMENT OF $530, IN THE CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTION
ENTITLED BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS VS. IRMA
ARRENDONDO, CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD CASE
CEPM20120001359, RELATING TO PROPERTY LOCATED AT
1948 45TH TERRACE S.W., COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA —
FOR THE NON-COMPLIANCE PERIOD OF 148 DAYS FOR AN
OCCUPIED DWELLING WITHOUT WATER AND BROUGHT
INTO COMPLIANCE BY FEDERAL NATIONAL MORTGAGE
ASSOCIATION ON AUGUST 20, 2012
Item #16A7
RESOLUTION 2013-130: FINAL ACCEPTANCE OF PRIVATE
ROADWAY AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE
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VERONAWALK PHASE 3B FINAL PLAT, (AR-6688) WITH
ROADWAY AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS PRIVATELY
MAINTAINED AND AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY MANAGER
OR DESIGNEE TO EXECUTE A RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE
FINAL ACCEPTANCE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS AND PLAT
DEDICATIONS AND RELEASE A MAINTENANCE SECURITY
IN THE AMOUNT OF $352,552
Item #16A8
RECORD THE FINAL PLAT OF REGAL ACRES PHASE ONE
(APPLICATION PPLA-PL20130000314), APPROVAL OF THE
STANDARD FORM CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE
AGREEMENT AND APPROVAL OF THE AMOUNT OF THE
PERFORMANCE SECURITY — W/STIPULATIONS
Item #16A9
AWARD CONTRACT #13-6100, ANNUAL BID STOP SIGNS, TO
MUNICIPAL SUPPLY AND SIGN COMPANY — A 1-YEAR
CONTRACT WITH THE OPTION FOR THREE (3) ADDITIONAL
1-YEAR RENEWALS WITH COSTS ESTIMATED AT $30,000
ANNUALLY AND WITH CUSTOM PRODUCT CORPORATION
SUPPLYING SIGNS IN THE EVENT MUNICIPAL IS UNABLE
TO FULFILL THE CONTRACT
Item #16A10
STANDARD FORM CONSTRUCTION, MAINTENANCE AND
ESCROW AGREEMENT FOR ROAD AND UTILITY
IMPROVEMENTS REQUIRED BY THE HACIENDA LAKE
PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ORD. NO. 11-41 — PERMIT
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REVIEW FEES HAVE BEEN PAID AND THE SECURITY HAS
BEEN ACCEPTED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
Item #16A1 1
RECOGNIZE FY13/14 TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGE
PLANNING GRANT FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $25,896 FOR
COLLIER METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION
FROM THE COMMISSION FOR THE TRANSPORTATION
DISADVANTAGED AND AUTHORIZING THE NECESSARY
BUDGET AMENDMENT — FOR SPECIFIC PLANNING TASK IN
THE MPO'S FY 13/14 FISCAL YEAR (JULY-JUNE)
Item #16Al2
CHAIRWOMAN TO SIGN A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT
BETWEEN COLLIER COUNTY AND BENT CREEK PRESERVE
LLC IN ORDER FOR THEM TO MAINTAIN A FUTURE WET
LAKE FOR THE COUNTY AND TO INDEMNIFY THE COUNTY
IN REGARDS TO THE WET LAKE — LOCATED IN SECTION
26, TOWNSHIP 48 SOUTH, RANGE 26 EAST
Item #16A13
RESOLUTION 2013-131: APPOINTING JENNIFER HECKER
AND JEREMY FRANTZ (ALTERNATE) TO THE RESTORE
EVALUATION COMMITTEE AS REPRESENTATIVES OF THE
CONSERVANCY OF SOUTHWEST FLORIDA TO REPLACE
THE CURRENT REPRESENTATIVE ANDREW MCELWAINE
Item #16A14
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THE "HITS TRIATHLON SERIES", EVENT TO TAKE PLACE IN
COLLIER COUNTY ON JANUARY 12-13, 2014, INCLUDING
EVENING HOURS — AS DETAILED IN THE EXECUTIVE
SUMMARY
Item #16A15
CHAIRWOMAN TO SIGN A COST SHARE AGREEMENT
BETWEEN COLLIER COUNTY AND FOREST GLEN GOLF &
COUNTRY CLUB HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION IN ORDER
TO PROVIDE AN INTERIM ACCESS IMPROVEMENT INTO
FOREST GLEN — AS DETAILED IN THE EXECUTIVE
SUMMARY
Item #16B1
THE CRA BOARD APPROVAL A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO
REESTABLISH FUNDS TO REIMBURSE A CRA APPROVED
COMMERCIAL BUILDING IMPROVEMENT GRANT — FOR
CONTEMPLATED CONSTRUCTION THAT WASN'T
COMPLETED IN FY 2012 SO THE FUNDS WERE SWEPT INTO
CRA FUND 187 AS CARRYFORWARD
Item #16B2
THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, ACTING AS
THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, APPROVES
A CO-SPONSORSHIP AGREEMENT WITH THE U.S. SMALL
BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION (SBA), TO COSPONSOR
SMALL BUSINESS TRAINING SESSIONS WITH THE
IMMOKALEE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CENTER (IBDC) IN
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IMMOKALEE — WILL BE HELD JULY 19 & AUGUST 30, 2013
WITH 10-20 ATTENDEES AT NO COST
Item #16C1
WORK ORDER UNDER REQUEST FOR QUOTATION #08-5011-
94 IN THE AMOUNT OF $355,500 TO HASKINS, INC. FOR
IRRIGATION QUALITY WATER/REUSE VALVE
REPLACEMENT UNDER NORTH COUNTY WATER
RECLAMATION FACILITY TECHNICAL SUPPORT PROJECT
NUMBER 73968 — REPLACING VALVES THAT HAVE
REACHED THE END OF THEIR USEFULNESS AND NO
LONGER SEAL TIGHTLY NECESSARY FOR LIN ISOLATION
AND MAINTENANCE OF THE PIPING AND EQUIPMENT
Item #16C2
RATIFY STAFF'S EXTENSION OF CONTRACT NO. 11-5749,
"ELECTRICAL UPGRADES AT THE SOUTH COUNTY WATER
RECLAMATION FACILITY," WITH GULF STATES ELECTRIC,
INC., IN ORDER TO PROCESS THE CONTRACTOR'S FINAL
INVOICE FOR WORK COMPLETED AT THE SOUTH COUNTY
WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY — REPLACING
CORRODED TINNED COPPER CABLE AND HARDWARE
WITH ALUMINUM CABLE AND HARDWARE THAT ISN'T
AFFECTED BY THE HIGH CONCENTRATIONS OF
HYDROGEN SULFIDE
Item #16C3
RESOLUTION 2013-132/CWS RESOLUTION 2013-02: 1) A
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CURRENT REFUNDING
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OF THE COLLIER COUNTY WATER-SEWER DISTRICT
WATER AND SEWER REFUNDING REVENUE BONDS,
SERIES 2003B; THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE ISSUANCE OF
COLLIER COUNTY WATER-SEWER DISTRICT WATER AND
SEWER REFUNDING REVENUE BOND, SERIES 2013 IN A
PRINCIPAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $18,000,000; AND,
THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE EXECUTION AND DELIVERY
OF ESCROW DEPOSIT AGREEMENT WITH THE BANK OF
NEW YORK MELLON TRUST COMPANY, N.A. THIS ACTION
IS TAKEN PURSUANT TO PREVIOUS BOARD APPROVAL ON
JUNE 11, 2013 OF THE REFUNDING PROPOSAL FROM PNC
BANK
Item #16C4
BUDGET AMENDMENT IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF
$650,000 TO FUND PLANNED WATER UTILITY PROJECTS IN
THE RAW WATER WELLFIELD, AT THE NORTH COUNTY
REGIONAL WATER TREATMENT PLANT, AND AT THE
DISTRIBUTION REPUMP STATIONS, UNDER PROJECT
NUMBERS 71066, 71067, AND 70085 — FOR THE
REHABILITATION AND STRUCTURAL REPAIR TO ALL
DISTRIBUTION REPUMP STATIONS TO MEET DEMAND AND
STAY IN COMPLIANCE
Item #16D1
RECOGNIZING FY 2012/2013 FEDERAL TRANSIT
ADMINISTRATION SECTION 5311 ADDITIONAL REVENUE
IN THE AMOUNT OF $36,657 REQUIRING A 50% REQUIRED
MATCH IN THE AMOUNT OF $36,657 AND AUTHORIZE ALL
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NECESSARY BUDGET AMENDMENTS — FOR THE COLLIER
AREA TRANSIT OPERATION FOR THE IMMOKALEE ROUTES
Item #16D2
RESOLUTION 2013-133: FY2013/14 TRANSPORTATION
DISADVANTAGED TRUST FUND TRIP/EQUIPMENT GRANT
AGREEMENT WITH THE FLORIDA COMMISSION FOR THE
TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGED (CTD) IN THE
AMOUNT OF $853,953 WITH A LOCAL MATCH OF $94,875;
APPROVING THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE
CHAIRWOMAN OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONER (BCC) TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT;
AND, AUTHORIZE THE REQUIRED BUDGET AMENDMENTS
Item #16D3
THE 2013 ANNUAL PROGRESS REPORT OF THE COLLIER
COUNTY TRANSIT DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND AUTHORIZE
ITS SUBMISSION TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION (FDOT) — ALLOWING THE COUNTY TO
CONTINUE TO RECEIVING STATE BLOCK GRANT FUNDING
THAT HELPS OFFSET THE FIXED ROUTE TRANSIT SYSTEM
OPERATION
Item #16D4 — Withdrawn (Per Agenda Change Sheet)
RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE A BUDGET
AMENDMENT RECOGNIZING AND APPROPRIATING
$128,900 OF UNBUDGETED CARRYFORWARD IN THE
MUSEUM OPERATING FUND
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Item #16D5
GRANT APPLICATION FOR A 3-YEAR FLORIDA
DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES CRIMINAL
JUSTICE, MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE
REINVESTMENT GRANT THAT IS PART OF THE VICTIMS
ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION (VAO) GRANT PROGRAM FOR
EXPANSION OF DRUG COURT PROGRAMS (FISCAL IMPACT
$1,707,183 OVER 3 YEARS) — IN ORDER TO ASSIST THOSE
CITIZENS WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND MENTAL HEALTH
PROBLEMS
Item #16D6
AFTER THE FACT SUBMITTAL OF THE THREE ATTACHED
PROJECT PROPOSALS TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION (FDOT) FOR THE STATE
DISCRETIONARY TRANSIT SERVICE DEVELOPMENT
PROGRAM AND STATE PARK-AND-RIDE LOT PROGRAM
FOR A TOTAL FUNDING REQUEST OF $1,600,000 ($800,000
OF GRANT FUNDS AND $800,000 OF LOCAL MATCH) — FOR
THE FOLLOWING THREE PROJECTS: THE PARK & RIDE
PROJECT, THE NEW ROUTE PROJECT, AND FOR THE
MARKETING PLAN
Item #16D7
AWARDING ITB #13-6032 IN THE AMOUNT OF $49,560 TO FA
REMODELING AND REPAIRS, FOR CLEANING AND
PAINTING OF THE ROLLER HOCKEY RINK AT VETERANS
COMMUNITY PARK AND AUTHORIZE THE BOARD'S
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CHAIRWOMAN TO APPROVE THE ATTACHED COUNTY
ATTORNEY REVIEWED CONTRACT
Item #16D8
RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE ONE (1) MORTGAGE
SATISFACTION FOR THE STATE HOUSING INITIATIVE
PARTNERSHIP (SHIP) LOAN IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,500 —
FOR FOLIO #48600002224
Item #16D9
ADOPTION OF THE SAME SUBORDINATION POLICY,
FORMS AND AGREEMENT CURRENTLY USED UNDER THE
STATE HOUSING INITIATIVES PARTNERSHIP (SHIP)
PROGRAM FOR ALL FUTURE STATE, AND FEDERAL
REQUESTS — ALLOWING LOW INCOME HOMEOWNERS TO
BENEFIT FROM LOW INTEREST RATES, ALLOWING FOR
REFINANCE OF THEIR MORTGAGES TO KEEP THEIR
PAYMENTS AFFORDABLE
Item #16D10
SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENTS TO THE FY2010-2011 AND
FY2012-2013 ACTION PLANS TO CLARIFY THE PROJECT
SCOPE FOR COLLIER COUNTY COMMUNITY
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY - IMMOKALEE BUSINESS
DEVELOPMENT CENTER (IBDC), RE-ALLOCATE UNSPENT
PROJECT FUNDS FOR U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND
URBAN DEVELOPMENT (HUD) COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT (CDBG) AND HOME
PARTNERSHIP INVESTMENT (HOME) FUNDS AND APPROVE
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ANY NECESSARY BUDGET AMENDMENTS — AS DETAILED
IN THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
Item #16D11
GRANT AGREEMENT AMENDMENT BETWEEN COLLIER
COUNTY AND THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND
URBAN DEVELOPMENT (HUD) FOR THE 2010 SHELTER
PLUS CARE PROGRAM, PROJECT NUMBER
FL0394C4D061222 AND ACCEPT COLLIER COUNTY
HOUSING AUTHORITY'S TERMINATION OF A
SUBRECIPIENT CONTRACT IN ORDER TO CHANGE THE
PROJECT SPONSOR FROM THE COUNTY TO COLLIER
COUNTY HOUSING AUTHORITY — FOR THE SUPPORTIVE
SERVICES FOR PEOPLE MOVING FROM HOMELESSNESS TO
INDEPENDENT LIVING, PROVIDING RENTAL ASSISTANCE
WITH SUPPORTIVE SERVICES TO THE HOMELESS WITH
DISABILITIES
Item #16D12
AMENDMENT TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE PLAN FOR THE
NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION PROGRAM 1 (NSP1) AND
THE NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION PROGRAM 3 (NSP3) —
UPDATING THE ADMINISTRATIVE PLAN AND CONTINUE
TO ASSIST LOW TO MODERATE INCOME BENEFICIARIES
WITHIN THE COMMUNITY IN THE NSP EXIT STRATEGY AS
DIRECTED BY THE BOARD
Item #16D13
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AMENDMENTS BETWEEN COLLIER COUNTY AND THE
AREA AGENCY ON AGING FOR SOUTHWEST FLORIDA, INC.
D/B/A SENIOR CHOICES OF SOUTHWEST FLORIDA TO
AMEND THE CONTRACTED SERVICE YEARS IN THE
COMMUNITY CARE FOR THE ELDERLY (CCE), HOME CARE
FOR THE ELDERLY (HCE) AND ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE
INITIATIVE (ADI) PROGRAMS FOR FY2012/2013 —
SUPPORTING THE FRAIL AND ELDERLY CLIENTS IN
COLLIER COUNTY
Item #16D14
FIRST AMENDMENT TO AGREEMENT WITH DAVID
LAWRENCE MENTAL HEALTH CENTER, INC. (DLC) FOR
SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES,
WHICH WILL REVISE THE PERFORMANCE MEASURABLE
GOALS CONTAINED IN THE PERFORMANCE OUTCOME
REPORT — GIVING BEHAVIOR AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE
SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY
Item #16D15
REIMBURSEMENT TO THE GRANTOR AGENCY, SENIOR
CHOICES OF SOUTHWEST FLORIDA, IN THE AMOUNT OF
$318 FOR OVERPAYMENT IN THE HOME CARE FOR THE
ELDERLY GRANT BASIC SUBSIDY STIPEND TO A COLLIER
COUNTY SENIOR'S CAREGIVER — DUE TO THE
TERMINATION OF SERVICE
Item #16D16
BUDGET AMENDMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $35,764.50 AND
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RECOGNIZE REVENUE GENERATED FROM CASE
MANAGEMENT AND CASE AIDE FROM THE MEDICAID
WAIVER PROGRAM — COLLECTED FOR THE PERIOD OF
OCTOBER 6, 2012 THROUGH MAY 31, 2013
Item #16D17
DONATION OF A PHILLIPS HEARTSTART AUTOMATED
EXTERNAL DEFIBRILLATOR FROM THE COLLIER COUNTY
SENIOR SOFTBALL GROUP FOR USE BY THE PARKS AND
RECREATION DEPARTMENT
Item #16D18
AWARDING INVITATION TO BID (ITB) #13-6116 SHADE
STRUCTURE REPLACEMENT TO SUNMASTER OF NAPLES,
INC. TO SUPPLY AND INSTALL COMPLETE SHADE COVERS
FOR THE SOCCER AND SOFTBALL SHADE STRUCTURES AT
NORTH COLLIER REGIONAL PARK
Item #16D19
AWARDING INVITATION TO BID (ITB) #12-5976 "GOLDEN
GATE MSTU/MSTD GROUNDS MAINTENANCE" TO
HANNULA LANDSCAPE & IRRIGATION INC.
Item #16D20
AWARDING INVITATION TO BID (ITB) #13-6079
VETERINARY MEDICINE AND SUPPLIES, TO MERRITT
VETERINARY SUPPLIES INC.; AUTHORIZE STAFF TO
PURCHASE ANY ITEM NOT IMMEDIATELY AVAILABLE
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FROM MERRITT VETERINARY SUPPLY, INC. PER
PURCHASING POLICY; AND AUTHORIZE STAFF TO
PARTICIPATE IN MANUFACTURER'S ANIMAL SHELTER
DISCOUNT PROGRAMS — FOR THE MEDICAL CARE OF
ANIMALS IN THE CARE OF DOMESTIC ANIMAL SERVICES
Item #16D21
EXECUTE THE DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO CONVEY TWO
EASEMENTS TO FLORIDA POWER & LIGHT COMPANY ON
COUNTY PROPERTY AT THE GORDON RIVER GREENWAY
PARK; PROJECT NO. 80065.1 — FOR THE INSTALLATION OF
OVERHEAD AND UNDERGROUND DISTRIBUTION LINES AT
THE PARK FROM GOODLETTE-FRANK ROAD
Item #16D22
EXECUTE THE DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO CONVEY AN
EASEMENT TO LEE COUNTY ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE,
INC. ON COUNTY PROPERTY AT THE IMMOKALEE SOUTH
PARK; PROJECT NO. 800851 — FOR THE INSTALLATION OF
OVERHEAD LINES ALONG SCHOOL DRIVE INTO THE PARK
PROPERTY
Item #16D23
MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT (MOA) BETWEEN THE
FLORIDA COMMISSION FOR THE TRANSPORTATION
DISADVANTAGED (CTD) AND THE COLLIER COUNTY
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS (BCC) FOR
CONTINUED FUNDING OF THE TRANSPORTATION
DISADVANTAGED (TD) PARATRANSIT PROGRAM — THE RE-
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DESIGNATION OF THE BOARD AS THE COORDINATOR FOR
THE COMMUNITY TRANSPORTATION COORDINATOR
FROM JULY 1, 2013 TO JUNE 30, 2018
Item #16E1
BUDGET AMENDMENT RECOGNIZING UNANTICIPATED
REVENUE OF $50,000 IN FUND 188, THE 800 MHZ
INTERGOVERNMENTAL RADIO COMMUNICATION
PROGRAM (IRCP) AND APPROPRIATE THE REVENUE FOR
RADIO SYSTEM MAINTENANCE EXPENSES - THE TOWER
OWNER RETURNED THE FUNDS AND DETERMINED THAT
THE COUNTY'S CONTRIBUTION WASN'T REQUIRED
Item #16E2
AGREEMENTS FOR REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL (RFP) #13-6099
COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL REAL ESTATE AND
PROPERTY MANAGEMENT AND AUTHORIZE THE
CHAIRWOMAN TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACTS WITH
COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE CONSULTANTS LLC AND
PREMIERE PLUS REALTY CO. — TO CONSULT AND ASSIST
THE COUNTY WITH PURCHASE, SALE, LEASE AND
MANAGEMENT OF THE COUNTY'S SIGNIFICANT REAL
ESTATE HOLDINGS
Item #16E3
PURCHASE OF FLOOD INSURANCE EFFECTIVE JULY 1, 2013
IN THE ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $105,183 — FOR
UNINSURED PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOW IDENTIFIED AS
BEING LOCATED IN THE SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREAS
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Item #16E4
PURCHASE OF AMERICAN POWER CONVERSION (APC)
POWER AND COOLING EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE
AGREEMENTS FROM GOVCONNECTIONS, INC., UTILIZING
THE STATE OF FLORIDA CONTRACT #250-000-09-1 - FOR
THE COOLING EQUIPMENT AND MAINTENANCE THAT
SUPPORT THE IT DEPARTMENTS EQUIPMENT ON AN
ANNUAL BASIS
Item #16E5
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PREPAREDNESS AND
ASSISTANCE GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF $105,806 FOR
PROGRAM ENHANCEMENT AND APPROVE THE
ASSOCIATED BUDGET AMENDMENT - THE AGREEMENT IS
FOR THE PERIOD BETWEEN JULY 1, 2013 AND WILL END
ON JUNE 30, 2014
Item #16E6
FEDERALLY FUNDED SUB GRANT AGREEMENT AND
OTHER DOCUMENTS REQUIRED TO ACCEPT THE ANNUAL
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PREPAREDNESS AND
ASSISTANCE GRANT (EMPG), IN THE AMOUNT OF $97,123
FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLANNING, RESPONSE,
AND MITIGATION EFFORTS AND TO AUTHORIZE THE
NECESSARY BUDGET AMENDMENT - THIS AGREEMENT IS
FOR THE PERIOD BETWEEN JULY 1, 2013 AND WILL END
ON JUNE 30, 2014
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Item #16F1
RESOLUTION 2013-134: RESOLUTION APPROVING
AMENDMENTS (APPROPRIATING GRANTS, DONATIONS,
CONTRIBUTIONS OR INSURANCE PROCEEDS) TO THE
FISCAL YEAR 2012-13 ADOPTED BUDGET
Item #16F2
REFUNDS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONTRIBUTIONS TO
THE MERCATO, LLP IN THE AMOUNT OF $286,867 AND TO
GMRI, INC. IN THE AMOUNT OF $5,094.50, DUE TO THE
REMOVAL OF AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONTRIBUTION
COMMITMENT FROM THE MERCATO MIXED USE PLANNED
UNIT DEVELOPMENT
Item #16F3
REFUNDS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONTRIBUTIONS TO
SEMBLER FAMILY PARTNERSHIP #41, LTD. IN THE
AMOUNT OF $40,000.00 AND TO BANK OF AMERICA, NA, IN
THE AMOUNT OF $2,286.50, DUE TO THE REMOVAL OF AN
AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONTRIBUTION COMMITMENT
FROM THE BROOKS VILLAGE COMMERCIAL PLANNED
UNIT DEVELOPMENT
Item #16F4
REFUND OF AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONTRIBUTION
TO SCRIPPS MEDIA, INC. TOTALING $55,587.00 DUE TO THE
REMOVAL OF AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONTRIBUTION
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COMMITMENT FROM THE NAPLES DAILY NEWS BUSINESS
PARK PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT
Item #16F5
RELEASE OF LIEN FOR JASMINE CAY ASSOCIATES LTD.
FOR THE JASMINE CAY APARTMENTS, DUE TO THE
IMPACT FEES BEING PAID IN FULL IN ACCORDANCE WITH
THE TERMS OF THE 1994 DEFERRAL AGREEMENT AND THE
MULTI-FAMILY RENTAL IMPACT FEE DEFERRAL
PROGRAM, AS SET FORTH BY SECTION 74-401(E) AND 74-
401(G) (5) OF THE COLLIER COUNTY CODE OF LAWS AND
ORDINANCES - DUE TO IMPACT FEES THAT WERE PAID IN
FULL ON JANUARY 12, 2001
Item #16F6
BUDGET AMENDMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $5,200 FROM
THE COURT ADMINISTRATION FUND (681) TO THE TEEN
COURT FUND (171) — HELPING TO COVER THE
INSUFFICIENT REVENUES DUE TO THE SEVERE DECLINES
IN PAST CONSECUTIVE SEVEN YEARS TO COVER THE
PAYROLL BALANCE AND SCHOLARSHIP
Item #16G1 — Withdrawn (Per Agenda Change Sheet)
THIS ITEM CONTINUED FROM THE JUNE 11, 2013 BCC
MEETING. RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE A STANDARD
FORM LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN SOUTHERN ILLINOIS
CUSTOM AERIAL, LLC AND THE COLLIER COUNTY
AIRPORT AUTHORITY FOR IMPROVED PROPERTY AT THE
IMMOKALEE REGIONAL AIRPORT
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Item #16G2
RECOMMENDATION THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS, ACTING IN ITS CAPACITY AS THE
COLLIER COUNTY AIRPORT AUTHORITY, APPROVE AND
AUTHORIZE THE AIRPORT AUTHORITY'S EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR TO EXECUTE THE ATTACHED TEMPORARY
COMMERCIAL AERONAUTICAL USE AGREEMENT WITH
BAE SYSTEMS TO UTILIZE A PORTION OF THE AIRCRAFT
APRON AT THE MARCO ISLAND EXECUTIVE AIRPORT
FROM JULY 19 THROUGH JULY 31, 2013 — FOR OFFSHORE
FIELD TEST UTILIZING FIREHAWK HELICOPTERS
Item #16I1
MISCELLANEOUS CORRESPONDENCE — TO FILE WITH
ACTION AS DIRECTED
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BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
MISCELLANEOUS CORRESPONDENCE
June 25, 2013
1. MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS TO FILE FOR RECORD WITH ACTION AS DIRECTED:
A. MISCELLANEOUS CORRESPONDENCE:
1) Ave Maria Stewardship Community District
Proposed FY13/14 Budget
2) Cedar Hammock Community Development District
Proposed FY14 Budget; Adopted FY14 Final Budget
Meeting Agenda: 12/10/12; 01/14/13, 02/11/13, 03/11/13
Meeting Minutes: 12/10/12; 01/14/13, 02/11/13, 03/11/13
3) Golden Gate Fire Control& Rescue District
Copy of new registered agent J. Nolan Sapp notice 2/13/13 to DEO
Special District Facilities Report dated 3/12/13
Copy of 5/8/13 Notice to FL Auditor General's Office regarding Audit Report
Copy of new registered agent Kingman D. Schuldt notice5/20/13 to DEO
Information submitted by the District to Clerk's Office including (CPA firm)
Phillips Harvey Group's financial statements and Independent Auditor's Report
4) Hacienda Lakes Community Development District
Proposed FY12/13 Budget
Announcement for 01/21/13 Public Hearing
5) Heritage Bay Community Development District
Proposed FY14 Budget
6) Heritage Greens Community Development District
Meeting Agenda: 01/21/13, 02/18/13
Meeting Minutes: 01/21/13, 02/18/13
7) Naples Heritage Community Development District
Proposed FY14 Budget; Adopted FY14 Final Budget
Meeting Agenda: 01/08/13, 03/05/13
Meeting Minutes: 01/08/13, 03/05/13
8) Port of the Islands Community Improvement District
Meeting Agenda: 02/15/13, 02/26/13, 03/15/13, 04/19/13
Meeting Minutes: 02/15/13, 02/26/13, 03/15/13, 04/19/13
Maintenance Agreement & Grant of Easement 03/15/13 Meeting
9) Quarry Community Development District
Proposed FY13/14 Budget
10)Verona Walk Community Development District:
Proposed FY13/14 Budget
11)Code Enforcement Annual Published Legal Notice:
Regarding Litter, Weeds & Exotic Control 2012 and 2013
June 25, 2013
Item #16J1
DISBURSEMENTS FOR THE PERIOD OF MAY 30, 2013
THROUGH JUNE 5, 2013 AND FOR SUBMISSION INTO THE
OFFICIAL RECORDS OF THE BOARD
Item #16J2
DISBURSEMENTS FOR THE PERIOD OF JUNE 6, 2013
THROUGH JUNE 13, 2013 AND FOR SUBMISSION INTO THE
OFFICIAL RECORDS OF THE BOARD
Item #16J3
DESIGNATING THE SHERIFF AS THE OFFICIAL APPLICANT
AND POINT OF CONTACT FOR THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE, OFFICE OF JUSTICE PROGRAMS, BUREAU OF
JUSTICE ASSISTANCE EDWARD BYRNE MEMORIAL
JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT (JAG) FY13 LOCAL
STANDARD GRANT, AUTHORIZE THE ELECTRONIC
SUBMISSION OF THE APPLICATION, ACCEPT THE GRANT
WHEN AWARDED, APPROVE ASSOCIATED BUDGET
AMENDMENTS AND APPROVE THE COLLIER COUNTY
SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO RECEIVE AND EXPEND 2013 JAD
STANDARD GRANT FUNDS
Item #16K1 — Moved to Agenda Item #12A (Per Agenda Change
Sheet)
**** Commissioner Henning moved, seconded by Commissioner
Nance and carried unanimously that the following items under the
Summary Agenda be approved as amended ****
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Item #17A
RESOLUTION 2013-135: PETITION VAC-PL20130000515, TO
DISCLAIM, RENOUNCE AND VACATE THE COUNTY AND
THE PUBLIC INTEREST IN A PORTION OF A 12.5-FOOT WIDE
DRAINAGE EASEMENT, BEING A PART OF LOT 39, BLOCK
KK, QUAIL WEST PHASE III, UNIT 7, PLAT BOOK 46, PAGES
89 THROUGH 102 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF COLLIER
COUNTY, FLORIDA, ALSO BEING A PART OF SECTION 8,
TOWNSHIP 48 SOUTH, RANGE 26 EAST, COLLIER COUNTY,
FLORIDA, MORE SPECIFICALLY SHOWN IN EXHIBIT A
Item #17B
RESOLUTION 2013-136: PETITION VAC-PL20130000583, TO
DISCLAIM, RENOUNCE AND VACATE THE COUNTY AND
THE PUBLIC INTEREST IN A 20-FOOT WIDE LAKE
MAINTENANCE EASEMENT (L.M.E.), BEING A PART OF
TRACT E OF FIDDLERS CREEK PHASE 5, AVIAMAR UNIT
ONE, PLAT BOOK 45, PAGES 34 THROUGH 39 OF THE
PUBLIC RECORDS OF COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA, ALSO
BEING A PART OF SECTION 13, TOWNSHIP 51 SOUTH,
RANGE 26 EAST, COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA, MORE
SPECIFICALLY SHOWN IN EXHIBIT A, AND ACCEPT THE
GRANT OF A REPLACEMENT EASEMENT
Item #17C
RESOLUTION 2013-137: RESOLUTION AFFIRMING THAT A
SPORTING GOODS STORE IS A COMPARABLE AND
COMPATIBLE USE WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL PLAN
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DESIGNATED AREAS OF THE TOLLGATE COMMERCIAL
CENTER PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, AS AUTHORIZED
IN SECTION 3.3.A.(N) OF ORDINANCE 92-10 AS AMENDED.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN SECTION 35,
TOWNSHIP 49 SOUTH, RANGE 26 EAST, COLLIER COUNTY,
FLORIDA. (ZLTR-PL20130000494)
Item #17D
RESOLUTION 2013-138: RESOLUTION AFFIRMING THAT
MANUFACTURING OF SMALL ARMS AND SMALL ARMS
AMMUNITION ARE COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE USES
WITHIN THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT DESIGNATED
AREAS OF THE WHITE LAKE INDUSTRIAL CORPORATE
PARK PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AS AUTHORIZED IN
SECTION 3.2.A.36) OF ORDINANCE 01-59 AS AMENDED. THE
SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN SECTION 35,
TOWNSHIP 49 SOUTH, RANGE 26 EAST, COLLIER COUNTY,
FLORIDA. (ZLTR-PL20130000495)
Item #17E
RESOLUTION 2013-139: RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD OF
ZONING APPEALS OF COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA
PROVIDING FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A CONDITIONAL
USE TO ALLOW A PRIVATE SCHOOL AND A CHILDCARE
CENTER WITHIN A RURAL AGRICULTURAL ZONING
DISTRICT PURSUANT TO SUBSECTIONS 2.03.01.A.1.C.10
AND 2.03.01.A.1.C.11., RESPECTIVELY, OF THE COLLIER
COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR PROPERTY
LOCATED IN SECTION 9, TOWNSHIP 48 SOUTH, RANGE 25
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EAST, COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA (PETITION # CU-
PL20120001074)
Item #17F
ORDINANCE 2013-46: ORDINANCE OF THE BOARD OF
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA
AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 2004-41, AS AMENDED, THE
COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH
ESTABLISHED THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING
REGULATIONS FOR THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF
COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA BY AMENDING THE
APPROPRIATE ZONING ATLAS MAP OR MAPS BY
CHANGING THE ZONING PROPERTY FROM THE PLANNED
UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT KNOWN AS THE
VETERANS OF FOREIGN WARS PUD TO THE ESTATES (E)
ZONING DISTRICT FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 7071
HUNTERS ROAD IN SECTION 6, TOWNSHIP 49 SOUTH,
RANGE 26 EAST, COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA, CONSISTING
OF 5+/- ACRES; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ORDINANCE
NO. 75-29, THE VETERANS OF FOREIGN WARS PUD; AND
BY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE (PETITION RZ-
PL20130000049)
Item #17G
ORDINANCE 2013-47: AN ORDINANCE AMENDING
ORDINANCE NUMBER 2010-28, THE MERIDIAN VILLAGE
MPUD, TO ALLOW AS PERMITTED USES A YOUTH CENTER
AND OTHER USES COMPARABLE TO THE PERMITTED USES
IN THIS PUD. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE
NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION OF AIRPORT-
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PULLING ROAD AND ESTEY AVENUE IN SECTION 2,
TOWNSHIP 50 SOUTH, RANGE 25 EAST, COLLIER COUNTY,
FLORIDA, CONSISTING OF 11.68 ACRES; AND BY
PROVIDING AN EFFFECTIVE DATE (PUDA-PL20130000886)
Item #17H
THIS ITEM CONTINUED FROM THE JUNE 11, 2013 BCC
MEETING. ORDINANCE 2013-48 AND RESOLUTION 2013-
140: ADOPTING (1) AN ORDINANCE REPEALING AND
REPLACING ORDINANCE NO. 98-37, AS AMENDED; (2) A
REVISED IRRIGATION QUALITY WATER POLICY; (3)
STANDARDIZED AGREEMENTS FOR DELIVERY AND REUSE
OF IRRIGATION QUALITY WATER FOR MAJOR USERS AND
FOR BASIC USERS; AND, (4) A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING
THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
TO EXECUTE BOARD-APPROVED IRRIGATION QUALITY
WATER MAJOR USER AGREEMENTS
Item #17I
RESOLUTION 2013-141: RESOLUTION APPROVING
AMENDMENTS (APPROPRIATING CARRY FORWARD,
TRANSFERS AND SUPPLEMENTAL REVENUE) TO THE
FISCAL YEAR 2012-13 ADOPTED BUDGET
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There being no further business for the good of the County, the
meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair at 3:11 p.m.
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS/EX
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REPORTER AND NOTARY PUBLIC.
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